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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 14, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5:42 p.m.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department, present for the City Manager
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:24 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor And City Commission
Presentation Of A Key To The City To Mr. Bill Shafer In Honor Of His Service To
The Community.
Mayor Bush presented the "Key to the City" to Mr. Bill Shafer. Mr. Shafer addressed the
City Commission.
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INFORMATIQNAL AGENDA ~ = ~~
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INFORMATIONAL ~-
100. Community Development Department 1°~s
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning ~" ~'
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Discussion.
Next, with discussion on the status of the Cell Tower, Mayor Bush asked if Staff could
email us occasionally. Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community
Development Department stated, "I sure will."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at S: 24 p. m.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Providing Additional Information Regarding The Florida Department Of
Transportation Adopt-A-Highway Litter Removal Program Pursuant To A Request
Made By The City Commission During A November 14, 2007 Special Meeting.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding The Implementation Plan
For Sidewalks On Northern Way And Shetland Avenue.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
103. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With An Update Regarding New Federal Funding
Available For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project In Hacienda Village.
Brief discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public
Works Department if he had met with the Board of Director of Hacienda Village. With
further comments, Commissioner Miller asked Mr. Fields if there was Consensus among
the Board. Mr. Fields responded, "Will do."
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INFORMATIONAL
104. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Schedules For The January -
July, 2008 Winter Springs Special Events.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
105. Finance Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Revenue And Expenses Of The
Concession Stand.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis said, "It is wonderful how this has turned around. Kudos
to you Chuck (Pula) and your Staff."
INFORMATIONAL
106. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Informing The Commission Regarding The City Of Winter Springs Being Named
As A `Tree City USA' For The 19th Year And Also Receiving The Prestigious
Annual `Growth Award' In 2007.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
107. Community Development Department -Customer Service Division
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Customer Service Activities For
2007.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
108. Parks And Recreation Department
Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational
Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding A Permanent Dog Park At
Central Winds Park.
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Brief discussion.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE" INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Fire Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Accept A Check From Mrs. Eleanor
Green A Citizen Of Winter Springs.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
201. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Brief discussion ensued with Captain Kevin Brunelle, Police Department.
CONSENT
202. Community Development Department And Fire Department
Requesting Authorization From The City Commission For A Supplemental
Appropriation In The Amount Of $1,950.00 For The Purchase Of Signage Installed
On Fire Station 24 In Memory Of Chief Timothy J. Lallathin.
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CONSENT
203. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Set The City Baseline Streetlight Rate At $12.64
Pursuant To The Revised Rate Schedule Provided By Progress Energy Effective . "~
January 1, 2008 Through December 31, 2008. The Revised Rate Represents A -~
Reduction Of $.49 From The 2007 Rate Of $13.13. 3
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-06 Expressing Appreciation To
Guy DeMaio For His Service On The Board Of Trustees.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-07 Expressing Appreciation To
Denise Ryser For Her Service On The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning
Agency.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With Camp
Dresser & McKee Inc. (CDM) To Provide Professional Engineering Services For
The Development Of A Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) Master Plan.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
207. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Execute Amendment 91 -North Orlando/First
Addition Water Line Improvements With Conklin, Porter & Holmes Engineers,
Inc.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The November 26, 2007 City Commission Tax Reform Discussion
Summary.
No discussion.
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 7, 2007 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
210.. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-02 To Update
The City's Personnel Policies Regarding Military Leave.
Commissioner Miller inquired, "If someone is recalled to active duty and they are
currently making, let's say a thousand dollars ($1,000.00) amonth -and then they go in
the military and they are only paid eight hundred dollars ($800.00) a month, has there
been any consideration given to a minimum?"
With further comments, Commissioner Miller suggested, "I think we ought to look at
putting in a floor, a basic level so that people aren't hurt if they do get recalled."
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department stated, "We could look at that if
that is the Commission's desires." Mr. Smith added, "If it is the Commission's desire to
do something beyond thirty (30) days, we can certainly move in that direction."
Commissioner Miller then noted, "Most people today are being recalled much more than
thirty (30) days and they end up going over there for a year.." Commissioner Miller
noted, "Especially at the lower grades, I don't have a problem with somebody who is -
mid-grade Officer or even Senior NCO's (Non-Commissioned Officers), I think they are
probably going to be remunerated about what they would be getting with the City or
maybe even higher, but it is the people that fall short of that "
Continuing, Commissioner Miller remarked, "I think some consideration ought to be
given to putting in a floor, whether it be a basic level after which they wouldn't get
anything from the City, but if they are below a certain threshold, they would get
assistance from the City."
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Attorney Garganese stated, "Legally, as Kevin (Smith) said, the City is obligated to pay :w •~
full pay first thirty (30) days. After that, the law does. provide that after that time period ~~-
the employing agency, in this case it would be the City of Winter Springs may ~ °` ~
su lement the em to ees milit a in an amount necessar to brin the em to ees '"~~ " ~' `~
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certain salary inclusive of his or her base military pay to the level earned at the time the
employee was called to active military duty. ~',
So, I think what you are saying Commissioner is the City would have the option to make
up that difference..." Commissioner Miller noted, "...Beyond the thirty (30) days..."
Attorney Garganese continued, "...Beyond the thirty (30) days, military pay plus a
supplemental salary that the City can give at its own option to bring the total pay up to
what the employee was being paid by the City at the time they were called into service.
Legally, that's an option that the Commission can consider, but it's not -required."
Further comments were made about everyone being treated the same.
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "IT WOULD ONLY BE WHEN THEY
FALL BELOW ACERTAIN -GETTING LESS FROM THE MILITARY THAN
THEY WOULD BE GETTING FROM THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS.
THAT IS MY MOTION -COME BACK WITH THAT."
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER TO
ACTUALLY MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE AS ANTHONY (GARGANESE)
JUST READ." COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "AND BRING
SOMETHING BACK." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION. MR. SMITH ADDED, "I WILL
BRING SOMETHING BACK."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ASKED, `WHEN THAT INFORMATION COMES
BACK, I AM JUST CURIOUS, HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE IN
OUR CITY?" "
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese said, "So, you don't want to take any action on the Policy as written,
you want to bring it all back?" Commissioner Miller noted, "Yes, bring back some ideas
and what is the exposure."
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Mayor Bush then suggested, "Item `210', we should have a Motion to Table that."
"SO MOVED." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
211. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 10, 2007 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
212. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2008-OS Finding A
Public Purpose For Publication Of Public Information Regarding The January 29,
2008 Constitutional Amendment No. 1.
Attorney Garganese said, "Just need to add one (1) word to the Resolution, in Section 1.,
right at the end, it says `To constitute a lawful and necessary purpose'. Just need to insert
the word `public' - so it would be `Public purpose'."
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
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Attorney Garganese commented on the Peters property. ~=
Next, Attorney Garganese reported that a lawsuit was settled in Mediation.
Attorney Garganese commented on the Jesup's Reserve situation.
Lastly, Attorney Garganese then spoke about the Binford case.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces reminded everyone about this Thursday's Special
Meeting.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore arrived at S: 42 p. m.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces introduced new employee LaDonna Slayter.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore remarked, "I want to compliment Kip and the Public
Works people on the wonderful open house the other day, over at the new Public Works
facility. I was really impressed with the exhibits you had there and I just wish that
everybody in the City could see the kind of things that your people are doing over there
for the benefit of all of us. But it was a fine job, job well done and Congratulations and
thank you."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked if everyone for this Thursday's Special Meeting could sit
at the same level.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I was impressed with the level of activity when we had
the opening for the new Public Works - I stayed and went through all the demonstrations
and I was so impressed with the staff's commitment that day to all their demonstrations."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "It was really, very gratifying. They were proud."
Commissioner McGinnis then noted, "It was that good."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT CARA LYNN ROESNER" TO THE BOWS
BOARD. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS
ADDED, "I MAKE THAT A MOTION." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Krebs spoke of some documents that she shared with the City
Commission related to the proposed Fire Assessment and then read a statement; in which
Commissioner Krebs mentioned that in the future, instead of words, she would prefer real
numbers.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller said that he would like to see Staff come back with something on
this.
Manager McLemore noted, "We're prepared to give that complete discussion to you at
the next Meeting before you make the final decision and we'll create - as many options
as we can."
Further discussion.
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Manager McLemore noted, "We are going to show you where the original calculations
were and what the calculations are today and they have changed upward."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore suggested the need to see details related to this Assessment and if
this Assessment is not done, what will the situation look like.
Manager McLemore then said, "We will provide you with a response to that and what
alternatives may be available to you." With further comments, Commissioner McGinnis
asked for all alternatives and options related to the outcome of the January 29th, 2007
Election results.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on the proposed Assessment.
Next, Mayor Bush noted tomorrow's Florida League of Cities' Press Conference on
Shadowbrook Trail in the Winding Hollow subdivision.
Mayor Bush mentioned he would not be able to attend the January 17th, 2008 Tri-County
League of Cities Luncheon, but that Deputy Mayor Gilmore would be standing in for
him. Mayor Bush would be instead giving the "State of the City" address at another
event, also on the 17th of January 2008.
The Scottish-Highland Games were mentioned next by Mayor Bush.
Mayor Bush noted a meeting he has scheduled with Representative Dean Cannon on
January 28th, 2007 and said that if there is anything he should bring up, to let him know.
Lastly, Mayor Bush stated, "Kip (Lockcuff), Congratulations, you made Public Works
look fun."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
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Commissioner Brown asked if the public purpose in Agenda Item `212' should have been
done differently.
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Secondly, Commissioner Brown inquired if the Planning and Zoning Board/Local
Planning Agency had been brought up to speed in preparation for this Thursday's Special '~
Meeting. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department stated, "Absolutely."
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED
NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA. • •
REPORTS
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned recent comments by Seminole County Chairman Brenda Carey
on the issue of CALNO (Council of Local Governments in Seminole County) and similar
Boards.
"I WOULD SUPPORT JUST LEAVING THINGS .THE WAY THEY ARE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN COMMENTED FOR THE RECORD ABOUT THE
STATUS OF SEMINOLE COUNTY.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore reviewed some dates he had received from Ms. Pam Lallathin on a
Memorial Service.
Regarding a newly proposed date of February 8~', 2007 for a Memorial Service, Mayor
Bush said, "Shoot for the 9t" [of February] then." No time was specified.
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Mr. William Payne, 510 Bentley Street, Oviedo, Florida: thanked the City for their
support of the Dog Park. , ,, ,R ,
Mr. Jim Ridgely, b22 East Washington Street, Orlando, Florida: representing Colliers ~° ~;~;4~;
Arnold, Mr. Ridgely said he supported Agenda Item "606".
Mr. Gregory T. Davis, 4590 118`h Avenue North, Clearwater, Florida: also supported
Agenda Item "606".
Ms. Loretta Ames, 150 Third Street, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the City
Commission and Mr. Pula for the Dog Park.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 103b Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a
document he had distributed to the City Commission related to the proposed Fire
Assessment Fees.
Mr. Damon Basco, 1178 Baltic Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: introduced himself to the
City Commission. Commissioner Krebs mentioned she was hoping to Appoint him to the
Board of Trustees.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at b.•23 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at b: 41 p. m.
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608. Community Development Department -City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Ed Steigerman Of
606 Pearl Road To Remove (1) Specimen Tree Located In The Front Yard Of His
Residence.
Mr. Mike Mingea, City Arborist, Community Development Department presented this
Agenda Item to the City Commission.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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609. Seminole County Economic Development Department
Requesting The City Commission To Explore Adoption Of A Resolution
Designating The 17-92 CRA (Community Redevelopment Area) District A
Brownfield Area.
Mr. John Metsopoulos, US 17-92 CRA Program Manager, Seminole County, IOSS AAA
Drive, Suite 145, Heathrow, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this Agenda
Item and stated, "What I'm asking tonight is, the go ahead to work with your City
Manager and your City Clerk to proceed with the adoption at a later date of the
Resolution."
With discussion, Manager McLemore commented for the Record, "Does the adoption of
this Resolution, commit the City to any matching requirements or anything of that nature
that we would not see at this point in time but may experience down the road?"
Mr. Metsopoulos responded, "No, in fact the Resolution specifically states there's no
financial or legal obligation that the City has unless it chose in the future to make an
additional - as far as adoption of this program; the Resolution is very loud and clear that
there is no financial obligation. All of the funds come from the State."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mr. Metsopoulos then explained, "Just to give you a quick rundown, what I will do is get ~_
the file over to the City Clerk and the City Manager and then what will happen will be at
the next Meeting, you' 11 have a Public Hearing portion, where property owners can come ~~
and if they want, opt out of the program." Furthermore, Mr. Metsopoulos noted, "And '
then after that Public Hearing part, you can then move to adopt the formal Resolution
declarin that ortion of US Hi hwa 17-92 a -Brownfield area but as we're callin
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Further discussion.
Mr. Metsopoulos added to the City Commission, "I am going to be making phone calls to
each and every one of you, to sit down with you."
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502. Community Development Department
Recommends The City Commission Hear The Request For A Waiver From Section
6-86. (Minimum Building Setbacks In A PUD (Planned Unit Development)), By
Way Of Subsection 20-354. (d) (7), Of The City Code Of Ordinances, To Allow The
Replacement Of An Existing Screened Covered Porch With A Sun Room At The
Rear Of The Residence Of 891 Stirling Drive (Lot 51, The Highlands Section One,
As Recorded In Plat Book 18, Pages 95-96).
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on
this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Ann Grimes, 892 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and noted she was in favor of the Request.
Ms. Nancy Pouncey, 893 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: agreed with Ms.
Grimes.
Ms. Holly Foster, 889 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: thought this would
enhance the property and was in favor of it.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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Mr. Dan Gilmartin, 891 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City °..~ ,~~
Commission on this request.
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not a footer will be required, so you may want to consider - do you want a Waiver if it is °'~'
approved to apply whether or not they need to tear the slab out and put a new footer, or
not?"
Mr. Gilmartin stated, "I'm not changing the footprint on that at all."
"I MOVE TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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606. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification To Allow The City Manager To Approve Or Deny Building-Mounted
Identification Signage, Particularly That In Excess Of 14 Feet In Height, For The
Villagio Shopping Center.
Mr. Baker spoke on this Agenda Item and said, "We can take signs on the appropriate
parts of the building facade to the City Manager and get his approval and not have to
bring each individual sign for each tenant to you as the Commission."
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Manager McLemore remarked, "I certainly don't have any problem with that as long as ~.~
we have a clear criteria upon which I am going to make those decisions."
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Mr. Baker explained, "If the sign -meets the two foot (2') and the appropriate width,
seventy percent (70%) of the store frontage, then we would take it to the City Manager as k.:,.
we do with other signs in other parts of the City and if he feels that it fits and is ~~_~
appropriate then we can sign off in Planning and go to the Building Department. They
can look at the wind loading and the electrical stuff and then issue the Permit." '+ `~~
Discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON CLARIFIED, "THE SIGN DOES MEET FOURTEEN FEET
(14'). I BELIEVE THE REQUIREMENT WAS FOR TWELVE FEET (12') OUT
THERE, AND THIS WAS THE SITUATION WHERE THEY DID NOT GET THE
CONDITIONS PRINTED OUT. THEY BUILT IT ACCORDING TO PLAN."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Note: This Agenda Item is also discussed on page 20.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment
To The Board Of Trustees To Fill The Seat Previously Held By Guy DeMaio.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DAMON [BASCO]" TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush then introduced Mr. Andrew Jones, a Deputy Prosecutor who lives in
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1 Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Approve The Proposed Amendment To The
2007 InterLocal Agreement For Public School Facility Planning And School
Concurrency (ILA) Which Establishes The Mandatory Date Of January 1, 2008, As
The Effective Date For Implementation Of School Concurrency As Established By
The State Land Planning Agency For The Seminole County School District In
Accordance With Section 163.3177(12)(1), Florida Statutes.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item and mentioned, "On page 9 of 41, there is a
description of a Committee called the `Public Schools Facilities Planning Committee'.
The reason I wanted to bring that to your attention is that we will be asking you to
appoint one (1) Elected Official to participate in this Committee and it is described in the
Interlocal Agreement.
The duties of that Committee are to meet at least semi-annually and also at the annual
joint School Board Workshop and one of the meetings would be scheduled in March."
Mayor Bush stated, "Maybe we can do that after we finish this item."
Next, Mayor Bush mentioned that the word "January" was spelled incorrectly.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2 Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-22, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text
Amendment, Establishing A Public School Facilities Element And Amending The
Capital Improvements And The Intergovernmental Coordination Elements
Consistent With Chapter 163, Florida Statutes And 9-J5, Florida Administrative
Code.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
AGAIN DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED (PLEASE ALSO SEE
PAGES 16-17). • •
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606. Community Development Department `~_ " '
Requests The City Commission Approve The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification To Allow The City Manager To Approve Or Deny Building-Mounted
Identification Signage, Particularly That In Excess Of 14 Feet In Height, For The
Villagio Shopping Center.
Manager McLemore said, "I just need to make sure that you understood that that sign was
built according to Plan, but that Plan was a flawed document." Commissioner Krebs
remarked, "Right." Manager McLemore added, "Did you understand that? Your Code is
twelve feet (12'). That sign is fourteen feet (14')." Furthermore, Manager McLemore
added, "I just need to make sure that you understand that sign is a foot and a half higher
than it should be." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I personally think I understand."
Note: This Agenda Item is also discussed on pages 16-17.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. • •
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Approve Resolution 2007-53, Vacating A 73-Square
Foot Portion Of Blumberg Boulevard And Conveying Same To Tuskawilla
Associates, LLC, The Only Adjoining Private Property Owner.
Attorney Garganese read the Resolution by "Title" into the Record.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
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COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE `; ,~
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DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE k
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Commissioner Miller left the dais at 7:27 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Approve First Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01 Which
Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The City Of
Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a Motion to read by `Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
(VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Smith spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "It does not address rates at this point.
That would come at the second Reading of this Ordinance with a corresponding Initial
Rate Resolution."
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
(VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-24, A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The
Future Land Use Map Designation Of 7.54 Acres, Located On The South Side Of
Winter Springs Boulevard, Immediately West Of Howell Creek And The Chelsea
Parc At Tuscawilla Subdivision From (Winter Springs) "Recreation And Open
Space" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas) To (Winter
Springs) "Medium Density Residential" (3.6 DU (Dwelling Unit) To 9.0 DU/Acre)
And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas.).
Commissioner Miller returned to the dais at 7:31 p. m.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE SAID, "I AM CONCERNED THAT WHEN I
READ THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE TOOK RECREATIONAL SPACE AND
CONVERTED IT TO HOUSING." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "I
PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE AT LEAST AN
EXPLANATION OF WHAT OCCURRED, AND IT IS NOT IN HERE."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE EXPLAINED, "IT IS IN THE -MODIFICATION TO
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AGO." ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN INQUIRED, "WOULD
YOU LIKE ME TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE RECITALS INTO THE
`WHEREAS' CLAUSES?" DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE REMARKED, "I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INCORPORATED." COMMISSIONER KREBS
SUGGESTED, "I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THE ASTERISK."
"INCLUDE SOME SORT OF EXPLANATION REGARDING - AN ASTERISK -
REGARDING HOW AND WHY OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO PUT IN
EXPLAINING THAT PART OF THE CONCERN." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "YOU WANT TO ADD SOME `WHEREAS'
RECITALS TO REFLECT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE
REASONS BEHIND THAT AND THE EXCHANGE."
MAYOR BUSH INQUIRED, "THIS WON'T CAUSE US TO HAVE ANOTHER
SECOND READING OF THIS?" ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "NO."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests The City Commission Approve On Second Reading And Adopt Ordinance
2007-32 Which Amends Chapter 8 -Flood Damage Prevention.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2007-32 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. `~~
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. • •
REGULAR AGENDA
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b00. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2008-01, Authorizing The
City Manager And Police Department To Conduct A Nine Month Study On The
Effects Of On-Street Parking On City Roads Within Certain Study Areas Within
The Citv.
Attorney Garganese introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
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Commissioner Krebs asked when the Study would commence. Captain Glenn Tolleson,
Police Department stated, "Within two (2) weeks -the copy of the Ordinance is going to
go, a map of the affected areas is going to go and then a letter with what it is going to
entail, with some suggestions."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission To Consider The Legal Opinion Of The City
Attorney Regarding Conservation Easements And To Provide Whatever Direction
The Commission Deems Appropriate.
Attorney Garganese introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER
BRING BACK A WAY FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO, TO MAKE THIS
HAPPEN AND A LIST OF AGENCIES THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR
CONSIDERATION IN THIS EASEMENT PROCESS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISS IONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER ASKED, "AND THAT WOULD BE IN A
PRIORITIZED DESCENDING ORDER..." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID,
"...YES IT WOULD."
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE MENTIONED, "IF YOU WANT US TO GO BACK ~,
AND GET A LIST OR COME UP WITH SOME -STRATEGIES AND PRESENT ~ ` ';
THOSE TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING; I THINK THAT IS GOOD .
DIRECTION."
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COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO
PRIORITIZE IT, JUST BRING THE INFORMATION BACK TO US."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Attorney
Presents Information Regarding Existing Enclaves Located Within The City And
The Legal Options For Annexing Said Enclaves Under Florida Law. The City
Attorney Also Requests That The City Commission Provide Formal Direction
Regarding The Available Options.
Attorney Garganese presented opening comments on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese noted, "There are some other complicated legal nuances that would
have to be worked out in these types of agreements. There are some planning issues too
that have to be worked out. The bottom line is, yes, in my view there are opportunities to
expedite the annexation of these enclaves, however it requires an agreement with
Seminole County. There is a 1987 Agreement that is currently on the books so you
would have to request that Seminole County sit down and negotiate changes to that 1987
Agreement in my view. And if that is what the Commission wants to do - my
recommendation in the Agenda Item is to, as a matter of courtesy is to approach
Seminole County and broach this issue with them to see if there is a willingness to sit
down and negotiate this type of Agreement.
If they were not, I mentioned in the -Agenda Item under the Interlocal Boundary Service
Agreement Act, you could compel Seminole County to sit down and negotiate in good
faith.
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Under the Act, you would just adopt an initiating Resolution, and you would identify '
what the issues are that you want to address. You would provide the appropriate maps.
You would forward that off to Seminole County. They would be required to adopt a e'
responding Resolution and then negotiations would start, and those negotiations would
have to be conducted in good faith for a period of at least six (6) months. But under the ,
Act, Seminole County is not required to agree to anything. They're just simply required t`
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Further comments.
"ALL OF THESE REALLY ARE ENCLAVES IN THE TRUE SENSE OF THE
WORD WHICH WE SURROUND THEM ON FOUR (4) SIDES -THAT WOULD
BE MY MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT ANTHONY [GARGANESE] HAS GIVEN."
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "GO AFTER ALL OF THEM?" COMMISSIONER
MILLER SAID, "YES." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND
THAT? RIGHT?" COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "YES."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2008-04 Establishing Oversized
Vehicle Restrictions On Blumberg Boulevard.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
605. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With Information On The Vacated Public Works
Compound Property.
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Department spoke on this Agenda
Item.
Members of the City Commission and Staff suggested that there should be more park
area on the west side of the City; that the Fire Department might need the land later; their
concerns with Fire vehicle access and response times; closing streets and related possible
issues; parking concerns; that this should become a park; building a new community
center on this property; and buying the residence which is currently there.
Manager McLemore said, "I think we need to come up with probably three (3) to four (4)
development alternatives for you to look at and how we would create a park system there
that's compatible with what its' uses around it, provide for the appropriate support
facilities, parking, and all of that - and I think we have a clear direction of where you
want to go."
Further discussion followed on a pocket park.
"SO MOVED - FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH
OPTIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
607. Chairman Of The Code Enforcement Board
Requesting To Review With The City Commission The Winter Springs Code
Enforcement Board Policy Manual Which Was Recently Approved By The Code
Enforcement Board.
Manager McLemore gave an overview on the issues related to this Agenda Item.
Mr. Mathew Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida: as the
Chairman of the Code Enforcement Board, Mr. Matisak addressed the City Commission
on the efforts of the Code Enforcement Board.
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Discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Further discussion.
Discussion followed on whether there should be a Special Magistrate instead of the Code
Enforcement Board.
Attorney Garganese remarked, "When these Rules and Procedures filtered their way up
to the point where it was placed on the Commission Agenda, I had an opportunity to
review them. There are some changes that I would recommend. I shared those changes
with Matt (Matisak). He has a copy of my letter and I will give you a copy after the
Meeting."
Further discussion.
Attorney Garganese recommended, "I have always said they [Code Enforcement Board]
need to have legal counsel, one way or another." With further comments, Attorney
Garganese recommended, "I think the Code [Enforcement] Board needs legal counsel."
Discussion continued.
Commissioner Brown said to Chairman Matisak, "As a Volunteer, I know how seriously
you take this and I think the amount of initiative that you and the Board showed in taking
this undertaking and getting it to the point it is today, really needs to be commended."
Commissioner Krebs added, "Absolutely."
With further discussion, Commissioner Miller said he would like more information on
how many cities had legal counsel and how many Appeals there have been.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "When you look at this document tomorrow Matt
(Matisak), I believe you use interchangeably, `Clerk of the Board' and `City Clerk'. I
think you mean one and the same." Chairman Matisak explained, "There are some typos
in there and at the last Meeting, I addressed that to ensure that the Clerk can make those
changes and we Voted on that to ensure that she can freely make those changes - as long
as there isn't an intent changing the document, so she can do that."
Discussion continued.
Mayor Bush noted, "You heard both the Attorney and Matt (Matisak) agree that this can
be corrected. Does the Commission have any issue with that at all?" Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "No." Commissioner Krebs stated, "No. He is going to take care of
that tomorrow."
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Manager McLemore commented, "The appropriate role is not Matt (Matisak) sitting here '~>
to inform you what they've done. The appropriate role is to provide you with these
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mistake. That is something that we have to have a fundamental understanding about -
they represent you." ,
Furthermore, "That's the reason these things have to be reviewed and analyzed before Y.~:-~.;: =~i:
they adopt them; not just come in here and tell you this is what we're doing."
Discussion.
On how to proceed, Manager McLemore suggested; "You give the Attorney the authority
to work with them and work these things out."
"I MAKE THAT MOTION -THAT WE ARE ENPOWERING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO..." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "...AND IF THEY GET
INTO A DISPUTE, THEY CAN'T AGREE - IT COMES BACK TO YOU."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE REMARKED, "IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
THEY'RE DOING THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES ADOPTED
BY THE COMMISSION, OR FLORIDA LAW, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO
YOU. THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE FOUND THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED
ARE IN THAT LETTER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MOVE THAT WE MANDATE LEGAL COUNSEL BE PRESENT AT ALL
CODE ENFORCEMENT [BOARD] MEETINGS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. ATTORNEY GARGANESE ASKED, "DO YOU
WANT THAT TO BE THE CITY ATTORNEY OR DO YOU WANT TO GET
ANOTHER..." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "...I AM
COMFORTABLE THAT -YES, THAT IT WOULD BE THE CITY ATTORNEY."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "I COULDN'T PRESENT CASES AND
REPRESENT THE BOARD. IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER." SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION
HELD IN ABEYANCE OR THE DECISION TO IMPLEMENT IT, HELD IN
ABEYANCE UNTIL WE GET SOME FEEDBACK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT
TABLED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MILLER
CONTINUED, "UNTIL WE GET SOME INFORMATION."
VOTE:
CnMMTSSTONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further discussion followed on a Hearing Officer. Mayor Bush suggested Attorney
Garganese look into the need for this.
In other City business, Mayor Bush spoke further on the "Data that the Commission
wants to see coming back on this before the -Second Reading of this Ordinance" on the
proposed Fire Assessment Fees.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:17 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 14,2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5 :42 p.m.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department, present for the City Manager
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5 :24 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
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WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
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AWARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
300. Office Of The Mayor And City Commission
Presentation Of A Key To The City To Mr. Bill Shafer In Honor Of His Service To
The Community.
Mayor Bush presented the "Key to the City" to Mr. Bill Shafer. Mr. Shafer addressed the
City Commission.
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INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Discussion.
Next, with discussion on the status of the Cell Tower, Mayor Bush asked if Staff could
email usoccasionally.Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, A1CP, Director, Community
Development Department stated, "I sure will."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:24 p.m.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Providing Additional Information Regarding The Florida Department Of
Transportation Adopt-A-Highway Litter Removal Program Pursuant To A Request
Made By The City Commission During A November 14,2007 Special Meeting.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding The Implementation Plan
For Sidewalks On Northern Way And Shetland Avenue.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
103. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With An Update Regarding New Federal Funding
Available For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project In Hacienda Village.
Brief discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public
Works Department if he had met with the Board of Director of Hacienda Village. With
further comments, Commissioner Miller asked Mr. Fields if there was Consensus among
the Board. Mr. Fields responded, "Will do."
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INFORMATIONAL
104. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Schedules For The January -
July, 2008 Winter Springs Special Events.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
105. Finance Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Revenue And Expenses Of The
Concession Stand.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis said, "It is wonderful how this has turned around. Kudos
to you Chuck (Pula) and your Staff."
INFORMATIONAL
106. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Informing The Commission Regarding The City Of Winter Springs Being Named
As A 'Tree City USA' For The 19th Year And Also Receiving The Prestigious
Annual 'Growth Award' In 2007.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
107. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Customer Service Activities For
2007.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
108. Parks And Recreation Department
Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational
Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding A Permanent Dog Park At
Central Winds Park.
Brief discussion.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE" INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Fire Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Accept A Check From Mrs. Eleanor
Green A Citizen Of Winter Springs.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
201. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Brief discussion ensued with Captain Kevin Brunelle, Police Department.
CONSENT
202. Community Development Department And Fire Department
Requesting Authorization From The City Commission For A Supplemental
Appropriation In The Amount Of $1,950.00 For The Purchase Of Signage Installed
On Fire Station 24 In Memory Of Chief Timothy J. Lallathin.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
203. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Set The City Baseline Streetlight Rate At $12.64
Pursuant To The Revised Rate Schedule Provided By Progress Energy Effective
January 1, 2008 Through December 31, 2008. The Revised Rate Represents A
Reduction Of $.49 From The 2007 Rate Of $13.13.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-06 Expressing Appreciation To
Guy DeMaio For His Service On The Board Of Trustees.
This Ag€:;nda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-07 Expressing Appreciation To
Denise Ryser For Her Service On The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning
Agency.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With Camp
Dresser & McKee Inc. (CDM) To Provide Professional Engineering Services For
The Development Of A Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) Master Plan.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
207. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Execute Amendment 91 - North OrlandolFirst
Addition Water Line Improvements With Conklin, Porter & Holmes Engineers,
Inc.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The November 26, 2007 City Commission Tax Reform Discussion
Summary.
No discussion.
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 7, 2007 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-02 To Update
The City's Personnel Policies Regarding Military Leave.
Commissioner Miller inquired, "If someone is recalled to active duty and they are
currently making, let's say a thousand dollars ($1,000.00) a month - and then they go in
the military and they are only paid eight hundred dollars ($800.00) a month, has there
been any consideration given to a minimum?"
With further comments, Commissioner Miller suggested, "I think we ought to look at
putting in a floor, a basic level so that people aren't hurt if they do get recalled."
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department stated, "We could look at that if
that is the Commission's desires." Mr. Smith added, "If it is the Commission's desire to
do something beyond thirty (30) days, we can certainly move in that direction."
Commissioner Miller then noted, "Most people today are being recalled much more than
thirty (30) days and they end up going over there for a year." Commissioner Miller
noted, "Especially at the lower grades, I don't have a problem with somebody who is -
mid-grade Officer or even Senior NCO's (Non-Commissioned Officers), I think they are
probably going to be remunerated about what they would be getting with the City or
maybe even higher, but it is the people that fall short of that "
Continuing, Commissioner Miller remarked, "I think some consideration ought to be
given to putting in a floor, whether it be a basic level after which they wouldn't get
anything from the City, but if they are below a certain threshold, they would get
assistance from the City."
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Attorney Garganese stated, "Legally, as Kevin (Smith) said, the City is obligated to pay
full pay first thirty (30) days. After that, the law does provide that after that time period
the employing agency, in this case it would be the City of Winter Springs may
supplement the employees military pay in an amount necessary to bring the employees
certain salary inclusive of his or her base military pay to the level earned at the time the
employee was called to active military duty.
So, I think what you are saying Commissioner is the City would have the option to make
up that difference..." Commissioner Miller noted, ". ..Beyond the thirty (30) days..."
Attorney Garganese continued, ".. . Beyond the thirty (30) days, military pay plus a
supplemental salary that the City can give at its own option to bring the total pay up to
what the employee was being paid by the City at the time they were called into service.
Legally, that's an option that the Commission can consider, but it's not - required."
Further comments were made about everyone being treated the same.
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "IT WOULD ONLY BE WHEN THEY
FALL BELOW A CERTAIN - GETTING LESS FROM THE MILITARY THAN
THEY WOULD BE GETTING FROM THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS.
THAT IS MY MOTION - COME BACK WITH THAT."
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER TO
ACTUALLY MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE AS ANTHONY (GARGANESE)
JUST READ." COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "AND BRING
SOMETHING BACK." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION. MR. SMITH ADDED, "I WILL
BRING SOMETHING BACK."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ASKED, "WHEN THAT INFORMATION COMES
BACK, I AM JUST CURIOUS, HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE IN
OUR CITY?"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese said, "So, you don't want to take any action on the Policy as written,
you want to bring it all back?" Commissioner Miller noted, "Yes, bring back some ideas
and what is the exposure."
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Mayor Bush then suggested, "Item '210', we should have a Motion to Table that."
"SO MOVED." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
211. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 10,2007 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
212. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2008-05 Finding A
Public Purpose For Publication Of Public Information Regarding The January 29,
2008 Constitutional Amendment No.1.
Attorney Garganese said, "Just need to add one (1) word to the Resolution, in Section 1.,
right at the end, it says 'To constitute a lawful and necessary purpose'. Just need to insert
the word 'public' - so it would be 'Public purpose'."
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese commented on the Peters property.
Next, Attorney Garganese reported that a lawsuit was settled in Mediation.
Attorney Garganese commented on the Jesup's Reserve situation.
Lastly, Attorney Garganese then spoke about the Binford case.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces reminded everyone about this Thursday's Special
Meeting.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 5:42 p.m.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces introduced new employee LaDonna Slayter.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor - Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore remarked, "I want to compliment Kip and the Public
Works people on the wonderful open house the other day, over at the new Public Works
facility. 1 was really impressed with the exhibits you had there and 1 just wish that
everybody in the City could see the kind of things that your people are doing over there
for the benefit of all of us. But it was a fine job, job well done and Congratulations and
thank you."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked if everyone for this Thursday's Special Meeting could sit
at the same level.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I was impressed with the level of activity when we had
the opening for the new Public Works - I stayed and went through all the demonstrations
and I was so impressed with the staff's commitment that day to all their demonstrations."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "It was really, very gratifying. They were proud."
Commissioner McGinnis then noted, "It was that good."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT CARA LYNN ROESNER" TO THE BOWS
BOARD. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS
ADDED, "I MAKE THAT A MOTION." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Krebs spoke of some documents that she shared with the City
Commission related to the proposed Fire Assessment and then read a statement; in which
Commissioner Krebs mentioned that in the future, instead of words, she would prefer real
numbers.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller said that he would like to see Staff come back with something on
this.
Manager McLemore noted, "We're prepared to give that complete discussion to you at
the next Meeting before you make the final decision and we'll create - as many options
as we can."
Further discussion.
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Manager McLemore noted, "Weare going to show you where the original calculations
were and what the calculations are today and they have changed upward."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore suggested the need to see details related to this Assessment and if
this Assessment is not done, what will the situation look like.
Manager McLemore then said, "We will provide you with a response to that and what
alternatives may be available to you." With further comments, Commissioner McGinnis
asked for all alternatives and options related to the outcome of the January 29th, 2007
Election results.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on the proposed Assessment.
Next, Mayor Bush noted tomorrow's Florida League of Cities' Press Conference on
Shadowbrook Trail in the Winding Hollow subdivision.
Mayor Bush mentioned he would not be able to attend the January 17th, 2008 Tri-County
League of Cities Luncheon, but that Deputy Mayor Gilmore would be standing in for
him. Mayor Bush would be instead giving the "State of the City" address at another
event, also on the 1 ih of January 2008.
The Scottish-Highland Games were mentioned next by Mayor Bush.
Mayor Bush noted a meeting he has scheduled with Representative Dean Cannon on
January 28th, 2007 and said that ifthere is anything he should bring up, to let him know.
Lastly, Mayor Bush stated, "Kip (Lockcuff), Congratulations, you made Public Works
look fun."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown asked if the public purpose in Agenda Item '212' should have been
done differently.
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Secondly, Commissioner Brown inquired if the Planning and Zoning Board/Local
Planning Agency had been brought up to speed in preparation for this Thursday's Special
Meeting. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AS LA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department stated, "Absolutely."
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NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned recent comments by Seminole County Chairman Brenda Carey
on the issue of CALNO (Council of Local Governments in Seminole County) and similar
Boards.
"I WOULD SUPPORT JUST LEAVING THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN COMMENTED FOR THE RECORD ABOUT THE
STATUS OF SEMINOLE COUNTY.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore reviewed some dates he had received from Ms. Pam Lallathin on a
Memorial Service.
Regarding a newly proposed date of February 8th, 2007 for a Memorial Service, Mayor
Bush said, "Shoot for the 9th [of February] then." No time was specified.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. William Payne, 510 Bentley Street, Oviedo, Florida: thanked the City for their
support of the Dog Park.
Mr. Jim Ridgely, 622 East Washington Street, Orlando, Florida: representing Colliers
Arnold, Mr. Ridgely said he supported Agenda Item "606".
Mr. Gregory T Davis, 4590 118th Avenue North, Clearwater, Florida: also supported
Agenda Item "606".
Ms. Loretta Ames, 150 Third Street, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the City
Commission and Mr. Pula for the Dog Park.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a
document he had distributed to the City Commission related to the proposed Fire
Assessment Fees.
Mr. Damon Basco, 1178 Baltic Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: introduced himself to the
City Commission. Commissioner Krebs mentioned she was hoping to Appoint him to the
Board of Trustees.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:23 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 6:41 p.m.
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WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
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608. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Ed Steigerman Of
606 Pearl Road To Remove (1) Specimen Tree Located In The Front Yard Of His
Residence.
Mr. Mike Mingea, City Arborist, Community Development Department presented this
Agenda Item to the City Commission.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
609. Seminole County Economic Development Department
Requesting The City Commission To Explore Adoption Of A Resolution
Designating The 17-92 CRA (Community Redevelopment Area) District A
Brownfield Area.
Mr. John Metsopoulos, US 17-92 CRA Program Manager, Seminole County, 1055 AAA
Drive, Suite 145, Heathrow, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this Agenda
Item and stated, "What I'm asking tonight is, the go ahead to work with your City
Manager and your City Clerk to proceed with the adoption at a later date of the
Resolution. "
With discussion, Manager McLemore commented for the Record, "Does the adoption of
this Resolution, commit the City to any matching requirements or anything of that nature
that we would not see at this point in time but may experience down the road?"
Mr. Metsopoulos responded, "No, in fact the Resolution specifically states there's no
financial or legal obligation that the City has unless it chose in the future to make an
additional - as far as adoption of this program; the Resolution is very loud and clear that
there is no financial obligation. All ofthe funds come from the State."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mr. Metsopoulos then explained, "Just to give you a quick rundown, what 1 will do is get
the file over to the City Clerk and the City Manager and then what will happen will be at
the next Meeting, you'll have a Public Hearing portion, where property owners can come
and if they want, opt out of the program." Furthermore, Mr. Metsopoulos noted, "And
then after that Public Hearing part, you can then move to adopt the formal Resolution
declaring that portion of (US Highway) 17-92, a - Brownfield area, but as we're calling
it, a SEED - Seminole Economic Enhancement District."
Further discussion.
Mr. Metsopoulos added to the City Commission, "I am going to be making phone calls to
each and everyone of you, to sit down with you."
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502. Community Development Department
Recommends The City Commission Hear The Request For A Waiver From Section
6-86. (Minimum Building Setbacks In A PUD (Planned Unit Development)), By
Way Of Subsection 20-354. (d) (7), Of The City Code Of Ordinances, To Allow The
Replacement Of An Existing Screened Covered Porch With A Sun Room At The
Rear Of The Residence Of 891 Stirling Drive (Lot 51, The Highlands Section One,
As Recorded In Plat Book 18, Pages 95-96).
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on
this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Ann Grimes, 892 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and noted she was in favor of the Request.
Ms. Nancy Pouncey, 893 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: agreed with Ms.
Grimes.
Ms. Holly Foster, 889 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: thought this would
enhance the property and was in favor of it.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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Mr. Dan Gilmartin, 891 Stirling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this request.
Discussion.
Mr. Baker noted, "Since we at Staff have not seen any Plans, we can't verify whether or
not a footer will be required, so you may want to consider - do you want a Waiver if it is
approved to apply whether or not they need to tear the slab out and put a new footer, or
not?"
Mr. Gilmartin stated, "I'm not changing the footprint on that at all."
"I MOVE TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side A
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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606. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification To Allow The City Manager To Approve Or Deny Building-Mounted
Identification Signage, Particularly That In Excess Of 14 Feet In Height, For The
Villagio Shopping Center.
Mr. Baker spoke on this Agenda Item and said, "We can take signs on the appropriate
parts of the building fa9ade to the City Manager and get his approval and not have to
bring each individual sign for each tenant to you as the Commission."
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Manager McLemore remarked, "I certainly don't have any problem with that as long as
we have a clear criteria upon which 1 am going to make those decisions."
Mr. Baker explained, "If the sign - meets the two foot (2') and the appropriate width,
seventy percent (70%) of the store frontage, then we would take it to the City Manager as
we do with other signs in other parts of the City and if he feels that it fits and is
appropriate then we can sign off in Planning and go to the Building Department. They
can look at the wind loading and the electrical stuff and then issue the Permit."
Discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON CLARIFIED, "THE SIGN DOES MEET FOURTEEN FEET
(14'). I BELIEVE THE REQUIREMENT WAS FOR TWELVE FEET (12') OUT
THERE, AND THIS WAS THE SITUATION WHERE THEY DID NOT GET THE
CONDITIONS PRINTED OUT. THEY BUILT IT ACCORDING TO PLAN."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Note: This Agenda Item is also discussed on page 20.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment
To The Board Of Trustees To Fill The Seat Previously Held By Guy DeMaio.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DAMON [BASCO]" TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush then introduced Mr. Andrew Jones, a Deputy Prosecutor who lives in
Oviedo and is thinking about running for the Legislature.
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500.1 Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Approve The Proposed Amendment To The
2007 InterLocal Agreement For Public School Facility Planning And School
Concurrency (ILA) Which Establishes The Mandatory Date Of January 1,2008, As
The Effective Date For Implementation Of School Concurrency As Established By
The State Land Planning Agency For The Seminole County School District In
Accordance With Section 163.3177(12)(i), Florida Statutes.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item and mentioned, "On page 9 of 41, there is a
description of a Committee called the 'Public Schools Facilities Planning Committee'.
The reason I wanted to bring that to your attention is that we will be asking you to
appoint one (1) Elected Official to participate in this Committee and it is described in the
Interloca1 Agreement.
The duties of that Committee are to meet at least semi-annually and also at the annual
joint School Board Workshop and one of the meetings would be scheduled in March."
Mayor Bush stated, "Maybe we can do that after we finish this item."
Next, Mayor Bush mentioned that the word "January" was spelled incorrectly.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2 Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-22, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text
Amendment, Establishing A Public School Facilities Element And Amending The
Capital Improvements And The Intergovernmental Coordination Elements
Consistent With Chapter 163, Florida Statutes And 9-J5, Florida Administrative
Code.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
AGAIN DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED (PLEASE ALSO SEE
PAGES 16-17). .:..:.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
606. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification To Allow The City Manager To Approve Or Deny Building-Mounted
Identification Signage, Particularly That In Excess Of 14 Feet In Height, For The
Villagio Shopping Center.
Manager McLemore said, "I just need to make sure that you understood that that sign was
built according to Plan, but that Plan was a flawed document." Commissioner Krebs
remarked, "Right." Manager McLemore added, "Did you understand that? Y our Code is
twelve feet (12'). That sign is fourteen feet (14')." Furthermore, Manager McLemore
added, "I just need to make sure that you understand that sign is a foot and a half higher
than it should be." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I personally think I understand."
Note: This Agenda Item is also discussed on pages 16-17.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Approve Resolution 2007-53, Vacating A 73-Square
Foot Portion Of Blumberg Boulevard And Conveying Same To Tuskawilla
Associates, LLC, The Only Adjoining Private Property Owner.
Attorney Garganese read the Resolution by "Title" into the Record.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Miller left the dais at 7:27 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Approve First Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01 Which
Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The City Of
Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Smith spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "It does not address rates at this point.
That would come at the second Reading of this Ordinance with a corresponding Initial
Rate Resolution."
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-24, A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The
Future Land Use Map Designation Of 7.54 Acres, Located On The South Side Of
Winter Springs Boulevard, Immediately West Of Howell Creek And The Chelsea
Pare At Tuscawilla Subdivision From (Winter Springs) "Recreation And Open
Space" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas) To (Winter
Springs) "Medium Density Residential" (3.6 DU (Dwelling Unit) To 9.0 DU/Acre)
And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas.).
.
Commissioner Miller returned to the dais at 7:31 p.m.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE SAID, "I AM CONCERNED THAT WHEN I
READ THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE TOOK RECREATIONAL SPACE AND
CONVERTED IT TO HOUSING." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "I
PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE AT LEAST AN
EXPLANATION OF WHAT OCCURRED, AND IT IS NOT IN HERE."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE EXPLAINED, "IT IS IN THE - MODIFICATION TO
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AGO." ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN INQUIRED, "WOULD
YOU LIKE ME TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE RECITALS INTO THE
'WHEREAS' CLAUSES?" DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE REMARKED, "I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INCORPORATED." COMMISSIONER KREBS
SUGGESTED, "I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THE ASTERISK."
"INCLUDE SOME SORT OF EXPLANATION REGARDING - AN ASTERISK -
REGARDING HOW AND WHY OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO PUT IN
EXPLAINING THAT PART OF THE CONCERN." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "YOU WANT TO ADD SOME 'WHEREAS'
RECITALS TO REFLECT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE
REASONS BEHIND THAT AND THE EXCHANGE."
MAYOR BUSH INQUIRED, "THIS WON'T CAUSE US TO HAVE ANOTHER
SECOND READING OF THIS?" ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "NO."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests The City Commission Approve On Second Reading And Adopt Ordinance
2007-32 Which Amends Chapter 8 - Flood Damage Prevention.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2007-32 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2008-01, Authorizing The
City Manager And Police Department To Conduct A Nine Month Study On The
Effects Of On-Street Parking On City Roads Within Certain Study Areas Within
The City.
Attorney Garganese introduced this Agenda Item.
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Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs asked when the Study would commence. Captain Glenn Tolleson,
Police Department stated, "Within two (2) weeks - the copy of the Ordinance is going to
go, a map of the affected areas is going to go and then a letter with what it is going to
entail, with some suggestions."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission To Consider The Legal Opinion Of The City
Attorney Regarding Conservation Easements And To Provide Whatever Direction
The Commission Deems Appropriate.
Attorney Garganese introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER
BRING BACK A WAY FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO, TO MAKE THIS
HAPPEN AND A LIST OF AGENCIES THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR
CONSIDERATION IN THIS EASEMENT PROCESS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER ASKED, "AND THAT WOULD BE IN A
PRIORITIZED DESCENDING ORDER..." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID,
"...YES IT WOULD."
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE MENTIONED, "IF YOU WANT US TO GO BACK
AND GET A LIST OR COME UP WITH SOME - STRATEGIES AND PRESENT
THOSE TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING; I THINK THAT IS GOOD
DIRECTION."
Tape 2/Side B
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO
PRIORITIZE IT, JUST BRING THE INFORMATION BACK TO US."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Attorney
Presents Information Regarding Existing Enclaves Located Within The City And
The Legal Options For Annexing Said Enclaves Under Florida Law. The City
Attorney Also Requests That The City Commission Provide Formal Direction
Regarding The Available Options.
Attorney Garganese presented opening comments on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese noted, "There are some other complicated legal nuances that would
have to be worked out in these types of agreements. There are some planning issues too
that have to be worked out. The bottom line is, yes, in my view there are opportunities to
expedite the annexation of these enclaves, however it requires an agreement with
Seminole County. There is a 1987 Agreement that is currently on the books so you
would have to request that Seminole County sit down and negotiate changes to that 1987
Agreement in my view. And if that is what the Commission wants to do - my
recommendation in the Agenda Item is to, as a matter of courtesy is to approach
Seminole County and broach this issue with them to see if there is a willingness to sit
down and negotiate this type of Agreement.
If they were not, I mentioned in the - Agenda Item under the Interlocal Boundary Service
Agreement Act, you could compel Seminole County to sit down and negotiate in good
faith.
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Under the Act, you would just adopt an initiating Resolution, and you would identify
what the issues are that you want to address. You would provide the appropriate maps.
You would forward that off to Seminole County. They would be required to adopt a
responding Resolution and then negotiations would start, and those negotiations would
have to be conducted in good faith for a period of at least six (6) months. But under the
Act, Seminole County is not required to agree to anything. They're just simply required
to negotiate."
Further comments.
"ALL OF THESE REALLY ARE ENCLAVES IN THE TRUE SENSE OF THE
WORD WHICH WE SURROUND THEM ON FOUR (4) SIDES - THAT WOULD
BE MY MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT ANTHONY [GARGANESE] HAS GIVEN."
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "GO AFTER ALL OF THEM?" COMMISSIONER
MILLER SAID, "YES." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND
THAT? RIGHT?" COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "YES."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2008-04 Establishing Oversized
Vehicle Restrictions On Blumberg Boulevard.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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605. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With Information On The Vacated Public Works
Compound Property.
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department spoke on this Agenda
Item.
Members of the City Commission and Staff suggested that there should be more park
area on the west side of the City; that the Fire Department might need the land later; their
concerns with Fire vehicle access and response times; closing streets and related possible
issues; parking concerns; that this should become a park; building a new community
center on this property; and buying the residence which is currently there.
Manager McLemore said, "I think we need to come up with probably three (3) to four (4)
development alternatives for you to look at and how we would create a park system there
that's compatible with what its' uses around it, provide for the appropriate support
facilities, parking, and all of that - and 1 think we have a clear direction of where you
want to go."
Further discussion followed on a pocket park.
"SO MOVED - FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH
OPTIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
607. Chairman Of The Code Enforcement Board
Requesting To Review With The City Commission The Winter Springs Code
Enforcement Board Policy Manual Which Was Recently Approved By The Code
Enforcement Board.
Manager McLemore gave an overview on the issues related to this Agenda Item.
Mr. Mathew Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida: as the
Chairman of the Code Enforcement Board, Mr. Matisak addressed the City Commission
on the efforts of the Code Enforcement Board.
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Discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Further discussion.
Discussion followed on whether there should be a Special Magistrate instead of the Code
Enforcement Board.
Attorney Garganese remarked, "When these Rules and Procedures filtered their way up
to the point where it was placed on the Commission Agenda, I had an opportunity to
review them. There are some changes that I would recommend. I shared those changes
with Matt (Matisak). He has a copy of my letter and I will give you a copy after the
Meeting. "
Further discussion.
Attorney Garganese recommended, "I have always said they [Code Enforcement Board]
need to have legal counsel, one way or another." With further comments, Attorney
Garganese recommended, "I think the Code [Enforcement] Board needs legal counsel."
Discussion continued.
Commissioner Brown said to Chairman Matisak, "As a Volunteer, I know how seriously
you take this and I think the amount of initiative that you and the Board showed in taking
this undertaking and getting it to the point it is today, really needs to be commended."
Commissioner Krebs added, "Absolutely."
With further discussion, Commissioner Miller said he would like more information on
how many cities had legal counsel and how many Appeals there have been.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "When you look at this document tomorrow Matt
(Matisak), I believe you use interchangeably, 'Clerk of the Board' and 'City Clerk'. I
think you mean one and the same." Chairman Matisak explained, "There are some typos
in there and at the last Meeting, I addressed that to ensure that the Clerk can make those
changes and we Voted on that to ensure that she can freely make those changes - as long
as there isn't an intent changing the document, so she can do that."
Discussion continued.
Mayor Bush noted, "You heard both the Attorney and Matt (Matisak) agree that this can
be corrected. Does the Commission have any issue with that at all?" Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "No." Commissioner Krebs stated, "No. He is going to take care of
that tomorrow."
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Manager McLemore commented, "The appropriate role is not Matt (Matisak) sitting here
to inform you what they've done. The appropriate role is to provide you with these
things so they can be analyzed because you're the one that is going to pay if there is a
mistake. That is something that we have to have a fundamental understanding about -
they represent you."
Furthermore, "That's the reason these things have to be reviewed and analyzed before
they adopt them; not just come in here and tell you this is what we're doing."
Discussion.
On how to proceed, Manager McLemore suggested, "You give the Attorney the authority
to work with them and work these things out."
"I MAKE THAT MOTION - THAT WE ARE ENPOWERING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO..." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "...AND IF THEY GET
INTO A DISPUTE, THEY CAN'T AGREE - IT COMES BACK TO YOU."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE REMARKED, "IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
THEY'RE DOING THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES ADOPTED
BY THE COMMISSION, OR FLORIDA LAW, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO
YOU. THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE FOUND THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED
ARE IN THAT LETTER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MOVE THAT WE MANDATE LEGAL COUNSEL BE PRESENT AT ALL
CODE ENFORCEMENT [BOARD] MEETINGS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. ATTORNEY GARGANESE ASKED, "DO YOU
WANT THAT TO BE THE CITY ATTORNEY OR DO YOU WANT TO GET
ANOTHER..." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "...1 AM
COMFORTABLE THAT - YES, THAT IT WOULD BE THE CITY ATTORNEY."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "I COULDN'T PRESENT CASES AND
REPRESENT THE BOARD. IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER." SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION
HELD IN ABEYANCE OR THE DECISION TO IMPLEMENT IT, HELD IN
ABEYANCE UNTIL WE GET SOME FEEDBACK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT
TABLED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MILLER
CONTINUED, "UNTIL WE GET SOME INFORMATION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further discussion followed on a Hearing Officer. Mayor Bush suggested Attorney
Garganese look into the need for this.
In other City business, Mayor Bush spoke further on the "Data that the Commission
wants to see coming back on this before the - Second Reading of this Ordinance" on the
proposed Fire Assessment Fees.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9: 17 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROV~D:
R JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the January 28, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.