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REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
APRIL 27, 1992
The Regular Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Winter Springs, Florida,
was called to order by Mayor Philip A. Kulbes at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call:
Mayor Philip A. Kulbes, present
Deputy Mayor John Langellotti, present
City Manager Richard Rozansky, present
City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, present
Commissioners:
John V. Torcaso, present
Don Jonas, present
Terri Donnelly, present
Cindy Kaehler, absent
Also present: Attorney Keith Bricklemyer
The invocation was given by City Manager Richard Rozansky and the pledge of allegiance
to the flag was led by Commissioner Terri Donnelly.
Approval of minutes of March 23, 1992 as amended and April 13, 1992:
There were no additions or corrections; the minutes stand approved as presented.
Public Comment:
Gene Lein, Winged Foot Circle and representing Country Club Village Homeowners
Association read his letter as follows: "We the officers and members of the Board
of Directors of Country Club Village Homeowners' Association, having been
authorized by the General Membership in a vote taken on April 14, 1992, do hereby
petition the City of Winter Springs in the matter of establishing a Special Taxing
District for the Country Club Village Subdivision of Winter Springs. This would
commence with the taxable year 1993 and would be for the sole purpose of collecting
the cost of its street lighting.
Country Club Village Homeowners' Association and the City of Winter Springs would
enter into an agreement to have these funds collected under a non ad valorem tax
line to be disbursed to Florida Power Corporation."
Mayor Kulbes said this would be discussed at the May 4, 1992 Workshop for special
taxing districts.
James Ferguson, Orange Ave., read a letter into the record which is attached to the minutes.
Public Hearing for Ordinance No. 513, amending, revising and replacing in its entirety
the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Winter Springs, Florida, etc. Second Reading:
Attorney Kruppenbacher read Ord. No. 513 by title only on second reading.
Mr. Fred Goodrow, Henigar & Ray, the City's consultants on the Comprehensive Plan, was
present to speak to the Commission. He said the Commission has the final public
hearing document with all the revisions that have been directed by the Board. It also
contains a concurrency management system that sets out procedures for monitoring and
insuring compliance with a level of service standard policies that are in the document.
Sandy Darby, a representative from the Dept. of Community Affairs located at 2740
Centerview Drive, Tallahassee, Florida, was present to speak to the Commission. She
thanked the City for the invitation to attend the public hearing. She said as the
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Department's representative she is authorized to restate their position as expressed
in their Oct. 12, 1991 Objections, Recommendations and Comments Report and to listen
to all parties. She said although she can comment on proposals to resolve objections
she cannot modify the Department's position or approve proposals discussed this evening.
Final approval of any proposal may only be granted by the Secretary of the Department
of Community Affairs, and she said the Department's role with respect to approving
proposed revisions will begin upon adoption and submittal of the Comprehensive Plan
pursuant to Chap. 9J5, Florida Administrative Code. She said she would be available
during the public hearing to answer any questions.
Mayor Kulbes recessed the Commission Meeting and opened the public hearing for comments
from the public for or against our Comprehensive Plan.
Glenn Marvin, Winter Springs Boulevard, raised two issues, one regarding the vesting
language in the Land Use Section, Goal 3, Objective A, Policy 8.
Greg Kern, the City Planner, read into the record the new Policy:
"The City shall adopt land development regulations to provide for the issuance of a
vested rights special use permit. When the City or court of competent jurisdiction
determines that an owner has relied in good faith on an act or omission of the
government that creates development rights and the owner has so substantially changed
his position that it would be inequitable to apply the requirements of this plan in
any way that would deny the development rights previously acquired."
The City Planner explained this will be added to the final version.
The second issue raised by Mr. Marvin was in the conservation element, with regard
to the Policy C-2 which he felt amounts to a 25% taking of developable acreage, and
he said it is "unfair".
Don McIntosh, 2200 Park Ave., Winter Park, said he was representing four landowners
in the City of Winter Springs. Mr. McIntosh spoke about his concerns with the
conservation element. He spoke about his concern with the mixed use land designation
on the Springs Land tract of land, and asked that be changed to commercial. Another
concern is the adoption of specific language concerning vested rights.
On page 17 he suggested that market demands should be one of the priorities and one
of the goals, and he said it is absent.
Mr. McIntosh spoke about pages 32, 33, 34 and 73, and asked that he be allowed to
review the concurrency management system.
Jenny Thomas, Spring Avenue,in Seminole County, said the community of Clifton
Springs should always remain conservation and the most low density residential land
use is the most that should ever occur there.
Carol Coulon Woods, Vistawilla, read a letter from the Tuscawilla Homeowners
Association, dated April 24, 1992, into the record, and this letter is attached to
the minutes.
Robert King, Black Hammock, spoke about the coordination with the Expressway Authority.
He said the Expressway Authority is the proper people to coordinate with on the
engineering around the interchange and for land use density the County Planning Department
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should be contacted.
Jim Mikes, Florida Country Clubs, Inc., said his purpose for coming here this
evening is to put on the record the fact that they do object to the land use
classification that has been applied to their property. He presented a letter
summarizing his comments which are attached to the minutes. He said for the
record they do object to a recreational designation on all 243 acres, when only
190 acres are golf course.
Dennis Wells, Attorney representing the Cascells family, spoke about their concerns.
He said this plan may legislate growth out of existence. He asked if the classification
of conservation is really necessary and in some cases property owners rights may be
affected to such an extent that in some cases may amount to a taking.
Hugh Harling, Harling Lochlin & Associates, Courtland Ave., Orlando, explained the
definition of conservation in the State of Florida is different than our definition
in Winter Springs, and he said we need to check the definitions, and he said he would
not yield on the 25% and would not give that to the State.
Mayor Kulbes closed the public hearing and reconvened the Commission Meeting. Mayor
Kulbes then called a recess at 9:10 p.m. and called the meeting back to order at 9:20
p.m.
Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso that the 25% be changed to
area be at the discretion of the City and buffers be zoned minimum
Seconded by Commissioner Donnelly. Discussion. Vote on the motion:
Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye;
Langellotti, aye; motion carried.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to rescind the prior motion. Seconded by
Commissioner Donnelly. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye;
motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to amend Policy C-2 as listed on page 32 of the
Comprehensive Plan from 25% to 10%. Seconded by Commissioner Donnelly. Discussion.
Vote on the motion: Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner
Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye; motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Donnelly, to add on page 33, 5-E "unless otherwise
approved by all jurisdictional agencies." Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti.
Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly,
aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to approve Ordinance No. 513. Seconded by
Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Donnelly, aye;
Commissioner Torcaso, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye;
motion carried.
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Braewick-Conceptual Plan of remainder of property by Quest Properties (potential
purchasers of property):
Don LeBlanc, Land Development Coordinator, presented the plan of Braewick that was
approved in January of 1987. There were 272 units approved and now they are asking
for 227 units.
Thomas Skelton, American Civil Engineering Company said there is going to be a
significant reduction in the number of units from what was originally approved.
There will also be a significant reduction in impervious area and open space will
be increased. The issue of the retention area has not been completely answered.
Mr. LeBlanc explained this is a conceptual plan only. This was brought before the
Commission before they expended monies on final engineering. The preliminary
engineering/final development plan that was approved in 1987 had received many
variances. Since that time the private roadways have gone to 50 ft. right of ways,
but there are 22 ft. right of ways there now. Also granted was a variance for 50 ft.
from the water's edge and no sidewalks.
Dave Clark, Quest Properties, said our intent is for the roadways and the Homeowners
Association and all of those things associated with the original development plan to
remain in tact. He said they would like to continue with the private road way
systems and because it is an unfinished development that was started, it would be
very difficult to mesh 50 ft. roadways with 22 ft. roadways.
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Charles Princiotta, Braewick Street, said they have a maintenance system now that
takes care of the common grounds, and if this developer is going to put in backyards
who is going to care for the common grounds?
Mr. Skelton explained these are two different product lines and the backyards would
be the responsibility of the new owners. He said the biggest problems they face
are they going to be held to the 50 ft. wide easements and sidewalks.
Mr. LeBlanc explained the Staff is considering this a modification to the approved
preliminary plan/final development plan because this was scheduled to be built in
three phases and what was granted in 1987 was good for all three phases. He said
they did not want anyone to proceed without the Commission being aware of it.
Staff has no objection as long as they meet all the remainder of the code requirements.
Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to approve the preliminary conceptual plan.
Seconded by Commissioner Donnelly. Discussion. Attorney Kruppenbacher said for the
record, by the Commission's approval of the preliminary conceptual plan and their
subsequent reliance thereon and expenditures of money we will not be permitted at
the time that this project comes back for final approval to say they must put in
sidewalks and 50 ft. streets. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Jonas, aye;
Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
motion carried.
John Ferring, Baltic Lane, spoke about the Commission's action to amend the plan and
asked if that was legal.
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Sandy Darby, DCA representative, said when our plan is submitted to DCA, they will
review it and the Secretary of the Department will make a determination to find the
plan in compliance or not in compliance. If it is not in compliance the City and DCA
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will work through a settlement agreement.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said on May 5, 1992 at 9:00 a.m. in his office will be the
mediation on the Florida Country Club lawsuit. Judge Edwards will be the mediator.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said he was advised of the problem on the road that abuts
the park from the storm, and that matter has been referred to the insurance company.
City Manager Richard Rozansky:
Effluent Reuse System Consulting Engineering Services Amendment 1 to Conklin, Porter
and Holmes Agreement:
Manager Rozansky explained this is an amendment to the agreement dated Oct. 14, 1991
and covers bidding services, administration of construction services, and construction
quality control testing for the 2 MG storage tank and the Wagner's Curve pipeline.
The cost for these services is approximately $25,200. Manager Rozansky said subject
to the Attorney's approval he recommends Commission accept this agreement.
Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to accept the extension of this contract in
the amount of $25,200. Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the
motion: Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner
Torcaso, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; motion carried.
Ord. No. 521 was removed from the Agenda.
Leonard Kozlov, City Engineer, said the City has received letters of intent to issue
permits for the borrow pits by the St. John's Water Management District and the
Department of Environmental Regulation. Under the law there is a 14 day window
where the City is informed and the City has an opportunity to object to the issuance
of the permit.
Mr. Kozlov said he was bringing this before the Commission because they have rejected
the project. Mr. Kozlov said if we decide to go on record and say we object to the
issuance of these permits because the Commission rejected the project, and list the
reasons, we would establish ourselves in a position and we would be involved in an
administrative hearing, and would have to defend our position why we objected to it.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said if they have their state permits, the burden is going to
be on this City to come up with reasons for them not to have the borrow pits. It was
decided to send the minutes of the meeting to show the issues raised by the Commission.
Manager Rozansky recommended we invite the Dept. of Transportation here to talk about the
entryway.
Bob Farley, John Webb & Associates, said we cannot deviate from DOT's requirements
which state that in order to do construction, you can only step down the speed limit
a maximum of 20 mph through the construction area. Therefore, the temporary road
(for about 30 days) must meet a 30 mph speed limit because SR 434 is posted at 50 mph.
There is a problem with Florida Power poles and they are willing to work with us.
Southern Bell has a junction box that handles 30,000 customers, so the road will have
to be relocated and redesigned and then Mr. Farley will have to go back to DOT for
their approval.
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Commission Seat IV - Terri Donnelly:
Commissioner Donnelly thanked Mr. Rozansky and Mr. Whitsett for the opportunity to
tour all our recreational facilities.
Commission Seat I - John V. Torcaso:
No report.
Commission Seat II - Don Jonas:
No report.
Commission Seat III - Don Whitsett:
Commissioner Langellotti asked to have the Special Taxing District which was brought
up by Mr. Lein on the agenda. Mayor Kulbes said this could be put on the May 11th
agenda.
Mayor's Office:
Mayor Kulbes said he is scheduling a Workshop for a computer report by the computer
people that have donated their time to look at our computer system in the City.
Mayor Kulbes spoke about hiring handicapped people.
Meeting was adjourned 11:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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City Clerk
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