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REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
AUGUST 12, 1991
The Regular Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Winter Springs, Florida,
was called to order by Mayor Philip A. Ku1bes at 7:30 P.M.
Roll Call:
Mayor Philip A. Ku1bes, present
Deputy Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
City Manager Richard Rozansky, present
City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, present
Commissioners:
Cindy Kaehler, present
Don Jonas, present
John Lange11otti, present
Terri Donnelly, present
The invocation was given by Commissioner Don Jonas and the pledge of allegiance to the
flag was led by Mayor Philip A. Ku1bes.
There were no additions or corrections to the minutes of the Regular Meeting of the
City Commission meeting of July 22, 1991. The minutes stand approved as submitted.
Public Comment:
Mayor Ku1bes presented Nick Samaro with a plaque stating "Congratulations Nick
Samaro National USA Wrestling Championship First Place Greco Roman Style in the 14
year category".
Paul Roloff, Morton Lane, spoke about a drainage problem at his home. He is to contact
the City Manager.
Joe Genova, Addidas Road, spoke about the Budget Workshop on Aug. 5th.
General Agenda:
Public Hearing for Ord. No. 506, amending Sec. 20-431(1) a. and f. of Winter Springs
Code of Ordinances; providing for the parking of recreational vehicles, etc. Second
Reading (Continued 7/22/91):
Mayor Ku1bes recessed the Commission Meeting and opened the public hearing for Ord. No.
506. Attorney Kruppenbacher read Ord. No. 506 by title only on second reading. Cindy
Genne11, Wildwood, asked what the change in the ordinance was. John Ferring, Baltic
Lane,said this should be looked into very closely. Mayor Ku1bes closed the public
hearing and reconvened the Commission Meeting.
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka that we do not approve Ord. No. 506. Seconded
by Commissioner Kaehler. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Jonas, no;
Commissioner Lange11otti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, no; Commissioner Partyka, aye;
Commissioner Kaehler, aye; motion carried.
Public Hearing for Ord. No. 507, amending the 1990-1991 FY Budget, etc. Second
Reading:
Attorney Kruppenbacher read Ord. No. 507 by title only on second reading. City
Manager Rozansky explained several changes were made in the Recreation Department.
In General Government, $10,000 was added to the Pension Reserve and adjusted the
Unemployment Compensation to $4,100.
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The concensus of the Commission was that any time there is a significant change,
plus or minus in the Budget, there should be a simple statement or footnote
explaining the change.
Motion was made by Commissioner Langellotti to adopt Ord. No. 507. Seconded by
Commissioner Partyka. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti,
aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler, aye;
Commissioner Jonas, aye; motion carried.
Request of Highlands Homeowners Association for reconsideration of sidewalk:
Mel Glickman, president of the Highlands Homeowners Association, spoke in regard
to this matter. Mr. Glickman read his statement as follows: I have been rather
quiet on the past few meetings on this matter, and I hope you will allow me some
time to discuss this matter as well as some of the concerns of the Highlands
residents. We realize this is not that important a subject for the Commission's
consideration. It may be an earth moving matter, certainly not an earth shattering
one but this may be symptomatic of a far greater problem in the way the Commission is
handling the request for motions in general or considering the Highlands in particular.
If so, I hope my comments will help lead to a satisfactory conclusion for all of us.
If you will recall a large group of Highlands residents tried to have the original
plan for the extension of Shepard Road changed for a variety of reasons, residents
safety being number one. When that request was denied, they were placated somewhat
by the knowledge that at least there would be a sidewalk when the road would be
extended. In January at the 11th hour, a request for a variance on the Shepard Road
sidewalk was presented to the Commission by Florida Land on a Friday and was then
approved on a vote on Monday. The Highlands Executive Director discovered this
motion had been passed and requested time at the July 8th meeting to ask for re-
consideration of the sidewalk. Were it not for her diligence we might have had real
problems in explaining to Highlands residents how this could have happened.
At that meeting she pointed out the errors in the letter presented by Florida Land's
engineering firm. After some discussion the City Attorney said that if there were
any misrepresentations made to the Commission he would "come down hard on them". I
question how. Then he stated that regardless of whether the Commission was right or
wrong in voting for the variance the vote could not be changed if it caused hardship
for the developer.
What kind of hardship can there be? The sidewalk was in their original plan for the
Highlands Lake Subdivision. Commissioner Partyka said he would really like to hear
if any misrepresentations were made to the Commission. Mr. Kruppenbacher suggested
that the City Engineer should get together with Kitty Degrenia to review the points
made in the engineering company's letter. Why wasn't this done before this matter
came before the Commission in the first place? Anyway this was now tabled until
the July 22nd meeting. At that meeting the sidewalk was discussed again. After
some facts were presented showing that there were misrepresentations in the engineering
letter, Commissioner Partyka innocently inquired why would a developer do that to which
Commissioner Kaehler was quick to give him the obvious answer, to save money.
This is the same Commissioner Partyka who was a party to insisting of two hours of
discussion at the July 8th Commission meeting on a matter that properly belonged before
the Planning & Zoning Board. And what was that great uproar all about?
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Look what the developers are doing in Tuscawilla! We better change the building
codes to protect the Tuscawilla residents. Yet Commissioner Partyka cannot
understand what a developer might be doing in the Highlands to save money.
This brings me to another point. Speaking for many of the Highlands' residents we
may sometimes get paranoid the way the Commission responds to Tuscawilla problems as
opposed to the manner in which Highlands' issues are handled. The Highlands may not
have the numbers, the affluence, the movers and shakers or the eloquent speakers that
appear at Commission meetings to represent Tuscawilla, but the Highlands PUD does have
more than 2,000 residents and we sometimes get the impression that our problems are not
being addressed in quite the same manner or speed as Tuscawilla's. Case in point, the
garage door fiasco that has been going on for years in Greenspointe. Sometimes we
even feel invisible.
I remember a meeting I attended at City Hall with Kitty Degrenia, Jim Conger, who
was then president of the Highlands Homeowners Associaiton, the City Manager, the
Police and Fire Chiefs, various members of the Staff and Gerald Chancellor, Florida
Land Company. The meeting was held to discuss an alternate plan to the Shepard Road
extension as part of Florida Land's plan for Highlands Lakes. To this day there are
members of the Staff that don't even remember that this meeting ever occurred, but
back to the Shepard Road sidewalk.
At the July 22nd meeting just when it appeared that a vote would be taken Commissioner
Donnelly & Partyka both wondered why a representative from Florida Land was not present.
Maybe they did not know this was going to be discussed and maybe they should have a
chance to defend their position. Let's table the matter again until August 12th.
Maybe they will show up then. This even though as I understand it, an item listed on
the meeting agenda constitutes public notice, even though as I have been told
Commissioner Jonas had mentioned to Gerald Chancellor before the July 8th meeting that
the Highlands intended to fight this variance. Here we are for the third time and again
on the agenda. How come there was no such concern for the Highlands position on this
sidewalk when this motion first came up in January and wasn't even an agenda item?
I don't want it to sound like the Highlands has any problems with developers the way
Tuscawilla does. Our dealings with them all have been generally most cordial. They
usually exceed whatever we ask of them and we can understand when a developer tries
to save a few dollars. What we can't understand is how the Commission could have let
this pass.
Yes mistakes were made. Florida Land's engineering company made mistakes in the
letter that was presented to the Commission. The City Engineer made a mistake when he
approved the original request without checking out the claims made in the letter. But
worst of all the Commission made the mistake of acting hastily and thoughtlessly and
rushing to approve this variance. When was the last time a request for a motion was
offered on a Friday and passed on a Monday? You now have the opportunity to rectify
these mistakes by a simple vote. We trust you will do so at this meeting.
The City Engineer discussed the issues in Mr. McBriarity's letter of January 25th and
said he could not see any misrepresentations.
Gerald Chancellor, Florida Land Company explained he had no knowledge that this item
was on the agenda. He explained if we can leave a 16 foot buffer on the east side
of Shepard Road with the existing vegetation and trees in there, and have the gas line
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on the west side of the road, and work it out with the utilities and Utility
Department, then we should put it on the west side of the road. If we can not,
it is going to have to go on the east side of the road.
City Attorney Kruppenbacher asked Mr. Chancellor, "as I understand it right now, you
correct me if I am wrong, you have no trouble with agreeing with the Commission to
consider the variance on the sidewalks null and void and at the time you come forward
regarding the development of this road, if the Commission wants sidewalks on both
sides of the road at that time, you will be glad to do what they require and if they
do not, you will not, am I correct?" Mr. Chancellor answered, "correct, and we will
look to meet with the City Staff."
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka, based upon the agreement of the Developer,
that the previous variance that was requested and approved is rendered null and void,
and that the construction of the road shall be in accordance with the City requirements
and at the time you get ready for approvals, he has represented to you if you want
two sidewalks, you can have them and he will do it. Seconded by Commissioner
Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti, aye;
Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commisisoner Kaehler, aye;
Commissioner Jonas, aye; motion carried.
Mayor Kulbes called a recess at 9:10 p.m. and called the meeting back to order at 9:20 p.m.
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Resolution No. 661, appointing Trustees to the Board of Trustees, etc. (Tabled
7/22/91):
Attorney Kruppenbacher read Resolution No. 661 by title only.
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka to terminate all current Pension Board of
Trustee members effective today. Seconded by Commissioner Kaehler. Discussion.
Vote on the motion: Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler,aye; Commissioner
Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; motion carried.
The Commissioners each nominated a representative on the Pension Board of Trustees
as follows:
Commissioner Kaehler nominated Art Hoffmann
Commissioner Don Jonas nominated Seymor Berman
Commissioner John Langellotti nominated John Ferring
Commissioner Terri Donnelly nominated Bill Jacobs
Commissioner Paul Partyka nominated William Dickey
Motion was made by Commissioner Kaehler to approve Resolution No. 661 inserting in
Section 1 those five names. Seconded by Commisisoner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote
on the motion: Commissioner Kaehler, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner
Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; motion
carried.
Resolution No. 670, expressing appreciation to Ruth E. Smith, etc.:
Motion to adopt Resolution No. 670 by Commissioner Kaehler. Seconded by Commissioner
Partyka. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti,
aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler, aye;
motion carried.
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Resolution No. 671, expressing appreciation to John Horan, etc.:
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka to adopt Resolution No. 671. Seconded by
Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti,
aye; Commisisoner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler,
aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; motion carried.
First Reading of Ord. No. 508 amending Article V, Design Standards, Sec. 9-296, etc.:
Attorney Kruppenbacher read ord. No. 508 by title only on first reading.
Approval of contract to update Transportation Impact Fee Ordinance-Tipton Associates:
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka to approve the contract subject to legal
approval, and approving the fees to come from the impact fees that are collected to
be expended for this purpose. Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion.
Vote on the motion: Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye;
Commissioner Kaehler, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye;
motion carried.
Episcopal Church of the New Covenant Extension-Final Engineering Approval/Disapproval:
Motion was made by Commissioner Partyka that we approve final engineering for the
Episcopal Church of the New Covenant extension subject to the comments from Staff.
Seconded by Commissioner Donnelly. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner
Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner
Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; motion carried.
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City Manager Richard Rozansky:
Arbor Violation - deleted from this Agenda because the applicant was not notified.
Police (Sec. 391.8) and Fire (Sec. 396.8) Impact Fees:
Manager Rozansky explained in accordance with the Ordinance, once a year the City
Commission has to review our police and fire impact fees. This will be reviewed
during the budget meetings. This is formal notification that we are reviewing it.
Reports:
Don LeBlanc reported the Groundbreaking Ceremony for Central Winds Park is scheduled
for 10 a.m. on Wednesday, August 14, 1991.
Manager Rozansky reported on the
about the problems regarding the
our Agreement with the County.
Attorney look at that agreement
vandalism at the parks. Manager Rozansky spoke
areas in the County that we maintain because of
The concensus of the Commission was to have the
to see if it could be renegotiated.
Motion was made by Commissioner Langellotti that we put on the agenda the Florida
Power Easement for Central Winds Park. Seconded by Commissioner Kaehler. Discussion.
Vote on the motion: Commissioner Partyka, aye; Commissioner Kaehler, aye; Commissioner
Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Donnelly, aye; motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kaehler to approve the Florida Power Easement at
Central Winds Park. Seconded by Commissioner Partyka. Discussion. Vote on the motion:
Commissioner Kaehler, aye; Commissioner Jonas, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye;
Commissioner Donnelly, aye; Commissioner Partyka, aye; motion carried.
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The City Attorney said he has looked into the issue of lawns that have become
problems and said he will bring an ordinance at the next meeting.
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Attorney Kruppenbacher recommended that anytime anybody takes action that you
believe is adverse to you as a result of your exercising your official responsibili-
ties as a City Commissioner, that you report that adverse action to the Police Chief,
and the Police Chief be requested to refer to the State Attorney.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said the status of the School Board issue, they are not going
to pay for what they believe are impact fees, so that is still being discussed.
Commission Seat V - Paul P. Partyka:
No report.
Commission Seat I - Cindy Kaehler:
Commissioner Kaehler said there has been a lot of speculation whether or not she would
be running for re-election, and as of this date, she has not made that decision yet.
Commission Seat II - Don Jonas:
Commissioner Jonas said he wants to know why it took a month from the time we agreed
to everything that we are finally getting the ball rolling. Don LeBlanc, LDC, explained
the contractor could have started site clearing the day the contract was signed; however,
he chose not to do so until he had his permit. The building permit was not issued
because energy calculations were not submitted by the architect and the ball was
dropped on the septic tank; because of the relocation of drain fields more testing
had to be done. As soon as all that information was gathered, they were given their
notice to proceed on Aug. 14th at Central Winds Park.
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Commission Seat III - John Langellotti:
Commissioner Langellotti asked about the incident in Greenspointe and Attorney
Kruppenbacher said he would have a status report at the next meeting.
Commission Seat IV - Terri Donnelly:
Commissioner Donnelly reported the first impact fee School Board Study meeting was
held last Monday evening. She said by the 29th they should be ready with recommenda-
tions for an interim impact fee.
Mayor's Office:
Mayor Kulbes called a Budget Workshop Meeting for Aug. 14, 1991.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said following this meeting the Commission will convene in
executive session pursuant to F. S. 447. Executive Session means the matter is
closed to the public. It is for the purposes of solely discussing collective
bargaining with the union that represents the firefighter collective bargaining unit.
Meeting was adjourned 10:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mary T. Norton,
City Clerk
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