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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1991 01 07 City Commission Workshop Minutes . . . WORKSHOP MEETING CITY COMMISSION CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS .MONDAY, JANUARY 7, 1991 The Workshop Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Winter Springs, Florida, was called to order by Mayor Philip A. Kulbes at 7:00 p. m. Roll Call: Mayor Philip A. Kulbes, present Deputy Mayor Paul P. partyka, present City Manager Richard Rozansky, present City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, present Commissioners: Cindy Kaehler, present Don Jonas, present John Langellotti, present Terri Donnelly, present Vistawilla Drive Extension: Mr. Don McIntosh, McIntosh & Associates, made a presentation to the Commission. He said he had brought a series of exhibits that are comprehensive master plans for what is known as Tuscawilla 15 which is the parent Tract of the Vistawilla Drive alignment as well as a specific master plan for some of the development within Tuscawilla 15 and a number of additional exhibits as well as an aerial photograph. Mr. McIntosh spoke about the eagle's nest that is located in the southwest quadrant of Parcel 15. He said the alignment as presently configured is substantially outside the protection zone for any eagle in the area. Mr. McIntosh explained that the alignment for Vistawilla Drive has been shown on the Master Plan for Tuscawilla for many years. Now the Settlement Agreement which is now the Master Plan for Tuscawilla also speaks to the alignment of Vistawilla Drive. He said the alignment is set by one very formidable constraint and that is the existing termination point of Vistawilla Drive at the railroad. That is an inflexible firm point at which Vistawilla starts at the south part of Parcel 15. It is also further constrained on S.R. 434 by trying to provide as much separation from the east boundary line of the proposed ramps of the expressway. This alignment does meet the criteria of avoiding the wetlands. Mr. McIntosh further explained there is within Parcel 15 a number of other areas that are environmental areas and ponds, isolated wetlands, a major branch of Howell Creek, and those will affect the alignment of Tuscora and the development of all the parcels. It is the intention of this development to preserve the wetlands as they are shown and no impact is presently planned or proposed by the alignment of Vistawilla Drive. Mr. McIntosh said in May of 1989 he instructed his Staff to submit with the plans an alignment to City Staff for the purposes of confirming that this alignment was a sufficient alignment and it was o.k. to proceed with the design. He said they received a letter back saying that he was correct in moving forward with the revision of engineering and revised plat for Vistawilla Drive. This alignment went through almost a full year of City Staff review dealing with the different issues. Mr. McIntosh also presented a conceptual land use plan and an aerial photograph and several site plans. . . . Workshop Meeting, City Commission, Jan. 7, 1991 Page 2 Mr. McIntosh pointed out that this alignment can not be argued as the only one, but it is a good alignment. It does not yet address some of the concerns of the area residents. One concern was this particular alignment could potentially be viewed as a straight shot. He said he was instructed to look into whatever ideas he could come up with to make the road alignment mor~ safe. One idea was the speed bumps and another idea was additional road signage. Mr. McIntosh explained that he is not proposing to design or to recommend stop signs or speed bumps because the purpose of this road is to move traffic from point a to point b. However, if the City should decide that there are safety issues that go above and beyond the moving of traffic, the stop sign and speed bump installations are definitely vehicles that can be used more responsibly than speed limits and policemen to slow traffic. He said he was prepared to make a donation of $4,000 to the City for additional stop signs and speed bumps and that money could be used when the City decides they are needed. Discussion followed with the Commission. Then there was discussion with the following residents: Moti Khemlani, Tuscawilla Homeowners' Association, John Ferring, Chokecherry Drive, Glen Chiles, Wildcat Court, Peggy Baker, Tuscora Drive, Howard Seib, Seneca Boulevard, John Horan, Wood Duck Drive, and Gay Bess, Vistawilla Drive. This item will be discussed again on January 28th. Meeting was adjourned 9:25 p. m. Respectfully submitted, Mary T. Norton, City Clerk WORKSHOP MEETING CITY COMMISSION CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MONDAY, JANUARY 7, 1991 The Workshop Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Winter Springs, Florida, was called to order by Mayor Philip A. Kulbes at 7:00 p. m. Roll Call: Mayor Philip A. Kulbes, present Deputy Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present City Manager Richard Rozansky, present City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, present Commissioners: Cindy Kaehler, present Don Jonas, present John Langellotti, present Terri Donnelly, present Vistawilla Drive Extension: Mr. Don McIntosh, McIntosh & Associates, made a presentation to the Commission. He said he had brought a series of exhibits that are comprehensive master plans for what is known as Tuscawilla 15 which is the parent Tract of the Vistawilla Drive alignment as well as a specific master plan for some of the development within Tuscawilla 15 and a number of additional exhibits as well as an aerial photograph. Mr. McIntosh spoke about the eagle's nest that is located in the southwest quadrant of Parcel 15. He said the alignment as presently configured is substantially outside the protection zone for any eagle in the area. Mr. McIntosh explained that the alignment for Vistawilla Drive has been shown on the Master Plan for Tuscawilla for imany years. Now the Settlement Agreement which is now the Master Plan for Tuscawilla also speaks to the alignment of Vistawilla Drive. He said the alignment is set by one very formidable constraint and that is the existing termination point of Vistawilla Drive at the railroad. That is an inflexible firm point at which Vistawilla starts at the south part of Parcel 15. It is also further constrained on S.R. 434 by trying to provide as much separation from the east boundary line of the proposed ramps of the expressway. This alignment does meet the criteria of avoiding the wetlands. Mr. McIntosh further explained there is within Parcel 15 a number of other areas that are environmental areas and ponds, isolated wetlands, a major branch of Howell Creek, and those will affect the alignment of Tuscora and the development of all the parcels. It is the intention of this development to preserve the wetlands as they are shown and no impact is presently planned or proposed by the alignment of Vistawilla Drive. Mr. McIntosh said in May of 1989 he instructed his Staff to submit with the plans an alignment to City Staff for the purposes of confirming that this alignment was a sufficient alignment and it was o.k. to proceed with the design. He said they received a letter back saying that he was correct in moving forward with the revision of engineering and revised plat for Vistawilla Drive. This alignment went through almost a full year of City Staff review dealing with the different issues. Mr. McIntosh also presented a conceptual land use plan and an aerial photograph and several site plans. Workshop Meeting, City Commission, Jan. 7, 1991 Page 2 Mr. McIntosh pointed out that this alignment can not be argued as the only one, but it is a good alignment. It does not yet address some of the concerns of the area residents. One concern was this particular alignment could potentially be viewed as a straight shot. He said he was instructed to look into whatever ideas he could come up with to make the road alignment mor~ safe. One idea was the speed bumps and another idea was additional road signage. Mr. McIntosh explained that he is not proposing to design or to recommend stop signs or speed bumps because the purpose of this road is to move traffic from point a to point b. However, if the City should decide that there are safety issues that go above and beyond the moving of traffic, the stop sign and speed bump installations are definitely vehicles that can be used more responsibly than speed limits and policemen to slow traffic. He said he was prepared to make a donation of $4,000 to the City for additional stop signs and speed bumps and that money could be used when the City decides they are needed. Discussion followed with the Commission. Then there was discussion with the following residents: Moti Khemlani, Tuscawilla Homeowners' Association, John Ferring, Chokecherry Drive, Glen Chiles, Wildcat Court, Peggy Baker, Tuscora Drive, Howard Seib, Seneca Boulevard, John Horan, Wood Duck Drive, and Gay Bess, Vistawilla Drive. This item will be discussed again on January 28th. Meeting was adjourned 9:25 p. m. Respectfully submitted, Mary T. Norton, City Clerk