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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980 01 09 City Council Workshop Minutes 79-80-13 . . . WORKSHOP SESSION CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS JANUARY 9, 1980 The Workshop Session was called to order by Mayor Troy Piland. The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Councilman Wilfred Arnold. Roll Call: Mayor Troy Piland, present Deputy Mayor Wilfred Arnold, present City Manager Richard Rozansky, present Councilmen: William Jacobs, present John Bennett, present Maureen Boyd, present John Torcaso, present The purpose of the Workshop Session was to hear the presentation by Mr. Ernest J. Hesse, Sr., President of Housing Care Services, Inc. Also present was Attorney Warren Williams, Legal Counsel for Housing Care Services, Inc. Mr. Williams said Mr. Hesse is looking for a locale to place a retirement center. Mr. Hesse distributed copies of his preliminary presentation of the project "Living Inn Winter Springs," and he discussed the project with Council. Councilman Arnold asked what the tax base would be and Attorney Williams answered this could be handled by contract. Councilman Arnold asked about the sewer service and Mr. Hesse said he expects to use North Orlando Water & Sewer Corporation and if that isn't available then he would have to put in a temporary treatment plant. Councilman Arnold also asked if they would be paying utility tax (since this is a non-profit organization). This would have to be looked into. Mr. Hesse explained that the life care fees would be refundable to a point. . Councilman Jacobs asked what additional equipment would be needed by the Fire Depart- ment to handle the nine-stories and the Fire Chief said no additional equipment would be needed - it would be handled internally and would have to comply with the Life Safety Code. Mr. Hesse said a registered nurse is on duty 24 hours a day for emergency care. Mayor Piland asked Council if they would be willing to consider the 9 stories. Mr. Hesse said he could bring the building "down" to comply with regulations. Councilman Arnold then asked if the proposal were to be met within the current zoning regulations what would be Council's position. Attorney Williams explained the City would still have to take some positive action and say "yes, we would like to form this non-profit company". Mr. Hesse estimated the bond issue would be 7.2 million dollars. Mr. Hesse said before anything is done with the bond issue, he would need approval from the City - documentation that the City is in complete control of the project from the inception - the ownership of it; the leasing it out by the non-profit entity to Mr. Hesse and making sure that Mr. Hesse lives up to the lease termS and condition. Mayor Piland asked Council whether or not they are interested in the basic concept - the concept of getting in the retirement housing business. Attorney Williams said that basically the format for this project is that Mr. Hesse directs the City thru the bonding company and other attorneys. The non-profit organization that is formed thru the City is really a straw man that has to be formed for the Federal Government - other than that the City has no obligation. . . . . ,. ,. '. Workshop Session, Jan. 9, 1980, City Council 79-80-13 Page 2 Mr. Hesse was asked where is there a comparable project, where the City owns and leases it to another entity. Mr. Hesse did not know of one. Councilman Jacobs asked if the City would be leasing it to the Seventh Day Adventist Church? Mr. Hesse said the City would be leasing it to a limited partnership - money people supplied by Concord Mortgage Company. Councilman Jacobs asked who would be running it and Mr. Hesse said he would be running it as Housing Care Ministry. What does the church have to do with it? It is a vehicle in the way to market it. Would this unit be restricted just to adventists? No. Attorney Williams said it is a very complicated structure but the controls go back eventually to the City. As the lease gets written and the controls get put in, the City can oversee it or let it go if its being operated properly. Another question raised was "if a person had a problem that lived in this structure who would he go to?" Councilman Bennett asked what liabilities would the City incur if they went bankrupt? A public hearing is to be held to apprise the citizens of this project. Meeting was adjourned at 5:26 p. m. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Mary T. Norton, City Clerk 79-80-13 . ... .r"' WORKSHOP SESSION CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS JANUARY 9, 1980 The Workshop Session was called to order by Mayor Troy Piland. The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Councilman Wilfred Arnold. Roll Call: Mayor Troy Piland, present Deputy Mayor Wilfred Arnold, present City Manager Richard Rozansky, present Councilmen: William Jacobs, present John Bennett, present Maureen Boyd, present John Torcaso, present The purpose of the Workshop Session was to hear the presentation by Mr. Ernest J. Hesse, Sr., President of Housing Care Services, Inc. Also present was Attorney Warren Williams, Legal Counsel for Housing Care Services, Inc. Mr. Williams said Mr. Hesse is looking for a locale to place a retirement center. Mr. Hesse distributed copies of his preliminary presentation of the project "Living Inn Winter Springs," and he discussed the project with Council. Councilman Arnold asked what the tax base would be and Attorney Williams answered this could be handled by contract. Councilman Arnold asked about the sewer service and Mr. Hesse said he expects to use North Orlando Water & Sewer Corporation and if that isn't available then he would have to put in a temporary treatment plant. Councilman Arnold also asked if they would be paying utility tax (since this is a non-profit organization). This would have to be looked into. Mr. Hesse explained that the life care fees would be refundable to a point. ~ Councilman Jacobs asked what additional equipment would be needed by the Fire Depart- ment to handle the nine-stories and the Fire Chief said no additional equipment would be needed - it would be handled internally and would have to comply with the Life Safety Code. Mr. Hesse said a registered nurse is on duty 24 hours a day for emergency care. Mayor Piland asked Council if they would be willing to consider the 9 stories. Mr. Hesse said he could bring the building "down" to comply with regulations. Councilman Arnold then asked if the proposal were to be met within the current zoning regulations what would be Council's position. Attorney Williams explained the City would still have to take some positive action and say "yes, we would like to form this non-profit company". Mr. Hesse estimated the bond issue would be 7.2 million dollars. Mr. Hesse said before anything is done with the bond issue, he would need approval from the City - documentation that the City is in complete control of the project from the inception - the ownership of it; the leasing it out by the non-profit entity to Mr. Hesse and making sure that Mr. Hesse lives up to the lease terms and condition. Mayor Piland asked Council whether or not they are interested in the basic concept - the concept of getting in the retirement housing business. Attorney Williams said that basically the format for this project is that Mr. Hesse directs the City thru the bonding company and other attorneys. The non-profit ~. organization that is formed thru the City is really a straw man that has to be formed for the Federal Government - other than that the City has no obligation. '-- ,. ~".. Workshop Session, Jan. 9, 1980, City Council Page 2 79-80-13 r"' Mr. Hesse was asked where is there a comparable project, where the City owns and leases it to another entity. Mr. Hesse did not know of one. Councilman Jacobs asked if the City would be leasing it to the Seventh Day Adventist Church? Mr. Hesse said the City would be leasing it to a limited partnership - money people supplied by Concord Mortgage Company. Councilman Jacobs asked who would be running it and Mr. Hesse said he would be running it as Housing Care Ministry. What does the church have to do with it? It is a vehicle in the way to market it. Would this unit be restricted just to adventists? No. Attorney Williams said it is a very complicated structure but the controls go back eventually to the City. As the lease gets written and the controls get put in, the City can oversee it or let it go if its being operated properly. Another question raised was "if a person had a problem that lived in this structure who would he go to?" Councilman Bennett asked what liabilities would the City incur if they went bankrupt? A public hearing is to be held to apprise the citizens of this project. Meeting was adjourned at 5:26 p. m. Respectfully submitted, r"' ~~~ Mary T. Norton, City Clerk /""'" "-