HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009 06 08 Consent 204 Approval of May 26, 2009 Special MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Tuesday, May 26, 2009 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance followed a moment of silence.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Proiects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding The July 4 Celebration Of
Freedom/50tb Anniversary.
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs said, "Good job, Chuck (Pula, Director, Parks and
Recreation Department). Good job, Kevin (L. Smith, City Manager). I know that it has
been really difficult - to pull together that much money in such a short period of time, is
phenomenal, so thank you to your team Kevin (Smith), Chuck (Pula)."
Further discussion followed with Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle on coolers.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Community Development Department
Providing Information To The City Commission Detailing The Area ID Numbers
For The Three (3) Seminole Economic Enhancement Districts (SEED) Brownfield
Area Designations That Were Approved By The Commission In August, 2008.
Those Areas Are The Town Center, GreeneWay Interchange, And Village Walk
SEED (Seminole Economic Enhancement District)/Brownfield Areas.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Police Department
Requesting Commission Approval For Expenditure Of Funds To Purchase Two
Replacement Vehicles For The Police Department Out Of The Supplemental
Appropriation General Fund Reserve Funds.
Discussion.
Manager Smith spoke for the Record and explained, "Utilizing State Contract, or the
Florida Sheriff's Association contract is a Bid process. They have gone through the Bid
process back in the summer of last year, and doing so, it just alleviates us incurring the
cost to go through it."
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"MOTION THAT WE EMPOWER THE MANAGER AND THE CHIEF TO GO
OUTSIDE OF THE STANDARD CONTRACT TO GET A BETTER VALUE ON
TWO (2) REPLACEMENT VEHICLES FOR THE CITY." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
201. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009-35 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of A Right-Turn Deceleration Lane On S.R.
(State Road) 434 Eastbound At Hayes Road.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009-36 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of A Right-Turn Deceleration Lane On S.R.
(State Road) 434 Eastbound At Vistawilla Drive.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009-37 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of Intersection Safety Improvements On S.R.
(State Road) 419 At Wade Street.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 4, 2009 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
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No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 11, 2009 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [REST OF CONSENT AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presenting A Proclamation Recognizing Code Enforcement Officer Week.
Mayor Bush with the assistance of Manager Smith and Chief Brunelle presented a
Proclamation to the City's Code Enforcement Staff.
Members of the Code Enforcement Board that were in attendance were also recognized.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Community Development Department
Presentation By Ms. Chris Blackwell, PTA (Parent Teacher Association) President
Of Indian Trails Middle School To Discuss LED School Suns.
Ms. Chris Blackwell with Indian Trails Middle School addressed the City Commission.
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Discussion.
Manager Smith explained, "Our current Code would not allow signs of this type -the
blinking or non-blinking, static versus non-static, size of the letters, those would all be R
things that you could discuss at the time that you decide if you're going to change your °°°"'
Code to allow these type signs."
With further discussion, Ms. Blackwell stated, "Our Fiscal Year ends June 30~' and I
would appreciate it if there would be some decision made before that time, so that we
could actually do it within this year."
Commissioner Rick Brown asked why we can't give a Waiver to schools?
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese suggested, "Let Staff come back and propose
something that is, in the overall context of the City, gets the job done. That would be my
recommendation. But a 6/30/09 deadline, I don't see as happening because it has to go to
the Land Planning Agency for review, and come to the Commission for two (2)
Hearings."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese noted, "Staff is examining the possibility of LED
(Light Emitting Diode) or some electronic sign outside of City Hall; and so that is already
in the works." Attorney Garganese added, "I am not saying you can't restrict it solely to
governmental entities. That's an issue we would have to examine in the context of
government speech doctrine. We'll take a look at that."
Mayor Bush said, "I think what you could do Chris (Blackwell) in the interim though is
work with Staff on this, because they will be writing up the change in the Code that will
come back to the Commission; so, you would have a good idea, how it is going to go."
Ms. Blackwell responded, "Okay." Mayor Bush said to Manager Smith, "Does that
sound okay to you?"
Manager Smith said, "Absolutely, Mayor. And, Chris (Blackwell), again, we'll work
with you. It is just - we have to be diligent about this process for the good of everyone."
Further comments.
Manager Smith said, "Mayor, I was just going to remind the Commission that we are
currently pursuing this as part of bringing back a Budget item for you on a potential sign
out in front of City Hall. If it's acceptable to the Commission, we'll wrap that all into
one package." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." No objections were voiced.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese mentioned that in the Orlando Business Journal, "Winter Springs
Bond Rating was upgraded to AA- from A+, based on continued strong debt service
coverage provided by pledge revenues, no further plans to leverage the security and
strength of the City's financial position."
Brief discussion followed on Jesup's Reserve.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, MMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Brief comments were noted by Deputy Mayor Krebs.
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush noted that the City of Winter Springs again won the Traveling Trophy for
attendance at the Tri-County League of Cities Meeting last week.
Discussion followed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department about an email and photographs were shown of flooding at 109 Lido Road.
With further comments, Mayor Bush said to Mr. Fields, "I think you talking to him is
probably the best idea. You do a good job at that."
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REPORTS
405. Commission Seat One -Jean
Brief comments.
Commissioner Jean Hovey thanked "Parks and Rec[reation] and Chuck (Pula) and his
group -after spending four (4) months plus at Central Winds Park, it is a great park and I
know that the people that were there -thanks for the recycle bins. I know that people
used them and we appreciate all that you guys do because it is a great place to play
baseball."
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown said to Manager Smith, "I got a couple of comments this week
from the Website and about the changes that have been made. Very positive. Thank
you." Manager Smith added, "Thanks to Joanne (Dalka, Director, Information Services
Department) and her staff; Chris (Edwards, Web, Multimedia Technician, Information
Services Department) and everyone for their efforts."
Secondly, Commissioner Brown commented to Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA,
Senior Planner, Community Development Department on the LYNX bus stops.
Tape I/Side B
Ms. Sahlstrom said to Commissioner Brown, "I can email you a copy of it, if you'd
like?" Commissioner Brown responded, "That would be great." Manager Smith said to
Ms. Sahlstrom, "Could you just email all the Commissioners?"
Thirdly, Commissioner Brown commented on meeting conflicts.
Lastly, Commissioner Brown said to Mr. Fields, "Thank you very much for following up
on the issue in the [Tuscawilla] Trails" -related to Pawnee Trail. Commissioner Brown
added, "That was great information you gave him. Thank you."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Three -Gary Bonner
Commissioner Gary Bonner commented on City Commission Meeting conflicts this
month; and a meeting he was attending on June 160i with Staff at the Heritage Park
Homeowner's Association Meeting.
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Brief comments.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT HARRY ARTHUR BE
APPOINTED TO FILL THE VACANCY ON THE OAK FOREST WALL AND
BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT [ADVISORY COMMITTEE]." MOTION BY "`"°"'~
COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Commissioner Bonner commented on Economic Development and Seminole
Economic Enhancement Districts (SEED).
Discussion.
"I MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE MANAGER TO INITIATE CREATION
OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EACH OF THE THREE (3)
SEMINOLE ECONOMIC ENHANCEMENT DISTRICTS (SEED), MEANING
THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT; THE (VILLAGE]-WALK DISTRICT; AND
THE GREENEWAY INTERCHANGE DISTRICT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Next, discussion followed on the proposed Town Parke Apartment project and potential
reduced tax revenues and Commissioner Bonner stated, "The Manager has learned that
these units will pay taxes based on their revenue or rental rate to say it another way, not
on their property value."
Further discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "Because it was an Application that was presented, it would be
inappropriate for the Commission to rescind or modify the previous decision on that
Application, without affording the Applicant the opportunity to come before you, like
they did last time, when you reconsidered it. That was the comment. So, it would be
inappropriate to rescind it; and as Commissioner Bonner is alluding to, from a general
Policy perspective, there are opportunities for the Commission to set certain Policy. How
that plays out with that specific Application, retroactively, is another issue, but
perspectively, you have a couple of opportunities before you to consider Policy."
Much discussion.
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Commissioner Brown mentioned that he thought that the City Manager did not have
enough information to go forward with an Economic Development Plan, and asked if this
should come back as a Workshop?
Attorney Garganese remarked, "You have to provide some accommodation for all types ~~
of housing within the City and you are going to be getting into the EAR (Evaluation and
Appraisal Report) process and that is why I said, you need to take a real good look at
what you're getting ready to do in establishing housing Policy because that is going to be
a Policy of the City."
Tape 2/Side A
Further discussion.
Manager Smith added, "Should we be successful in our joint partnership with Oviedo on
Economic Development or whatever mechanism we utilize to procure an Economic
Development person, that will be on their work program."
Discussion.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner Sally McGinnis commented on LYNX.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that she thought the Joint Meeting with the
City of Oviedo went well.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL "PUBLIC INPUT"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
REPORTS
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned that he had been asked to declare a day in honor of a local
business owner and thought the City Commission should approve such an action. Mayor
Bush added, "If there is no objection, we will go ahead and do something, it just won't be
a day listed for that person."
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A Certificate of Recognition was suggested and Mayor Bush added, "If there is no
objection to that, then that is the way we will handle this one." Deputy Mayor Krebs
stated, "No objection." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I agree with you."
Mayor Bush said to the City Clerk, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), will you follow up on that
for me, and I will be glad to go present it and read it and so forth?" City Clerk Lorenzo-
Luaces nodded in agreement.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Leah Weisman, 113 Brookshire Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on behalf of
the Friends of Leash Optional Parks and commented on their concern with the status of
the Dog Park and a matching Grant. Ms. Weisman suggested that if the City was not
going to go through with the Grant, that they would like their monies back.
Mayor Bush asked Manager Smith, "Is this going to be discussed in our Budget
meeting?" Manager Smith answered, "Absolutely."
Ms. Weisman, "The question is, since you signed the Grant, you can un-sign it? Because
it was a signed agreement, I thought." Manager Smith stated, "Yes." Ms. Weisman
added, "If it's really not considered to be going on, our group would rather have our
money back and donate it to another charity -although we -didn't want to do that."
Further comments followed with Mr. Pula who said, "I would really like a decision to be
made this summer, whether to proceed with the project?"
Mayor Bush then asked, "Will this be something we discuss tomorrow night or just
further down the road? Manager Smith responded, "I had not intended to discuss it
tomorrow night, Mayor. I intended to discuss it further down the road." Mayor Bush
then said to Manager Smith, "Would you let Leah (Weisman) know when we are going
to bring that up in our Workshop?" Manager Smith stated, "Sure."
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested to Manager Smith, "There may be some other
opportunities for -the Dog Park." Deputy Mayor Krebs added that she would speak with
the City Manager about this.
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Mr. Arsenio Calle, 110 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
subsidizing and being fair to all.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
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500. Community Development Department
Presents A Resolution (Resolution No. [Number] 2009-34) To The Commission To
Vacate And Abandon A Portion Of A Utility Easement On A Residential Lot At
1137 Dappled Elm Lane, Pursuant To The Provisions Of Section 17-27. Of The City
Code.
Attorney Garganese read Resolution 2009-34 by "Title".
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department addressed
the City Commission on this project.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider
Recommendations From The Local Planning Agency On Amendments To The
Adopted Future Land Use Map And To The Text Of The Comprehensive Plan
Based On The City's Adopted Evaluation And Appraisal Report And To Forward
The Proposed Amendments To The Florida Department Of Community Affairs As
Included In Ordinance 2009-08.
"MOVE TO READ BY `TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR HI2EBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
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COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager Smith left the Commission Chambers at 7: 07 p. m.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom noted, "We have a Citizen Courtesy Information List, if anybody in the
public wanted to receive information from the State, please fill out this form; it's out
there in the lobby. We're just required to make that Notice available to you."
Further comments were made by Ms. Sahlstrom.
With discussion, Commissioner Bonner suggested, "Is there a way to craft the language
in such a way so that it is flexible to come into Compliance with future plans. So, if we
decide that the Town Center District needs percentage `a', and we decide that the
SeminoleWAY District needs percentage `b', we can actually allow the Comprehensive
Plan to flex to those future decisions."
Attorney Garganese explained, "From that perspective yes -you can establish policies in
the Comprehensive Plan that require the City to do something else, like establish a Plan
and that plan control is under the Comprehensive Plan. So, basically, you are directing
that something else be done that will implement Policy of the Comprehensive Plan. That
can be done - in terms of what you are talking about, what's the most effective of
workforce housing or affordable housing program for the City of Winter Springs?"
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner noted, "Under your guidance, if we could Amend this
language so that it would be flexible for the by-product of future planning efforts?"
Attorney Garganese mentioned he would have to review this in consideration of the other
Policies.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke as a resident
and mentioned that in the current Comprehensive Plan, is language that states,
"Discourage the concentration of affordable housing".
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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Commissioner Brown asked if verticality issues had been addressed? Ms. Sahlstrom
stated, "We do have a cap in the Town Center of -six (6) stories." Commissioner Brown
added, "We may want to look at that as well."
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"I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO -JUNE 8Tx,
(2009)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH REFERENCED TO MR. LACEY'S COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTED, "YOU MIGHT WANT TO DEFINE WHAT CONCENTRATION
MEANS. WHAT CONSTITUTES A `CONCENTRATION'." MAYOR BUSH
ADDED, "MAYBE SOME KIND OF A DEFINITION OF `CONCENTRATION'."
MAYOR BUSH THEN REFERENCED, 1.3.8:, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A
`WIDE VARIETY'?" FURTHERMORE, MAYOR BUSH STATED, "YOU NEED
TO QUANTIFY WHAT A `WIDE VARIETY' MEANS."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE MENTIONED, "YOU WANT MORE SPECIFICITY
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
CONTROLS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY, IF THERE ARE ANY
OTHER CONFLICTING PLANS."
CONTINUING, ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "WE'LL GO BACK AND
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT
REGARDING WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CONCENTRATION;
DISCOURAGING CONCENTRATION, WHICH IS ALSO - A PROVISION IN
THE STATE STATUTE, THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM. IT'S
LOOKING FOR MORE OF AN INTEGRATED APPROACH; BUT, MAYBE WE
NEED TO HONE IN ON THAT ISSUE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BRING
SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMISSION."
MAYOR BUSH THEN ASKED, "ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OTHER THAN THE ONE WE BROUGHT UP?"
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS REMARKED, "NO." DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS
STATED, "NO." NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at 7:22 p. m.
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PUBLIC FIEARINGS
502. Office Of The City Attorney And Community Development Department
Request The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance No. (Number) 2009-03, Amending Chapters 16 And 20 Of The City
Code, As They Relate To The Signage.
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a `Motion' to read by `Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at 7.•23 p. m.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Mayor Bush opened Public Hearing on this Agenda Item.
Ms. Laura Rodziwicz, Governmental Affairs Coordinator, Orlando Regional Realtors
Association, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: thanked the City Commission for their
consideration.
Mayor Bush closed Public Hearing on this Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO SECOND READING."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush mentioned an upcoming Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association Meeting on
June 11, 2009 and that they wanted to discuss the Town Parke apartments project. With
discussion on Sunshine Law issues, it was suggested that Ms. Pam Carroll, Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association President could address this issue for her membership.
Mayor Bush said the City would be in touch with Ms. Carroll.
Note: Due to technical d~culties with Tape 2/Side B, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 3/Side A
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Information Services Department
Requests Direction From The Commission Regarding A Request From Florida By
Day & Night To Use The City Seal On Their Website.
Mr. Edwards addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown remarked, "I think it is a great argument toward having a logo, that
we can use for marketing purposes..." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "...Absolutely...."
Commissioner Brown continued, "...As opposed to using our -Seal."
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Providing The Commission With The City's Fiscal Year 2009 2"d Quarter Financial
Report.
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Manager Smith explained, "My ultimate goal would be to have this item be on ~
Informational each time" and noted that future Reports would include more information.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush then said, "So, it will be under Informational in the future. Is that okay with
the Commission?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." No objections were voiced.
Commissioner Brown added, "Great job!"
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department And Parks And Recreation
Department
Wish To Provide The City Commission A Proposal For Modifications To The
Existing Farmer's Market And Procedures For The Continued Operation Of The
Market.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "I really would like to see a [Business] Plan.
With further comments, on the issue of restrooms, Mr. Stevenson noted, "One of the
criteria and one of the recommendations for locating it in front of City Hall -was to
allow access to our two (2) rest rooms in City Hall."
Much discussion ensued, including discussion on craft items.
Ms. Anjie Federici, 752 Night Owl Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this issue, and stated, "I have not ever had air-brushed t-shirts or
anything like that at a Farmer's Market. Flea Market items need to stay at the Flea
Market. We wouldn't have anything like that at a Farmer's Market. We do have a lady
that does custom sewing. She really doesn't make clothing, she'll make like the aprons,
especially the sports aprons that say `Miami Dolphins', or the `Cowboys' or whatever;
and she'll do a couple of things like that. She makes like the card-holders for the people
who play cards and she does knitting and sewing and I have had people that knit sweaters
that come out there." Ms. Federici added, "No tattoos - no hubcaps."
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Commissioner McGinnis asked, "Is there an evaluation period built into this at some
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Manager Smith also noted, "A Termination clause." Mr. Stevenson added, "I would
think that would be part of the Contract that we would be looking at. Yes." ~~
Discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "I would certainly think Commissioner, that part of the Marketing
Plan and the Business Plan is going to be a break-even establishment."
Additionally, Mr. Stevenson stated, "We would certainly agree with the Commission that
during this period of time, that we would need to establish a fairly detailed Business
Plan." On the issue of a Business Plan, Mr. Stevenson noted, "I would certainly think
that would be something we would look at and want to have in place prior to this move to
our permanent location, essentially the first Saturday in October."
Further discussion followed on other Farmer's Markets and possible liability situations
such as health and food problems.
Mr. Stevenson stated, "Until said time as they move onto City property, my
understanding is you would retain your current contractual insurance coverage with the
Vendors, with the Town Center Merchants Association. When they come to the City, I
believe it would go under our liability insurance and of course, we're requesting any food
Vendor, not only have their BTR (Business Tax Receipt) from the County, but they have
all of the proper State requirements and local requirements for food vending."
Commissioner McGinnis asked, "You will check those every..." Ms. Federici said,
"...Absolutely."
Attorney Garganese remarked, "For City events, like 4th of July event, we have created a
Vendor Contract Agreement, where they're required to sign it, indemnify, hold the City
harmless, any liability related to their services. We probably should do the same thing
for these Vendors as well, under this new approach." Commissioner McGinnis
commented, "I would recommend that." No objections were voiced.
Further comments followed on hours for the Market Manager.
Commissioner Hovey said, "The Banners are all on the eastern side of [State Road] 434 -
is there any way we could put Banners on that side of [State Road] 434 -maybe at
Edgemon (Avenue) or Sheoah (Boulevard)?"
Manager Smith asked where the Banner locations were? Mr. Stevenson answered, "The
Banner locations are along [State Road] 434, Tuskawilla Road, Doran Drive, Central
Winds Boulevard, and Vistawilla Drive."
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Mr. Stevenson noted, "One of the things we began to talk about is that some point in time
in the future, we're going to have a Banner designed for Village Walk."
Discussion.
Again, on the issue of Banners, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "You have to include the
west side too." No objections were noted, and Mayor Bush remarked, "We have got that
one covered."
Additional discussion ensued on who should run the Farmer's Market, and partnerships.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COME BACK TO US AT
SUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE A BUSINESS PLAN THAT SHOWS
IT GOING TO A BREAK-EVEN AND THEN INTO A PROFITABLE
SITUATION; A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT OR A PERFORMANCE
CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT WITH MS. FEDERICI, THAT MEASURES
SUCCESS AND PERFORMANCE TOWARD THOSE GOALS OF MAKING IT A
BREAK-EVEN AND A PROFIT CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER SMITH ADDED, "THE BANNERS -THEY WILL BE READ
THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR MAXIMUM UTILIZATION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 3/Side B
REGULAR
603. Police Department
Requesting The City Commission To Review And Provide Direction For The Use Of
Golf Carts On Public Roadways In The City Of Winter Springs.
Chief Brunelle introduced this Agenda Item.
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Chief Brunelle said, "I would also like to give you an idea of what we would like to see
in that Ordinance and what we would bring forward to you and also ask for any :,
suggestions; so, that we can add your recommendations for that, but `Option 2', where it ~~ ~~~~~~~
says to prepare an Ordinance to allow for the operation. ~°
One of the things that we would ask that you consider would be that and we'll bring that
forward would be they would be seventeen (17) years of age for a minimum age; that
they have a valid driver's license; we will consider or allow fifteen (15) or sixteen (16)
year olds operating a golf cart as long as they have a learner's permit and have someone
that is twenty-one (21) years of age in the seat next to them, operating it and no one by
themselves; just as long as they have some adult supervision.
And the reason for that was seventeen (17) years of age, at least they've had a year of
operating a vehicle by themselves. By State Statute they can at sixteen (16) drive a
vehicle by themselves because they have done it for a year, and we don't have
inexperienced youth or some youth that might not want to pay attention to the rules out
there operating a golf cart in our neighborhoods.
A few of the other suggestions that will come forward will be dawn to dusk -regulation;
and some type of light package on the golf cart which would consist of blinkers, brake
lights, headlights, and definitely a horn or possibly day-time running lights; and this may
be some things that you've already all thought of. But also some type of a permitting
inspection, on a yearly basis -where the Police Department would be responsible for
checking tires, brakes, horns, lights, that the sticker is updated; and we've come up with a
system that we think will allow us to track the permitting numbers that we may create on
these stickers; and there can be a Fee for that. There doesn't have to be a Fee for it but
most of what we're seeing across the State is there is a Fee, anywhere from five (5) to
twenty-five dollars ($25.00) for a yearly inspection on your golf cart that would pay for
the Officer's time to do it or whoever is going to do it; plus the cost of the sticker - to
recoup the costs.
And also, we're also recommending that there has to be some type of enforcement for
violating any of the Ordinances - so, we'd also like to put an Enforcement Policy in that
Ordinance as well. That would be `Option 2'."
Chief Brunelle noted, "City-wide." Furthermore, Chief Brunelle explained, "It would be
for the City streets and the City streets only. You can't drive them on sidewalks; you
can't have them on the Rails-to-Trails -you can't have it on Tuskawilla Road. So, it is
only the interconnecting streets that are thirty (30) miles and below. Even State Statute
does that. You can make it more strict if you want to, but I would suggest you keep
within the thirty (30) miles an hour."
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Commissioner Brown commented, "I agree with everything that you listed. What about
insurance? No motor vehicles, other than golf carts I believe are allowed on public roads
without having some kind of liability insurance." Chief Brunelle noted, "That is .:~,~
something that you could include in the Ordinance." Commissioner Brown stated, "I `°~~~
would like to see that."
Commissioner Bonner said, "My only question was really the seventeen (17) years old,
when at sixteen (16), you can be a licensed driver independently operating a motor
vehicle on these exact same streets."
Attorney Garganese said, "I think we need to take a look at the issue that Commissioner
Bonner brought up regarding whether that can be imposed; if a sixteen (16) year old
actually has a driver's license" and referenced wording in the Florida Statutes.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Maybe giving abooklet - or some kind of a book
to people who apply for this designation, that spells all this out. Revocation of license;
stipulation; the roadways that are allowed..." Mayor Bush recommended, "...A copy of
the Ordinance." Additionally, Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Everything should
be spelled out in writing and given to them and then there are no excuses."
Chief Brunelle mentioned that Captain Tolleson, "Already began the stages of putting
together a brochure that we're going to hand out and also put on our Website, explaining
all of these procedures and Policies that would be put into place."
Discussion followed on the preference for the higher age.
Commissioner Brown noted, "The extra time on the road is critical, because -these
vehicles have a much slower speed; so, I think the judgment of distance, the judgment of
interaction of other motor vehicles. You don't have the escape route you have in an
automobile; it has a higher level of tip-over. I think all these things go into having a
higher understanding of the road and motor vehicle interaction."
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH `Option 2'-
WITH THE ITEMS THAT THE CHIEF LISTED. IN ADDITION, WITH
LOOKING AT THE LEGALITY OF INCREASING THE AGE TO SEVENTEEN
(17), AND ALSO WITH ADDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR INSURANCE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE ~~
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Consider Approval Of The Torcaso Park
Area Master Plan And Provide Further Direction As Needed.
Mr. Pula presented an overview of the Torcaso Park Master Plan.
Discussion.
Furthermore, Mr. Pula explained, "This is a Master Plan - a Master Plan is a guideline
for the future. It provides you a direction. You can always change it if something else
comes up, but it's where you want to go and look."
Commissioner Brown said "This is incredible. It is a beautiful concept."
With further comments, Commissioner Brown asked about the last line in item 2),
`...Tortoise protection'. What does that mean? How do you protect Tortoises by
erecting a Pavilion?"
Mr. Pula answered, "That Tortoise protection should not be in there. That new Pavilion
is shown on uplands, and the purpose of that is for the view of the ball fields across the
street."
The process and potential Grants was discussed next.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis complimented the project and suggested, "One thing I think we
need to start real soon is the pond edge." Commissioner McGinnis added, "This just fits
the bill; this is such a beautiful long range plan."
Commissioner Hovey asked if Mr. Pula had considered Federal Stimulus Funds and a
Non-Profit Family Services Center. Mr. Pula said he had not yet.
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
605. Police Department
Requests To Discuss With The Commission How A Community Can Contract For
City Services Within A Neighborhood That Has Chosen To Erect Gates At Their
Entrances Or Exits.
Chief Brunelle began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese explained, "With respect to private gated communities, the City can
enforce traffic laws within those gated communities provided there was a written
Agreement with that community; so, there would have to be an Agreement between the
HOA (Homeowner's Association) and the City of Winter Springs that lays out what the -
Law Enforcement services the City will be providing within that community."
Discussion followed on compensation issues and Law Enforcement services.
Tape 4/Side A
Further discussion continued.
Commissioner Brown commented for the Record about his community.
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ENTER
INTO A CONTRACT AND THAT WE CHARGE A DOLLAR ($1.00) PER YEAR
AND RE-EVALUATE THIS TWO (2) YEARS FROM NOW AND SEE WHERE
WE ARE AT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID, "THERE IS NO VARIANCE IN THESE
AGREEMENTS RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AGREEMENT BE CONSISTENT FOR ALL
COMMUNITIES, AND THEY EITHER OPT IN OR OPT OUT."
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED, WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAFT AN
AGREEMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT THE
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CHIEF IS COMFORTABLE WITH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE ~;,t,'
STREETLIGHT AGREEMENTS. WE HAVE ONE (1) FORM, THIS IS IT. YOU ~~
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT."
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "AND THEY KNOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO
ENFORCE COVENANTS." COMMISSIONER KREBS REM_ARK_F.D, "RIGHT."
COMISSIONER HOVEY ADDED, "NO COVENANTS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
606. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission Review Its Current Strategy For Procuring A
Permanent City Manager.
Mayor Bush began the discussion on this issue.
Deputy Mayor Krebs distributed some documents to everyone on the dais and spoke on
the many projects that Manager Smith has been and is working on, and his qualifications.
Deputy Mayor Krebs also noted, "I actually wrote my candidate profile. I don't know if
-anybody has taken the time to do that; I will just go over what mine was and this was
the order that I thought was really important to me and that was - I wanted somebody
who was experienced in Finance and Budgeting. Education was important to me.
Interworking relationships within the City Hall and Police Department was really
important to me. Community relationships was really important to me as well; and then
communication."
Continuing, Deputy Mayor Krebs then said, "Why would I want Kevin (Smith)? Well,
he has knowledge and history of Winter Springs and this Commission and previous
Commission's. He has fifteen (15) years of related experience in a full service City. By
the way, I interviewed Kevin (Smith), as well as I did some of you out there and
employees and Department Heads."
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With further comments, Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "He possesses an MBA (Masters in
Business Administration); he possesses a strong financial and budgeting background
which we really need; and I wrote down here that I have interviewed several Department
Heads and employees as to relationships and communication needs with Kevin (Smith). I
have had no negative feedback whatsoever.
In fact, I have had requests to keep him in his current position as he is doing such a great
job. He has been able to bring together people and bring out from those people some of
their best work. Employees feel that they are part of a team and that their thoughts and
suggestions really do count. We have all seen that. We have all seen a rejuvenation here;
I mean if we are paying attention, we have seen it.
Community residents have praised Kevin (Smith) before he was City Manager, and after.
As a matter of fact, I have received numerous compliments from the CALNO (Council of
Local Governments in Seminole County) cities which are the seven (7) cities in Seminole
[County]; Tri-County [League ofJ Cities regarding his willingness to help, answer
questions, and provide any information he has available. It has been stated that he is very
easy to work with.
As for communication, Kevin (Smith) has been presenting information to this
Commission for at least two (2) years and I personally have been provided concise,
accurate, easy to understand data as part of my decision- making process."
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Krebs explained, "I know that the 180 days is not up but I
also know that the last time we spoke, we discussed that the rules had changed, and they
have; and if you really look at some of that stuff I passed out, you will see what we are
asking Kevin (Smith) to do."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Krebs commented, "I would really like you guys to say
whether you feel the same way, whether you see, whether you have done that evaluation
process that I have gone through already, in the person that I believe really deserves this
position."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I agree with you. We have worked with Kevin
(Smith)."
Commissioner Brown noted, "I agree with you one hundred and fifty (150%) percent if
that is possible. Kevin (Smith) has been the person that I have gone to since 2006 for
straight answers and even when that was the only place that true answers were coming
from; I have always found them to be true and accurate. I have respected Kevin (Smith)
from that time up through this time."
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Next, Commissioner Hovey remarked, "I agree with Commissioner Brown and
Commissioner Krebs and I think we all know what we want and what we don't want and `~~'
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I think Kevin (Smith) meets or exceeds all of that criteria. We have also had a lot of ~ ~'"
changes in the City in the last six (6) months and I think in order to continue to move our .~
City forward on those good changes that we have had, we need to offer Kevin (Smith) the i
City Manager job on a permanent basis."
Commissioner McGinnis said next, "In reality, I think we have already made that
transition in our minds anyway..." Commissioner Brown said, "...Absolutely..."
Commissioner McGinnis continued, "... We have accepted the fact that Kevin (Smith) is
our City Manager and so, we might as well agree and let us formalize it and move
forward."
Manager Smith spoke as the Commission's Human Resources Director and commented
on the process to hire a City Manager; and suggested a profile be considered.
Then, Manager Smith said to the City Commission, "I cannot even begin to formulate in
words -how honored I am to hear you talk about me in this way and to say these things
about me."
Commissioner Bonner commented, "I too have had nothing but a great experience thus
far, in all my business dealings with Kevin Smith as Interim City Manager."
Commissioner Bonner then suggested that a profile and search and selection process
should follow.
With additional comments, Commissioner Brown stated, "I have had a longer period of
time to work with Kevin (Smith). He has I think, been doing large facets of this job for
years now. He has proven himself not only competent; he has proven himself effective;
and he has proven himself honest and trustworthy; of really high integrity; of high ethical
standing, and I think for myself, if I was to design, not having been in this position for an
extremely long time, if I was to design the type of individual I would want to see as Chief
Administrator of our City, especially after having worked - with a couple of them and
now with Kevin (Smith), I think the criteria that I would draft is going to mimic what I
have seen for the past couple of years."
Furthermore, Commissioner Brown remarked, "I think his past history; his commitment
to the City, his commitment to this Commission, and the way in which he has
professionally executed his job, I think speaks for itself."
Mayor Bush added, "He gets along with all of you, and that is an unusual thing." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "You are right, he does."
Commissioner Hovey said next, "I think Kevin Smith is the right person for the job and I
don't think we need to spend money and time to go out and look for someone who we
already know - I think we already know will do the job and is what we want."
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Further comments followed on a search and selection process and related decisions.
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, you yourselves know the difference, you can feel it. ~'- "'
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And you know, the Staff feels it - it is very hard to quantify. I mean it really is -and the ~ ,
citizens have felt it. The County Manager has mentioned it to me. I mean there is a lot of ~~ ;
confirmation that Kevin (Smith) is the right man for the job."
"I THINK THAT I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY WHEN I SAY THAT I MAKE A
MOTION TO HIRE KEVIN SMITH - AS OUR PERMANENT CITY MANAGER,
A CONTRACT TO BE DRAWN UP BY ANTHONY (GARGANESE) AND
WORKED OUT -EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Brown said, "Welcome Home." Deputy Mayor Krebs and Commissioner
Bonner asked, "Do you accept?" Mayor Bush added, `He doesn't have any choice, he
has to accept." Mayor Bush then stated, "Congratulations Kevin (Smith) - I think you
are the right man for the job! And you have proven yourself. We don't have to interview
four (4) or five (5) other people to know that you are the right guy -believe me." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "We don't."
Mayor Bush asked the City Commission, "Would you like to have a formal reception to
meet our new City Manager and his family?" Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes." No
objections were noted. Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Would you
coordinate this with Kevin (Smith) because his family has got to be involved in this and
some of the Commissioners are going to be out of town and so forth and so on. Can you
handle that?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces said "Yes" and asked if they had preference for
the location? Manager Smith stated, "I think we can work it out."
Mayor Bush added, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), you and Kevin (Smith) work that out -
the main thing is that we want the people to be able to attend so we need to have it at the
time the Commissioners can all be in attendance and give it time to get it advertised so
people know." Again, Mayor Bush said, "Congratulations Kevin (Smith)!"
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 9:49 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2009 Regulaz City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Tuesday, May 26, 2009 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance followed a moment of silence.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding The July 4 Celebration Of
Freedom/50 Anniversary.
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs said, "Good job, Chuck (Pula, Director, Parks and
Recreation Department). Good job, Kevin (L. Smith, City Manager). I know that it has
been really difficult to pull together that much money in such a short period of time, is
phenomenal, so thank you to your team Kevin (Smith), Chuck (Pula)."
Further discussion followed with Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle on coolers.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Community Development Department
Providing Information To The City Commission Detailing The Area ID Numbers
For The Three (3) Seminole Economic Enhancement Districts (SEED) Brownfield
Area Designations That Were Approved By The Commission In August, 2008.
Those Areas Are The Town Center, GreeneWay Interchange, And Village Walk
SEED (Seminole Economic Enhancement District)/Brownfield Areas.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Police Department
Requesting Commission Approval For Expenditure Of Funds To Purchase Two
Replacement Vehicles For The Police Department Out Of The Supplemental
Appropriation General Fund Reserve Funds.
Discussion.
Manager Smith spoke for the Record and explained, "Utilizing State Contract, or the
Florida Sheriffs Association contract is a Bid process. They have gone through the Bid
process back in the summer of last year, and doing so, it just alleviates us incurring the
cost to go through it."
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"MOTION THAT WE EMPOWER THE MANAGER AND THE CHIEF TO GO
OUTSIDE OF THE STANDARD CONTRACT TO GET A BETTER VALUE ON
TWO (2) REPLACEMENT VEHICLES FOR THE CITY." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
201. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009 -35 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of A Right -Turn Deceleration Lane On S.R.
(State Road) 434 Eastbound At Hayes Road.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009 -36 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of A Right -Turn Deceleration Lane On S.R.
(State Road) 434 Eastbound At Vistawilla Drive.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2009 -37 And
Enter Into A Local Agency Program Agreement With The Florida Department Of
Transportation For Construction Of Intersection Safety Improvements On S.R.
(State Road) 419 At Wade Street.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 4, 2009 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 11, 2009 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [REST OF CONSENT AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presenting A Proclamation Recognizing Code Enforcement Officer Week.
Mayor Bush with the assistance of Manager Smith and Chief Brunelle presented a
Proclamation to the City's Code Enforcement Staff.
Members of the Code Enforcement Board that were in attendance were also recognized.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Community Development Department
Presentation By Ms. Chris Blackwell, PTA (Parent Teacher Association) President
Of Indian Trails Middle School To Discuss LED School Signs.
Ms. Chris Blackwell with Indian Trails Middle School addressed the City Commission.
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Discussion.
Manager Smith explained, "Our current Code would not allow signs of this type the
blinking or non blinking, static versus non static, size of the letters, those would all be
things that you could discuss at the time that you decide if you're going to change your
Code to allow these type signs."
With further discussion, Ms. Blackwell stated, "Our Fiscal Year ends June 30 and I
would appreciate it if there would be some decision made before that time, so that we
could actually do it within this year."
Commissioner Rick Brown asked why we can't give a Waiver to schools?
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese suggested, "Let Staff come back and propose
something that is, in the overall context of the City, gets the job done. That would be my
recommendation. But a 6/30/09 deadline, I don't see as happening because it has to go to
the Land Planning Agency for review, and come to the Commission for two (2)
Hearings."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese noted, "Staff is examining the possibility of LED
(Light Emitting Diode) or some electronic sign outside of City Hall; and so that is already
in the works." Attorney Garganese added, "I am not saying you can't restrict it solely to
governmental entities. That's an issue we would have to examine in the context of
government speech doctrine. We'll take a look at that."
Mayor Bush said, "I think what you could do Chris (Blackwell) in the interim though is
work with Staff on this, because they will be writing up the change in the Code that will
come back to the Commission; so, you would have a good idea, how it is going to go."
Ms. Blackwell responded, "Okay." Mayor Bush said to Manager Smith, "Does that
sound okay to you
Manager Smith said, "Absolutely, Mayor. And, Chris (Blackwell), again, we'll work
with you. It is just we have to be diligent about this process for the good of everyone."
Further comments.
Manager Smith said, "Mayor, I was just going to remind the Commission that we are
currently pursuing this as part of bringing back a Budget item for you on a potential sign
out in front of City Hall. If it's acceptable to the Commission, we'll wrap that all into
one package." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." No objections were voiced.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese mentioned that in the Orlando Business Journal, "Winter Springs
Bond Rating was upgraded to AA- from A based on continued strong debt service
coverage provided by pledge revenues, no further plans to leverage the security and
strength of the City's financial position."
Brief discussion followed on Jesup's Reserve.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager Kevin L. Smith
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo Luaces, MMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs
Brief comments were noted by Deputy Mayor Krebs.
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor John F. Bush
Mayor Bush noted that the City of Winter Springs again won the Traveling Trophy for
attendance at the Tri- County League of Cities Meeting last week.
Discussion followed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department about an email and photographs were shown of flooding at 109 Lido Road.
With further comments, Mayor Bush said to Mr. Fields, "I think you talking to him is
probably the best idea. You do a good job at that."
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REPORTS
405. Commission Seat One Jean Hovey
Brief comments.
Commissioner Jean Hovey thanked "Parks and Rec[reation] and Chuck (Pula) and his
group after spending four (4) months plus at Central Winds Park, it is a great park and I
know that the people that were there thanks for the recycle bins. I know that people
used them and we appreciate all that you guys do because it is a great place to play
baseball."
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Two Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown said to Manager Smith, "I got a couple of comments this week
from the Website and about the changes that have been made. Very positive. Thank
you." Manager Smith added, "Thanks to Joanne (Dalka, Director, Information Services
Department) and her staff; Chris (Edwards, Web, Multimedia Technician, Information
Services Department) and everyone for their efforts."
Secondly, Commissioner Brown commented to Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA,
Senior Planner, Community Development Department on the LYNX bus stops.
Tape 1 /Side B
Ms. Sahlstrom said to Commissioner Brown, "I can email you a copy of it, if you'd
like Commissioner Brown responded, "That would be great." Manager Smith said to
Ms. Sahlstrom, "Could you just email all the Commissioners
Thirdly, Commissioner Brown commented on meeting conflicts.
Lastly, Commissioner Brown said to Mr. Fields, "Thank you very much for following up
on the issue in the [Tuscawilla] Trails" related to Pawnee Trail. Commissioner Brown
added, "That was great information you gave him. Thank you."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Three Gary Bonner
Commissioner Gary Bonner commented on City Commission Meeting conflicts this
month; and a meeting he was attending on June 16 with Staff at the Heritage Park
Homeowner's Association Meeting.
Brief comments.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT HARRY ARTHUR BE
APPOINTED TO FILL THE VACANCY ON THE OAK FOREST WALL AND
BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT [ADVISORY COMMITTEE]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Commissioner Bonner commented on Economic Development and Seminole
Economic Enhancement Districts (SEED).
Discussion.
"I MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE MANAGER TO INITIATE CREATION
OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EACH OF THE THREE (3)
SEMINOLE ECONOMIC ENHANCEMENT DISTRICTS (SEED), MEANING
THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT; THE [VILLAGE] -WALK DISTRICT; AND
THE GREENEWAY INTERCHANGE DISTRICT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Next, discussion followed on the proposed Town Parke Apartment project and potential
reduced tax revenues and Commissioner Bonner stated, "The Manager has learned that
these units will pay taxes based on their revenue or rental rate to say it another way, not
on their property value."
Further discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "Because it was an Application that was presented, it would be
inappropriate for the Commission to rescind or modify the previous decision on that
Application, without affording the Applicant the opportunity to come before you, like
they did last time, when you reconsidered it. That was the comment. So, it would be
inappropriate to rescind it; and as Commissioner Bonner is alluding to, from a general
Policy perspective, there are opportunities for the Commission to set certain Policy. How
that plays out with that specific Application, retroactively, is another issue, but
perspectively, you have a couple of opportunities before you to consider Policy."
Much discussion.
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Commissioner Brown mentioned that he thought that the City Manager did not have
enough information to go forward with an Economic Development Plan, and asked if this
should come back as a Workshop?
Attorney Garganese remarked, "You have to provide some accommodation for all types
of housing within the City and you are going to be getting into the EAR (Evaluation and
Appraisal Report) process and that is why I said, you need to take a real good look at
what you're getting ready to do in establishing housing Policy because that is going to be
a Policy of the City."
Tape 2 /Side A
Further discussion.
Manager Smith added, "Should we be successful in our joint partnership with Oviedo on
Economic Development or whatever mechanism we utilize to procure an Economic
Development person, that will be on their work program."
Discussion.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Four Sally McGinnis
Commissioner Sally McGinnis commented on LYNX.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that she thought the Joint Meeting with the
City of Oviedo went well.
AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL "PUBLIC INPUT"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned that he had been asked to declare a day in honor of a local
business owner and thought the City Commission should approve such an action. Mayor
Bush added, "If there is no objection, we will go ahead and do something, it just won't be
a day listed for that person."
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A Certificate of Recognition was suggested and Mayor Bush added, "If there is no
objection to that, then that is the way we will handle this one." Deputy Mayor Krebs
stated, "No objection." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I agree with you."
Mayor Bush said to the City Clerk, "Andrea (Lorenzo Luaces), will you follow up on that
for me, and I will be glad to go present it and read it and so forth City Clerk Lorenzo-
Luaces nodded in agreement.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Leah Weisman, 113 Brookshire Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on behalf of
the Friends of Leash Optional Parks and commented on their concern with the status of
the Dog Park and a matching Grant. Ms. Weisman suggested that if the City was not
going to go through with the Grant, that they would like their monies back.
Mayor Bush asked Manager Smith, "Is this going to be discussed in our Budget
meeting Manager Smith answered, "Absolutely."
Ms. Weisman, "The question is, since you signed the Grant, you can un -sign it? Because
it was a signed agreement, I thought." Manager Smith stated, "Yes." Ms. Weisman
added, "If it's really not considered to be going on, our group would rather have our
money back and donate it to another charity although we didn't want to do that."
Further comments followed with Mr. Pula who said, "I would really like a decision to be
made this summer, whether to proceed with the project
Mayor Bush then asked, "Will this be something we discuss tomorrow night or just
further down the road? Manager Smith responded, "I had not intended to discuss it
tomorrow night, Mayor. I intended to discuss it further down the road." Mayor Bush
then said to Manager Smith, "Would you let Leah (Weisman) know when we are going
to bring that up in our Workshop Manager Smith stated, "Sure."
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested to Manager Smith, "There may be some other
opportunities for the Dog Park." Deputy Mayor Krebs added that she would speak with
the City Manager about this.
Mr. Arsenio Calle, 110 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
subsidizing and being fair to all.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Community Development Department
Presents A Resolution (Resolution No. [Number] 2009 -34) To The Commission To
Vacate And Abandon A Portion Of A Utility Easement On A Residential Lot At
1137 Dappled Elm Lane, Pursuant To The Provisions Of Section 17 -27. Of The City
Code.
Attorney Garganese read Resolution 2009 -34 by "Title
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department addressed
the City Commission on this project.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Community Development Department Nanning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider
Recommendations From The Local Planning Agency On Amendments To The
Adopted Future Land Use Map And To The Text Of The Comprehensive Plan
Based On The City's Adopted Evaluation And Appraisal Report And To Forward
The Proposed Amendments To The Florida Department Of Community Affairs As
Included In Ordinance 2009 -08.
"MOVE TO READ BY `TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager Smith left the Commission Chambers at 7:07 p. m.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom noted, "We have a Citizen Courtesy Information List, if anybody in the
public wanted to receive information from the State, please fill out this form; it's out
there in the lobby. We're just required to make that Notice available to you."
Further comments were made by Ms. Sahlstrom.
With discussion, Commissioner Bonner suggested, "Is there a way to craft the language
in such a way so that it is flexible to come into Compliance with future plans. So, if we
decide that the Town Center District needs percentage `a', and we decide that the
SeminoleWAY District needs percentage `b', we can actually allow the Comprehensive
Plan to flex to those future decisions."
Attorney Garganese explained, "From that perspective yes you can establish policies in
the Comprehensive Plan that require the City to do something else, like establish a Plan
and that plan control is under the Comprehensive Plan. So, basically, you are directing
that something else be done that will implement Policy of the Comprehensive Plan. That
can be done in terms of what you are talking about, what's the most effective of
workforce housing or affordable housing program for the City of Winter Springs
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner noted, "Under your guidance, if we could Amend this
language so that it would be flexible for the by- product of future planning efforts
Attorney Garganese mentioned he would have to review this in consideration of the other
Policies.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke as a resident
and mentioned that in the current Comprehensive Plan, is language that states,
"Discourage the concentration of affordable housing
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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Commissioner Brown asked if verticality issues had been addressed? Ms. Sahlstrom
stated, "We do have a cap in the Town Center of six (6) stories." Commissioner Brown
added, "We may want to look at that as well."
"I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO JUNE 8
(2009)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH REFERENCED TO MR. LACEY'S COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTED, "YOU MIGHT WANT TO DEFINE WHAT CONCENTRATION
MEANS. WHAT CONSTITUTES A `CONCENTRATION'." MAYOR BUSH
ADDED, "MAYBE SOME KIND OF A DEFINITION OF `CONCENTRATION'."
MAYOR BUSH THEN REFERENCED, 1.3.8:, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A
`WIDE VARIETY' FURTHERMORE, MAYOR BUSH STATED, "YOU NEED
TO QUANTIFY WHAT A `WIDE VARIETY' MEANS."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE MENTIONED, "YOU WANT MORE SPECIFICITY
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
CONTROLS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY, IF THERE ARE ANY
OTHER CONFLICTING PLANS."
CONTINUING, ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "WE'LL GO BACK AND
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT
REGARDING WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CONCENTRATION;
DISCOURAGING CONCENTRATION, WHICH IS ALSO A PROVISION IN
THE STATE STATUTE, THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM. IT'S
LOOKING FOR MORE OF AN INTEGRATED APPROACH; BUT, MAYBE WE
NEED TO HONE IN ON THAT ISSUE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BRING
SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMISSION."
MAYOR BUSH THEN ASKED, "ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OTHER THAN THE ONE WE BROUGHT UP
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS REMARKED, "NO." DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS
STATED, "NO." NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at 7:22 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Office Of The City Attorney And Community Development Department
Request The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance No. (Number) 2009 -03, Amending Chapters 16 And 20 Of The City
Code, As They Relate To The Signage.
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a `Motion' to read by `Title' only
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at 7:23 p. m.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Mayor Bush opened Public Hearing on this Agenda Item.
Ms. Laura Rodziwicz, Governmental Affairs Coordinator, Orlando Regional Realtors
Association, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: thanked the City Commission for their
consideration.
Mayor Bush closed Public Hearing on this Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO SECOND READING."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush called a Recess.
The Regular Meeting Reconvened
Mayor Bush mentioned an upcoming Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association Meeting on
June 11, 2009 and that they wanted to discuss the Town Parke apartments project. With
discussion on Sunshine Law issues, it was suggested that Ms. Pam Carroll, Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association President could address this issue for her membership.
Mayor Bush said the City would be in touch with Ms. Carroll.
Note: Due to technical difficulties with Tape 2 /Side B, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 3 /Side A
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Information Services Department
Requests Direction From The Commission Regarding A Request From Florida By
Day Night To Use The City Seal On Their Website.
Mr. Edwards addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown remarked, "I think it is a great argument toward having a logo, that
we can use for marketing purposes..." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "...Absolutely...."
Commissioner Brown continued, "...As opposed to using our Seal."
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Providing The Commission With The City's Fiscal Year 2009 2 Quarter Financial
Report.
Manager Smith explained, "My ultimate goal would be to have this item be on
Informational each time" and noted that future Reports would include more information.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush then said, "So, it will be under Informational in the future. Is that okay with
the Commission Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." No objections were voiced.
Commissioner Brown added, "Great job!"
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department And Parks And Recreation
Department
Wish To Provide The City Commission A Proposal For Modifications To The
Existing Farmer's Market And Procedures For The Continued Operation Of The
Market.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "I really would like to see a [Business] Plan.
With further comments, on the issue of restrooms, Mr. Stevenson noted, "One of the
criteria and one of the recommendations for locating it in front of City Hall was to
allow access to our two (2) rest rooms in City Hall."
Much discussion ensued, including discussion on craft items.
Ms. Anjie Federici, 752 Night Owl Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this issue, and stated, "I have not ever had air brushed t -shirts or
anything like that at a Farmer's Market. Flea Market items need to stay at the Flea
Market. We wouldn't have anything like that at a Farmer's Market. We do have a lady
that does custom sewing. She really doesn't make clothing, she'll make like the aprons,
especially the sports aprons that say `Miami Dolphins', or the `Cowboys' or whatever;
and she'll do a couple of things like that. She makes like the card- holders for the people
who play cards and she does knitting and sewing and I have had people that knit sweaters
that come out there." Ms. Federici added, "No tattoos no hubcaps."
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Commissioner McGinnis asked, "Is there an evaluation period built into this at some
point Attorney Garganese stated, "Yes."
Manager Smith also noted, "A Termination clause." Mr. Stevenson added, "I would
think that would be part of the Contract that we would be looking at. Yes."
Discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "I would certainly think Commissioner, that part of the Marketing
Plan and the Business Plan is going to be a break -even establishment."
Additionally, Mr. Stevenson stated, "We would certainly agree with the Commission that
during this period of time, that we would need to establish a fairly detailed Business
Plan." On the issue of a Business Plan, Mr. Stevenson noted, "I would certainly think
that would be something we would look at and want to have in place prior to this move to
our permanent location, essentially the first Saturday in October."
Further discussion followed on other Farmer's Markets and possible liability situations
such as health and food problems.
Mr. Stevenson stated, "Until said time as they move onto City property, my
understanding is you would retain your current contractual insurance coverage with the
Vendors, with the Town Center Merchants Association. When they come to the City, I
believe it would go under our liability insurance and of course, we're requesting any food
Vendor, not only have their BTR (Business Tax Receipt) from the County, but they have
all of the proper State requirements and local requirements for food vending."
Commissioner McGinnis asked, "You will check those every..." Ms. Federici said,
"...Absolutely."
Attorney Garganese remarked, "For City events, like 4 of July event, we have created a
Vendor Contract Agreement, where they're required to sign it, indemnify, hold the City
harmless, any liability related to their services. We probably should do the same thing
for these Vendors as well, under this new approach." Commissioner McGinnis
commented, "I would recommend that." No objections were voiced.
Further comments followed on hours for the Market Manager.
Commissioner Hovey said, "The Banners are all on the eastern side of [State Road] 434
is there any way we could put Banners on that side of [State Road] 434 maybe at
Edgemon (Avenue) or Sheoah (Boulevard)
Manager Smith asked where the Banner locations were? Mr. Stevenson answered, "The
Banner locations are along [State Road] 434, Tuskawilla Road, Doran Drive, Central
Winds Boulevard, and Vistawilla Drive."
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Mr. Stevenson noted, "One of the things we began to talk about is that some point in time
in the future, we're going to have a Banner designed for Village Walk."
Discussion.
Again, on the issue of Banners, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "You have to include the
west side too." No objections were noted, and Mayor Bush remarked, "We have got that
one covered."
Additional discussion ensued on who should run the Farmer's Market, and partnerships.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COME BACK TO US AT
SUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE A BUSINESS PLAN THAT SHOWS
IT GOING TO A BREAK -EVEN AND THEN INTO A PROFITABLE
SITUATION; A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT OR A PERFORMANCE
CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT WITH MS. FEDERICI, THAT MEASURES
SUCCESS AND PERFORMANCE TOWARD THOSE GOALS OF MAKING IT A
BREAK -EVEN AND A PROFIT CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER SMITH ADDED, "THE BANNERS THEY WILL BE READ
THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR MAXIMUM UTILIZATION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 3 /Side B
REGULAR
603. Police Department
Requesting The City Commission To Review And Provide Direction For The Use Of
Golf Carts On Public Roadways In The City Of Winter Springs.
Chief Brunelle introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
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Chief Brunelle said, "I would also like to give you an idea of what we would like to see
in that Ordinance and what we would bring forward to you and also ask for any
suggestions; so, that we can add your recommendations for that, but `Option 2', where it
says to prepare an Ordinance to allow for the operation.
One of the things that we would ask that you consider would be that and we'll bring that
forward would be they would be seventeen (17) years of age for a minimum age; that
they have a valid driver's license; we will consider or allow fifteen (15) or sixteen (16)
year olds operating a golf cart as long as they have a learner's permit and have someone
that is twenty -one (21) years of age in the seat next to them, operating it and no one by
themselves; just as long as they have some adult supervision.
And the reason for that was seventeen (17) years of age, at least they've had a year of
operating a vehicle by themselves. By State Statute they can at sixteen (16) drive a
vehicle by themselves because they have done it for a year, and we don't have
inexperienced youth or some youth that might not want to pay attention to the rules out
there operating a golf cart in our neighborhoods.
A few of the other suggestions that will come forward will be dawn to dusk regulation;
and some type of light package on the golf cart which would consist of blinkers, brake
lights, headlights, and defmitely a horn or possibly day -time running lights; and this may
be some things that you've already all thought of. But also some type of a permitting
inspection, on a yearly basis where the Police Department would be responsible for
checking tires, brakes, horns, lights, that the sticker is updated; and we've come up with a
system that we think will allow us to track the permitting numbers that we may create on
these stickers; and there can be a Fee for that. There doesn't have to be a Fee for it but
most of what we're seeing across the State is there is a Fee, anywhere from five (5) to
twenty -five dollars ($25.00) for a yearly inspection on your golf cart that would pay for
the Officer's time to do it or whoever is going to do it; plus the cost of the sticker to
recoup the costs.
And also, we're also recommending that there has to be some type of enforcement for
violating any of the Ordinances so, we'd also like to put an Enforcement Policy in that
Ordinance as well. That would be `Option 2'."
Chief Brunelle noted, "City- wide." Furthermore, Chief Brunelle explained, "It would be
for the City streets and the City streets only. You can't drive them on sidewalks; you
can't have them on the Rails -to- Trails you can't have it on Tuskawilla Road. So, it is
only the interconnecting streets that are thirty (30) miles and below. Even State Statute
does that. You can make it more strict if you want to, but I would suggest you keep
within the thirty (30) miles an hour."
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Commissioner Brown commented, "I agree with everything that you listed. What about
insurance? No motor vehicles, other than golf carts I believe are allowed on public roads
without having some kind of liability insurance." Chief Brunelle noted, "That is
something that you could include in the Ordinance." Commissioner Brown stated, "I
would like to see that."
Commissioner Bonner said, "My only question was really the seventeen (17) years old,
when at sixteen (16), you can be a licensed driver independently operating a motor
vehicle on these exact same streets."
Attorney Garganese said, "I think we need to take a look at the issue that Commissioner
Bonner brought up regarding whether that can be imposed; if a sixteen (16) year old
actually has a driver's license" and referenced wording in the Florida Statutes.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Maybe giving a booklet or some kind of a book
to people who apply for this designation, that spells all this out. Revocation of license;
stipulation; the roadways that are allowed..." Mayor Bush recommended, "...A copy of
the Ordinance." Additionally, Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Everything should
be spelled out in writing and given to them and then there are no excuses."
Chief Brunelle mentioned that Captain Tolleson, "Already began the stages of putting
together a brochure that we're going to hand out and also put on our Website, explaining
all of these procedures and Policies that would be put into place."
Discussion followed on the preference for the higher age.
Commissioner Brown noted, "The extra time on the road is critical, because these
vehicles have a much slower speed; so, I think the judgment of distance, the judgment of
interaction of other motor vehicles. You don't have the escape route you have in an
automobile; it has a higher level of tip -over. I think all these things go into having a
higher understanding of the road and motor vehicle interaction."
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH `Option 2'-
WITH THE ITEMS THAT THE CHIEF LISTED. IN ADDITION, WITH
LOOKING AT THE LEGALITY OF INCREASING THE AGE TO SEVENTEEN
(17), AND ALSO WITH ADDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR INSURANCE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Consider Approval Of The Torcaso Park
Area Master Plan And Provide Further Direction As Needed.
Mr. Pula presented an overview of the Torcaso Park Master Plan.
Discussion.
Furthermore, Mr. Pula explained, "This is a Master Plan a Master Plan is a guideline
for the future. It provides you a direction. You can always change it if something else
comes up, but it's where you want to go and look."
Commissioner Brown said "This is incredible. It is a beautiful concept."
With further comments, Commissioner Brown asked about the last line in item 2),
`...Tortoise protection'. What does that mean? How do you protect Tortoises by
erecting a Pavilion
Mr. Pula answered, "That Tortoise protection should not be in there. That new Pavilion
is shown on uplands, and the purpose of that is for the view of the ball fields across the
street."
The process and potential Grants was discussed next.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis complimented the project and suggested, "One thing I think we
need to start real soon is the pond edge." Commissioner McGinnis added, "This just fits
the bill; this is such a beautiful long range plan."
Commissioner Hovey asked if Mr. Pula had considered Federal Stimulus Funds and a
Non Profit Family Services Center. Mr. Pula said he had not yet.
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
605. Police Department
Requests To Discuss With The Commission How A Community Can Contract For
City Services Within A Neighborhood That Has Chosen To Erect Gates At Their
Entrances Or Exits.
Chief Brunelle began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese explained, "With respect to private gated communities, the City can
enforce traffic laws within those gated communities provided there was a written
Agreement with that community; so, there would have to be an Agreement between the
HOA (Homeowner's Association) and the City of Winter Springs that lays out what the
Law Enforcement services the City will be providing within that community."
Discussion followed on compensation issues and Law Enforcement services.
Tape 4 /Side A
Further discussion continued.
Commissioner Brown commented for the Record about his community.
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ENTER
INTO A CONTRACT AND THAT WE CHARGE A DOLLAR ($1.00) PER YEAR
AND RE- EVALUATE THIS TWO (2) YEARS FROM NOW AND SEE WHERE
WE ARE AT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID, "THERE IS NO VARIANCE IN THESE
AGREEMENTS RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AGREEMENT BE CONSISTENT FOR ALL
COMMUNITIES, AND THEY EITHER OPT IN OR OPT OUT."
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED, WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAFT AN
AGREEMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT THE
CHIEF IS COMFORTABLE WITH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE
STREETLIGHT AGREEMENTS. WE HAVE ONE (1) FORM, THIS IS IT. YOU
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT."
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "AND THEY KNOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO
ENFORCE COVENANTS." COMMISSIONER KREBS REMARKED, "RIGHT."
COMISSIONER HOVEY ADDED, "NO COVENANTS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
606. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission Review Its Current Strategy For Procuring A
Permanent City Manager.
Mayor Bush began the discussion on this issue.
Deputy Mayor Krebs distributed some documents to everyone on the dais and spoke on
the many projects that Manager Smith has been and is working on, and his qualifications.
Deputy Mayor Krebs also noted, "I actually wrote my candidate profile. I don't know if
anybody has taken the time to do that; I will just go over what mine was and this was
the order that I thought was really important to me and that was I wanted somebody
who was experienced in Finance and Budgeting. Education was important to me.
Interworking relationships within the City Hall and Police Department was really
important to me. Community relationships was really important to me as well; and then
communication."
Continuing, Deputy Mayor Krebs then said, "Why would I want Kevin (Smith)? Well,
he has knowledge and history of Winter Springs and this Commission and previous
Commission's. He has fifteen (15) years of related experience in a full service City. By
the way, I interviewed Kevin (Smith), as well as I did some of you out there and
employees and Department Heads."
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With further comments, Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "He possesses an MBA (Masters in
Business Administration); he possesses a strong financial and budgeting background
which we really need; and I wrote down here that I have interviewed several Department
Heads and employees as to relationships and communication needs with Kevin (Smith). I
have had no negative feedback whatsoever.
In fact, I have had requests to keep him in his current position as he is doing such a great
job. He has been able to bring together people and bring out from those people some of
their best work. Employees feel that they are part of a team and that their thoughts and
suggestions really do count. We have all seen that. We have all seen a rejuvenation here;
I mean if we are paying attention, we have seen it.
Community residents have praised Kevin (Smith) before he was City Manager, and after.
As a matter of fact, I have received numerous compliments from the CALNO (Council of
Local Governments in Seminole County) cities which are the seven (7) cities in Seminole
[County]; Tri- County [League of] Cities regarding his willingness to help, answer
questions, and provide any information he has available. It has been stated that he is very
easy to work with.
As for communication, Kevin (Smith) has been presenting information to this
Commission for at least two (2) years and I personally have been provided concise,
accurate, easy to understand data as part of my decision- making process."
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Krebs explained, "I know that the 180 days is not up but I
also know that the last time we spoke, we discussed that the rules had changed, and they
have; and if you really look at some of that stuff I passed out, you will see what we are
asking Kevin (Smith) to do."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Krebs commented, "I would really like you guys to say
whether you feel the same way, whether you see, whether you have done that evaluation
process that I have gone through already, in the person that I believe really deserves this
position."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I agree with you. We have worked with Kevin
(Smith)."
Commissioner Brown noted, "I agree with you one hundred and fifty (150 percent if
that is possible. Kevin (Smith) has been the person that I have gone to since 2006 for
straight answers and even when that was the only place that true answers were coming
from; I have always found them to be true and accurate. I have respected Kevin (Smith)
from that time up through this time."
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Next, Commissioner Hovey remarked, "I agree with Commissioner Brown and
Commissioner Krebs and I think we all know what we want and what we don't want and
I think Kevin (Smith) meets or exceeds all of that criteria. We have also had a lot of
changes in the City in the last six (6) months and I think in order to continue to move our
City forward on those good changes that we have had, we need to offer Kevin (Smith) the
City Manager job on a permanent basis."
Commissioner McGinnis said next, "In reality, I think we have already made that
transition in our minds anyway..." Commissioner Brown said, "...Absolutely..."
Commissioner McGinnis continued, "...We have accepted the fact that Kevin (Smith) is
our City Manager and so, we might as well agree and let us formalize it and move
forward."
Manager Smith spoke as the Commission's Human Resources Director and commented
on the process to hire a City Manager; and suggested a profile be considered.
Then, Manager Smith said to the City Commission, "I cannot even begin to formulate in
words how honored I am to hear you talk about me in this way and to say these things
about me."
Commissioner Bonner commented, "I too have had nothing but a great experience thus
far, in all my business dealings with Kevin Smith as Interim City Manager."
Commissioner Bonner then suggested that a profile and search and selection process
should follow.
With additional comments, Commissioner Brown stated, "I have had a longer period of
time to work with Kevin (Smith). He has I think, been doing large facets of this job for
years now. He has proven himself not only competent; he has proven himself effective;
and he has proven himself honest and trustworthy; of really high integrity; of high ethical
standing, and I think for myself, if I was to design, not having been in this position for an
extremely long time, if I was to design the type of individual I would want to see as Chief
Administrator of our City, especially after having worked with a couple of them and
now with Kevin (Smith), I think the criteria that I would draft is going to mimic what I
have seen for the past couple of years."
Furthermore, Commissioner Brown remarked, "I think his past history; his commitment
to the City, his commitment to this Commission, and the way in which he has
professionally executed his job, I think speaks for itself."
Mayor Bush added, "He gets along with all of you, and that is an unusual thing." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "You are right, he does."
Commissioner Hovey said next, "I think Kevin Smith is the right person for the job and I
don't think we need to spend money and time to go out and look for someone who we
already know I think we already know will do the job and is what we want."
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Further comments followed on a search and selection process and related decisions.
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, you yourselves know the difference, you can feel it.
And you know, the Staff feels it it is very hard to quantify. I mean it really is and the
citizens have felt it. The County Manager has mentioned it to me. I mean there is a lot of
confirmation that Kevin (Smith) is the right man for the job."
"I THINK THAT I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY WHEN I SAY THAT I MAKE A
MOTION TO HIRE KEVIN SMITH AS OUR PERMANENT CITY MANAGER,
A CONTRACT TO BE DRAWN UP BY ANTHONY (GARGANESE) AND
WORKED OUT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Brown said, "Welcome Home." Deputy Mayor Krebs and Commissioner
Bonner asked, "Do you accept Mayor Bush added, `He doesn't have any choice, he
has to accept." Mayor Bush then stated, "Congratulations Kevin (Smith) I think you
are the right man for the job! And you have proven yourself. We don't have to interview
four (4) or five (5) other people to know that you are the right guy believe me." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "We don't."
Mayor Bush asked the City Commission, "Would you like to have a formal reception to
meet our new City Manager and his family Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes." No
objections were noted. Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo Luaces, "Would you
coordinate this with Kevin (Smith) because his family has got to be involved in this and
some of the Commissioners are going to be out of town and so forth and so on. Can you
handle that City Clerk Lorenzo Luaces said "Yes" and asked if they had preference for
the location? Manager Smith stated, "I think we can work it out."
Mayor Bush added, "Andrea (Lorenzo Luaces), you and Kevin (Smith) work that out
the main thing is that we want the people to be able to attend so we need to have it at the
time the Commissioners can all be in attendance and give it time to get it advertised so
people know." Again, Mayor Bush said, "Congratulations Kevin (Smith)!"
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 9:49 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ORENZO LUACES, MMC
CI CLERK
APPROVED:
A l i
OR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the June 8, 2009 Regular City Commission Meeting.