HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009 05 26 Regular 606 Review Strategy for Procuring City ManagerCOMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM 606
May 26, 2009
Special Meeting
Consent
Informational
Public Hearin
Regular X
REQUEST: City Manager requesting the Commission review its current strategy for procuring
a permanent City Manager.
PURPOSE: This agenda item is needed for the Commission to review the current strategy for
procuring a permanent City Manager.
CONSIDERATIONS:
On January 26, 2009, the Commission reviewed aprocess/options presented by the Interim City
Manager for procuring a permanent replacement for the former City Manager. After discussion, the
Commission voted to delay that process for 180 days as follows:
"I MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE GET THROUGH THIS
FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN AND WE GET THROUGH THE
BUDGET PROCESS AND WE REVISIT WHAT WE DO WITH THE CITY
MANAGER POSITION IN 180 DAYS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
On April 27, 2009, the Commission re-entered discussions regarding this process. At the conclusion of
those discussions, the Commission voted to direct the City Manager to bring back this issue as an
Agenda Item for the May 26, 2009 Commission meeting for further consideration.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Manager recommends that the Commission review its current strategy for procuring a
permanent City Manager and provide any direction it deems appropriate.
ATTACHMENTS:
COMMISSION ACTION:
Date: May 26, 2009
The attached documents were referenced during
Regular Agenda Item "606" during the May 26,
2009 Special City Commission Meeting.
Originally was brought up because of the change in City needs (down 2 critical positions), preparation of
future city needs. City Commission can modify at any time.
Process to vrocure new Citv Manager (Item 607) January 26 2009
1. Identify the attributes you are looking for in a City Manager (CANDIDATE PROFILE)
2. Determine aprocess/strategy for procuring a person with those Characteristics
^ Hire an Executive Recruitment Firm that specializes in City Manager Searches
^ Perform the search In-House
^ Utilize an ICMA "Range Rider" to perform search
My CANDIDATE PROFILE
1. Experience in Finance and Budgeting
2. Education
3. Inter working relationships
4. Community relationships
5. Communication
Why In-House -Kevin
• Knowledge and History of Winter Springs and Commission
• 15 years of related experience in a full service City
- Financial/Budget Analyst, Deputy Finance Director, Finance Director also managing IT and
Human Resources, General Services Manager, Interim City Manager.
• MBA
• Possesses a strong Financial and budgeting background
• I have interviewed several department heads and employees as to relationships and communication
needs with Kevin. I have had no negative feedback whatsoever. In fact, I have had requests to keep
him in his current position as he is doing such a great job. Employees feel that they are part of a
team and that their thoughts and suggestions really do count. We have all seen it!
• Community residents have praised Kevin before he was the City Manager and after. As a matter of
fact, I have received numerous complements (CALNO cities, Tri-County Cities) for our City Manager
regarding his willingness to help answer questions and provide any information he has available. It
has been stated that he is very easy to work with.
• As for Communication, Kevin has been presenting information to this Commission for at least 2
years and I personally have been provided concise, accurate, easy to understand data as part of my
decision making process.
Kevin has recently initiated an Evaluation Process program (still under construction). This program will
be derived from our Goal Setting initiative from which a strategic plan will be developed. This process
will provide us with clear and identifiable metrics.
Since January 26`", and including that date (though the May 18t" Special Meeting), there have
been:
8 City Commission Regular Meetings
2 Attorney-Client Sessions
4 City Commission Special Meetings (including 2 Joint Meetings with the Local Planning
Agency)
4 City Commission Workshops (not including...
1 Community Visioning Workshop
1 Goal Setting Workshop)
All of the City Commission Minutes since January 20, ?009 through the May 11, 2009 City
Commission Meeting were reviewed and all of the discussions which had some kind of directive
given to either the City Manager and/or Staff were pulled out and most of the discussion were
copied onto the attached document.
Please note that none of the Public Hearing Agenda Items were included, but as you can imagine,
the City Manager probably still had something to do with these Agenda Items and/or issues.
Also, many Consent and Informational Agenda Items which had no discussion in the Minutes,
again, the City Manager probably also had something to do with these Agenda Items and/or
issues as they progressed from Staff to the City Commission.
Also to note on the attached document is that if under an Agenda Item or a Report item, if there
was more than one discussion area, that was color coded, so it was easier to read -that is why
we weren't able to double-side the copies.
Most of the different discussion points under each Agenda Item or Report were noted, as it
showed more of what was being asked of Staff, whereas just the Agenda Item title would not
probably remind anyone of all that was asked of the City Manager and/or Staff -thus, the
attached document shows a lot of what was asked of the City Manager/Staff since January 20,
2009. and that is with no General Services Director and losing a Finance Director.
Also, this would also not include attendance at individual meetings with Elected Officials, Staff
Meetings, and other City events, nor individual discussions with citizens or other parties, nor
telephone calls, nor emails.
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Commissioner Bonner commented on ttae rrccnt t:;11..N0 (('ou-acil of Loc<ai Governments
in Seminole County) meeting and the Large number of employee initiatives underway as
identified by a guest Speaker frorn the Cih~ of Altamonte Springs. It was suggested that
01/12/09 Interim City Manager Smith mi„;ht v~ant to check into the initiatives presented b~• the City No date
Regular of Altamonte Springs. specified Manager Smith
Mayor John Bush handed out a document dated January 9, 2(109 from the (former) Office of
Ronald W. McLemore related to the City of Winter Springs planting a tree and purchasing a
granite type plaque honoring former Mayor Philip A. Kulbes. Mayor Bush said to Attorney
Catherine D. Reischmann, "Would you ask Anthony (Garganese) to research this'?" Attorney
O) 120;09 Reischmann stated, "Certainly will." Mayor Bush added, "At the next Meeting, maybe under "Next Attorney Randy Stevenson to call Attorney
Worksho his Seat he could ive us a brietin T." Meeting" Gar Lanese Gar~anese
Further discussion followed on lands owned by the City, and Mr. Stevenson stated, "Public
Works; the spray fields; those things that -could be developable, but they already have a
purpose." Commissioner Brown mentioned that the old Public Works property was to become a
park. Mr. Stevenson noted, "I've got to look back into that - 1 don't know that we ever acquired
- f believe the last recommendation was to acquire the services of a Landscape Architect for the
01!20/09 layout of that -Kevin (Smith) - I need to check on that." Ms. Sahlstrom noted. "1 believe that's No date Chuck Pula is working on this and is
Worksho been done and there's a Conce t Plan." s ecitied Chuck Pula comin back with an A enda Itean
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "Perhaps we could come up with something with our own
designation, `Winter Springs Green' designation and certify our buildings `Winter Springs
Green' to a certain point -that shouldn't cost them anything for LEED (Leadership in Energy
and Environmental Design), but we are doing it ourselves, making sure they are following the
principles." Mayor Bush, commented, "That is a good idea." Mr. Stevenson stated, "We will Kip Lockcuff
01/20/09 certainly look into it - it could be something implemented into our normal everyday inspection No date and Randy
Worksho ~ rocess as the building is ~oin~ u ." s ecified Stevenson
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Deputy y1uy~>r I{reb, mentionrd that "C)n ur about Oetcher ,ll~~' the city Nl~ina~~er ~~~is
supposed to bring back information to us regarding a list of possible partners for us to review
regarding entrusting the current Conservation Easements at the Winter Springs Golf Course and
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at Tuscawilla Golf Course." Attorney Garganese stated, "I did give the Manager some
information on that..." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "...We never received it." Attorney Randy Stevenson also assisting; Per
Garganese then noted, "I have some information I could give to Kevin (Smith), but the Manager 4/29109 Staff Meeting, Manager
01 ~26r'09 was working on finalizing Chat too." Deputy Mayor Krebs requested of Attorney Garganese, No date Smith to contact Owner's Attornev
Regular "'Can ou ive that information to Kevin (Smith)?" Attorne Gary=anew stated, "Sure." s ecified Mana per Smith via a letter on status
At the conclusion of the Senior Center discussion, Deputy Mayor Krebs then asked, "Also at Chuck Pula &
01,26!09 that same time -would like to really look at the pricing structure as well: when ~_ ou bring that No date Attorney Manager Smith and Chuck Pula are
Re~~ular back Kevin (Smith). That is not art of the Motion." s ecified Garganese working on this
Per 4i29~09 Staff Meeting, Mana~~er
Cumrnissioner McGinnis asked that f~~lanager Smith contact the Attorne~~ fur the Gulf Course fur Smith to contact Owner's Attorney
0210909 periodic updates and suggested this be done quarterly. Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Just No date ~~ia ~i letter un ;tutus - ,ec !.'26'09
Re~~ular ask for status reports - an ~ tans to demolish any buildin ~s" and to do this on a re *ular basis. specified ti~1ana~~cr Smitl~r enhv
Deputy Mayor Kre s asked for a Workshop on tie Pension and stated, "1 want to know what our
funded level is what we need to du and where we need to go." Manager Smith suggested, "I
would ask that you allow the Board of Trustees to maybe work through this a little bit longer
before we come back to you to be sure that we have some ;cod information to present to you.-'
O~~U9'U9 Deputy Rlayor Krebs said tr, ~Ia~~.~~r~r Smith, "I luw about within sixty (60) days." Man~r~~ur "yyithin sixty
Re~rdur Smith stated, "Sure." 160) davs" Nlana>er Smith
Mayor Bush summarized, "Su, the-r we have agreed that the facilitation will be through an
RFP (Request for Proposals) which the !ylanager will prepare and ,you can bring back
what we have talked about. What is going to go in the RFP (Request for Proposals) -the
number of Members; the locations; kind of the format of the program. And do we need to
decide on -whether or not we will do a Special Election, or General Election or mail out -
does that even need to be in there?" Attorney Garganese stated, "No." Mayor Bush
added, "So, we can handle that later." -Commissioner Bonner commented that "1 think
we are going to need to hammer out the scope of work a little bit more than this very, very
high level -perhaps the Manager, t don¢t know if Kevin (Smith), if you feel you have
02/16/09 enough direction to put together a draft but 1 would think we would want to see that draft No date
Workshop before it goes out from a RFP (Request for Proposals) standpoint." ~pecitied y~lanager Smith Refer• to Ylinutes fog r~~~rs r a~°t.rils
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Discussion followed again on Cih name badges and Mayor Bush suggested, "In terms of
what we see here on the screen here, Commissioners, would you agree that we maybe have
-Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), do research on what something like this would cost?" Deputy
02/16/09 Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes, and she actually has done some research." No objections were No date
W'orksho voiced. Mayor Bush added, "Andrea (I,oren~o-Luaces), is goin = to research it." specified City Clerk
Deputy Mayor Kre s spoke o getting ~~~rt t e Agencies re ated to the Conservatron Easement.
Manager Smith said, "1 will have to get back to you." Much discussion ensued on options,
partnering, and getting the Owner to the table. Mayor Bush said, "I think the Commission has
asked the Manager, not this one, but the previous one, to come back with some more
02/23/09 information; so -Anthony (Garganese) just said that; so [think Kevin (Smith) needs to do that. , No date
Re ~ular Mana Ter Smith stated, "And he will." s ecified Staff
03%09;09 Mayor Bush asked C'omrnissioner Brown for information to write the letter to the State on Colo No date Commissioner
Re=ular Rectal Sereenin *. Commissioner Brown noted, "1 will make that ha en." s ecified Brown
n er eports, ommissroner rown sar to anager mit , t ~m t ~e conversatron actua y
happened before you took the helm. There was a lot of talk about generating, and you and [
actually talked about. this earlier today even -about putting together an -Economic
Development entity, a public relations person, that kind of thing. But, as I was thinking that
through today, there was also in-depth conversation about developing a how to do business with
Winter Springs document for Developers. Manager Smith said, "Be happy to bring something
03/09; 09 back to you with some options and suggestions for proceeding." Mayor Bush stated, "We have No date
Re ~ular Consensus on that." s ecified Manager Smith
tits. Crotte~ explained, "A1 of t e rn ormatior7 that yorr generate will come back to you in a
ReporE. Statt~will do some work on iC and it will then come back to you ai some point as part of
a work program for you all to make decisions and hopefirlJy to actually relate it to your Budget:
because the whole purpose of this is to give input to Staff in their preparing the Budget for next
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4y4~rkshop su ort so th~ri vo~~ can make s tlccisiorr." s eci~ticd Sta#'f
Next, Commissioner Brown recommende that Community Development Department "Come
back and do a review of the Compatibility Ordinance before us so, that we can look to see if it
really makes sense the way that it is written." Mayor Bush asked, "How quickly can you get it
04/ 13/09 back?" Mr. Stevenson stated, "It's probably going to be the first Meeting in May." Mayor Bush
Regular added, "Commission - everybody is okay with this?" Other Commissioners nodded in "Fyrst Meeting
Meetin a reement. in Mav" y1r. Stc'~cns:~tl
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(~~:r~~~;iiasir~a~~~r 13on~~r~` c~zmmentc~l ran tl~c~ z~~°~eai1 C~.~l,~(~ ((~i~~rncil «f~ Luca) t:u~c•rniti€•r~~5
to SCnIInOlt t~Ottrtt4~) fi(Ctlllg and the large IFliln}}€r t)t Lnlpld)~"Ee 3tiiUStIVCS tlnd(CW"si~' 4tti
identified by a guest Speaker from the City ref' ;~ttamonte Springs. It was suggested that
til/12/ti9 IntCl'Inl (Its' Manager ~{n!fh €~l!!;!!f 41~13l~ (?) i.'~'ei't:~ tn[f) the i€1lttat74E'~i pretit'nt~"fl 1)k t~bi' ~ dt~ ~<) datf'
Regular of :1ltamonte Springs• specified \lanat;cr Smith
Mayor John Bush handed out a document dated January 9, 2009 from the (tonner) Office of
Ronald W. McLemore related to the City of Winter Springs planting a tree and purchasing a
granite type plaque honoring former Mayor Philip A. Kulbes. Mayor Bush said to Attorney
Catherine D. Reischmann, "Would you ask Anthony (Garganese) to research this`?" Attorney
01'20/09 Reischmann stated, "Certainly will." Mayor Bush added, "At the next Meeting, maybe under "Next Attorney Randy Sztevenson to cal Attorney
Workshop his Seat he could ive us a briefing." Meeting" Garganese Garganese
Mr. Stevenson spoke of a survey related to going North US Highway 17-92 and noted, "That
will be coming to us through the RPA (Regional Planning Agency), of which we can react and
begin to determine our level of integration with that. And I would think -that property in
Winter Springs is going to be much more attractive if we get on board and monitor what the
County is doing. Even though it may necessitate some changes in our Comp[rehensive] Plan to
be compatible with that." Mayor Bush added, "We can do that in the Comp[rehensive] Plan,
right - we set up these corridors and treat them differently." Mr. Stevenson explained, "I believe
01/20/09 we -can just put an Overlay District in. I'll have to check uito that. I want to make sure I'm on No date
Workshop firm ground before I commit to it." specified Randy Stevenson
Further discussion followed on lands owned by the City, and Mr. Stevenson stated, "Public
Works; the spray fields; those things that -could be developable, but they already have a
purpose." Commissioner Brown mentioned that the old Public Works property was to become a
park. Mr. Stevenson noted, "I've got to look back into that - I don't know that we ever acquired
- I believe the last recommendation was to acquire the services of a Landscape Architect for the
01/20!09 layout of that -Kevin (Smith) - I need to check on that." Ms. Sahlstrom noted. "I believe that's No date
Workshop been done and there's a Concept Plan." specified Chuck Pula Chuck Pula is working on this
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "Perhaps we could come up with something with our own
designation, `Winter Springs Green' designation and certify our buildings `Winter Springs
Green' to a certain point -that shouldn't cost them anything for LEED (Leadership in Energy
and Environmental Design), but we are doing it ourselves, making sure they are following the
principles." Mayor Bush, commented, "That is a good idea." Mr. Stevenson stated, "We will
01 /20%09 certainly look into it - it could be something implemented into our normal everyday inspection No date
Workshop rocess as the building is goin up." s c~ ied Randv Stevenson
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Mayor Bush inquired, "Why can't you do exactly what Commssioner Bowler just said -the
CRA on 434?" Ms. Sahlstrom responded, "I think that we could put Policies in place in the
Comp Plan that give direction in that way." Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "I think if we're
going to do a vision, and I think we should. That should be one of the points that we discuss,
whether or not we want to do what it means." Mr. Stevenson said, "If that's the direction of the
Conunission and they want to pursue that, then we'd certainly be willing to do it." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "I don't think we know if we want to pursue it or not, but I think we need
to have the information to make that decision." Mr. Stevenson noted, "I believe we can
undertake that effort independent of some of the things we talked about in the CompPlan, at this
01 /20/09 point." Commissioner Bonner and Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Right." Commissioner Bonner No date
Workshop added, "The frame of reference is the 17-92 CRA." specified Rand Stevenson Rand Stevenson to pursue
Ms. Sahlstrom noted, "We have no Policy relating to Trails" [In our Comprehensive Plan].
Continuing, Ms. Sahlstrom explained, "We have the Cross Seminole Trail -it's discussed in the
`Recreation and Open Space Element', but we have no Policy relating to Trails." Furthermore,
Ms. Sahlstrom said, "It was a real oversight. It wasn't intentional." Ms. Sahlstrom then
suggested that the City Commission, "If you -are agreeable to this, I think that is one thing we
really could do is -it's in support of the State Road 434 issue and then also the green space issue
is look at Trails as a big component of one of our directives for the future. Adding Policies, a
01/20/09 whole section, an Objective and Policy related to Trails." With no objections, Mayor Bush No date
Workshop stated, "Put it in." specified Randy Stevenson Randy Stevenson working on t his
Mayor Bush asked why wouldn't Lighting be included? Mr. Stevenson responded, "I think it
could certainly be in as a Goal. It could be addressed outside the Comp[rehensive] Plan, but i
it's the Commission's desire Eloise (Sahlstrom), I don't know any reason why we can't put it in
as a Goal, maybe in `Transportation'." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "I think especially in the Town
Center - our Town Center section and Urban Central Business District section of the
Comp[rehensive] Plan has more specifics on how the development should proceed."
Commissioner Brown then mentioned "Pedestrian access, and not having lighting as a deterrent
01/20/09 to that." Mr. Stevenson suggested, "Put it in that section." Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "It could No date
Workshop be Amended." specified Randy Stevenson
Deputy Mayor Krebs asked about Whole Foods and the Ondick property. Mr. Stevenson spoke
of previous conversations and said "I will be glad to keep you up to date on the status of those
01;26;'09 conversations." Deputy Mayor Krebs commented, "I would really like to be kept up to date on No date
Regular that." Mr. Stevenson stated, "Absolutel ." s ecitied Rand Stevenson
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01'26109 Commissioner Brown mentioned ERO Fusion Restaurant and suggested Mr. Stevenson check No date
Regular on the status. Mr. Stevenson remarked, "I'll do that." specified Randy Stevenson
Deputy Mayor Krebs mentioned that "On or about October 30`x' -the City Manager was
supposed to bring back information to us regarding a list of possible partners for us to review
regarding entrusting the current Conservation Easements at the Winter Springs Golf Course and
at Tuscawilla Golf Course." Attorney Garganese stated, "I did give the Manager some
information on that..." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "... We never received it." Attorney
Garganese then noted, "I have some information I could give to Kevin (Smith), but the Manager
01 /26/09 was working on finalizing that too." Deputy Mayor Krebs requested of Attorney Garganese. No date
Regular "Can ou give that information to Kevin (Smith)'?" Attorne Garganese stated, "Sure.'" specified Manager Smith Randy Stevenson also assisting
At the conclusion of the Senior Center discussion, Deputy Mayor Krebs then asked, "Also at
O1/2E/09 that same time -would like to really look at the pricing structure as well; when you bring that No date Manager Smith and Chuck Pula are
Regular back Kevin (Smith). That is not art of the Motion." specified Chuck Pula workin on this
Commissioner Hovey inquired if there would be Summer Programs and related Fees listed on
O 1126/09 the Website? Ms. Dalka said, "I would have to get back to you on the details." Ms. Dalka No date
Regular added, "I will get back to ou on that." specified Joanne Dalka
Mayor Bush inquired, "Have you talked to the Developers and asked them'?" With further
01/27/09 comments, Mayor Bush said to Mr. Kandzer, "Would you talk to Dale [Kirby]?" Mr. Kandzer No date IS and Community Development
S ecial added, "I have talked to Dale [Kirb ]about this kind of stuff, but I will talk to him some more." s ecified Ron Kandzer De artment to work to ether
Mayor Bush suggested, "I think it is important that we talk to the people." Mayor Bush added,
"The Developers who do business with the City, believe me they know, because we do hear
about it; and so, I think that is who you should be talking to."In summation, Mayor Bush said, "I
01/27/09 sense that there is going to be money involved - at some point, you will come back with that to No date
S ecial the Commission." Mana Ter Smith stated, "I will." s ecified Mana Ter Smith
In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned to City Manager Smith that Richard Grogan had
advised him of an issue - "If you are heading south on Moss [Road], crossing [State Road] 434,
he said our landscaping is blocking the vision for people who might be wanting to make a right Randy
01/27/09 on red. In other words, you cannot look to the east and see, he does not think, clearly." Mayor No date Stevenson/
S ecial Bush added, "If ou would, check on that and et back with Richard (Gro an)." s ecified Steve Richart
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ir~n±inissinnrr ~lc(;inni, asked that _~ianager Smith contact the Atturney for the Golf Cour., f~~r
;i' tl~i U~~ ,~rri:~dic update., and suggested this be done quarterly. Commissioner McGinnis noted. '~.lu~t V'~, ci~it
Regular- , ,,~r status reports -any plans to demolish any buil~!ii~~-_~', and t~~ I.~ ,i~; ~,n a regular basi~~. ~i,~,, ii~i~~~3 ~\i~,n-, ~, r ~mth
Commissioner McGinnis asked about the status of whether ;; I'ulicc ~ )kfi~:~r ~.c~u~ld be rc~idin:~ in
a vacant house on Lori Anne Lane. Discussion followed with Manager Smith and Chief of
Police Kevin Brunelle related to the financial aspects of this. Chief Brunelle spoke of some
02 O9!Oy information he had been given and stated- "1 w-ill look at that t~~~norro~n~ and >~-~~ ±[~ 1 ran m~~~i
Regular forward on ~~etting somebody in there. if it is still available." Sec ~~'linut~~~ i ~~~.i,. K ~.:~,~~il;
Conunissioner ivlcGinnis spoke of receiving many documents ajul suggeste:(. --~ ~~~.u~kl lii:r ti~at
everything we get would have a date somewhere on it; so, that ~~~e do have that reference -like u
~~ (1y c)~-~ footer on it." Mayor Bush stated, "Kevin (Smith). you can take care of that. can't vou:'" '~~.~ d,it~
i~c~ular Manager Smith responded by saying, "I certainly can." prr,,ir~j ti;,;;
eputy ayor re s as -e or a or 's op on t e enston an state • " want to -now w iai our
funded level is what we need to do and where we need to go." !~-1ana~~er Smith suggested, "I
would ask that you allow the Board of Trustees to maybe work through this a little bit longer
before we come back to you to be sure that we have some good information to present to vou."
~~ U9'09 Deputy L~tayor Kroh, ~aa '~~anager Smith- ~~i'~ a ah~~ut ~;iti-~; ~~t~~. tr,U} dati~s."' Man~~t~~rr
~ „~~~ittitn ,.<~~
<ceular Smith stated. "Sure.-- (60) day ~~ 11una_.r ~~i~;th
Conunissioner Bonnet ~;x~~kr ~~i~a E,re~~ious p~r~ ~r~~.~.;;,n h~. the I'r~ r t i _~ lily Manager ~~ith a
cost neutral scenario. Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested that Manager Snuth "Look at what Port
02~09'Q9 Orange has done." Deputy Mayor Krebs recommended it be built where the reclamation center No date
Re~ctlar i, c.:rnntl~ piann~~d f~~n~. <~~c•~.iiied '11an.3er~ ~n;itlt
7:, „•,i,~n fol!~+~~~~c~ ...,~ t.~i~i: s ~ni~r•; .;nd C~_unrni,siot~er tit._<iiE~~,us "i_ -'i. i, in i, i
range plans." Manager Snuth laid, "I flunk I am hearing some support for the Community; Civic
t?? Ci~~ (~~~ Center - if it is just a matter of money, I have some ideas that I would like to come back to you ~o date
IZe~~ular with at our Budget Meetin~~ and es lore if further." Mavor Bush stated, "Good." specified `, ,,, ~, ~~~ ~niitit
02/16/09 Depute Mayor Joanne M. Krebs mentioned that if a Po~cerPoint is presented, "Please No date
~~'orkshop don't read it." specified Staf'1'
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liayor Bush summarized, `, o, t en e~c ha~~e a=rireed that the acd~tahon will he through an
REP (Request for Proposals) which the Manager wilt p~°epare and you can bring back
what we have talked about. What is going to go in the RFP (Request for Proposals) -the
number of Members; the locations; kind of the format of the program. And do we need to
decide on -whether or not we will do a Special Election, or General Election or mail out -
02/16/09 does that even need to be in there?" Attorney Garganese stated, "No." Mayor Bush iodate
~1~orkshop added, "So, we can handle that later." specified _llanager Smith Refer to :Minutes for more details
Commissioner Bonner commented that "I think we are going to need to hammer out the
scope of work a tittle bit more than this very, very high level -perhaps the ~'lanager, [
don¢t know if Kevin (Smith), if you feel you have enough direction to put together a draft
02/16/09 but I would think we would want to see that draft hefore it goes out from a RFP (Request io date
yti'orkshop for Proposals) standpoint."' specified 1Ianager Smith Refer to Minutes for more deh~ils
:Manager Smith added, "I agree that the Seal needs to be consistent and the colors need to
be established, but maybe just think about also developing a City logo and marketing and
02/16!09 branding the City through that logo." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Good." io date
~~'orkshop Mayor Bush added, "That is a good idea -that can be something to be brought up.'" specified Staff
Mayor Bush said, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), would it be possible for you to contact
Channel 52 and see if we could get the clips, because I know Commission Bonner, did
this." Mayor Bush suggested, "That would be good to put on our Website, if they will give
it to us. Will you check on that?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces nodded in agreement. City Clerk Lorenzo-i_uaces
02/16/09
~y'orkshop lleputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "That is a good idea." Manager Smith stated, "Great
idea." io date
specified
City Clerk emailed Channel ~2 requesting
video clips
Discussion followed again ou City name badges and Mayor Bush suggested, "In terms of
what we see here on the screen here, Commissioners, would you agree that we maybe have
- Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), do research on what something like this would cost?" Depuh•
02/16l09 .~layor Krebs stated, "Yes, and she actually has done some research." No objections were No date
y~1'orkshop voiced. ~9a~~or Bush added. ":tindrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), is going ro research it." specified Cih~ Clerk
t)2/23/(19
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vismg a ity ommission e tatus anous urrent amm~g ro~ects.
Deputy Mayor Krebs commented on the Dittmer property and mentioned that the City
Commission does not have access to the drive mentioned in the Agenda Item. Mr. Randy
Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department said, "I will take care
02/23/09 of that and make sure that you do have access to that historical information and those maps up No date
Regular on the drive." specified Staff
100. Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested such contacts and related information could be included in
future Agenda Items. Regarding the City Commission not having access to the City's drives,
Mr. Stevenson noted, "We will try to get that resolved so that the Commission and the other
02/23/09 people have access to this information. I will bring you up to speed at the next Meeting; if that's No date
Re ular agreeable." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Perfect." specified Staff
203. Requesting The City Commission Approve The Magnolia Park Design Proposal. Deputy
Mayor Krebs suggested to Mr. Lockcuff, "However you can make it happen, in four (4) weeks
time." Mr. Lockcuff added, "We plan on making it happen." Deputy Mayor Krebs then
02/23/09 explained, "This was really, really important to us, to get it done immediately." Manager Smith No date
Regular added, "It is and as Kip (Lockcuff) mentioned, we'll et it done." s ecified Staff
204. Requesting The Commission Approve Resolution No. (Number) 2009-17, Repealing
Resolution No. (Number) 849 And Re-Establishing A Leak Adjustment Policy. Commissioner
Bonner commented, "It would be really terrific if this could be readily accessible by any
customer so that anybody could understand what our Policy is and so that we as Commissioners
could easily go to a location and be able to explain this to a citizen." Ms. Greco noted, "If this
02/23/09 is approved tonight, we'll put the new Resolution in place of the old Resolution on the No date
Re lar Website." Mana er Smith added, "We will have it readil available." s ecified Staff
r an eau i ica ion ervices rvision eques mg u onza ion or e i y o n er n o
Contract Agreement With Winding Hollow H.O.A. (Homeowner's Association) For The
Installation Of Up To Thirty-Four (34) Decorative Street Signs Located Throughout The
Winding Hollow Subdivision. Mayor Krebs then suggested, "I do think that Steve (Richart)
needs direction so that he knows what the Policy is of this Commission as to, in the future
should other communities come forward and want to do this that he has something to go on."
Mayor Bush said, "Let's give Kevin (Smith) and Steve (Richart) a chance to come back with
02/23/09 something on this." Mayor Bush asked, "Everybody in agreement with that?" No objections No date
Re ular were noted. s ecified Staff'
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eputy ayor re s spo e o getting wit tie gencies re ate tote onservahon asement.
Manager Smith said, "I will have to get back to you." Much discussion ensued on options,
partnering, and getting the Owner to the table. Mayor Bush said, "I think the Commission has
asked the Manager, not this one, but the previous one, to come back with some more
02/23!09 information; so -Anthony (Garganese) just said that; so I think Kevin (Smith) needs to do that. No date
Regular Manager Smith stated, "And he will." s ecified Staff
03/09/09 Mayor Bush asked Commissioner Brown for information to write the letter to the State on Colo No date Commissioner
Regular Rectal Screening, . Conunissioner Brown noted. "I will make that happen." specified Brown
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Krebs recormnended, "One of the things that I think should be in
our next `Insider' is these new water restrictions that are out. Everybody sees them, they know
0309; 09 about them. That would be good to let people know." Commissioner Hovey and Commissioner See
Regular McGinnis suggested that such information be added to the Utility Bill. "Directive" Stall
n er epo ~, ommissioner rown sai o anager rru n e conversa ion ac a y
happened before you took the helm. There was a lot of talk about generating, and you and I
actually talked about this earlier today even -about putting together an -Economic
Development entity, a public relations person, that kind of thing. But, as I was thinking that
through today, there was also in-depth conversation about developing a how to do business with
Winter Springs document for Developers. Manager Smith said, "Be happy to bring something
03/09/09 back to you with some options and suggestions for proceeding." Mayor Bush stated, "We have No date
Regular Consensus on that." specified Manager Smith
Deputy Mayor Krebs mentioned, "I was on Deleon Street yesterday, and that cabinet company -
they have align - it is leaning up against blocks. Captain Glenn Tolleson, Code Enforcement
03/09/09 Bureau, Police Department said, "Actually that is County right-of-way -the Swale area that you No date
Re ~ular are refe~rrin ~ to I haven't seen the si ~ n, I'll Yo look at it tomorrow." s ecified Ca tain Tolleson
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Mayor Bush said, "I want to follow up on one of Commissioner Krebs' recommendations.
Commissioner, on your recommendation about the water conservation from Oviedo - it is their
turn to host us, and I have talked to their Mayor. I have talked to a couple of their
Councilmembers. They are going to do that. Why don't we ask them to get on the stick and let
that be part of the program'?" Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "That is a good idea." Mayor Bush
stated, "I think it sits better if we go there, and especially under the circumstances. It is their
03/09/09 turn to host the get-together. So, Kevin (Smith), remind me - I will send a letter over to their No date Manager Smitly'
Regular Mayor and make sure we copy their Councihnember's." Mana er Smith remarked, "Yes, Sir." s ecified Mayor Bush
urt ermore, eputy ayor re s commente y suggestion wou e at at wou go
also in the `Insider' - a little blurb about the Lock Box program, and to get in touch with him,
and if you feel a need because of something." Chief Brunelle noted, "We are definitely ready
to move forward on that and I was going to talk to you after the meeting." Mayor Bush No date
mentioned, "Another great public relations o ortunity." s ecified Chief Brunelle
600. Urban Beautification DivisionRequesting That The City Commission Review Options For
An Economic Programmable Message Center Located At The Front Of City Hall. Manager
Smith stated, "If it would be your desire Commissioners, we could bring it back during the
Budget process." Commissioner Brown noted, "Thank you." Commissioner McGinnis
remarked, "Yes." Mayor Bush then asked, "Consensus on bringing it back as a Budget Item?"
Commissioner McGinnis and Commissioner Bonner said, "Yes." No objections were voiced. Staff/
03!09%09 Mayor Bush added, "No one disagrees." Furthermore, Mayor Bush stated, "And Anthony No date Attorney
Regular (Garganese) will check out the le al -for us." specified Garganese
Workshop To Discuss The Forni-Based Code Cun-ently Used In The Town Center. The date o
Monday, May 18''', 2009 was suggested for this Workshop. Commissioner Bonner noted, "I am
03109.09 tine with the 18`'' [of May 2009]." No objections were noted. 6:00 p.m. was suggested as the
Regular start time for the Ma 18'h, 2009 Worksho 5/18%2009 Randy Stevenson
Commissioner Jean Hovey suggested that since the Citizen Advisory Committee Meeting was
not held last evening, "Maybe you could send something out to all of those people that normally
03%12%09 would have attended about that." Chief Brunelle noted, "Not only am I going to do that; we're No date
Worksho actuall re arin~ a t7 er to ~o out as a communit alert as we s eak." s ecified Chief Brunelle
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Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs also suggested that this could also be brought up at a Council
of Local Governments in Seminole County [CALNO] Meeting; and added, "If there are no
objections from the Commission, the Chief (of Police) and I had talked about - we are actually
in the process of fmding out if any of our sister cities in Seminole County are utilizing any type Deputy Mayor
03! 12/09 of program like this. What we would like to do is go to their Commission Meetings and present Krebs/
Workshop it, once we have what Captain (Kevin) Presle is working out." No objections were voiced. 4/1/2009 Chief Brunelle
Requesting Consideration By The City Commission To Re-Evaluate The Commercial Vehicle
Ordinance Section 20-434. Mayor Bush mentioned that a large truck had parked in his church's
03/12/09 parking lot and said to Captain Tolleson, "Would you -watch that?" Captain Tolleson No date
Workshop responded, "We will take care of that." specified Captain Tolleson
ayor us sugges e o anager mi a mg is on a gen a or a c ange a our nex
Meeting?" Manager Smith stated, "Yes, Sir." Mayor Bush added, "Or as soon as we can get
it." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "Yes, as soon as we can." Attorney Garganese explained, "We
are going to need to take that to the Land Planning Agency because it is in the Zoning District
Regulations; so, they would have to make a recommendation..." Deputy Mayor Krebs
remarked, "...Okay...." Attorney Garganese continued, "...So, I will prepare the Ordinance. Staffs'
03%12/09 We will get it on the next LPA (Local Planning Agency) Agenda and hopefully you will see it No date Attorney
Worksho soon thereafter." specified Garganese
. s. rutty exp acne . ' , o ~ t e m ormation C sat. you generate wt come ac ~ to you in a
Report. Stai~f will do some work on it and. it will then come back to you at some point as part ~rl'
a ~a~ork program for you all to make decisions and hopefully to actually relate it to you- Budget;
because the whole purpose of this is to give input to Staff in their preparing the Budget for n~~t
U3 ?1-09 I=iscal~'ear. to understand where yourC'ummi~si>>n ~~ant~ tc~ ~r rind ~t~l~:rt tt~ce arc ~~~illin<~_ to ~~~~ laic
~~Vorksho ~ ~u »art sv that you can make a decision.~~ ~~~L.'ii~ic~ai ~t~ai
'r ~a n4 ..
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:. •,: ..; Fi:, ~a. !' °~Trlitii ii s'v., ;:;li:,:irt, ik.: 1t 4lct, lti i.;~n.tihsl.td 3a)rr i>t lieu sria:
~:~ateAmerica' has informed us that Winter Springs has been nominated for inra
it top 100 best places to live program. Quite frankly, I would like to look int
,ization." wIayor Bash suggested, "Would that be something we should maybe r<rti;
..~;+~ ,•~.,nrc of the local Realtors about
?" Mayor Bush then said to the City Commission
,~fi3 ~'3 t° f
d7. t.; ,, f4r~i~~f0~ il' {iS ,3( 1'e~1~04: sb. ~t xvtt9417;$1.+'. °, ?7 F?`,3Ge rl fi {3''63 f"B iG"fit Vt4Ri°. '~l..i. ~ r~tl' t iP ~'.. +'ix,.; ~'
P rl'!r a,
_ u.U6'e the is ~: to
fse and pay a penalty under our policy associated with. the impact of the three (3'.
!+s because the replacement of the three (3} trees would not occur." Manager ~~.
••It probably would be most appropriate if we did bruig this item back to yrE
'~~~-.~+;,e+~ ,~±' tae ~•nmments that you have made, fur education of yourself
:? ~~,,fiyt~~, zr refresher c~ur•ct: fair the halErrace t3f kh«• C`arntnic4_'
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'• ~l4J efix ~33,it xa_d.9 i4st iAak: ~. if ~l r~,1i "f .'f ~{J~d t ~tf ~l it `t,'~irl i1.W 9§l` 'f,'6A iiY 13H itil' ~y it d9 ~9:t e~'L lf. ~:.i-.:~
rrr the Manager, as we go into the Budget cycle, is if the time has come for us to i+ °-.
perm of dedicated representation. on City Staff~~`hose focus is exclusively Eca~~
.1 jusi ~ `. sa-~~~£~~+3aat_°` ~ti
,t assur
. aiy;3~ti51r)rlfl' s .,:ears.': „,t~~„ ` ; ,R:p:id at) <t3lTiia.fillEirl ~i<iff - tl'rC1t1C ~~l-7~~oj3fi.:
.3eekend. Wonderfiti to be able to address all the vision statements of
,unity" and Commissioner Bonner mentioned the final comments that Mayor i?
~iissioner Jean lluvey and Commissioner McGinnis needed to submit. ~1ai
._~; t++ said, "tics. (Marilyn) Crotty was going to bring back the information to me. .i
',11179+ titit'i31in8tf it 1Yl (~tirlar}'19tiCl~lElir'1 l~(~S~'ek„ els'4;3n31±~ ``4 PP f( the ~'lav~r ~+)r rha3r" ~'<rtd'"
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Sr ~},. ,. t3Q i,bb:At ~ ~i Z iti' ~ ts~ .e63i dE:7 t, a-i ~ i .'+it„s+ - ,
a<, ._~~il~,, ~~nment As `fhe Facilitator For This P : r;~~.~~ ~ , ,<-<; ,e, : ~-. ,~,~~;.i3 ,,: ~h ;•r . ,
~;,;~ ,~s~ox~-l.ctt, ..Jian~~ tfa4° ct~~, ~ +~E; .;, ~ ~,
onm~tssioner rown continue , " en you come ac .can you ocument ow muc o t ose
Property Taxes are actually business-based..." Manager Smith stated, "...Yes..."
Commissioner Brown added, "...And how much are residential'?" Manager Smith remarked.
03/30/09 "We have the Commercial component; the Personal Property component; the Non-Homestead: No date
Worksho and the Homestead component." specified Manager Smith
ayor us commente to anager mtt a out a o ow-up or s op an suggeste , " ay e
by -the first Commission Meeting in April on the 13th (2009), you may have some idea of
where you are and then we could set the next Workshop?" Manager Smith stated, "Sure. I
03/30%09 would be happy to do that." Mayor Bush added, "Let us put that on the Agenda - to set the
Workshop Workshop date." 4' l 3 2009 Manager Smith
M. Greco noted on 4122/09 that
"Commissioner Brown requested a
breakout of total property taxes into
Mayor Bush then suggested that Manager Smith, "Take a look at when we will have these business versus residential taxes.
Workshops so we can plan ahead with our calendars?" Mayor Bush added, "If you can do that Kevin mentioned the following
over the next few days, it would be helpful." Manager Smith remarked, "I'll be happy to do components property taxes:
03/30/09 that." Mayor Bush said to Manager Smith, "We won't hold you to it, if you have to change it - No date commercial, personal property, non-
Workshop 'ust a rough idea." specified Manager Smith homestead and homestead."
ayor us mentione tat a an anager mrt met wi a representative rom tty tate
Technologies, Inc., which had just been admitted to the UCF (University of Central Florida)
Incubator, and noted, "I asked Kevin (Smith) - to see if we could at some point bring this to the
Commission." Manager Smith remarked, "It's definitely worth looking into and I am doing so
and I will come back to you all at the appropriate time." Mayor Bush added, "It goes along with
03/30/09 what Kevin (Snuth) has been saying about making the Budget transparent - and No date
Workshop understandable." specified Manager Smith
04/06/09
Special No date
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Commissioner Brown asked the City Commission to consider asking City Attorney Anthony A.
Garganese to review the Posting procedure. Furthermore, Attorney Garganese stated, "We can
go back and take a look at -the Resolution to see if it is being interpreted over broadly, or
whether it is just written over broadly and -ratchet it down." Mayor Bush summarized that
"Commissioner Brown has asked that the Commission approve Anthony (Garganese) -working
with the Clerk to take a look at this Resolution. Do you want to go ahead with that or not?"
Commissioner McGinnis and Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes." Mayor Bush noted, "We have
04/13/09 Consensus. Then, Anthony (Garganese), you and Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) take a look at it -
Regular maybe some examples for everybody." Commissioner Brown suggested, "Maybe bring us a list No date City Attorney/
Meetin of thin s that in his o inion we don't need to ost ri ht now." s ecified City Clerk
ext, ommtssioner rown recommen e at ommumty eve opment epartment ome
back and do a review of the Compatibility Ordinance before us so, that we can look to see if it
really makes sense the way that it is written." Mayor Bush asked, "How quickly can you get it
04/13/09 back?" Mr. Stevenson stated, "It's probably going to be the first Meeting in May." Mayor Bush
Regular added, "Commission -everybody is okay with this?" Other Commissioners nodded in "First Meeting
Meetin a reement. in Ma " Mr. Stevenson
iscussion o owe on service. ommissioner c mms as a ow we et peop e
know about this and suggested a Memorandum be sent to Homeowner's Association. Manager
Smith said, "We could include it in a Press Release through our HOA (Homeowner's
04/13/09 Association) dissemination list on email, if that is the desire of the Commission?"
Regular Commissioner McGinnis also thought some brief information could be included in City Utility No date
Meetin Bills. s ecified Staff
04/13/09 Mayor Bush asked Chief Brunelle, "Have you talked to Bill Poe at SWOP (Seminole Work
Regular Opportunity Program)" about the Lock Box program and suggested Mr. Poe be contacted. No date
Meetin Chief Brunelle res onded, "I can do that. Absolutely." s ecified Chief Brunelle
04/13/09 Deputy Mayor Krebs then mentioned that this Thursday is the next Tri-County League of Cities
Regular
Meetin Meeting. Mayor Bush said, "Let me know what time - I want to ride with somebody." Other
u comin events were also mentioned.
See Directive
Staff
Ms. Sarah Werdon addressed the City Commission on a Winter Springs Hometown
Appreciation Day Event set for May 16`", 2009. With discussion, Ms. Werdon said to Mayor
Bush, "Previously when we met, you had mentioned that we could possibly do something on the
04/13/09 Website; maybe even something on the Water Bill, find businesses in the City that could
Regular sponsor such groups as the Police Department." Mayor Bush added, "You need to work with No date
Meetin the Mana er on that and he will do all that he can for what you are askin ." s ecified Mana er Smith
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04/13/09
Regular Requesting The Commission To Set A Date For The Second FY (Fiscal Year) 2010 Budget
Meetin Worksho Summarizin , Ma or Bush noted, "6:00 .m. on the 19th [of Ma 2009]." 5/19/2009 Staff
04/13/09
Regular Set A Workshop Date To Review The Utility Rate Study. Mayor Bush asked, "Six o'clock -
Meetin Ma 4th, [2009]?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Oka ." 5/4/2009 Staff
er iscussion on ommission evtew ormation egar mg a ene its
Proposed Pole Banner Program And An Opportunity To Advertise The City's Fifty Year
Anniversary As Part Of The Program -Manager Smith spoke about Staff working in-house on
the Banners. On suggested design considerations, Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested her
04/13/09 preference for fountains and bougainvilleas; and Mayor Bush mentioned he liked the color blue.
Regular Mayor Bush then said to Manager Smith, "We have great confidence in you and Staff to come No date
Meetin u with somethin ." s ecified Staff
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607. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Consider Options For Proceeding With Procurement Of A
Permanent Replacement For The Former City Manager And To Approve A Salary For
The Interim City Manager.
Interim Manager Smith reviewed numerous details related to this Agenda Item with the City
Commission.
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown commented, "I feel we have somebody competent to get us through this
interim period. I have -confidence in Kevin Smith to be able to do that." With additional
comments, Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "The community needs someone who is going to
work well, interacting with the community. I think we need that in Winter Springs. We have
missed that - as well as with the employees."
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush stated, "I want to speak a little bit for Kevin (Smith) here, because -any time I want
to know something I call Kevin (Smith)." Mayor Bush added, "And Kevin (Smith) would give
us an answer. Kevin (Smith) was a Budget Director and - I think the Budget is going to be one
of the major things that the Commission is going to be dealing with in the future. He has got a
MBA (Master's in Business Administration). We have a well qualified person right now and I
am perfectly happy with just keeping him there."
Additionally, Mayor Bush commented further about Interim Manager Smith saying, "I certainly
have enjoyed working with him and he has been very thorough. He comes to the events, so we
have a good person. And - I would like to speak on his behalf because I know he won't do it.
But, he has done a good job and I think there is something about getting this decision made so
that the City has some continuity and moves forward."
Mayor Bush added, "In interacting with the citizens when we have an issue, whether it is
garbage or water - I call Kevin (Smith)..." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "...Yes..." Mayor Bush
then said, "...I think we all do. And, he has got a good way of working with people as well."
Commissioner Brown noted, "When you have asked Kevin (Smith) a question, at least for me,
the answer that we have received -you just knew that it was the truth. It was never a grey area."
Deputy Mayor Krebs then remarked, "That is really important..." Commissioner Brown
continued, "...And honesty to me and being upfront in going with the information we get so it is
right the first time, or at least as accurate as they know it to be the first time, is a huge issue for
me and Kevin (Smith) brings all of that to the table."
Mayor Bush said again, "I think we have got a good person right now." Furthermore, Mayor
Bush commented, "I would like to see him stay in this position."
Additionally, Mayor Bush stated, "I don't like the title `Interim City Manager'." Mayor Bush
explained, "Regardless of what you do, I would like to say that we stop calling him the Interim
Manager."
Continuing, Mayor Bush then said, "I would just like to say `This is our City Manager', and if
you have no objection, I would like to refer to him that way." No one voiced any objections.
"I MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE GET THROUGH THIS
FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN AND WE GET THROUGH -THE
BUDGET PROCESS AND WE REVISIT WHAT WE DO WITH THE CITY MANAGER
POSITION IN 180 DAYS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on payment for Manager Smith's responsibilities as City Manager.
Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record and said he was comfortable with the suggested one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars ($120,000.00). Discussion followed on the City Manager's
salary and the relationship with subordinate salaries.
Commissioner Bonner asked, "What happens if we get to the end of this journey and Kevin
(Smith) returns to being General Services Director?"
Attorney Garganese suggested, "From my perspective as the City Attorney, what I am hearing is
even though you want to do away with the `Interim' denotation of the title, it's sort of like a
provisional title -for 180 days on it." Attorney Garganese added, "We can put it in writing, if
the Commission so desires, because I think there needs to be that mutual understanding at this
juncture, that it is provisional."
Manager Smith stated, "To your question, obviously I would humbly hope for the opportunity -
should the Commission decide to go another route, to be able to continue to serve you in my
prior capacity -however..."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OFFER THE SALARY OF A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ($120,000.00) A YEAR TO KEVIN
SMITH AS OUR CITY MANAGER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THIS IS FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME OF..."
COMMISSIONER HOVEY ADDED, "...SIX (6) MONTHS."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then remarked, "That is retroactive, right?" Commissioner Brown stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Hovey remarked, "Yes." No objections were voiced.
Attorney Garganese suggested, "Do you want me to just probably write up - a provisional
Agreement." Deputy Mayor Krebs said, "Yes please." No objections were noted.
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603. Office Of The City Manager
Advising The Commission Of The Marketing Strategy For The Upcoming Community
Visioning Meeting With Marilyn Crotty And Requesting The Commission To Set A Date
For The Upcoming Associated Commission Goal Setting Meeting.
Manager Smith stated, "Marilyn (Crotty) is available any Saturday in March which is per your
request." Regarding advertising the Community Meeting, Manager Smith asked, "If you would
be willing to or think it would be prudent to have a banner or sign out in front of City Hall
advertising such -there are some cost numbers there, if you think that is a good idea."
Mayor Bush asked, "The 21St [of March 2009] okay with everybody?" Deputy Mayor Krebs
stated, "Yes." No objections were noted. Manager Smith noted the time as "9:00 a.m."
Furthermore, Manager Smith stated, "This is a six (6) hour all day deal with an hour for lunch."
Summarizing, Mayor Bush stated, "The 21St [of March 2009] - 9:00 a.m."
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In conclusion, Mayor Bush stated, "I want - to congratulate Kevin (Smith) for the job he is
doing. I think you are doing a great job Kevin (Smith)." Additionally, Mayor Bush noted, "I
think you are doing a good job under - really a lot of pressure, because -things were kind of
thrown on you all at once and you don't have a Kevin [General Services Director position] to
work for you. I also want to congratulate the Commission. I think you are doing a good job
working together."
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405. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Lastly, Deputy Mayor Krebs asked about the City Manager position.
Commissioner Brown stated, "I can tell you that my preference would be that we just continue
him (Kevin Smith) on and keep him in this role without going out to Bid." Commissioner
Brown added, "I think Kevin (Smith) has done an outstanding job and I think putting him in this
role permanently would be the right thing to do; but we did commit to 180 days -unless we want
to bring it back as an Agenda Item and change that."
Discussion.
Mayor John F. Bush stated, "Kevin (Smith) is still the acting Manager and we have two (2)
important positions that are vacant and I don't think we are going to get good applicants until
whoever applies knows that our Manager is our Manager."
Mayor Bush added, "It is not fair to him to put those kind of responsibilities -three (3) jobs on
him here under the circumstances and I think he is doing a great job by the way; so, I am not
being critical of him in any way, but, I just think we need to take a good look at this. I am
convinced he is doing the job personally and I would imagine most of you feel the same way too.
But, I just think that we need to think about this, because - he needs to be able put his Staff
together so that we can move forward."
Commissioner Brown remarked, "I echo the Mayor's comments." Furthermore, Commissioner
Brown explained, "I was perfectly comfortable with the 180 days and if that was the only
position we were looking for, I would be equally comfortable with waiting that time period
because I do think Kevin is doing the job. I do think he is fulfilling all the criteria that we had
set and I have been extremely happy with the communication; the accuracy of the information he
presents; and his involvement with both the Commission and Staff; and watching that interaction
happen."
Additionally, Commissioner Brown noted, "If we are not going to make this position permanent,
how can we possibly fill those other two (2) roles before we have the permanent City Manager in
place, because if it is not Kevin (Smith) - I just think it would be fair to let the permanent City
Manager pick his Staff and hire his Staff that he is going to be working with; so, I think that
would be the only reason why, and I think that is actually a good reason that we may want to
look at this before the 180 [days]."
Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "Kevin (Smith) has proven himself. Not just here in City Hall.
I mean I hear it with everybody he has even come in contact with, whether it be residents or
business people."
Further brief comments.
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Commissioner Bonner commented, "I will echo that all of the tasks and activities that we have
been seeing are being performed magnificently by Kevin (Smith) thus far. I don't have any
criticism of Kevin's (Smith) role thus far as City Manager. Just to be clear -during this 180
days, there are some rather significant City Manager responsibilities which we will have an
opportunity to observe. The number one most critical component is the preparation and the
process of developing our Budget, plus the fact that we will be dealing with the challenges that
are handed to us by what comes out of Tallahassee and I for one, look forward to observing
Kevin's performance as our Interim Manager during these challenges."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT
MEETING AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner Brown asked Commissioner Bonner, "Do you think that can accurately be done
given the fact that our City Manager will be down two (2) critical positions?" Commissioner
Bonner responded, "I believe it is an opportunity for us to observe, not only the City Manager in
Kevin (Smith), in his performance as our City Manager, but - it is the opportunity for us to
observe Staff in their performance during this time of change where Staff is being called upon
inevitably by a reduced amount of defined leadership to effectively step up and have a chance to
demonstrate themselves to Kevin (Smith) as Acting City Manager as well."
Furthermore, Commissioner Bonner noted, "This is a short period of time remaining. There are -
some material activities that will take place. I think it is a golden opportunity for us to see the -
continued great performance, not only of Kevin (Smith), but to see Staff's performance. In no
way, do I want to necessarily add to the burden - I recognize that it is creating additional burden,
but I do believe - in answer to your question - I believe that all that needs to be done can be done
with the resources that we have available."
Commissioner Brown noted, "You are proposing that we evaluate the City Manager on his
ability to generate a Budget without a Finance Director or a General Services Director, at his
disposal?"
Commissioner Bonner remarked, "I believe that the City Manager is well served by an
outstanding Budget Manager; by an outstanding Budget tool - a brand new Budget tool and by a
brand new Budget process which has never been practiced by the City before, which is Zero-
Based budgeting and therefore this is a new experience for all participants within the Staff; and I
think that we are going to see an opportunity for the entire Staff to lend a hand and participate in
the process or have a chance to observe how each of them respond to this challenge that we are
placing before them.
I believe when we get through this in a few months, absent having answered those questions,
because I respect the key leadership responsibilities, but one of the things in addition to this
Commissioners, that I believe may come out of this, is that in an absence of those defined
positions, as the Staff and Acting Manager Smith are putting together this Budget, we may see
recommendations that would come forward for potentially a different organizational structure in
some way or some element, yet to be known.
But, if we go ahead and pigeonhole a business as usual solution, in advance of this 180 day
timeframe, I don't think we are creating an environment that will allow that form of creativity to
occur, within an organization where quite frankly, everyone is interested in performing well
during this time frame. I think it is a great opportunity for us to allow that to occur."
"I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN THAT THIS COME BACK TO US IN TWO (2)
WEEKS AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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601. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Acceptance Of Investment Report For Quarter Ended March 31, 2009 As
Prepared And Presented By PFM Asset Management LLC.
Mr. Alexander stated, "I support Kevin (Smith) in your decision - he has been awesome to work
with. We really appreciate working with him!"
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605. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests That The City Commission Review The Current Detailed Plan Regarding The
July 4 Celebration Of Freedom/City Of Winter Springs 50th Anniversary And Provide
Staff With Direction As Deemed Appropriate.
Mr. Pula remarked, "Be glad to discuss it in our next meeting. Great meetings and again, I thank
the City Manager for them. His input and being a part of it has really been nice."
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Interim Manager Smith commented about an email he sent the City Commission related to
Investments and Bank of America and explained, "I immediately consulted with our new
Financial Advisor Steven Alexander, which I will do on all cases with any Investment processes
going forward, and although he was confident that the money was safe in Bank of America; for a
few reasons, he still thought it was a good idea that we proceed by getting that money out of
there and comply with the Temporary Investment Policy."
With further discussion, Interim Manager Smith noted, "I have asked Steven (Alexander) to
come back with along-term Investment strategy and a revised Investment Policy to the extent
that it is needed, which it will be, for your February 9th (2009) Meeting to develop along-term
strategy that he and everyone is comfortable with."
Mayor Bush added, "I appreciated the email [from Interim Manager Smith]." Deputy Mayor
Krebs added, "Yes." Interim Manager Smith then explained, "That is my plan for the future. I
trust that's okay with the Commission." No objections were voiced.
Interim Manager Smith then noted, "Again, all the Investment decisions in my mind -will be
reportedly with the blessing of Mr. Alexander." Commissioner Gary Bonner said, "Very good.
Thank you."
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Community Development Department
Buddy Balagia, Community Development Project Manager For Seminole County Will Give
A Status Update On The Neighborhood Stabilization Program.
Mr. Buddy Balagia, Community Development Project Manager, Seminole County, 1101 East
First Street, Sanford, Florida: addressed the City Commission on a program related to
"Neighborhood Stabilization Program" funding.
Commissioner Gary Bonner asked what we could do to get the word out? Mr. Balagia suggested
information could be sent out via our Newsletter. Discussion followed on who might qualify for
this program.
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301. Office Of Commissioner Rick Brown
Recommending That Angie Federici Addresses The City Commission On The Winter
Springs Farmer's Market For Discussion.
Ms. Angie Federici, 752 Night Owl Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on the Winter Springs Farmer's Market and the need for signage, banners, and
Vendors.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese stated, "There are some that can fall under the Farmer's
Market original License and then there are others that cannot; and - we had addressed that about
a year ago - so, we can go back and look at it and make sure that we're doing everything by the
book."
Commissioner Bonner commented on marketing and regulations and suggested Staff look at the
process and regulations. Signage in the Winter Springs Town Center and assisting Crafters was
also addressed.
Commissioner Rick Brown suggested Ms. Federici work with Staff on the licensing issue and
come back with a plan related to advertising.
Ms. Federici stated, "I want to be able to put signs up to advertise the Market so that I can bring
customers; and I want it to be advertised on the City's Website. Those were two (2) of the things
that I wanted. And, just support from the City; and the City talking it up; and being willing to
support the Market."
Mayor Bush suggested, "Since you mentioned Winter Park and Maitland, that we ask Staff to
take a look at their Ordinances and procedures and then bring it back to the City Commission,
whenever you can get it together Kevin (Smith)."
"I WILL MOTION -WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, THAT WE ASK STAFF TO LOOK
AT SURROUNDING COMMUNITY SIMILAR EVENTS; THEIR ORDINANCES,
ETCETERAS, AND BRING THAT BACK TO US - IN THE FORM OF A
RECOMMENDATION, OR AT LEAST AN UNDERSTANDING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush mentioned issues related to advertising and asked if that issue could be covered as
well.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
Interim City Manager Kevin L. Smith stated that the requested list of Awards and
Accomplishments was placed at their Seat on the dais prior to the Meeting.
Secondly, Interim Manager Smith remarked, "We are in the process of instituting some
improvements in our customer service delivery. I think you may have seen earlier on Consent
where we have revamped the Utility Bill as a result of comments from our customers." Interim
Manager Smith then spoke of more customer friendly changes with the payment counter
procedures in the Building and Utility Billing Divisions which will now include having cashiers
on both sides of the building.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three -Gary Bonner
Secondly, Commissioner Bonner stated, "I wanted to compliment the Chief - I attended the CAC
(Citizen. Advisory Committee) Meting. I was overwhelmed by the participation; in fact. think,
the Chief maybe outgrowing his ability to host that meeting at its current location because there
were so many citizens participating in the CAC (Citizen Advisory Committee) Meeting and that
is just a terrific thing."
Chief Brunelle stated, "As a result of the last meeting and the last couple of meetings, I have
already approached Mr. (Kevin) Smith on making other arrangements for other City venues."
Next, Commissioner Bonner spoke of the recent Scottish Highland Games and suggested to
Staff, "Although Staff does a great job of letting us know that there is an Event and that it will be
scheduled over a certain period of time; if there are particular moments during those Events,
when the Commission should be present - if it is possible to say, `Everyone, the opportunity to
be present as an Elective body is at 6:00 p.m. on Saturday evening', or something of that nature,
that would be helpful to me and perhaps the rest of you on the Commission and Staff, in order to
schedule accordingly."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs mentioned that "C~n or about October 30`" -the City Manager was
supposed to bring back information to us regarding a list of possible partners for us to review
regarding entrusting the current Conse~l~ation Easements at the Winter Springs Golf Course and
at Tuscawilla Golf Course. I am not sure if you are aware of that Kevin (Smith] or Anthony
(Garganese)? I - think you were going to possibly play a part in this?" Attorney Garganese.
stated, "I did give the Manager some infot7uation on that..." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "...VGe
never received it." Attorney Garganese then noted, "I have some information I could gi~~~e to
Kevin (Smith), but the Manager was working on finalizing that too." Deputy Mayor Krebs
requested of Attorney Garganese, "Can you give that info~-~nation to Kevin (;Smith)`?" Attorney
Garganese stated, "Sure."
Interim Manager Smith said to Deputy Mayor Krebs, "I'rn aware of the issue just because of my
attendance, but I don't know what plans or progress that the former Manager made to be honest
with you." Deputy Mayor Krebs then said, "Can we try to get back on track on that`?" Interim
Manager Srnith responded, "Absolutely."
Next, Deputy Mayor Krebs mentioned that the City Commission had previously discussed some
kind of a flyer, possibly entitled, "Did you Know?" with such information like "RUOK?"; medic
ID information; and a lockbox program - to further show "That Winter Springs does care about
its citizens."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK SOME
INFORMATION ON -AND YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT - A `DO
YOU KNOW?' TYPE INFORMATIONAL SHEET TO BE DISTRIBUTED OR PEOPLE
COULD PICK UP EVEN HERE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS FOR THE MANAGER
TO DEVELOP AN INFORMATIONAL SIIEET ABOUT THE GOOD THINGS IN
WINTER SPRINGS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Next, Mayor Bush mentioned the "Families in Transition" program with families needing water
services and how the City can assist.
Commissioner Bonner suggested church outreach programs, and thought that along a similar
line, that the City "Could assemble a list of organizations that are in a position to assist citizens
with outreach type opportunity and extend an invitation for those organizations to be -brought
together in a group, as a resource pool."
Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioners, can we ask Kevin (Smith) then maybe to contact -
especially the churches, any other non-profits that are in the City -assisting these families in
transition -this recommendation would have to come from her office, because she screens these
people. So - we could work out some kind of a procedure so that the charities here, the churches
- will have some indication that these people have been screened." No objections were noted.
Commissioner Bonner added, "There may be other clearinghouse organizations that exist, Mayor
that are already in the business of doing this, and it may be as simple as pointing them in that
direction." Mayor Bush remarked, "I will talk to her about this, and if the Commission has no
objection, then Kevin (Smith), if you could -maybe send a letter out to the area churches, the
ones in Winter Springs anyway." No objections were voiced. Interim Manager Smith stated,
"Will do Mayor."
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408. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown congratulated Staff and the Police Department for their outstanding job at
the Scottish Highland Games saying, "Everybody that was involved, did a stellar job. Chief, I
understand we had upwards of 25,000 people in our City over the course of the two (2) days."
Next, Commissioner Brown spoke about City Funds being overbudgeted, and forensic
accounting procedures.
"I WOiH.D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK KEVIN (SMITH) - I WILL
GIVE KEVIN (SMITH) THE INFORMATION IHAVE -AND ASK KEVIN (SMITH)
TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED
WITH SOLICITING, SECURING, AND GETTING BIDS FROM AN AUDITOR THAT
WE CAN LOOK AT, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST US TO
GO THROUGH OUR BOOKS IN A VERY DETAILED AND ORDERLY FASHION."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS INQUIRED, "WOULD THAT MEAN ALL
DEPARTMENTS." COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED, "YES."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Workforce housing and commercial vehicles was discussed next.
Deputy Mayor Krebs said, "I would like to have that brought back as an item as well with
information."
"I MAKE IT A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK
INFORMATION FOR OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, AN AGENDA ITEM
FOR US TO DISCUSS OUR CURRENT BAN ON COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING
AT OUR HOMES, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW IT MIGHT BE
MODIFIED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
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612. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About Senior Center Membership Benefits And
Guest Fees, And Senior Center Rules And Regulations And Give The Commission An
Opportunity To Provide Comments.
Attorney Garganese said', "I haven't examined those Association rules..." Deputy Mayor Krebs
asked, "...Would you be able to do that?" Attorney Garganese noted, "The rules - I would say
have to be adopted by the City Commission of Winter Springs because it's your facility -and
these Association rules, if they are being applied on behalf of the City of Winter Springs. We
really need to examine those because they may not be appropriate."
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested the City Manager and the City Attorney review this information
and suggest improvements. Commissioner Bonner thought a pocket card of rules would be
helpful; and Commissioner Brown recommended that we compare and review both sets of rules.
On membership issues, Commissioner Hovey suggested having a guest pass, possibly for three
(3) months, and costing twenty-five dollars ($25.00).
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK - TO HAVE
THE CITY MANAGER AND ANTHONY (GARGANESE) LOOK AT WHAT WE JUST
SPOKE ABOUT AND THEN BRING THE ITEM BACK."
MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "INCLUDE SUSIE (COFFMAN) AND CHUCK (PULA)
ON THAT?" DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS ADDED, "OF COURSE."
FURTHERMORE, DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS NOTED, "I WAS DIRECTING THE
MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Krebs then asked, "Also at that same time -would like to really look at the
pricing structure as well; when you bring that back Kevin (Smith). That is not part of the
Motion."
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600. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Review The Magnolia Park Concept Plans And Provide
Staff With Direction.
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Departments presented this Agenda Item
for discussion.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway Street,
Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item and
mentioned their interest in also including a synthetic skating rink.
Discussion ensued on budget issues; operational costs; and that there was less interest in a Splash
Pad, but more interest in the skating rink; and funding sources.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GET THIS DESIGN FINISHED." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS TO CONTINUE
WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT."
COMMISSIONER HOVEY INQUIRED, "THE DESIGN - ARE WE GOING TO
INCLUDE THE SKATING RINK AND THE SPLASH PAD. IS THAT PART OF IT?"
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS STATED, "THE SKATE RINK YES, NOT THE SPLASH
PAD."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush suggested the Citizen's Committee be informed about this project. Deputy Mayor
Krebs recommended that they are advised about the funding source.
REGULAR
601. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Review The Preliminary Engineering Report By CPH
Engineers For Reclaimed Water Augmentation From Lake Jesup.
Commissioner Brown mentioned to Interim Manager Smith that the former City Manager had
had meetings with an individual about a possible water taxi service. Interim Manager Smith
said, "May be worth pursuing."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REQUEST THE CITY
MANAGER AND STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION NUMBER 2 AND
THE DESIGN, AND TO BRING THAT BACK TO US FOR REVIEW WHEN IT IS
COMPLETE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: NAY -
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
610. Information Services Department
Wishes To Present The Commission With Several Web Site Design Options As Well As
Inform The Commission Of The Various Web Site Initiatives And Time Frames For
Implementation. We Request That Commission Choose A Web Site Design And Provide
Direction On Priority Of Initiatives.
Commissioner Bonner mentioned receiving comments from individuals related to parking and
arbor issues; and suggested that such "FAQ's (Frequently Asked Questions) include information
on such issues." Ms. Dalka noted, "It would be very helpful if you would forward me any of
your frequently asked questions that you are asked by the residents."
Commissioner Hovey inquired if there would be Summer Programs and related Fees listed on the
Website? Ms. Dalka said, "I would have to get back to you on the details." Ms. Dalka added, "I
will get back to you on that." Commissioner Hovey also suggested that the Seminole County
Public Schools Website should be on the City of Winter Springs' Website Links.
With further comments, Commissioner Bonner recommended that during the Visioning process
that citizens be able to offer ideas related to the City's Website. Interim Manager Smith stated,
"Yes, Sir."
Ms. Dalka added, "We are going to proceed with this list, but if there are priorities of the
Commission, then we will focus on those priorities."
REGULAR
605. Office Of The City Manager
Requests That The City Commission Review This Agenda Item And Offer Guidance On
How To Further Proceed With Their Inquiries About A Charter Review Process.
Commissioner Brown stated, "I was going to make the recommendation that we actually take
`605' to a Workshop, if the Commission so desired. I think we are going to need to have some
discussion on how we proceed with that Charter."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE `605' TO A WORKSHOP
AND SCHEDULE IT ACCORDINGLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush asked about a date for this Workshop and suggested, "February 16th, [2009].
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "That is fine." Commissioner Brown said, "Yes." No one voiced
any objections. Mayor Bush then noted, "Six o'clock on February the 16th, [2009] -the
Workshop on the Charter Review Process." Commissioner Brown stated, "Perfect." No
objections were voiced.
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603. Office Of The City Manager
Advising The Commission Of The Marketing Strategy For The Upcoming Community
Visioning Meeting With Marilyn Crotty And Requesting The Commission To Set A Date
For The Upcoming Associated Commission Goal Setting Meeting.
Manager Smith asked further if the City Commission wanted to have a banner advertising this
Meeting? Brief discussion. Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "I would like a banner." Mayor
Bush suggested, "People I think are used to seeing the banners down by -the Town Center."
Manager Smith stated, "We could certainly do that."
Deputy Mayor Krebs asked Manager Smith, "Did you ever check on those -traffic signs?"
Manager Smith responded, "The lights, I have not - I will follow up."
Mayor Bush then suggested, "A banner down at the Town Center everybody -okay with that?"
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes." No objections were voiced.
REGULAR
602. Police Department
Requesting City Commission Review And Approval Of A New Lock Box Program For The
Citizens Of Winter Springs.
Chief Brunelle addressed the City Commission on this initiative and mentioned, "All the
information provided to us for this program is not only not public record, it would be considered
confidential; and so we would not have to give it out to anybody requesting this information. In
addition, any future meetings we had on it could be considered not Public Record."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
PROGRAM AND TO UTILIZE Option 2 AND Option 3." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS NOTED, "Option 2 FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT;
Option 3 FOR THOSE WHO CAN."
VOTE: - -
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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609. Information Services Department
Wishes To Present The Commission With An Overview Of The Ongoing Kiva/GIS
Initiatives And Requests That Commission Provide Direction On Their Priorities With
Regard To Future Initiatives.
Discussion then followed on "ProjectDocs", and other initiatives.
Commissioner Brown noted that regarding permits, "The ones that are most frequently
requested, may not be the ones that have the largest dollar value associated with them if they are
delayed. I look at this list and I think and see things like Aesthetic Review; Preliminary and
Final Engineering Plans; Concept Plans; Comp[rehensive] Plans; Future Land Use Amendments.
Those typically have a much higher dollar value and cost to our Developers who are trying to
invest in our City, than somebody wanting to get a garage sale permit.
And, so I wonder if another way of looking at this -what benefits people actually coming in,
wanting to spend millions of dollars in our City developing projects, as opposed to somebody
wanting to put a fence in." Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs noted, "Absolutely."
Manager Smith said to the City Commission, "I one hundred and ten percent (110%) support all
those projects and one thing that I will pledge to you that we will do at this City is ramp up our e-
commerce and our e-government on line services." Manager Smith then commented on the
"420" [Development Services] Fund.
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner said to Mr. Kandzer, "As you are going through the process
of automating what is a manual process, you may discover that there are inconsistencies or
antiquated checks and balances in our Ordinances that could possibly be brought back before the
Commission for modification and updating that could enhance the citizens' process, as well as
you as Staff, your experience. So, I guess I will ask Kevin (Smith) to make sure that as those
are, undoubtedly, you are finding those opportunities. Let's get rid of the old twenty (20), thirty
(30) year old Ordinances, if they no longer apply, because automation has solved those
problems."
Deputy Mayor Krebs said to Ms. Dalka, "You are the Manager and I think you have been to
enough Meetings to probably understand the Commission's will, and that I trust you to make
those decisions as a Manager myself."
Mayor Bush suggested, "I think it is important that we talk to the people." Mayor Bush added,
"The Developers who do business with the City, believe me they know, because we do hear
about it; and so, I think that is who you should be talking to."
In summation, Mayor Bush said, "I sense that there is going to be money involved - at some
point, you will come back with that to the Commission." Manager Smith stated, "I will."
In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned to City Manager Smith that Richard Crrogan had
advised him of an issue - "If you are heading south on Moss [Road], crossing [State Road] 434,
he said our landscaping is blocking the vision for people who might be wanting to make a right
on red. In other words, you cannot look to the east and see, he does not think, clearly." Mayor
Bush added, "If you would, check on that and get back with Richard (Grogan)."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS. F'I_.ORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 9, 2009
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission To Hear A Presentation On SeminoleWAY From Mr.
Tom Tomerlin, Program Manager, Seminole County Economic Development.
Commissioner Bonner said to City Manager Kevin L. Smith, "The question regarding
conducting landowner meetings where we would I guess Mr. Tomerlin's point was -one of the
next steps is for us to sit down with the landowners -that is possibly a new process or maybe an
on-going process but do you have any beginnings to envision of how we would go about doing
that."
Manager Smith stated, "Randy (Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development
Department) and I have had some communications as recent as I believe it was last week about
trying to put that together, at a Staff level to introduce myself."
Commissioner Bonner then remarked, "I would definitely welcome the opportunity to listen to
those key partners in expressing their vision for their property as we have vision for their
property. I really would love the opportunity to listen to them and have a chance to participate in
that dialogue if there is an opportunity for -either us as individual Commissioners or us a
collective body. Just a suggestion." Manager Smith noted, "Absolutely."
Mayor Bush asked Mr. Tomerlin, "Do you want us to put that together or is this something the
County is going to put together at which we will be participating in -what do you prefer?" Mr.
Tomerlin remarked, "The Planning and Development Director and -she kind of mentioned, we
could probably do it but really I would like to have your -input as to how you would prefer to do
this. And we don't need to decide tonight certainly - we do think it is the critical next step."
Commissioner Bonner then suggested to Manager Smith, "At our upcoming Visioning Meeting
with the citizens on [February] the 26th, will SeminoleWAY be included in that dialogue?"
Manager Smith stated, "We can certainly ask her to include this also. I think it would be a
prudent thing to do and be happy to do that."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Receive A Presentation From The City's New Financial
Advisor, PFM Asset Management, LLC.
Continuing with his presentation and comments, Mr. Alexander noted, "We have already
prepared a `[Preliminary] Cash Flow Analysis'. I have just given this to Michelle (Greco,
Director, Finance Department) - when I walked in the building today. The `[Preliminary] Cash
Flow Analysis' is a detailed analysis of all the Funds of the City." Mr. Alexander added, "This
is an attempt to start to develop Investment strategies for short-term Funds versus long-term
Funds, so that we kind of get away from the idea that we have all the Funds invested the exact
same way. Okay?
I want to get to the point where we can make use of your longer term assets and obtain a better
rate of return while the short term assets are being invested to make sure all your obligations are
being paid, so that's really kind of the end-game that we want to get to, in establishing these
multi-strategies for your short-term assets. And, the `[Preliminary] Cash Flow Analysis' that has
just been presented to Michelle (Greco) -she will need to get with Kevin (Smith) and we'll kind
of go through it so that we can start fine-tuning it. This is just a preliminary draft of this. There
are going to be Funds that we will need to eliminate from the Analysis because they are not part
of the process."
Furthermore, Mr. Alexander mentioned incorporating "Reporting mechanism to you so that we
set up reports so that you're properly informed on a regular basis of the Investments."
Commissioner Bonner asked Manager Smith, "Don't we have some short term investments that
we are going to probably have to reinvest until Mr. Alexander's plan is ready to be executed?"
Manager Smith said, "Yes Sir. We are up against a `CDARS' (Certificate Of Deposit Account
Registry Services) maturity this Thursday and second maturity the following Thursday."
Manager Smith then explained, "I spoke with Steven (Alexander) briefly and I will let him speak
to this, but I think his recommendation is to roll that yet one (1) more time for a thirty (30) day
period, both the maturities and that we move forward with this implementation strategy." Mr.
Alexander agreed and stated, "Yes."
Additionally, Mr. Alexander noted, "Our recommendation at this point would be to repeal the
Resolution that limited it to just three (3) Investments. This was Resolution 2008-56."
Furthermore, Mr. Alexander suggested, "We should repeal that; revert back to the original City
Investment Policy so that we have multiple securities available to us."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese noted, "That Resolution would be repealed at the same
time that you are Adopting the modified -long term Investment Policy that Steven (Alexander)
has put together." Continuing, Attorney Garganese suggested, "If you would just authorize one
(1) additional rollover -until you adopt the new Investment Policy."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE MOTION IS TO DO THE ONE (1) ROLL-OVER."
MANAGER SMITH FURTHER SUGGESTED, "IF THE COMMISSION IS SO
INCLINED TO ROLL THE `CDARS', (CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT ACCOUNT
REGISTRY SERVICES) IF YOU WILL, ONE (1) MORE TIME, AND STEVEN
(ALEXANDER) WILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND
ANTHONY (GARGANESE) TO COME BACK WITH A NEW INVESTMENT POLICY
WHICH WILL ESSENTIALLY REPEAL THE TEMPORARY POLICY, GO BACK
AND REVERT TO OUR ORIGINAL POLICY AND ADD THE ADDITIONS -ADD THE
ITEMS THAT STEVEN (ALEXANDER) REFERRED TO."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract Agreement With The Middlesex
Corporation For Asphalt Resurfacing Of Various City Streets.
Commissioner Bonner asked how we would communicate this good news to the citizens.
Manager Smith suggested the City's Website and Commissioner Bonner recommended Utility
Bills. Manager Smith added, "We can certainly do that also."
1VIr. Brian Fields, P.E., Civil Engineer, Public Works Department noted, "We will do up the
individual notices for all abutting properties as we normally do."
Discussion followed on a stuffer in the Utility Bill or a line notice at the bottom of the Utility
Bill. Commissioner Sally McGinnis spoke of her concern with the cost of a stuffer and thought
that with the Website and the individual notices, that that was sufficient. Commissioner Bonner
added, "I am fine with not adding costs. I just want to make sure we tell the people."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
Manager Smith asked if the City Commission would like to schedule a Budget Workshop for
March?
Discussion followed on possible dates and Mayor Bush suggested, "March the 30'"." Deputy
Mayor Joanne M. Krebs said, "Yes." Commissioner Brown. remarked, "Works for me." Mayor
Bush recommended a time of "Six o'clock." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Yes." Mayor Bush
summarized, Monday "March 30th, six o'clock -Budget Workshop."
Further discussion ensued on the Budget process and strategy.
Manager Smith then spoke on the status of a requested Forensic Audit and related costs.
Continuing, Manager Smith noted, "We will be back at the next Commission Meeting -
hopefullywith afull report and direction on how we proceed."
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis asked that Manager Smith contact the Attorney for the Golf Course for
periodic updates and suggested this be done quarterly. Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Just ask
for status reports -any plans to demolish any buildings" and to do this on a regular basis.
- Next, Commissioner McGinnis asked about the status of whether a Police Officer would be -
residing in a vacant house on Lori Anne Lane. Discussion followed with Manager Smith and
Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle related to the financial aspects of this. Chief Brunelle spoke of
some information he had been given and stated, "I will look at that tomorrow and see if I can
move forward on getting somebody in there, if it is still available."
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs commented on an email from Bill Starmer and suggested that a Workshop
be held on the Town Center Code and added, "I don't think any of us should be making any
decisions on changing a Town Center Code until we all have the information that we need; in
order to make that decision, and we don't. So, I really would suggest that Randy (Stevenson)
and Kevin (Smith) could get together." Discussion followed on possibly including Dover Kohl
& Partners in such a Workshop; and what such costs would be.
Continuing, Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "Kevin (Smith), if you could maybe put something
together for us; I think it would really be helpful." Manager Smith remarked, "Am I hearing the
Commission say that they do or do not want..." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "...I do. I think it
would be good." Commissioner McGinnis commented, "I totally agree with you. Randy
(Stevenson), you may have, given this some thought, but it has been standard practice in the past,
that when there were new Commissioners -there would be that presentation, and it was Dover
Kohl [& Partners]. And, I think now is a very good time to have that. It should be a Workshop.
I absolutely and totally agree."
Mayor Bush noted, "Make a Motion to have a Workshop on this and Kevin (Smith) will put it
together."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "MOTION TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH A
PRESENTATION ON THE TOWN CENTER."
COMMISSIONER BONNER AND COMMISSIONER BROWN BOTH SUGGESTED
THAT MR. STEVENSON COULD HANDLE DOING THE PRESENTATION INSTEAD
OF DOVER KOHL & PARTNERS.
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS SUGGESTED THAT MR. STEVENSON REVIEW THE
MATERIALS AND INFORMATION ORIGINALLY PRESENTED BY DOVER KOHL
& PARTNERS, AND IF THE CITY COMMISSION THEN FELT THAT THEY STILL
NEEDED DOVER KOHL & PARTNERS TO GIVE A PRESENTATION, THEY COULD
THEN AT THAT TIME SUGGEST THAT.
MR. STEVENSON NOTED, "WE WOULD ALSO MESH WITH THAT
PRESENTATION THE CHANGES AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS
TAKEN PLACE IN THE TOWN CENTER SINCE THEIR LAST PRESENTATION, SO
WE'DBE UP TO DATE."
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS ADDED, "I WOULD ALSO WANT TO SEE IN THAT
REPORT WHY YOU WOULD FEEL OR WHY SOMEONE WOULD FEEL THAT IT
WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE OR KEEP WITH THE CODES AND IF
THERE ARE SOME CODES, THAT -YOU SEE AS A PLANNER THAT COULD BE
RELAXED AND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO RELAX THEM -HOW WOULD
THAT HELP DEVELOPMENT?"
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS MENTIONED THAT DOVER KOHL & PARTNERS
MAY HAVE OTHER SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS IN THIS AREA THAT WE COULD
PERHAPS ATTEND. MR. STEVENSON STATED, "WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE
THEM CHECK THEIR CALENDAR AND LET US KNOW."
COMMISSIONER BROWN NOTED, "ONE OF THE COMMENTS I TYPICALLY
HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS IS THAT THE CODES ARE VERY VAGUE WHEN IT
COMES TO TOWN CENTER CODE AND THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR
INTERPRETATION; SO, WHICHEVER CODES YOU THINK MAY NEED TO BE
TIGHTENED UP OR MADE MORE SPECIFIC; SO THAT WHEN A DEVELOPER
READS OUR CODE, HE ACTUALLY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS READING."
WITH FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. STEVENSON NOTED, "I WILL ADDRESS
THAT, EITHER MYSELF OR DOVER KOHL [& PARTNERS]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Lastly, Deputy Mayor Krebs asked for a Workshop on the Pension and stated, "I want to know
what our funded level is what we need to do and where we need to go."
Manager Smith suggested, "I would ask that you allow the Board of Trustees to maybe work
through this a little bit longer before we come back to you to be sure that we have some good
information to present to you." Deputy Mayor Krebs said to Manager Smith, "How about within
sixty (60) days." Manager Smith stated, "Sure."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned that he attended the last Board of Trustees Meeting and that he
had an in-depth discussion with Manager Smith. Commissioner Brown continued, "I really think
he has got his hands around this..." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "...I don't doubt it..."
Commissioner Brown then said, "... So, I think when he comes back in that time frame, I am sure
he is going to have a solution for us."
REPORTS
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Next, Commissioner Bonner recommended that all City Meetings be noticed on a message board
outside City Hall and thought this could be looked into.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF PULL TOGETHER COSTS FOR A CITY HALL
MESSAGE BOARD THAT CAN INFORM OUR CITIZENS ABOUT MEETINGS AT
CITY HALL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON NOTED, "THAT WILL BE A TEXT AMENDMENT, A CODE
CHANGE TO YOUR TOWN CENTER CODE."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown spoke of a Civic Center and suggested that the old Eckerd's building on
State Road 419 might be considered for along-term lease for a Civic Center. Discussion
followed on parking and what the plans for the building might be.
Commissioner Bonner spoke of a previous presentation by the Port Orange City Manager with a
cost neutral scenario. Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested that Manager Smith "Look at what Port
Orange has done." Deputy Mayor Krebs recommended it be built where the reclamation center
is currently planned for.
Discussion followed on area Civic Centers and Commissioner McGinnis noted, "It is in the long-
range plans." Manager Smith said, "I think I am hearing some support for the Community/Civic
Center - if it is just a matter of money, I have some ideas that I would like to come back to you
with at our Budget Meeting and explore it further." Mayor Bush stated, "Good."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Paul Goddard, 140 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida: asked if the City Commission
would consider creative solutions for a project with unique site constraints and would appreciate
relief from the current Town Center Code.
Mayor Bush asked Mr. Goddard, "Have you talked with Staff about this?" Mayor Bush added,
"This needs to be an Agenda Item." Furthermore, Mayor Bush suggested the Applicant "Get
with Staff on this. It needs to be an Agenda Item for the Commission to look at."
REGULAR
600. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requesting Consideration By The City Commission To Re-Evaluate The Commercial
Vehicle Issues Brought To Their Attention On January 26, 2009.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested this might be a good Workshop subject.
With comments, Commissioner Hovey recommended, "This is maybe something we can add to
our Community Visioning."
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE CHIEF TO WORK WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY ON REVIEWING OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AND MAKING
RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW IT CAN BE CHANGED TO FACILITATE
ENFORCEMENT AND TO RELIEVE THE UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON OUR
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DRIVERS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OR WOULD LIKE
TO." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "INCLUDED IN THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
LANGUAGE THAT DEALS WITH SHORT-TIME PARKING." COMMISSIONER
BROWN SAID, "YES. THANK YOU."
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS TO A WORKSHOP TO INVOLVE THE
PUBLIC." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION IS THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP. THIS
WOULD BE ON THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT." DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS STATED, "RIGHT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush suggested, March "12th". Commissioner McGinnis stated, "12th is good." Mayor
Bush then proposed the Workshop on Commercial Vehicles commence at six o'clock.
Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Six o'clock is good." With no objections, Mayor Bush
summarized, "Six o'clock, [Thursday], March the 12th (2009)."
REGULAR
603. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Direction From The City Commission Regarding The Funding Level For A
July 4 Celebration Of Freedom/City Of Winter Springs 50th Anniversary On July 4, 2009
At Central Winds Park.
With further discussion continued, Commissioner Bonner suggested, "We are going to advertise
this as well as we have advertised any of our other festivals."
Commissioner Bonner asked how many service organizations there were? Mr. Carson
responded, "We certainly don't want to leave anybody out -and that is certainly not our
intention, so, will approach everybody from a list and word of mouth."
Additionally, Commissioner Bonner stated, "It just occurs to me that we want to make sure that
all service organizations are offered the opportunity to participate in some way and perhaps some
of those service organizations in the spirit of having this Event, this celebration of our SOch
Anniversary; they may have some creative ideas and thinking relative to increasing the revenue
through their participation.
So, I would encourage you to exhaust all efforts to reach out and contact all service organizations
that might want to participate in our 50th Anniversary and possibly assist us in the revenue
shortfall that we are forecasting."
Commissioner Bonner then asked if the City's Homeowner's Association have been contacted
"To see if they are interested in assisting the City in this celebration from their respective
budgets?"
Mr. Pula responded, "We haven't contacted them directly, but what we've done in the past is
we've made space available so that they can rent aspace - at the site, if there's anything they
want to sell; if there's anything that they want to promote or advertise, and that's part of the
booth sale rental, that's part of the ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00) that we contribute to the
Event."
Mayor Bush asked how many VIP parking spots there were and suggested charging for these.
With comments, Mayor Bush suggested that Staff consider this and let the Commission know.
Further discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE EXPEND CITY FUNDS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
MONIES THAT AREN'T GENERATED FROM THE CARNIVAL FORA 4TH OF JULY
THAT INCLUDES `OPTION 3'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS CLARIFIED, "MY MOTION WAS THAT THE CITY
WOULD EXPEND FUNDS TO MEET THE GAP BETWEEN THAT MONEY
GENERATED BY THE CARNIVAL - IF THERE WAS A GAP, AND WHAT IT TOOK,
ACTUAL COSTS."
COMMISSIONER BONNER NOTED, "THE ASSUMPTION - OF THE MOTION IS
THAT THERE WILL BE A GAP, AND THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR
THE GAP OUT OF TAXPAYER REVENUES FROM THE GENERAL FUND, AND IT
IS MY ABSOLUTE BELIEF THAT UNLESS WE CHALLENGE~STAFF TO DO THIS
WITHOUT GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND, THAT IS THE WAY IT WILL TURN
OUT; SO, I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THIS."
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS SAID, "IN ORDER FOR CHUCK [PULA] AND CHRIS
[CARSON] TO MOVE FORWARD -THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF
GUARANTEE IN THEIR HAND THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY."
ADDITIONALLY, DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS NOTED, "THEY ARE ASKING FOR
COMMITMENT AND I KNOW STAFF WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO MAKE
IT REVENUE NEUTRAL -AND THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB! YOU GUYS
HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB! BUT -SOMEHOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
GUARANTEE."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID TO COMMISSIONER BONNER, "I FEEL VERY
COMFORTABLE IN YOUR ASSERTION THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE THE
ENTIRE AMOUNT FROM THIS BASED ON YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THE
CARNIVAL, AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IT WILL COST THE CITY A
MINIMAL AMOUNT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
608. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Review The Proposed Format For City Quarterly
Financial Statements And Provide Input As Deemed Appropriate.
With discussion on forecasts; Commissioner Bonner remarked, "I ask you to go back and reflect
on and perhaps look at what some other cities are doing in terms of producing a cash flow
statement." Manager Smith said, "Sure, I'll do it - be happy to."
Commissioner Bonner commented on a possible million dollar shortfall and suggested, "I look
forward to some contingency thinking beyond simple personnel treatments and how we would
address a million dollar hole in our wallet." Commissioner Bonner added, "Let's not get to the
end of March when we have our Workshop and you tell us at that time that that million dollar
hole is real or larger and - we better start thinking about it."
Manager Smith remarked, "Rest assured, we are not ignoring the issue by any stretch of the
imagination." _ _
Furthermore, Manager Smith stated, "As far as the Workshop you mentioned -when we look at
these numbers, these are for this year. We have got to start planning for our Budget for next
year."
Additionally, Manager Smith explained, "So, we're coming forward with projections for that
Meeting. I want to show you all where I think we're going to end up; or again on a preliminary
side, where I think we will be going into next year and we may face some very difficult, difficult
decisions. However, I do have some suggestions and we will talk about them, at that time."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
FEBRI?ARY 16, 2009
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requests That The City Commission Review This Agenda Item Related To A Possible
Charter Review.
Discussion followed on Ms. Lynn Tipton with the Florida League of Cities and other possible
Facilitators. Mayor Bush then said, "Commission, let us ask Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) to
investigate the Institute of Government, the [Florida] League of Cities..." Commissioner
McGinnis noted, "...Good, I support that..." Mayor Bush continued, "...And if Kevin (Smith)
has any other -contacts or whatever, to bring it back.
Is the Consensus then that we would go with an -unrelated Facilitator..." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "...Yes..." Mayor Bush added, "...In other words, outside Agency."
Commissioner Brown suggested, "I would just suggest that we stay clear of -City Managers or
former City Manager's to be that Facilitator." Mayor Bush said, "I would agree." No objections
were voiced.
Commissioner Bonner commented, "If we are going to go outside and buy a service, I would
suggest that we instruct the Manager to craft an RFP (Request for Proposal), very specific, goals,
roles, obligations, performances; put it out for Bid and let us see what we get." Mayor Bush
said, "Okay" and summarized that the Consensus was, "Eleven (11) Members; the different
locations and trying to take advantage of the schools if at all possible. The intro PowerPoint
presentation to kind of inform the citizens who do show up; an outside Facilitator."
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "I do not agree to an outside Facilitator."
With further comments on who could be the Facilitator, Mayor Bush noted, "This is an important
job and it needs to be done right and it needs to be done - I think the citizen's have to see this
that it is not a ploy by the Commission to get something through -that is why I think having it
arm's length is kind of important." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Then, RFP (Request for
Proposal) it. That is my Vote."
Mayor Bush summarized, "So, then we have agreed that the facilitation will be through an RFP
(Request for Proposal) which the Manager will prepare and you can bring back what we have
talked about. What is going to go in the RFP (Request for Proposal) -the number of Members;
the locations; kind of the format of the program. And do we need to decide on -whether or not
we will do a Special Election, or General Election or mail out -does that even need to be in
there?" Attorney Garganese stated, "No." Mayor Bush added, "So, we can handle that later."
Commissioner Bonner commented that "I think we are going to need to hammer out the scope of
work a little bit more than this very, very high level -perhaps the Manager, I don't know if
Kevin (Smith), if you feel you have enough direction to put together a draft, but I would think we
would want to see that draft before it goes out from a RFP (Request for Proposal) standpoint."
Further, Commissioner Bonner suggested, "This is a pretty complicated beast with lots of
Meetings with citizen's groups at various locations and has timelines and so on and so forth to be
put together for anyone to effectively respond to the RFP (Request for Proposal); they are going
to have to calculate the amount of time necessary and define resources and things of that nature."
Manager Smith stated, "I think I might want to bring it back to you to make sure that we are all
on the same page; that everybody feels comfortable with what we are doing."
Mayor Bush remarked, "We want Kevin (Smith) to concentrate on the Budget." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "Yes." No objections were voiced.
Next, Mayor Bush asked Manager Smith if he had enough information. Manager Smith
responded, "I think I do Mayor and again, I am bringing it back to you and - I can get your input
at that time, if you think there are changes that need to be made."
Regarding a time frame, Manager Smith noted, "I would not want to diminish the importance of
this process at all, but I would certainly underscore the Budget challenges against us." Mayor
Bush suggested, "Let us not put a time frame Kevin (Smith) on this at this point. I know he is
going to work on it." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I agree." No objections were voiced.
Deputy Mayor Krebs passed out a photograph of Lake Mary name badges and showed a City of
Winter Springs Seal. Mayor Bush mentioned City stationary and explained, "We have a Seal,
but there is no definition of it. In other words, what color it should be, should it be multi-colored,
etc., etc. I think that is something the Commission needs to do, just to solve this problem in the
future."
With further discussion, Manager Smith stated, "I believe that what we see on the screen. here is
just in fact that, the Seal. I would suggest, and I have always been a proponent that maybe we
need to establish - what I would call. a logo. I think they are two (2) different animals. The logo
would be more of a marketing type tool.. For example, Seminole County has a logo that I think
you all are familiar with, but that is not their Seal." Manager Smith added, "I agree that the Seal
needs to be consistent and the colors need to be established, but maybe just think about also
developing a City logo and marketing and branding the'City through that logo." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "Good." Mayor Bush added, "That is a good idea -that can be something
to be brought up."
Next, Mayor Bush mentioned that he had given Commissioner Krebs some information from a
presentation on water held in Longwood, and stated, "Oviedo gave, I thought, a very interesting
presentation on their water conservation and landscaping, and I know that Commissioner Krebs
is very interested in this."
Mayor Bush added, "They have an Ordinance on this which I think is pretty well done and I
would like to see the Commission at some point review this..." Commissioner McGinnis
remarked, "...I agree." Mayor Bush then suggested, "If everybody agrees, we would let
Commissioner Krebs take the lead on this?" Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "I am walking down
that path right now." No objections were voiced.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, EL~RIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 23, 209
REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Attorney And Office Of The City Manager And Parks And
Recreation Department Director
Present Information Regarding The Winter Springs Senior Center And The Winter
Springs Senior Center, Inc.
Commissioner Rick Brown suggested, "I would just want to make sure that we are covered from
a liability perspective, since it is a separate organization."
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs commented on costs and the Senior Center and the Senior
organization and suggested this relationship needed to be memorialized. Attorney Garganese
agreed and said, "How do you want this relationship to work going forward? Are we going to
have separate membership events where - it is the Winter Springs Senior Center, Inc.
membership events at that facility; are we going to have general open public events; is it going to
be a hybrid of the two (2); is it going to be one or the other? How do you -want to structure
that?"
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested, "I want to sell my City and one of the things I want to sell is my
Senior Center. And when somebody asks me questions or wants to move in -to the City and
says what are the benefits and how do I get those benefits, we need something that really
thoroughly explains without question, how to go about that."
Manager Smith suggested, "I think I am hearing the Commission say that we just need to
memorialize all the things we talked about -and let Anthony (Garganese) and Staff come back to
you with that Agreement at a future Meeting and give you a chance to take a look at it and we
could obviously use this 1995 document as a guide; plus the other things that we have talked
about tonight. That would be my recommendation Mayor."
"I WOULD LIKE TO TURN WHAT THE CITY MANAGER JUST SUGGESTED INTO
A MOTION AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER, CITY
ATTORNEY, AND STAFF WERE TO MEMORIALIZE THE AGREEMENTS AND
COME TO A COMMON UNDERSTANDING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "AND BRING IT BACK FOR OUR REVIEW."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE
ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION HELD PRIOR TO THIS REGULAR MEETING WAS
HEARD NEXT. THE REST OF THE AGENDA FOLLOWS, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
Manager Smith said, "I would like to respond to those Property Owners with the action you have
taken, if you think that is appropriate?" Mayor Bush stated, "That is a good idea."
CONSENT
203. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Approve The Magnolia Park Design Proposal.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Departments on
whether this could be completed within four (4) weeks.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested to Mr. Lockcuff, "However you can make it happen, in four (4)
weeks time." Mr. Lockcuff added, "We plan on making it happen." Deputy Mayor Krebs then
explained, "This was really, really important to us, to get it done immediately." Manager Smith
added, "It is and as Kip (Lockcuff) mentioned, we'll get it done."
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
Community Development Department -Urban Beautification Services Division
Requesting Authorization For The City To Enter Into A Contract Agreement With
Winding Hollow H.O ~. (Homeowner's Association) For The Installation Of Up To Thirty-
Four (34) Decorative Street Signs Located Throughout The Winding Hollow Subdivision.
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE ABILITY - FOR THE HOMEOWNER'S
ASSOCIATION TO PURCHASE A SET QUANTITY, NOT LESS THAN THREE (3)
ADDITIONAL SIGNS AND SIGN POLES TO BE KEPT IN INVENTORY FOR
REPLACEMENT IF NEEDED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MR. RICHART SPOKE OF STANDARDIZING THE SIGNS AND QUOTES.
FURTHER DISCUSSION ENSUED ON THE SIGNS; VENDORS; STANDARDS; AND
COMPETITION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Krebs then suggested, "I do think that Steve (Richart) needs direction so that he
knows what the Policy is of this Commission as to, in the future should other communities come
forward and want to do this that he has something to go on."
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Richart, "What is the Policy?" Mr. Richart stated, "We have always
gone and Bid all of our projects -when we do them."
Mayor Bush noted, "The Policy is that we Bid them. Now, there is no Policy on restricting it to
just two (2) options?" Commissioner Sally McGinnis remarked, "Correct."
Furthermore, Mayor Bush said, "Let's give Kevin (Smith) and Steve (Richart) a chance to come
back with something on this."
Mayor Bush asked, "Everybody in agreement with that?" Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "I agree
to that." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Bonner nodded. No objections
were noted.
REPORTS
403. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
Manager Smith mentioned he wanted the Commission to know that "We are working on the `Did
you know' project. Hope to have that back to you in very short order."
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REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs spoke of getting with the Agencies related to the Conservation Easement.
Manager Smith said, "I will have to get back to you."
Much discussion ensued on options, partnering, and getting the Owner to the table.
Mayor Bush said, "I think the Commission has asked the Manager, not this one, but the previous
one, to come back with some more information; so -Anthony (Garganese) just said that; so I
think Kevin (Smith) needs to do that. Manager Smith stated, "And he will."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Three - Garv Bonner
Commissioner Bonner also noted that he enjoyed the Winter Springs Babe Ruth Event and
complimented the great turn-out from the entire City Commission, the City Manager. and the
Parks and Recreation Department.
Furthermore, Commissioner Bonner added, "A great showing for our community, so, my hat is
off to you all."
C[~'Y OF WINTER SPRINGS. E'LORIDA
MINUTES
COMMUNITY VISIONING WORKSHOP
FEBRUARY 26, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
The Community Visioning Workshop of Thursday, February 26, 2009 was called to Order by
Mayor John F. Bush at approximately 6:12 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
_ C[TY COMMISSI01~
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 9, 2009
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2010 Budget
Calendar.
Commissioner Gary Bonner said to City Manager Kevin L. Smith, "During that time frame, that
ten (10) day window from the 17th to the 27th, is it possible there would be an opportunity in
there for us to have Public Input into the process, maybe even -some form of Workshop or
something beyond just the normal Commission Meetings?"
Manager Smith remarked, "We could Commissioner, but I think and I hope that at that point we
would have had sufficient Commission input, sufficient Public Input and it would be more
perfunctory at that point, but an answer to your question is `Yes'."
Furthermore, Commissioner Bonner added, "I certainly hope that is the outcome."
CONSENT
203. Office Of The City Manager And Police Department
Requesting City Commission Approval Of Resolution No. (Number) 2009-19 And
Resolution No. (Number) 2009-22 To Update City's Personnel Policies Regarding Sworn
Police Officers Retirement Commemorative Service Awards.
Mayor Bush asked, "Is it taxable?" Manager Smith responded, "We will research that question
and if it is taxable, taxes will be withheld."
CONSENT
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests Approval To Redirect The $50,000.00 Budgeted In The General Fund For The
Bear Creek Bridge To The Trotwood Improvement Fund Because Park Impact Fees Have
Not Materialized.
With discussion, Staff offered to further review the related costs. Discussion followed on safety
concerns; the timeline; and the Splash Park.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT `204' AS WRITTEN AS PART OF
THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"MY MOTION IS TO PROVIDE THE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND
STAFF -BRING BACK A PLAN TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF THE BRIDGE. AT
LEAST IDENTIFY -ITS' FUNDING LEVEL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BONNER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER SMITH ASKED, "IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT DONE
IMMEDIATELY OR WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE DISCUSSED DURING THE
UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESS?"
COMMISSIONER BONNER NOTED, "I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEING
DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE BUT I DO NOT WANT YEARS TO GO
BY." MANAGER SMITH STATED, "NOR DO L"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The Mayor
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission Receive A Presentation From Tara Hormell With The
Children's Cabinet Of Seminole County.
Commissioner Bonner recommended to Manager Smith, "Make sure that this organization is on
this Website in the Community Awareness section." Manager Smith stated, "Yes, Sir."
Mayor Bush suggested, "What about sending one of our staff members to their meetings?
Would that be appropriate, do you think Commissioners?" Commissioner Rick Brown stated,
"Absolutely." No objections were voiced.
Furthermore, Mayor Bush then said, "Maybe someone in Parks and Recreation, since that is
kids..." Comnssioner Sally McGinnis noted, "...That would be great." Mayor Bush added,
"Why don't you take a look at it Kevin (Smith) and get back to the Commission with a
recommendation?" Mat}ager Smith responded by saying, "Be happy to do that Mayor."
REPORTS
403. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush explained a proposal he had and stated, "With what is going on in our schools, and
the fact that we all recognize the quality of our schools is important to our community, I would
like to propose that we cover the cost of the School Resource Officers. These are our
Policemen."
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs suggested, "Maybe this is something we
should look at during Budget?" Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "You are talking about Winter
Springs' schools -that are in Winter Springs, because we have Winter Springs students that go to
other schools outside of Winter Springs."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Before I could support that, I would want to know how that
compares with all the other needs. Commissioner McGinnis then said, "I would like to see a
complete analysis of what a Resource Officer does." Additionally, Commissioner McGinnis
commented, "I need to be sold that that is a real priority; that it is really important."
Discussion ensued on assistance at schools and what a School Resource Officer does.
Manager Smith stated, "Mayor, if it is the direction of the Commission, we can certainly take a
look at this during the Budget process, and see what our options are."
Mayor Bush remarked, "My recommendation would be for one (1) year only, hopefully by then,
the State Legislature will -help the schools out." Mayor Bush added, "I know that we have
students in Winter Springs that attend other schools, but maybe if we set the standard here, the
other cities and the County will step up and do something too -and maybe they won't; but then
why let that keep us from doing the right thing?"
Mayor Bush then asked, "Commissioners, do you want to move forward with this or do you want
to shelve it?" Deputy Mayor Krebs said, "I think we should look at it during Budget. I think you
should put it on the list."
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT THAT ON
THE LIST." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat One -Jean Hovey
Commissioner Hovey announced that next Wednesday, March 18th, 2009, the Florida Parent-
Teacher Association is having a rally on the steps of the Capitol. Commissioner Hovey
continued, "I want to thank Kevin Smith and Chuck Pula for the use of the parking facilities at
Central Winds Park."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown stated, "A couple of weeks ago, Anjie Federici who runs the Farmer's
Market came here to speak to us, and at the time we looked at various Websites and what other
cities were doing; and I had some off-line conversations with the City Manager. I would like the
Commission to think about this.
I am wondering if we wouldn't be better served by this Farmer's Market, which really is a way
to promote community and we all know all the good reasons for doing it; if the City didn't take it
over, contract back Anjie (Federici) to run it, bring it here to the parking lot of City Hall on a
Saturday where there would be ample parking. It would be very visible, they would be covered
under our insurance, and it would still be run and we would probably attract the type of Vendors
that need to be attracted.
We could have a hand in how it is run. We would have a hand in the type of Vendors we want to
see there, there wouldn't be any question about it; and we could put Anjie (Federici) on a
percentage or whatever kind of contract. I am sure that the City Manager and City Attorney
could come up with some way of making sure she is remunerated for her work in running it. But
it would put the City in the driver's seat instead of answering questions or funneling requests as
to how we support this."
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "Commissioner Brown, I like your idea. I had thought previously,
actually after the set-up at Central Winds; I really did think about that very first presentation that
we had about the Farmer's Market and how well it could be, but that more than likely, we, the
City, would have to be involved in it. I never thought about contracting it back, that thought
never occurred to me, but I would like to think about that, and I don't know how we would talk
about it, unless we have some kind of a meeting where we all can get together and talk about it."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT KEVIN (SMITH) PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR
US TO LOOK AT AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO HELP HIM WORK ON THAT WITH
ANJIE (FEDERICI); IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER SMITH REMARKED, "WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THIS ITEM IN
OPTIONS, AND WE HAD PLANNED TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT
MEETING. IT'S ON OUR TICKLER LIST, WE HAD HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS
PREVIOUSLY ABOUT IT AS A COMMISSION AND - I HAD FELT IT WAS
PRUDENT TO BRING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND IT WAS AGAIN, PLANNED
FOR THE NEXT MEETING."
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH
RANDY (STEVENSON) ABOUT IT AS WELL."
MR. RANDY STEVENSON, ASLA, AICP, DIRECTOR, COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REMARKED, "WE ARE SCHEDULING AN
AGENDA ITEM FOR YOUR MARCH 23RD, (2009) MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS; TO
DISCUSS HOW INVOLVED THE CITY WANTS TO BE; TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL
LOCATIONS AND SO FORTH, SO THAT MAY BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE
TIME TO DELVE INTO THIS."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SUGGESTED, "THAT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE A GOOD
WAY TO GO -AND ALSO, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT SOME KIND OF A TIME
FRAME IN THIS FOR -PERIODIC EVALUATIONS."
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS AGREED AND SAID, "YES."
MANAGER SMITH SAID, "ABSOLUTELY -ALL THE APPROPRIATE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT. I KNOW ANTHONY (GARGANESE) WOULD
NOT LET US GET BY WITHOUT DOING THAT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Brown said to Manager Smith, "I think the conversation actually happened before
you took the helm. There was a lot of talk about generating, and you and I actually talked about
this earlier today even -about putting together an -Economic Development entity, a public
relations person, that kind of thing. But, as I was thinking that through today, there was also in-
depth conversation about developing a how to do business with Winter Springs document for
Developers.
I really believe that now is the time to start looking at how we do those things that we had talked
about; so, that when the economic switch does get thrown, we are not caught behind the curve. I
think we are going to have to be ready to compete and the better we can position ourselves today,
I think the more ready we will be when the opportunity comes to vie for the development dollars
that will be coming in."
Manager Smith said, "Be happy to bring something back to you with some options and
suggestions for proceeding."
As there were no objections, Mayor Bush stated, "We have Consensus on that."
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Three -Gary Bonner
Commissioner Bonner said, "I want to compliment the Staff again for the outstanding
Community Visioning Workshop that we had on the 26th (of February). That was really just very
well done, and pleasantly very well attended. And that's just a step in the right direction for us
as a City, so thank you Staff.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs said, "I too wanted to say how much I enjoyed that Community
Visioning."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "What made me feel good is knowing that I am at least
on the right track, or that we are on the right track. We are moving in the right direction and -
maybe that is also a reason people don't come. I have heard from a - couple of constituents -
`we like the way everything is going, so that's why we don't bother'. But Mayor, you are right,
communication could be better and really maybe we start communicating better in the `Insider' -
just having an informational section where people know to look; let us see what is going on, and
we start, they will know, that is only one of the places."
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Deputy Mayor Krebs then commented on a meeting she attended in Oviedo and said, "We would
like to bring Oviedo here to give you a presentation of what they are doing with their Ordinance
that they have created for conservation and watering and plants and things like that."
Next, Deputy Mayor Krebs also mentioned that she recently attended a Water Summit.
Deputy Mayor Krebs then stated, "Back to the Visioning, do you think that we should do
something like that Visioning with businesses?" Commissioner Brown said, "Yes."
Continuing, Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "I think we should. I think we should have Visioning
for businesses and hear from them what they need from us, as well as what they like about
Winter Springs - and I think it would help get us on the track with businesses and new
development."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AT SOME FUTURE DATE, WE
SHOULD HAVE A TIME, BUT THAT WE HAVE A VISIONING FOR BUSINESSES."
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "COMMISSIONER, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA, I THINK
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT DO IT
AGAIN."
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS CONTINUED, "IF THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION
WISHES, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO IT THAT
WAY, BUT - IF YOU DO, I AM FINE WITH THAT. I JUST WANT US TO HAVE A
VISIONING."
FURTHERMORE, DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS STATED, "I WILL MAKE A MOTION
THAT WE HAVE A BUSINESS VISIONING PROCESS USING THE FLORIDA
INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT."
MANAGER SMITH NOTED, "I WAS GOING TO ASK, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU
WOULDN'T MIND, CONSIDER MAKING THE MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY
MANAGER TO CONTACT MS. (MARILYN) GROTTY AND PURSUE THE
AVAILABILITY AND FEASIBILITY AND BRING IT BACK..."
CONTINUING WITH HER MOTION, DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS ADDED, "...BRING
BACK THE DATES, THE AVAILABLE DATES AND A PLAN TO GET THAT OUT TO
THE BUSINESSES." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Mayor Bush said, "I want to follow up on one of Commissioner Krebs' recommendations.
Commissioner, on your recommendation about the water conservation from Oviedo - it is their
turn to host us, and I have talked to their Mayor. I have talked to a couple of their
Councilmembers. They are going to do that. Why don't we ask them to get on the stick and let
that be part of the program?" Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "That is a good idea." Mayor Bush
added, "I think us going over there is better than asking them to come here." Deputy Mayor
Krebs said, "That is a good idea. Well, they would be happy to come here, believe me."
Furthermore, Mayor Bush stated, "I think it sits better if we go there, and especially under the
circumstances. It is their turn to host the get-together. So, Kevin (Smithj, remind me - I will
send a letter over to their Mayor and make sure we copy their Councilmember's." Manager
Smith remarked, "Yes, Sir."
Commissioner Hovey added, "Regarding our communication problem, the Police Department
has a monthly meeting with citizens, the Citizens Advisory [Committee] group, and they have all
of the Homeowners' Associations and others on a list -that they send out information to. Why
can't we add on to that and send out `Did You Know' -the City is X, Y and Z or whatever.
They have got all of it. I am sure they would share with us."
Mayor Bush then said, "I think that is a good idea, but how is it written so that it gets the point
over? You cannot hit people with paragraph upon paragraph. They are not going to read it. It
has got to be bullets." Mayor Bush added, "I think that goes along with what we have asked
Kevin (Smith) to do."
Commissioner Bonner commented, "I~1ow that the Manager is attending that meeting, which is a
refreshing change, there may be an opportunity during `Remarks', if it is not too long, to just sort
of hit on some highlights for the benefit of that audience who may not have necessarily attended
this meeting, although I know that some Homeowner Association leaders do attend both."
Mayor Bush added, "On the other hand, we don't want to take away from what the Police
Department is doing with that meeting either, because it has been very successful."
Manager Smith explained, "I appreciate the Chief's invitation. The Chief and I have had a
conversation about this Mayor - he has assured me that I am not intruding, that it is a useful
addition to the meeting -that was my plan, as Commissioner Bonner said; to use that forum; for
example, last time I spoke about the upconung Community Visioning Workshop."
Chief Brunelle stated, "Most definitely, it's a welcome and refreshing time for that CAC (Citizen
Advisory Committee) to have the City Manager attending that, and I actually, we had had some
discussions about him attending it, and possibly even realigning it and adjusting it so it's aCity-
type function where not only the Police Department is available but the Department Heads -
other City Staff are available for it to do the same type of format we're doing. The only thing
that we desire, from the Police Department to make sure happens here, that we don't tuns it into a
political event."
Manager Smith added, "It's a constructive exchange of information now, and we would like it to
continue to be -they do a great job!"
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department -Urban Beautification Division
Requesting That The City Commission Review Options For An Economic Programmable
Message Center Located At The Front Of City Hall.
In conclusion, Mayor Bush asked, "Where do we go from here?" Manager Smith stated, "If it
would be your desire Commissioners, we could bring it back during the Budget process."
Commissioner Brown noted, "Thank you." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." Mayor
Bush then asked, "Consensus on bringing it back as a Budget Item?" Commissioner McGinnis
and Commissioner Bonner said, "Yes." No objections were voiced. Mayor Bush added, "No
one disagrees." Furthermore, Mayor Bush stated, "And Anthony (Garganese) will check out the
legal -for us."
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Review The Draft "Did You Know" Information And
Provide Input And Direction As Deemed Appropriate.
With further comments, Mayor Bush stated, "Kevin (Smith), dovou have enough information
from the comments to move forward on this?" Manager Smith stated, "Yes, I do. Could I
briefly just give kudos - to Staff. They did a great job on this and I have to thank them."
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Review The Draft "Did You Know" Information And
Provide Input And Direction As Deemed Appropriate.
Manager Smith asked, "Would you all be of the mindset that I prepare a more professional
looking brochure and have it professionally printed and incur those costs or something we do in-
house?" Commissioner Bonner noted, "I would suggest another intern be explored before you
go out looking at a graphic artist." Manager Smith then spoke about printing costs.
Mayor Bush suggested, "In-house." No objections were noted.
REGULAR
603. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Establish A Date And Time For A Workshop To
Discuss The Form-Based Code Currently Used In The Town Center.
The date of Monday, May 18th, 2009 was suggested for this Workshop.
Commissioner :Bonner noted, "I am fine with the 18th [of May 2009]." No objections were
noted. 6:00 p.m. was suggested as the start time for the May 18th, 2009 Workshop.
In other City business, Mayor Bush spoke of a letter written a couple of years ago to annex
enclaves in the City and said that in recent discussions with Seminole County, they suggested
sending a letter. Mayor Bush said to the City Commission, "I would like for us to move forward
on this."
Mayor Bush added, "I think we ask them for it." Deputy Mayor Krebs and Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "I agree."
"I MOVE THAT WE GO BACK AND RE-VISIT THIS WITH THE COUNTY
COMMISSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD BE THAT WE
WRITE A LETTER OFFICIALLY TO THE COUNTY CHAIRMAN REQUESTING
THE ANNEXATION OF ALL ENCLAVES WITHIN THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
AND YOU CAN OUTLINE THOSE LIKE YOU DID BEFORE."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "THAT IS MY MOTION. SO MOVED."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER SMITH INQUIRED, "IS THAT A LETTER FROM YOU MAYOR?"
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "YES." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "YES..."
MAYOR BUSH THEN NOTED, "...AND IT GOES TO [CHAIRMAN] DALLARL"
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "AND COPIES TO ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
C[T'Y COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MARCH 12, 2009
REGULAR
600. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requesting Consideration By The City Commission To Re-Evaluate The Commercial
Vehicle Ordinance Section 20-434. As Directed At The February 9, 2009 Commission
Meeting.
Next, Mayor Bush suggested to Manager Smith, "Getting this on the Agenda for a change at our
next Meeting?" Manager Smith stated, "Yes, Sir." Mayor Bush added, "Or as soon as we can
get it." Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "Yes, as soon as we can." Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked,
"It is a Consensus for next Meeting."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese explained, "We are going to need to take that to the Land
Planning Agency because it is in the Zoning District Regulations; so, they would have to make a
recommendation..." Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "...Okay...." Attorney Garganese
continued, "... So, I will prepare the Ordinance. We will get it on the next LPA (Local Planning
Agency) Agenda and hopefully you will see it soon thereafter."
C~ I'Y OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MARCH 21, 2009
Continuing, Ms. Crotty explained, "All of the information that you generate will come back to
you in a Report. Staff will do some work on it and it will then come back to you at some point as
part of a work program for you all to make decisions and hopefully to actually relate it to your
Budget; because the whole purpose of this is to give input to Staff in their preparing the Budget
for next Fiscal Year, to understand where your Commission wants to go and what they are
willing to support so that you can make a decision."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 23, 2009
REPORTS
404. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
Manager Smith also mentioned that "An organization by the name of `RelocateAmerica' has
informed us that Winter Springs has been nominated for inclusion in their top 100 best places to
live program. Quite frankly, I would like to look into this organization." Mr. Randy Stevenson,
ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department stated, "We are currently looking
into that." Furthermore, Mr. Stevenson added, "We should have an answer tomorrow."
Mayor Bush suggested, "Would that be something we should maybe talk to some of the local
Realtors about?" Mr. Stevenson responded, "Right." Mayor Bush then said to the City
Commission, "If their finding is that this is legitimate, you have no problem with the City
participating?" Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "None." No objections were voiced.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One -Jean
Mr. Fields noted, "The ballots are due this Friday and the results will be on the April 13th, [2009]
Agenda."
Mayor Bush mentioned an email from a resident who didn't seem to be aware of a Straw Ballot
and stated, "I think I sent that on to Kevin (Smith) and asked him to respond to it."
Manager Smith responded, "We'll look into that."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Three -Gary Bonner
Commissioner Gary Bonner remarked, "I want to go ahead and thank the Manager for the
handling of the Trotwood Park matter and the concerns that have been expressed by resident, Mr.
Chuck Jenkins, and I thank you for communicating with him, and I compliment you on your
thorough response that you and your team put together. So, I have no doubt that we're working
in the right direction to address our citizens' concerns and thank you."
Mr. Bonner commented on the City's Tree Removal Policy and stated, "The correspondence that
I put forward to you, your staff did an excellent job on responding to that. I would like to
recognize Steven (Richart) for his work in that regard, and on behalf of my fellow
Commissioners, just to let you know, I had a constituent come forward who lives in my district,
had a mature tree that sustained damage during -one of the hurricanes -and has been declining
in health from their interpretation over some time. It is a mature tree, quite large in size, and so
if you go through the process of removing the tree, even though it's declining in health, it is still
alive.
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner suggested, "I also brought forward a suggestion that I think
might be an idea that has some merit that I am going to ask Staff to work further on, and that idea
was -what if the citizen, since they didn't want to put the trees back on their own property, what
if they gave the trees to the City, or gave the benefit of purchasing power for the trees to the City
and then the City could decide to place those trees somewhere else in the City and benefit and
maintain our Tree City status; maintain or grow the tree canopy, but not necessarily force the
resident to place the trees back on to their property, since that's not really what they wanted to do
and/or subsequently turn around and fine them for violating the current Policy."
Commissioner Bonner noted, "Kevin (Smith) and his Staff are doing a great job of evolving the
response to that."
Manager Smith said, "It probably would be most appropriate if we did bring this item back to
you for consideration of the comments that you have made, for education of yourself and
Commissioner Hovey, and maybe a refresher course for the balance of the Commission to talk
about all these issues."
Commissioner Bonner said, "And I am fine with that; absolutely, I don't want to take up the time
and attention of the Commission tonight, but certainly the more I dug into this, the more I
learned, it is a classic `Where is the information'; `How are we communicating it to our folks'.
We are all addressing communication as we know, `What are the Policies'; `How can I represent
the City Policies out to the public having that knowledge myself ;and would there be some
additional options available to citizens to solve the problem and not necessarily just put them in
penalty box?" Commissioner Bonner then said, "I look forward to that at a future Commission
Meeting." Manager Smith stated, "We'd be happy to do it."
Next, Commissioner Bonner commented on the Town Center and suggested a possible "Ad Hoc
Committee Task Force or Review Committee to possibly evaluate all of the Town Center things
that we are about to address and provide some additional feedback and citizen input into the
entire Town Center plan and its direction."
Manager Smith remarked, "We were going to bring back the presentation from Randy
(Stevenson) to educate the Commission. My thought at that point in time was not to solicit input
from the citizens, however, it could be a good opportunity if you all desire to do both at the same
time, or we could do a step process where we have the Commission hear from Randy
(Stevenson) first and then bring it to a next citizen input type process." Commissioner Bonner
added, "When we address that as a Commission for the benefit of my peers, that it may be a time
to discuss whether or not we want to bring additional citizen participation and dialogue into the
process."
Additionally, Commissioner Bonner stated, "One of the issues we dealt with on the Workshop
this past weekend, centered in the area of Economic Development; so, another thing I want to
float out there for the Commission's thought as we go into the Budget cycle, and for you the
Manager, as we'go into the Budget cycle, is if the time has come fors to have some form of
dedicated representation on City Staff whose focus is exclusively Economic Development - so, I
just want to make sure we keep that on the forefront." Manager Smith said, "I can assure you it
is."
Commissioner Bonner said, "I want to compliment Staff -terrific Workshop this past weekend.
Wonderful to be able to address all the vision statements of our community" and Conunissioner
Bonner mentioned the final comments that Mayor Bush, Commissioner Jean Hovey and
Commissioner McGinnis needed to submit.
Manager Smith said, "Ms. (Marilyn) Crotty was going to bring back the information to me.
Then, I'll disseminate it to Commissioners Hovey, McGinnis and the Mayor for their Votes; and
then back to Ms. Crotty for final compilation of the Report."
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "We need to discuss a date for a joint Oviedo-Winter Springs Meeting
between their Council and our Commission. This will be hosted by Oviedo in May or June."
Further comments followed on possible dates for a joint Oviedo-Winter Springs Meeting and the
dates agreed upon were: Tuesday, May 19`h, 2009; Monday, June lst, 2009; and Tuesday, June
2"d, 2009."
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602. Community Development Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Wish To Update The City Commission Regarding Options For A Farmer's Market In The
City Of Winter Springs.
Mr. Stevenson added, "One of the things that Staff would also request direction in, in the make-
up of this, if you're looking at some of the Policies and Procedures there; they're very succinctly
defined what is allowed, they even give it a certain, only so much can be this type of use.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK
WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
FROM LOCATION TO RULES OF OPERATION TO CONTRACT OPERATION TO A
LIST OF ACCEPTED AND UNACCEPTED -VENDORS AND ADVERTISING AND
THE ADVERTISING INVESTMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THE
CITY IN DOLLARS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS ASKED, "WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE PRICE OF
INVESTMENT FOR FLAGS?" COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED, "YES -COME
BACK IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AS TO WHAT THEY WANT FOR ADVERTISING."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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603. Office Of The City Manager
Related To Holding A Business Community Visioning Workshop; Select A Date For This
Meeting And Give Approval To The City Manager To Sign A Contract With The Florida
Institute Of Government As The Facilitator For This Business Community Visioning
Workshop.
Discussion ensued on using a different facilitator for this Business Community Visioning
Workshop.
Discussion then ensued on possible dates for this Business Community Visioning Workshop.
Deputy Mayor Krebs suggested the "9th" of June. Commissioner Brown agreed and stated,
"Yes." Mayor Bush summarized, "June the 9th?" No objections were voiced. Furthermore,
Mayor Bush remarked, "June the 9th - 7:00 p.m. Everybody okay with that?" Deputy Mayor
Krebs stated, "Perfect." Commissioner Brown and Commissioner Hovey said, "Yes."
CITY OFWINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MARCH 30, 2009
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Receive A Budget Overview Presentation And
Discuss The Groundwork For The Fiscal Year 2009-2010 Budget Process.
Commissioner Gary Bonner stated, "Thanks for the outline, Kevin (Smith). It really puts it all in
context." Continuing, Commissioner Bonner remarked, "When do you want to come back to us
at the next Workshop and start talking about some of these details? So, when do you envision us
getting together?" Manager Smith responded by saying, "Thirty (30) days would be my
recommendation."
Furthermore, Commissioner Bonner said to Manager Smith, "Within thirty (30) days, what is
your approach to prepare for our next Workshop?"
Manager Smith responded by saying, "What I'm going to do is fine tune these numbers."
Manager Smith added, "I'm hopeful these numbers get better. And, as we get more information,
we can fine tune them." Furthermore, Manager Smith stated, "But, what we're also going to be
doing that I can control is we'll have a better indication of what this operating number is going to
look like through our Zero-Based Budgeting. I am hopeful that we get significant savings there."
Commissioner Bonner commented on the Zero-Based Budgeting and asked, "Will we be seeing
that sort of detail in this thirty (30) day, time frame?" Manager Smith stated, "That is the plan."
Commissioner Bonner said to Manager Smith, "I think you are taking the right approach and that
the by-product of this exercise is really going to give us, not only the detail, but the ability to
prioritize; and I thank you and the Staff in advance because these will be difficult decisions; but
at least we will have all of the detail to make the best possible decision. Thank you."
Mayor Bush noted, "I will add to that - we just saw more information now than we have seen..."
Commissioner Brown added, "...This has probably been the most informative fifteen (15)
minutes I think we have had in the past couple of years..." Mayor Bush continued, "...So, it
kind of goes with Kevin's (Smith) efforts to make the Budget transparent and make it obvious
and understandable. That is the main thing, to make it understandable."
Mayor Bush mentioned that he and Manager Smith met with a representative from City State
Technologies, Inc., which had just been admitted to the UCF (University of Central Florida)
Incubator, and noted, "1 asked Kevin (Smith) - to see if we could at some point bring this to the
Commission." Manager Smith remarked, "It's definitely worth looking into and I am doing so
and I will come back to you all at the appropriate time." Mayor Bush added, "It goes along with
what Kevin (Smith) has been saying about making the Budget transparent — and understandable."
Furthermore, Manager Smith stated, "And regardless if we utilize this gentleman's services or
not, this is still incumbent upon us to do something of this type to get this information out on the
Web so, our citizens can understand it." Mayor Bush noted some information from the
company and stated, "I will leave this with the Clerk if anybody wants to take a look at it."
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600. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Review The Recommendations Of The Local
Planning Agency Related To The Draft Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR) -Based
Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Provide Comment, And Give Direction On Desired
Revisions.
Next, Mayor Bush commented on a recent meeting that he and Manager Smith had related to a
Seminole County High School Recycling Program and said, "Kevin (Smith) has done a lot of
work since then. He will — update you all on this, one -on -one, when he has a chance."
CITY OF WIN1"ER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 13, ?009
REPORTS
405. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
City Manager Kevin. L. Smith spoke of the Business Community Visioning Workshop scheduled
for the evening of Tuesday, June 9`}', 2009 and said to the City Commission, "You have also
given me the authority to proceed to advertise that Workshop which we were going to do
similarly to the way we advertised our Community Visioning Workshop. With that in mind, we
placed - a Utility Bill stuffer in the Water Bills to go out to all the residents."
Manager Smith added that they would use the Business Tax Receipts list anc~ "Send out a post
card to all the businesses; anal I can do that in black and white for about four hundred and eighty
dollars ($480.00). I just wanted to get the Commission's thought on that before l proceeded."
Manager Smith noted, "If there are no concerns or issues, I will proceed with that." Deputy
Mayor Joanne M. Krebs stated, "I am fine with. that." Mayor Bush summarized., "Everybody
okay with it?" Commissioner Jean Hovey also agreed. No objections were voiced.
Next, Manager Smith commented on an issue related to Bonds and Debt Service coverage and
noted, "From along-term standpoint, I am in the process of putting in mechanisms that I -know
are appropriate to address this, from an ongoing standpoint -for example, a periodic review
during the Budget process to see our status six (6) months into the year, as opposed to examining
our status at the end of the year. There are other mechanisms that I plan to put into place and I
will share those with the Commission at a later date."
Deputy Mayor Krebs said to Manager Smith, "Inherently, we just seem to have opportunities for
processes that just haven't taken place and it is really, really important that we create these
processes, so that if something breaks, we go back and fix that." Manager Smith noted, "I am."
Mayor Bush stated, "I think we should have a Motion to approve the Manager's
recommendation."
"I MAKE THAT MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
RELATED TO THE MOTION, MANAGER SMITH EXPLAINED IT AS, "REDUCING
THE ADMINISTRATIVE TRANSFER FROM THE UTILITY FUND TO THE
GENERAL FUND BY TWO HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
($210,000.00)."
MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE THAT IT
PAYS IT BACK TO..." MANAGER SMITH REMARKED, "...I WOULD ADVISE
THAT WE NOT DO THAT AT THIS POINT AND I WILL REVIEW THAT AS PART
OF THE BUDGET PROCESS; IF THAT IS THE COMMISSION'S DESIRE, AND
BRING IT BACK."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ASKED MANAGER SMITH, "COULD YOU
SUMMARIZE THIS DISCUSSION IN WRITING FOR US." MANAGER SMITH
RESPONDED, "I CERTAINLY CAN."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Next, Commissioner McGinnis mentioned a City of Cocoa brochure. With discussion, Mayor
Bush suggested a "Motion to direct Manager to research this."
"I SO MOVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ESTABLISH
SOME KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP OR A DIALOGUE WITH THIS REAL ESTATE
JOURNAL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS; THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
WE ARE LOOKING AT DOWN THE LINE. WHAT DO THEY WANT? HOW DOES
IT WORK?"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion followed on LYNX service.
Commissioner McGinnis asked how we let people know about this and suggested a
Memorandum be sent to Homeowner's Association. Manager Smith said, "We could include it
in a Press Release through our HOA (Homeowner's Association) dissemination list on email, if
that is the desire of the Commission?" Commissioner McGinnis also thought some brief
information could be included in City Utility Bills. Discussion.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs commented that moving the CAC (Citizen Advisory Committee) Meeting
to the Senior Center was a great idea, and added, "Thank you for moving it there."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
_300. Office Of Mayor John F. Bush
Requesting The City Commission To Receive A Presentation From Ms. Sarah L. Werden,
With The University Of Central Florida Athletic Association, Inc., On The Winter Springs
Hometown Appreciation Day At The University of Central Florida.
Ms. Sarah Werdon addressed the City Commission on a Winter Springs Hometown Appreciation
Day Event set for May 16t", 2009.
With discussion, Ms. Werdon said to Mayor Bush, "Previously when we met, you had mentioned
that we could possibly do something on the Website; maybe even something on the Water Bill,
find businesses in the City that could sponsor such groups as the Police Department." Mayor
Bush added, "You need to work with the Manager on that and he will do all that he can for what
you are asking."
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA AS INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEM "103"
Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding The July 4 Celebration Of
Freedom/50`" Anniversary.
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "I do think Chuck (Pula), I don't know if you spoke with any of the
beer concessionaires but I do think an agreement where we get some type of -something out of
it, to help pay for the costs of the event we will be putting on." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "I
would really like to look at some other creative parking or something like that."
With further discussion, Commissioner Bonner stated, "I don't think we have seen a
comprehensive list of all the plans or divisions and thought that area non-profit organizations
might also be able to participate."
Mayor Bush asked if churches have been contacted regarding helping with the children's area?
With further discussion, Mr. Pula stated, "We'll be glad to look at the parking; we'll be glad to
review the beer -and any other things you can suggest."
Discussion followed on backpacks and coolers.
Mr. Pula was asked if there was Vendor contacts list.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK
NEXT WEEK WITH A TRUE AND DETAILED PLAN AS TO HOW THIS EVENT
WILL BE CARRIED OUT AND THAT WE ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE
IN OUR AGENDA AT EVERY MEETING FROM NOW UNTIL THE EVENT
EXECUTES - AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT UNDER INFORMATIONAL SO THAT
WE CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON THE PROGRESS BEING MADE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BONNER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE: _
COMMISS1ONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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603. Community Development Department -Urban Beautification Services Division
Requesting The Commission Review Information Regarding The Benefits Of A Proposed
Pole Banner Program And An Opportunity To Advertise The City's Fifty Year
Anniversary As Part Of The Program.
"I MOVE WE ADOPT OPTION A)." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DESIGN."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "CORRECT."
COMMISSIONER BONNER SUGGESTED THAT STAFF CONSIDER THIS AS A
POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE. MANAGER SMITH SAID HE AGREED WITH
THIS THOUGHT.
DISCUSSION FOLLOWED ON THE DESIGN PROCESS AND TIMELINES.
COMMISSIONER HOVEY NOTED, "WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SEND IT OUT TO
HAVE SOMEBODY HELP US." DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS AND COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS AGREED.
MR. RICHART STATED, "WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT IN-HOUSE, IF
YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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604. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Establish The Ribbon Cutting/Official Opening Of
The New Trotwood Park Splash Playground.
Discussion then ensued on-a possible date and time for this event, with May 2°d, [2009]
suggested.
"I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT AT TEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING." MOTION
BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "THE MOTION IS THE RIBBON CUTTING WOULD
BE MAY 2ND, [2009] AT TEN O'CLOCK [A.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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605. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Set A Date For The Second FY (Fiscal Year) 2010 Budget
Workshop.
Mayor Bush suggested, "May 19th, [2009]?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." Deputy
Mayor Krebs remarked "Yes." No objections were voiced.
As to a time, Mayor Bush remarked, "Six o'clock." Deputy Mayor Krebs said "Okay." Again,
no objections were noted. Summarizing, Mayor Bush noted, "6:00 p.m. on the 19th [of May
2009]."
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606. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Set A Workshop Date To Review The Utility Rate Study.
Mayor Bush asked, "Six o'clock -May 4th, [2009]?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Okay."
Commissioner Bonner commented "Yes." No objections were voiced.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
APRIL ?0, 2009
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Review The Recommendations Of The Local
Planning Agency Related To The Draft Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR)-Based
Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Provide Comment, And Give Direction On Desired
Revisions.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 27. ?009
REPORTS
406. Office Of The City Manager -Kevin L. Smith
City Manager Kevin L. Smith mentioned that the City of Oviedo has asked the City Commission
to hold their Joint Meeting on Tuesday, May 19th, 2009 and suggested the City Commission
reschedule the previously scheduled Budget Workshop to another date. There were no
objections to this.
With discussion on a new date for the next Budget Workshop, Wednesday, May 27th, 2009 was
suggested. Mayor John F. Bush remarked, "Works for me." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "That
is good for me." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Good." Commissioner Jean Hovey
commented, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "Six p.m." Commissioner Gary Bonner stated,
"Agreed." No objections were noted.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis asked the City Manager for "An update on our City's Website -the
progress that is being made. We had kind of a timeframe - a calendar of progress presented to us
and I think it is time to get an update on that." Manager Smith said "Yes."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five/Deputy Mayor -Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked about the City's Arbor Day and added, "Kudos to the team that
put it together. It was really, really nice." Deputy Mayor Krebs then noted, "Thank you Steve
(Richart) and Mike (Mingea). It was really, really good!"
Fourthly, Deputy Mayor Krebs asked about the possibility of the City having E-PASS
transponders on some City vehicles. Discussion followed with Manager Smith who said that he
had-been advised that transponders needed to be assigned-to a specific vehicle and added, "We
will take it up the ladder and see if we get a different answer."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Review The Report Of Findings From Phase 1 Of The
Forensic Investigation And Provide Direction For Proceeding With Phase 2.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH ARTICLE A
AND INCLUDE IN THAT BUDGET PROCESS DISCUSSIONS FOR B, D, AND E FOR
THE UPCOMING BUDGET TO REVIEW THE PROCESSES THAT THE CITY
MANAGER PUTS IN PLACE WITH OUR CURRENT CONSULTING AGENCY."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
AS TO COSTS, MS. WEITHORN STATED, IT IS NOT TO EXCEED TWENTY-FIVE
BUT IT IS PROBABLY LESS." COMMISSIONER BROWN NOTED, "THE RANGE IS
ELEVEN (11) TO TWENTY-FIVE (25)." MS. WEITHORN ADDED, "IT IS NOT TO
EXCEED."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I WOULD SUPPORT CONTINUING WITH
OUR PRESENT CONSULTANT."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Weithorn then asked about a time frame for completion; to which Deputy Mayor Krebs
stated, "Just work with Kevin (Smith) on that." Commissioner Brown added, "The sooner the
better so we can move on."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINUS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MAY 4, 2009
REGULAR
600. Utility/Public Works Department
Requesting City Commission To Review Preliminary Rate Study Recommendations For
Water, Sewer And Reclaimed Water User Fees.
Commissioner Gary Bonner suggested, "I would love to see -some sort of scheduling or tracking
of what would have happened if we would have had just an index that would have been tied to
the CPI (Consumer Price Index) or something along those lines; so that we would know where
we would be just anticipating normal economic changes that occurred in the economy during that
time frame. I think that that should be part of how we explain this to the consumer, because we
are going to go back and catch up as it were." Mr. Lockcuff noted, "I would like to do that going
forward too." Commissioner Bonner added, "I would love to do that going forward." Deputy
Mayor Krebs added, "I would think that was a good idea too." No objections were voiced.
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C[TY OF WIN~I`ER SPR]NGS, FLORIDA
MfNUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETI'~1G
MAY 1 1, 2009
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese reported about, "A lawsuit filed against the City -Grubbs
Enterprises v. City of Winter Springs. Generally, that Case involves -outstanding monies that
are in dispute regarding 2004 hurricanes." Attorney Garganese added, "I will be working with
Kevin (L. Smith, City Manager) hopefully to try to get that resolved."
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush brought up the issue of Enclaves.
Attorney Garganese suggested, "We could negotiate the Agreement like Longwood has."
"I MOVE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH INFORMATION AS TO
HOW WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE ANNEXATION OF THE EXISTING
ENCLAVES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Rick Brown added, When we do that, can we also calculate what the cost of
Police Services would be if we charged it back to the County, for those Enclaves?"
Attorney Garganese noted, "Yes - in terms of Police calls? Sure, you should have that data. You
should see what it is costing Winter Springs to provide service and the County should probably
see that data too." Commissioner Brown remarked, "Absolutely."
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REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned problems associated with wildlife issues and a lack of funding
for animal services and suggested, "I would like to ask Staff to engage in a conversation with the
County and see exactly what the options are."
Mayor Bush suggested, "Maybe we could ask Kevin (Smith) to -look into this?" Manager
Smith responded, "If the Commission would like me to, I would be happy to."
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Three -Gary Bonner
Commissioner Gary Bonner asked for an update on additional handicapped parking spaces at the
Senior Center.
_ "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT STAFF GO OUT AND SEEK A BID _
FOR ADDING THE POTENTIAL NUMBER OF HANDICAPPED SPACES AT THE
SENIOR CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.