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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
SPECIAL MEETING
JANUARY 9, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Special Meeting of Wednesday,
January 9, 2008 was called to Order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Robert L. Heatwole in the
Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434,
Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairman Robert L. Heatwole, present
Vice Chairman Charles Lacey, present
Board Member Tom Brown, present
Board Member Rosanne Karr, present
Board Member William H. Poe, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, AS LA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
addressed the Board Members and said, "Staff and the Consultants want to move forward
tonight based upon the presentation that was prepared." Mr. Stevenson then said, "We
will use the information and discuss that at tonight's meeting to refine and amend the
Recommendations included in Part II of the Draft (Evaluation And Appraisal Report) that
you have. This refinement will be emailed to you and the LP A (Local Planning Agency)
Members - and the Commission prior to the City Commission Meeting on the 17th of this
month. We will need to set a schedule for that tonight."
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Not Used.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Not Used.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used.
400. REPORTS
Deputy City Clerk Joan Brown reviewed the Sunshine Law to the Board Members.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Not Used.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The Local Planning Agency Review The Draft Evaluation And
Appraisal Report (EAR) And Participate In A Discussion Led By Planning
Communities, LLC On The Recommendations Related To The City's List Of Major
Issues.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department addressed the Board Members on the review of the Evaluation And
Appraisal Report.
Ms. Teresa Townsend, AlCP, Chief Executive Officer, Planning Communities, LLC, 2510
Wild Tamarind Boulevard, Orlando, Florida: spoke on reviewing the major issues of the
Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR) and presented a PowerPoint presentation.
Discussion.
Ms. Townsend spoke on Major Issue 1 - "Population, Housing Density and Greenspace"
and reviewed with the Advisory Board Members.
Discussion ensued on Building heights.
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Tape 1/Side B
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND RECOMMENDATION
NUMBER ONE (1) UNDER 'POPULATION, HOUSING DENSITY AND
GREENSPACE' TO BE MODIFIED ALLOWING HEIGHTS OF THE
BUILDINGS TO BE INCREASED NO LARGER THAN SIX (6) STORIES IN
THE TOWN CENTER." MOTION BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE
BOARDMEMBERPOE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Townsend stated, "The second one is to focus a High Density Housing within the
Town Center and the US (Highway) 17-92 Corridor."
"I WOULD GLADLY MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT." MOTION BY
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD
MEMBER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
MOTION CARRIED
Continuing, Ms. Townsend said, ''Number '3.' allow vertically integrated multi-family
and commercial areas as a Conditional Use." There were no objections from the Board
Members.
Chairman Heatwole stated, "Let's move to Number '4.'''. Ms. Townsend stated, "Area
wide evaluation of environmental resources; use incentives and acquisition." There were
no objections from the Board Members.
Ms. Townsend discussed Recommendation Number '5.'.
Continuing, Chairman Heatwole said, "Any other - for Number '5.'?" There were no
objections from the Board Members.
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Mr. Stevenson said, "The City of Winter Springs has a policy - that we strongly,
strongly, highly, highly - encourage the relocation of gopher tortoises."
Chairman Heatwole stated, "Let's move to Number 6." Ms. Townsend discussed LEED
(Leadership, Energy and Environmental Design) Certification for buildings. There were
no objections from the Board Members.
Discussion.
"IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER '6.', I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM [NUMBER] '3.', '4.', '5.', AND '6.',
RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER 'POPULATION, HOUSING DENSITY AND
GREENSPACE'." MOTION BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Ms. Townsend discussed Major Issue 2 - "Redevelopment of West Side".
Referring to Recommendation number' 1. " Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I have no
discussion on item '1.'." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "I am 'Okay' with it."
There were no other objections.
Chairman Heatwole said, "Okay - for Number '2.'." There were no objections with
Number '2.'.
Ms. Townsend reviewed Number '3.' with the Board Members. There were no
objections.
Continuing, Ms. Townsend said, "Number '4.' is Staff, Board and Commission review
for obstacles and opportunities for Redevelopment." No objections from the Board
Members were voiced.
Referring to Number '5.', Ms. Townsend stated, "Incentives for Redevelopment."
Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I have no problem with this." There were no
objections noted.
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Ms. Townsend said, "On Number '6.', the Vertical Integration of Uses." Discussion
ensued on "Mixed Use Designation". Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I have no
problem with Number '6.'." There were no other objections from the Board Members.
Continuing, Ms. Townsend said, "Number '7.' - Accessory Dwelling Units and
Conditional Uses." Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Further discussion continued on Accessory Dwelling Units and Conditional Uses. There
were no other objections on Number '7.'.
With discussion on Number '8.' and '9.', Chairman Heatwole stated, "Any other
questions or concerns on Number '8.' and Number '9.', since they were brought
together."
Vice Chairman Lacey said, "Actually, I think there does need to be some recording of
[Number] '8.'." Vice Chairman Lacey then said, "What you got here is stated fine,
except I think emphasis can be misread. I would rather be more clear that we are talking
about instances where the word 'only' in an upgrade situation rather than having such a
strong clause that talks about 'independent of whether they are in harmony' or say
'upgrades only' and emphasize that part a little more." Advisory Board Member Karr
said, "Right. Exactly. Good point."
Referring to Number ' 1 0.', Ms. Townsend said, "Support transition of older homes
located along arterial roadways convert to live-work or commercial use." Advisory
Board Member Poe said, "We have done that along [State Road] 434 already. I have no
problem with that." There were no other objections noted.
Next, Ms. Townsend stated, "Number' 11.' - Design Standards for density increases or
mixed use in neighborhoods." There were no other objections from the Board Members.
Continuing to Number' 12.', address Infrastructure deficits, there were no objections.
"I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ITEMS NUMBER '1.' THROUGH '12.' AS
WRITTEN IN THE REPORT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WORDING IN
NUMBER '8.' TO BE DRAFTED THAT MAKES MORE EMPHASIS ON THE
UPGRADE PROVISIONS AND THIS IS TO MAJOR ISSUE NUMBER 2
'REDEVELOPMENT OF THE WEST SIDE'." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN
LACEY. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERKARR: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Heatwole called a Recess at 8:46 p.m.
The Special Meeting was called back to Order at 8:56 p.m.
Mr. Mark Sievers, AICP, President, Sievers & Associates, LLC, 444 Opal Court,
Altamonte Springs, Florida: presented to the Board Members Major Issue 3 -
"GreeneWay Interchange Employment District".
Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I highly support Recommendation Number' 1.', as a
matter of fact - I sat on the Port Authority Board which also endorsed the SeminoleW A Y
initiative as did a number of other organizations." Advisory Board Member Poe then
said, "I believe the SeminoleW A Y initiative is something that is going to be a very
positive impact on Winter Springs along with others all the way down the greenbelt
[GreeneWay]. So, I am definitely in support of that Recommendation." Vice Chairman
Lacey stated, "I endorse what Mr. Poe just said." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "I
agree also."
Mr. Sievers discussed Number '2.' and there were no other objections from the Advisory
Board Members.
Chairman Heatwole stated, "Number '3.'." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "And I
agree with that also." There were no other objections.
Continuing, Mr. Sievers spoke of the Master Plan on Number '4.'. Advisory Board
Member Poe stated, "I have no problem with that." Discussion.
Next for discussion was Number '5.'. Mr. Sievers spoke about Transit Services.
Discussion.
There were no other objections for Number '5.'.
Referring to Number '6.', Mr. Sievers discussed the Future Land Use Element Policy
1.4.1. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "So, the word on Number '6.' instead of the word 'Density' it
should be saying 'Intensity'."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATION
'1.' THROUGH '6.' WITH THE CHANGE OF THE WORD 'DENSITY' TO
'INTENSITY' ON THE MAJOR ISSUE NUMBER 3 'GREENEWAY
INTERCHANGE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT'." MOTION BY ADVISORY
BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER
KARR. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Mr. Sievers discussed Major Issue 4 - "State Road 434 Corridor".
For Recommendation Number' 1.', it is my understanding that the City is now looking to
delete the first sentence of that - the reasoning may have to do with it being covered in
Number '2.' and/or capabilities of the City being able to do it itself." Mr. Sievers stated,
"For Number' 1.', I think we are presenting it as deleting the first sentence and keeping -
and consider dropping the LOS (Levels of Service) standard on State Road 434. The
State does allow the City to set the Level of Service on that road."
Ms. Townsend said, "But, we might want to confer more with Brian [Fields, P.E. City
Engineer, Public Works Department] but, that was confirmed."
Advisory Board Member Poe stated, "We are deleting the entire first sentence and the
first word of the second sentence which was 'Additionally', and starting it with 'Consider
dropping LOS (Level of Service) standard on State Road 434.. .'?" Ms. Townsend said,
" . . . Correct."
Discussion.
Vice Chairman Lacey said, "I suggest that this one (1) sentence be reworked to speak of
what we are talking about and what is really meant by Level of Service reduction."
Advisory Board Member Karr said, "Right."
"I MOVE THAT NUMBER '1.' BE REWRITTEN IN ITS ENTIRETY TO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMENTS MADE HERE TO - SPECIFYING
LOCATION, APPLICABILITY AND A MORE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON
WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE CHANGES ARE AND THEIR REAL
WORLD IMPACT." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY. SECONDED BY
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Continuing with Major Issue 4, Mr. Sievers discussed Recommendation Number '2.',
Advisory Board Member Poe stated, "I have no problem with it." There were no
objections noted.
Continuing, Mr. Sievers said, ''Numbers '3.' and '4.' are pretty straight forward." Vice
Chairman Lacey said, ''No objection." Advisory Board Member Poe said, ''No
objection."
Next, Mr. Sievers stated, "Number '5.' is what we talked about a little earlier, the
feasibility of connections for transit bicycle and pedestrian. We currently show it as
'north of SR [State Road] 434', we could delete that part. We also have a two (2) page
study in there and - we could delete if necessary too." Vice Chairman Lacey said, "I
think I agree with Mark's [Sievers] suggested first change anyway that the specific north
route be changed to a general goal of making connection to the GID (GreeneWay
Interchange District) feasible from the Trail." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "I
agree with that."
Ms. Sahlstrom said, "Can we also take out the 'two-phase study' and just say, 'Add a
policy regarding the feasibility' ...." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "That would be
fine with me." There were no other objections from the Board Members.
On Recommendation Number '6.', Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I would like to
see that sentence, 'Consider jurisdictional transfer of SR (State Road) 434 to City
maintenance' be - deleted." Ms. Townsend stated, "I already have it crossed out in
mine." No objections were voiced.
Mr. Sievers spoke on Recommendation Number '7.'. Chairman Heatwole said, "It might
be better to specify - west of Vistawilla [Road]." Mr. Stevenson said, "This is just my
opinion. I think we do need to change it to address..." Vice Chairman Lacey said, "...It
is already at its maximum constraint the way it is worded, so we are talking about
loosening the constraint." Mr. Stevenson then said, "Exactly."
Discussion.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE
PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ITEMS SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND
SO, I AM MOVING THAT WE APPROVE AS WRITTEN THE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MAJOR ISSUE NUMBER 4 - 'STATE ROAD 434
CORRIDOR' ITEMS NUMBER '2.', '3.' AND '4.', '5.' SUBJECT TO STRIKING
OUT THE 'TWO PHASE STUDY' AND MAKING MORE GENERAL THE
SPECIFICATION OF THE ROUTE OF THE STATE ROAD 434 TRAIL.
APPROVING NUMBER '6.', WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE LAST
SENTENCE. APPROVING NUMBER '7.'; WITH THE PROVISION THAT THE
CONSTRAINT APPLIES ONLY TO THAT AREA OF [STATE ROAD] 434
WEST OF VISTA WILLA [ROAD]." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side B
VOTE:
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERKARR: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Continuing with Recommendation Number '8.', Mr. Sievers said, "There is a lot of text
there, but the goal is just to keep our options open at this point. Getting this input will
really help a lot." Mr. Sievers then stated, "If '1.' or '2.' are decided to be implemented
by the City Comp[ rehensive] Plan Policies, it will need to be added for most of those.
And then Number '9.' is pretty much hopefully a non-controversial one too." There were
no other objections from the Board Members.
Ms. Sahlstrom said, "There was one other comment from the City Engineer that I just
wanted to comment is that we should add a policy supporting the widening of [State
Road] 434 east ofthe GreeneWay Interchange [District] because right now that is two (2)
lanes and if we were to annex land into the GreeneWay Interchange District, it is very
problematic over here, and if this land in here is brought into the GreeneWay Interchange
District, it needs to be wider than two (2) lanes." Ms. Sahlstrom then said, "The City
could pursue just for that section that would then support the [GreeneWay] Interchange
[District]."
Advisory Board Member Poe stated, "That then would appear as Recommendation
'10. '?" Mr. Stevenson said, "I would believe so."
Discussion.
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Chairman Heatwole stated, "We are good on [Recommendation Number] '8.', good on
'9.' and '10.' as a new one to add another Comprehensive Plan that would encourage the
widening of [State Road] 434."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT UNDER MAJOR ISSUE
NUMBER 4, 'STATE ROAD 434 CORRIDOR' THAT RECOMMENDATIONS
'8.', '8a.', '8b.', '8e.', '8d.', '9.' BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN WITH THE
ADDITION OF ITEM '10.' WHICH WOULD WIDEN STATE ROAD 434 TO
THE EAST ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE GREENEWAY INTERCHANGE
DISTRICT." MOTION BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED
BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON SAID, "IF I MAY CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE - NOT
WIDENING, BUT SUPPORTING THE WIDENING OF [STATE ROAD] 434."
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE SAID, "THE MOTION IS SO AMENDED."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARD MEMER POE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED)
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Karen T. Campblin, Senior Planner, Planning Communities, LLC, 2510 Wild
Tamarind Boulevard, Orlando, Florida: presented Major Issue 5 - "Elderly Housing and
Medical Care to the Board Members".
On Recommendation Number '1.', Advisory Board Member Brown said, "I have no
problem with that." Advisory Board Member Poe stated, "Nor do I." Advisory Board
Member Karr said, "Neither do I."
Continuing to Recommendation Number '2.', Vice Chairman Lacey stated, "No
problem." Advisory Board Member Poe said, "No problem."
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Next, Recommendation Number '3,', Vice Chairman Lacey said, "I think the language
that is in here is sufficient subject to strict design compatibility guidelines to protect
neighborhood character. So, I am satisfied as written."
There were no objections from the Board Members on Recommendation Number '4.'.
On Recommendation Number '5.', Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I am for it."
There were no other objections noted.
On Page 45 of the Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR), the Recommendation
Numbers '7.', '8.' and '9.' should be listed as '6.', '7.' and '8.'.
Continuing to Recommendation Number '6.', Advisory Board Member Poe said, "I have
no problem." There were no objections from the Board Members.
On Recommendation Number '7.', no objections were voiced.
Lastly, there were no other objections on Recommendation Number '8.'.
"I MOVE WE ACCEPT UNDER MAJOR ISSUE NUMBER 5 'ELDERLY
HOUSING AND MEDICAL CARE', ITEMS '1.' THROUGH '8.' AS WRITTEN,
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CORRECTED SEQUENTIAL NUMBERING."
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD
MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Continuing to Major Issue 6 - "Affordable and Work Force Housing", Ms. Campblin
discussed the Recommendations.
On Recommendation Number' 1. " Advisory Board Member Karr stated, "I am okay with
this." There were no objections from the Board Members.
Next, Recommendation Number '2.', there were no objections from the Board Members.
For Recommendation Number '3.', Vice Chairman Lacey said, "No objection."
Advisory Board Member Poe stated, "None." There were no other objections.
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Continuing to Recommendation Number '4.', there were no other objections from the
Board Members.
On Recommendation Number '5.', Advisory Board Member Karr said, "Again, if you
can define the Level of Service (LOS)." Advisory Board Member Karr then said,
"Although this one says 'Traffic Level Of Service'." Chairman Heatwole said, "It may
need some clarification when we get to that with the Commission." There were no
objections for Recommendation Number' 5.'.
Lastly, with further discussion on Recommendation Number '6.', Vice Chairman Lacey
stated, "I am a little concerned about the ramifications of Number '6.'."
Discussion continued on Work-Force Housing.
Vice Chairman Lacey said, "Then on the second clause of Number '6.', seems different
then the first and now we are talking about a commercial project has to provide a certain
number of apartments for workers. We are not using the phrase 'Work-Force Housing'
there. Number of apartments for workers seems to be not saying much."
Ms. Sahlstrom said, "I believe it is intended to be Work-Force Housing to clarify that, but
it is a different aspect. One is residential projects, the second portion of that is
commercial projects."
Vice Chairman Lacey then said, "Both parts seem very open ended." Advisory Board
Member Poe said, "I am in support of the concept. There is no question there, but I agree
with Mr. Lacey. We need to define it as apartments for Work-Force Housing and we
probably need to quantify it or..." Advisory Board Member Karr said, "...Or take out
the specifics of the first part of it. Can you be sufficiently vague in the first part of it as
you are in the second part to leave it open for discussion or do you want to be that
specific for residential projects?"
Discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "I think in the refined document that we send you, we need to define
'large' and we need to define 'certain number'." Advisory Board Member Karr said,
"Right." Mr. Stevenson then said, "Is that what we are asking here?" Advisory Board
Member Poe said, "It is for me." Vice Chairman Lacey said, "I'm probably going to
oppose Number '6.'."
"I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE TEXT AS WRITTEN FOR ITEMS NUMBER
'1.' THROUGH '5.' WITH NUMBER '5.' BEING MODIFIED TO GIVE A
BETTER DEFINITION OF LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR MAJOR ISSUE
NUMBER 6, 'AFFORDABLE AND WORK FORCE HOUSING'." MOTION BY
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER
POE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Advisory Board Member Poe suggested to the Board Members and said, "That we
provide Staff some time to go back and take a look at Number '6.' So that they can
define some of the issues there that we have addressed as a concern and I know we are to
meet on the 17th [January 2008] with the City Commission and I believe that just prior to
that Meeting we could re-Iook at Number '6.' - and we could draw a Consensus prior to
that Meeting whether we agree with [Number] '6.' or not."
Discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE PROVIDE STAFF SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO
REDEFINE ITEM NUMBER '6.' UNDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AT
THE MEETING ON THE 17TH [JANUARY 2008] JUST PRIOR TO THE
MEETING WE RE-LOOK AT THAT AND COME TO A CONSENSUS OF
AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME." MOTION BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER
POE. SECONDED BY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON SAID, "I NEED TO ASK A QUESTION MAYBE OF THE
CITY CLERK. IS IT POSSIBLE UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW TO
DISTRIBUTE OUR RECOMMENDATION BY EMAIL AND GET A
CONSENSUS BACK FROM THE COMMITTEE [BOARD]. THEY HAVEN'T
DISCUSSED IT, THEY ARE GIVING US THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT SO
THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST AT THAT
POINT SAY THAT THERE WAS A MAJORITY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS OR
THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE MEMBERS
OF THE LPA (LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY). I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS
AN OPTION OR NOT."
MS. SAHLSTROM SAID, "WHEN WE HAD THE EAST RURAL AREA
PROPERTY OWNER'S COMMITTEE AND WE HAD A - THE DRAFT
REPORT WAS PRESENTED, I THINK THERE WERE SOME - MINOR
EDITING CHANGES AND SO FORTH. THOSE WERE MADE THAT WERE
RE-SENT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THEM TO COMMENT ON. IN
OTHER WORDS, SO THAT THEY COULD SAY THIS WAS NOT WHAT WE
AGREED TO AT LEAST A COMMENT BEFORE IT WENT TO THE
COMMISSION AS THE RECOMMENDED REPORT."
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ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER POE ASKED, "AND THAT WAS DONE BY
EMAIL?" MS. SAHLSTROM SAID, "YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT BY
EMAIL."
MR. STEVENSON SAID, "IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE INDIVIDUALLY
AND TALLIED BY THE STAFF TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
SUNSHINE LAW."
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN LACEY: AYE
CHAIRMAN HEATWOLE: AYE
BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE
BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 3/Side A
Vice Chairman Lacey asked, "So, at the Meeting next week, you will have a revised
version of at least Section [Part] II that would have been distributed by then?" Ms.
Townsend said, "Yes." Ms. Townsend then said, "The format of the Workshop will be
redefined."
Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "On the distribution of the Agenda Item for the 17th [January
2008], would you like it to only include the Recommendations or would you like it to
include all of Part II that has the background data as well?"
Advisory Board Member Karr said, "No. Just the Recommendations." Chairman
Heatwole said, "Just the Recommendations." Advisory Board Member Poe said,
"Recommendations." Vice Chairman Lacey said, "We've made no changes here to the
background information only Recommendations."
Mr. Stevenson said, "In terms of total disclosure, at this point, there does not appear to be
any changes that were made to the Recommendations tonight that are - for some reason
not supported in the verbiage." Ms. Townsend said, "1 think so. Yes."
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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
SPECIAL MEETING - JANUARY 9, 2008
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Heatwole adjourned the Special Meeting at 10:27 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
APPROVED:
BERT L. HEATWOLE, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the March 19, 2008 Regular Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Meeting.