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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LP A
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 2, 2000
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Regular Meeting was called to order Wednesday,
February 2, 2000, at 7:02 p.m. by Chairn1an Carl Stephens, Jr., in the Commission
Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
Roll Call
Carl Stephens, Jr., Chairman, present
Marc Clinch, Vice Chainl1an, present
Tom Brown, absent
Bill Fernandez, present
Rosanne Karr, present
Also Present
Thomas Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator
Approval Of the November 24, 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/Local
Planning Agency Meeting Minutes
There was discussion regarding page three (3), last paragraph, the line reading "The City
should design a improved storm water management plan for the Town Center in order to
fi'ee up land in the Town Center for private development." should read as "The City
should design an improved storn1 water management plan for the Town Center in order to
free up land in the Town Center for private development."
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "OTHER THAN THAT ONE
CHANGE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE MINUTES OF OUR
NOVEMBER 24,1999 MEETING BE APPROVED AS CIRCULATED BY MAIL."
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I MOVE
THAT WE CORRECT THE PAGE SEQUENCE." SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRMAN MARC CLINCH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
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CHAIRMAN CARL STEPHENS, JR.: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Approval Of. the November 3, 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/Local
Planning Agency Meeting Minutes
Discussion followed regarding Board Member Karr's departure from the meeting at 9:30
p.m. and her lack of a vote on an issue for this reason; that: "to wit" was written correctly
in the minutes; and that on page two (2), the company that Mr. Howell represents is
"Ivey, Harris, & Walls".
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "WITH THOSE COMMENTS, I
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 3, 1999."
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
CHAIRMAN CARL STEPHENS, JR.: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN MARC CLINCH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
II. REGULAR AGENDA
A. Variance to Building Setbacks on Lots 120, 121, 122, 123
Fox Glen at Chelsea Parc
Mr. Thomas Griml11s, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator spoke to the
Board regarding the purpose for the request; justification for the request; and the Staff
findings.
The Board discussed the Staffs findings in relation to there being no potential negative
effects to surrounding properties; the front and side setbacks of the existing lots; the
Board being approached by the developer in the past; and the Board having the authority
to "approve an alteration to the final development plan".
Mr. Hugh Harling of Harling, Locklin and Associates,: spoke of why they were
requesting the alteration; the history of the subdivision; and not anticipating being back
before the Board again.
At the request of the Board, Mr. Grimms read Section 20.358. of the Code of the City of
Winter Springs.
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Board Member Bill Fernandez stated, "We have been here before, we have done this
before, I've expressed my displeasure with the circuity of this particular ordinance. I
believe I said a year ago that this particular ordinance should be addressed by the City
Commission and again, so that this Board and this record is clear in case, doubtfully, any
of the Commissioners will listen to it, but the second sentence of 20-35 says, the Board
shall review the request and make findings of fact, findings of fact as to whether the
proposal constitutes a change in the preliminary development plan also. And I for one
cannot make findings of fact, whether it constitutes a change in the preliminary
development plan, unless I have the preliminary development plan in front of me. So,
once again I think that whole sentence is inapplicable, it should not be in here and it is
circuitous because we go through the same process, whether it is preliminary or it is final.
But once again if we do find that it constitutes a change, from some plan that we don't
have in front of us, the preliminary one, then we have to go through our same process in
20-358. If there is no change to the preliminary plan, and it is my thought that deleting,
reducing or altering a drainage easement by five (5) feet would be an alteration or change
of a preliminary development plan, as well as the final of course, that if it is not a change,
then we go to this section which is 20-359."
Board Member Fernandez continued, "I can sit here and say from what I review and what
I've heard, that I think it would be substantially consistent with the approved final
development plan, that it would be consistent with what the Planning and Zoning Board
may approve or approve with modifications for the proposed change but once again, I
express, and this time I'll say my very strong displeasure and dissatisfaction with the
language contained in Section 20-359.A as it relates to reviewing and making findings of
fact as whether there is a change in the preliminary plan, and we don't even have it in
front of us. I don't think that ought to be in there and out of frustration the last time I
think that's when I proposed to approve the modification and alteration, but once again, I
want to get that off my chest and on the records and maybe ten (10) years from now or
twenty (20) years from now the City Attorney will dress this up or address this when he
has the time. Those are my comments, Mr. Chair."
Discussion continued regarding if prospective buyers and homeowners are being
informed of the setbacks; neighboring lots; the history of the subdivision; and the
Homeowners Association.
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT
THIS BODY RECOMMENDS FOR APPROVAL THE WHITE MARK
ALTERATIONS TO FOX GLEN AT CHELSEA PARC, TUSCAWILLA PHASE
TWO (2) FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOTS 120, 121, 122 AND 123."
BOARD MEMBER KARR SECONDED. DiSCUSSION.
Discussion followed regarding that the motion should include some "findings of fact".
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MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I AMEND MY MOTION PENDING
CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER THIS IS A CHANGE OR AN
ALTERATION TO THE CITY'S ORDINANCE, SECTION 20-358."
Discussion ensued regarding preliminary and final plans; the final plat filed with the
Sel11inole County Clerk of the Circuit Court Office; the second sentence of Ordinance
20-359.A; and when the City Commission goes to address Ordinances that 20-359. be
reviewed.
BOARD MEMBER KARR WITHDREW HER SECOND.
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT
THIS BODY RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL WHITE MARK ALTERATION
TO FOX GLEN AT CHELSEA PARC, AT TUSCAWILLA PHASE TWO (2)
FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOTS 120, 121, 122 AND 123 AND THAT
IT BE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FINAL PLAT,
SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENT-SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENT, WITH
FINAL PLAT."
There was brief discussion regarding the final development plan and the final plat.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I AMEND
MY MOTION TO INCLUDE SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENT \VITH THE
FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO INCLUDE THE STAFF FINDINGS
UNDER ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE." BOARD
MEMBER FERNANDEZ SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRMAN MARC CLINCH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
CHAIRMAN CARL STEPHENS, JR. : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Grimms stated "The motion that was passed just now, that was a detern1ination that
the request that alteration is substantially consistent with the approved final development
plan. Ok, you may now want to consider passing a motion to approve the alterations, if
you want to be technical about it."
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "SO MOVED." HOARD
MEMBER KARR SECONDED.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
CHAIRMAN CARL STEPHENS, JR.: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN MARC CLINCH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
B. Proposed Staff Planning Projects for this Year
Mr. Grimms informed the Board that the following specific projects would be undertaken
in the future:
· Revisit and revise S.R. 434 Corridor Redevelopment Overlay Zoning District
Regulations
. Revisit and revise S.R. 434 New Development Overlay Zoning District Regulations
· Review and revise the overall Sign Ordinance (Chapter 16 of the City Code)
· The review and revision of the Land Development Regulations
. Annexations and creating an incentive package
· Preparing the Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR)
. Preparing a Joint Planning Agreement
. Topical Map
The Board discussed the relationship of Land Development Regulations to City
Ordinances; and proposing issues regarding annexation to the City Commission.
Tape 1/Side B
Discussion continued regarding possible annexations; and the procedure for getting legal
opinion of the ordinance that created the Plam1ing and Zoning Board.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION
THAT WE HAVE OUR CHAIRMAN REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER
OBTAIN A LEGAL OPINION OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT CERATES THE
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY,
TO GET A LEGAL OPINION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AS TO THE P&Z
AUTHORITY IN THE ANNEXATION AREA AND WHETHER OR NOT IF WE
HAVE ANY RIGHT TO BE IN THAT PROCESS." SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
CHAIRMAN CARL STEPHENS, JR.: AYE
VICE CHAIRMAN MARC CLINCH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
The Board continued discussing past and possible future annexations; and a letter being
composed to the City Manager.
C. Eckcrd Drug Store - Final Site Plan, Final Engineering
Mr. Grimms infol111ed the Board that Eckerd Drug Store was "put on as an amended
Agenda Item"; and introduced the representatives of Eckerd Drug Store.
Mr. Ron Henson, Design Service Group, 3228 South Green Street, Longwood. Florida:
stated he is representing Unicorp, along with Bob Fike (who was also present); that they
are coming before the Board to seek the Board's approval of the site plan; requested a
Special Meeting in two (2) weeks for formal approval; and presented and reviewed the
plans.
The Board discussed the "cut thru" traffic; and the traffic flow of State Road 434 and
State Road 419.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 8:45 p.m.
The Board's discussion continued regarding access to the utilities; the frontage retention
pond and other storm improvements planned; and curb inlets.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore departed at 8:49 p.m.
Discussion ensued regarding utility easements; submittal of the final engineering plans;
and having a Special Meeting on Febmary 16,2000, at 7:00 p.m. which the Board agreed
to by consensus.
III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
. Eckerds Drug Store Pinal Plans
. Action Items
Board Member Marc Clinch stated "I believe I have to enter into public record as
required by the Sunshine Law. I was contacted by Mr. Joe DeMinico, introduced himself
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as a concemed citizen regarding the Tuskawilla Parcels 7 & 8. He was concerned with
how that was proceeding with the City after we had addressed those two cases and I
advised that I did not follow the issue past our motion and that is about it. I don't know if
I have to enter in to public record but I wanted to do the right thing."
Discussion followed regarding that there being "No violation of the Sunshine Laws".
IV. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING". BOARD MEMBER KARR SECONDED. THE BOARD AGREED
TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS.
Chairn1an Stephens adjourned the meeting at 8:58 p.m.
Minutes Respectfully Submitted By: Debbie Gillespie, Ci~y Clerk's Office
City of Winter Springs, Florida
APPROVED:
tJ~~~,
CARL STEPHE S, JR., C (RMAN
PLANNING and ZONING BOARD/LP A
NOTE; These minutes were approved at the
3/ J
,2000 Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Meeting.
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