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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LP A
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 3, 1999
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Regular Meeting was called to order Wednesday,
November 3, 1999, at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Carl Stephens, Jr., in the Commission
Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
Roll Call
Carl Stephens, Jr., Chairman, present
Marc Clinch, Vice Chairman, present
Tom Brown, absent
Bill Fernandez, present
Rosanne Karr, arrived at 7:08 p.m.
Also Present
Charles Carrington, AICP, Community Development Department, Director
Thomas Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator
Anthony A. Garganese, City Attorney
Approval Of the October 6, 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/Local
Planning Agency Meeting Minutes
The Board discussed changing the word "width" (page two, second paragraph) to
"depths" so the paragraph would read as: "Discussion followed regarding the location of
the property; the boundaries; the lot widths; and the lot depths of other neighboring
properties. "
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER BILL FERNANDEZ. "I MOVE TO APPROVE
THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 6, 1999 REGULAR MEETING WITH THE
CORRECTION DISCUSSED". SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MARC
CLINCH. THE BOARD AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS.
MOTION CARRIED.
II. REGULAR AGENDA
Mr. Thomas Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator introduced
the Board to the new City Attorney, Anthony A. Garganese. The Board welcomed
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Attorney Garganese to the meeting and requested that in the future the by-laws be
reviewed with the City Attorney present.
A. Discussion with Charles Carrington, AICP
Community Development Director
Mr. Charles Carrington, Community Development Department Director introduced
himself to the Board and spoke of the importance of the Planning and Zoning Board; of
the many "functions" of Planning and Zoning; the "strategy" of annexation; and a joint
meeting of the City Commission and the Planning and Zoning Board in the future.
Board Member Rosanne Karr arrived at 7:08 p.m.
Discussion followed regarding annexations; the Board being informed of pending issues;
and Staff keeping the Board informed of any annexations in the future.
B. Tuscawilla PUD Parcel 7 and Parcel 8
Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Grimms stated that the applicant, Tuskawilla Investors, Inc. is applying for a change
of Future Land Use Map designation from "Recreation" to "Lower Density Residential"
(1.1 - 3.5 DU per acre). He read the findings from Agenda Item II. B., and the
Development Review Committee (DRC) recommendation to the Local Planning Agency
(LP A).
The Board discussed the Development Review Committee's meeting of October 19,
1999; the Second Amendment to the Mikes Settlement Agreement; and that any changes
regarding the Future Land Use Map should come before the Board for some kind of
recommendation.
Chairman Stephens asked if anyone would like to speak from the audience.
John Howell, Holland & Knight Law Firm, Orlando, Florida: advised the Board that he
represents the applicant. He then introduced Steve Loveland and Rob Holland, Marsh
Land Development Company; and Joel Ivey, Ivey, Harrison and Wahl. Discussion
ensued that James Mikes is not involved in this project; that the tennis courts and
swimming pool will not be removed: the background of the parcels since 1971; and that
the applicant will return with a proposal in the future.
Discussion ensued regarding the property boundaries; the golf course; that there are no
drawings or plans for the parcels at this time; the creek; that the entrance would be within
the legal description; and traffic.
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Joe DeMinico, 985 Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: asked what impact this would
cause to the golf course; creek drainage; and diminishing the conservation area and the
golf course.
Dan Dyche, 846 Bentley Green Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of his concern that
the green area in the community "can just be given away"; and asked if there is a specific
plan for the parcels. Mr. Dyche also spoke about the driving range and St. Johns River
Water Management District.
Jim Pitts, 904 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: asked if this a
"done deal".
Terry Scarlata, 1006 Nancy Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concern with
downstream flooding; that the elevation map was done numerous years ago; asked if a
high water mark was ever determined; and inquired about the flood zone plan.
Tape 1/Side B
Iris Mennens, 4551 Creekside Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: asked that the developer
keep the trees and the beauty of the land.
Mr. Grimms spoke of the Arbor Ordinance; the commitment of the City to protect the
trees; that the developer must conform to the City's regulations; the court agreement;
many surrounding developments were at higher density than Parcel 7 and Parcel 8; and
that the citizens should "have confidence" in the City Regulations.
Rolf Utegaard, 797 Austin Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of being on the
Tuscawilla Task Force; Settlement Agreements; and of "past promises."
Al Partington, 1456 Mt. Laurel Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of being a
member of the Tuscawilla Task Force; the possibility of losing the lighting of the tennis
courts; and the golf practice facility.
John Howell explained that the applicant will not eliminate any of the amenities that
presently exist; the parcels combined will have a total of sixty-five (65) single family
units; that many upgrades have already been completed; and that community meetings
will be held.
Mr. Grimms explained that the applicant is requesting a change of Future Land Use Map
designation from "Recreation" to "Lower Density Residential" (1.1 - 3.5 DU per acre).
In light of the comments made before the Board, discussion ensued between the Board
and the City Attorney regarding the validity and enforceability of the Second Amendment
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to the Settlement Agreement and the court's jurisdiction to enforce any provision of the
settlement agreement.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "MR. CHAIR, I WILL
RECOMMEND THAT-LET ME FIND WHAT THEIR FINDINGS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS WERE-AND RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THE
ENTIRE SET OF ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR FINDINGS, SUFFICE IT TO SAY,
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN SPECIFIC BULLET POINT
FINDINGS AS WELL AS THE ONE THAT YOU INDICATED MR. CHAIR TO
WIT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CONFORM TO THE EXISTING
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL
THE CURRENT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY, I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT THE CITY COMMISSION TRANSMIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THAT THE CERTAIN LARGE SCALE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT LG-CP A-3-99 DEALING WITH THE
TUSCA WILLA PARCEL SEVEN AND EIGHT".
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ CONTINUED, "THEN I WILL ADD TO THE
MOTION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION THEN SCHEDULE AN
APPROPRIATE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE PLANNED
AMENDMENT AFTER RECEIVING THE ORC REPORT (OBJECTIONS,
RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS REPORT) FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS".
Chairman Stephens passed the gavel to Vice Chairman Marc Clinch.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARL STEPHENS. DISCUSSION. VOTE:
MARK CLINCH: NAY; BILL FERNANDEZ: AYlE; ROSANNE KARR: NAY;
CARL STEPHENS: NAY. MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Discussion followed regarding the procedures of the Planning and Zoning Board
recommendations being forwarded to the City Commission; public attendance at the
December 13, 1999 City Commission Regular Meeting; and other motion(s).
Vice Chairman Clinch passed the gavel to Chairman Stephens.
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLINCH. "I MAKE A MOTION TO NOT
RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION FORWARD THIS PLAN TO
DCA (DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS)."
BOARD MEMBER CLINCH CONTINUED, "AND ALSO NOT TO ADOPT THIS
PLAN". BOARD MEMBER ROSEANNE KARR SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: BILL FERNANDEZ: NAY; ROSANNE KARR: AYE;
STEPHENS: AYE; MARK CLINCH: AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
CARL
C. Elizabeth Morse Foundation Rezoning [ REZ-4-99 ]
Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Grimms stated that the applicant is requesting a change of Future Land Use Map
designation from County R-I0 "Agriculture" (1 DU per 10 acres maximum) to the City's
"Lower Density Residential" (1.1-3.5 DU per acre); the purpose; the findings; and the
DRC's (Development Review Committee) recommendation.
The Board discussed the background of the present request of the applicant; the site
location and boundaries; neighboring developments; and the drainage.
Randy Kirkwood, Harling Locklin Associates; spoke of his company being the Planner
and Engineer for the project; the drainage culvert; the land recently being surveyed; and
the site compatibility. .
The discussion continued regarding a possible request for R-IA zoning; the price of the
homes; and if the Board's recommendation would be submitted with the Board's prior
recommendation.
Janine Ball, 1914 Springs Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concern of the
lot widths in regards to the size of the home.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "BASED ON THE FINDINGS
UNDER ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR, THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR
BULLETS THAT ARE CONTAINED THEREIN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO
THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THEY HOLD A FIRST TRANSMITTAL
PUBLIC HEARING AND TRANSMIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THE PROPOSED LARGE SCALE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, LG-CPA-2-99 TO CHANGE FROM
COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE MAP (FLUM) DESIGNATION R-I0
"AGRICULTURE" (1 DU PER 10 ACRES MAXIMUM) TO THE CITY'S
FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF "LOWER DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL" (1.1-3.5 DU PER ACRE) FOR THE ELIZABETH MORSE
FOUNDATION PROPERTY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT VOLUME TWO OF TWO,
AND FURTHER TO HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AFTER
RECEIVING THE ORC (OBJECTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS AND
COMMENTS) REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY
AFFAIRS TO ADOPT THE PLAN AMENDMENT."
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MOTION BY CHAIRMAN STEPHENS. "CAN I AMEND THAT TO ALSO
INCLUDE IN THAT MOTION OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
OCTOBER 6TH MEETING TO ACCOMPANY THAT MOTION."
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "SO MOVED." BOARD
MEMBER ROSANNE KARR SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BILL
FERNANDEZ: AYE; ROSANNE KARR: AYE; CARL STEPHENS: AYE;
MARK CLINCH: AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
D. Town Center
Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Grimms stated that the "City intends to carry out the mandated Policy 3)c under
Objective A of Goal 1 of the Traffic Circulation Element"; spoke of the findings; and the
suggested DRC recommendation to the LP A.
Discussion ensued regarding the property boundaries; the pending agreement with the
Schrimsher property; the Cross Seminole Trail; the traffic from the high school; the
Future Land Use Map Amendment; the goals, and policies and objectives of the Town
Center.
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MOTION BY.BOARD MEMBER CLINCH. "I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
THAT THIS BODY RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO
APPROVE THE PROPOSED CHANGE ZONE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
DESIGNATION FROM "MIXED USE", "COMMERCIAL", "RUSTIC
RESIDENTIAL", "CONSERVATION", "RECREATIONAL", AND "PUBLIC
BUILDINGS" TO TOWN CENTER DISTRICT." BOARD MEMBER KARR
SECONDED.
BOARD MEMBER CLINCH AMENDED THIS MOTION BY ADDING,
"AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE ALSO A RECOMMENDATION TO
HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AFTER RECEIVING AND
REVIEWING THE ORC (OBJECTIONS RECOMMENDATIONS AND
COMMENTS) REPORT, TO ADOPT THE PLAN, LG-CPA-I-99." BOARD
MEMBER KARR SECONDED THE AMENDMENT. DISCUSSION. VOTE:
ROSANNE KARR: AYE; CARL STEPHENS: AYE; MARK CLINCH: AYE;
BILL FERNANDEZ: AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
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E. Lamoureux Property
Small Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Grimms read for the record a letter addressed to Chairman Stephens from the City of
Oviedo (Attachment "A"). Mr. Grimms spoke to the Board on various issues regarding
the letter.
The Board discussed the Battleridge Agreement; the applicant's request; what land use
designations are surrounding the Lamoureux property; that site plans and detailed
engineering drawings will be provided in the development review; neighboring
commercial properties; "C-l" categories; Winter Springs Executive Park; and the
possibility of a developer's agreement.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ. "BASED ON THE
INFORMATION PROVIDED AND THE FINDINGS AS INUMERATED UNDER
ROMAN NUMERAL THREE, THE SEVEN DIFFERENT FINDINGS THERE,
I'LL RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE A SMALL
SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGING (FLUM) THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF THE 2.5 ACRE LAMOUREUX
PROPERTY FROM COUNTY SUBURBAN ESTATES (1 DU PER ACRE) TO
COMMERCIAL BASED ON THAT THE OWNER AGREE TO ENTER INTO A
DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS TO
DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE 434 CORRIDOR PLAN".
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLINCH. "I'D LIKE
TO AMEND THAT MOTION, AND 1'0 BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
BATTLERIDGE AGREEMENT, DATED JANUARY 26, 1999." DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER FERNANDEZ ASKED BOARD MEMBER CLINCH, "ARE
YOU TRYING TO LIMIT IT, MARK, TO WHAT'S MENTIONED IN THIS-
WHAT IS HE, MAYOR-CHAIRMAN, A AND B POINTS DEALING WITH THE
SIZING OF THE TRUNK LINES SUFFICIENT ONLY TO PROVIDE WATER
AND SEWER TO THE BATTLERIDGE PROPERTY AND NO OTHER
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES"? BOARD MEMBER CLINCH RESPONDED,
"YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE".
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLINCH.
VOTE (ON THE MOTION): CARL STEPHENS: AYE; MARK CLINCH: AYE;
BILL FERNANDEZ: AYE. (BOARD MEMBER KARR DID NOT VOTE).
MOTION CARRIED.
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III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
. By-Laws
Discussion followed regarding passing the gavel; voting conflicts; and financial gains or
losses.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
By consensus of the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by: Debbie Gillespie, City Clerk's Office
City of Winter Springs, Florida
APPROVED:
C~T~,JAIRMAN
PLANNING and ZONING BOARD/LP A
NOTE: These minutes were approved at the rJoV' J..t.f . 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Meeting.
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