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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LPA
OCTOBER 1, 1997 - REGULAR MEETING
I.
CALL TO ORDER. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning and Zoning Board/LPA meeting was called to order Wednesday, October 1, 1997 at
7:15 p.m. by Chairman Fernandez in the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road
434, Winter Springs, Florida). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
ROLL CALL
ALSO PRESENT
Bill Fernandez, Chairman, present
Gene Lein, absent
Carl Stephens, absent
Tom Brown, present
Rozanne Karr, absent
Charles C. Carrington, Comm. Dev. Coordinator
Tom Grimms, Comm. Dev. Coordinator
Don Houck, Building Official
Chairman Fernandez noted that Lein and Karr had announced at the last meeting that they both
were not going to be able to attend the October 1, 1997 meeting.
APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 17. 1997 PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LPA
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
Both Fernandez and Brown said that they had reviewed the above mentioned minutes, and they
both had no comments. The minutes could not be approved as there was no quorum.
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II.
REGULAR AGENDA
A) Horton Alteration to Greenbriar at Tuscawilla
Final Development Plan
Chairman Fernandez asked Tom Grimms, Community Development Coordinator for the City how
he wanted to proceed with this agenda item, as there was no quorum. Tom Grimms said that he
would proceed with an informal presentation for the benefit of those in the audience.
Tom Grimms began his presentation by stating that in December of 1988 Greenbriar, Phase II,
Final Development Plan was approved by the City Commission, upon the favorable
recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Board. This final development plan reflected the 40
foot setback along the golf course. D.R. Horton (Builder) is requesting the buffer be reduced
from 40 feet to 30 feet.
Chairman Fernandez asked for clarification as to which Phase in Greenbriar had been approved
for the 40 foot setback. Tom Grimms stated that it was Phase II.
Tom Grimms continued his presentation, stating that the Home Owner's Association has
endorsed the change from a 40 foot buffer along the golf course to a 30 foot buffer. He then
stated that City Zoning Ordinance, Section 20-359 permits a change of the Final Development
Plan by the Planning and Zoning Board if the change is viewed as not substantial. The
Community Development staff has reviewed the request by D.R. Horton and has determined that
the change to a 30 foot buffer will not adversely affect the community, and that due to what they
feel are "minor" changes, that the Planning and Zoning Board can consider this request.
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Chairman Femandez mentioned that in the mail-out that he received, on page 4, under
Findings, Item III, the second bullet - indicates that there was no indication of a 40 foot setback
on the Final Development Plan, for Greenbriar, Phase II. Tom Grimms interjected that later,
another copy was found that did indicate a 40 foot setback. Chairman Femandez asked that for
the next meeting on October 15, 1997, that the "Findings" section be reprinted with the most
accurate setbacks noted.
Tom Grimms then pointed out the properties and setbacks in question at Greenbriar, Phase II on
large maps of the area. Charles Carrington then presented slides showing some of the homes in
Greenbriar, Phase II and the buffer along the golf course.
Chairman Femandez reiterated that the Home Owner's Association (for both Phases I and II) is
in fact, in favor of the reduction of the 40 foot setback.
Chairman Femandez asked about the closeness of other subdivisions to Greenbriar, and also
asked if anyone else going to be impacted, hurt or affected? Tom Grimms responded by showing
the location of Greenbriar on the large, colorized "Future Land Use" map on the Commission
Chambers wall. Tom Grimms then mentioned that the Architectural Review Board for
Greenbriar did approve the change from a 40 foot setback to a 30 foot setback for numerous lots.
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Chairman Femandez and Tom Grimms both noted that the Architectural Review Board for
Greenbriar is comprised primarily of representatives from the developer. Chairman Femandez
asked if there was concem about the Architectural Review Board's bylaws allowing them to make
changes without the City's approval.
Charles Carrington addressed Chairman Femandez' concem by stating that under the current
Planned Unit Development (PUD) plan, the City's ordinances clearly state that the Home Owner's
Association has the right to deal with certain issues, (City Ordinance - pages 12-26, 12-30, and
pages 12-31), such as setbacks. Further comments from Charles Carrington addressed this
issue, and with agreement from the City Attomey (Mr. Guthrie), Charles Carrington stated that
the staff did not feel that in this case, they had the final authority to make any amendments to
an approved Final Development Plan - therefore, staff was asking for guidance by the Planning
and Zoning Board. This situation also relates to an agreement between the builder and Mr. And
Mrs. Chris Harris, who have entered into a contract and applied to the City of Winter Springs for
a building permit to extend a screened area into the setback area.
Chairman Femandez asked if there were any other homes in Greenbriar, Phase II with similar
encroachment problems. Charles Carrington replied that there were four other building permits
issued in 1995 and 1996 that have encroached into the setbacks.
Chairman Femandez and Tom Grimms then both noted that the Homeowner's Association is
mainly controlled by the developer. Tom Grimms added that the majority vote is the builder,
D.R. Horton.
Chairman Femandez stated that he was concemed about the City getting involved in a lawsuit if
a "special" ruling is passed to address this problem in Greenbriar, Phase II, and asked that it be
addressed with the City Attomey.
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Tom Grimms concluded his presentation.
The next comments came from D.R. Horton's Attorney, Bill Barfield. He first addressed Vice
Chairman Brown's question and stated that D.R. Horton does own the majority of the lots in
Greenbriar, and therefore they have control until they sell them. At that point, D.R. Horton
would then lose their majority interest.
He then addressed Chairman Fernandez' question as to the rights of any other home owners in
Greenbriar, Phase I. He replied that there was an amendment to the original covenants which
stated that, with the approval of the Architectural Review Board, the setbacks along the golf
course lots could be modified from 40 feet to 30 feet; and that all the home owners who have
bought lots - took these properties subject to those recorded covenants, conditions, and
restrictions. This could apply to both Phases I and II.
Vice-Chairman Brown asked if home owners in Greenbriar, Phase I were notified as to the
intended modifications that are being proposed. Bill Barfield was not aware if they in fact had
been notified, however a number of the home owners in Phase I of Greenbriar have signed an
amendment to the covenants, conditions, and restrictions permitting the modification to 40 foot
setback with the approval of the Architectural Review Board.
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Bill Barfield also commented that D.R. Horton should be referred to as the builder and not the
developer, as they bought all of their lots from the developer, and these properties were already
"developed", and it is "my understanding that the covenants, conditions, and restrictions that we
bought the lots under and indeed permits the deviation, was filed by the original developer and it
was filed before the first lot was ever sold".
Vice-Chairman Brown continued discussion with Bill Barfield regarding why Greenbriar's
Association President and vice-president were not here tonight to comment on whether the
property owners did have knowledge of this situation. Bill Barfield mentioned again that they
are bound by the covenants, conditions, and restrictions that were taken when they bought the
lots, and that they are not being asked for anything different, other than what they are bound
fort. Vice-Chairman Brown mentioned his concern with the Board's responsibility to protect the
citizens. Bill Barfield concluded his comments by mentioning that he thought that the setbacks
for the remainder of the lots were something "minute" like six feet, (not including those lots on
the golf course).
Greenbriar residents, Chris and JoAnn Harris (who according to Chairman Fernandez is trying to
have their pool enclosed) said that "when we bought the property, we looked at the deed
restrictions and we read through all that stuff, and we talked about putting this addition on the
house, because it wasn't the way we wanted it. - it was in black and white." He then said, "Ibthink the bottom line is that it's written, and they have the rights to what's there, and now you're
telling us that there is a question mark there. And, I don't understand." Mr. Harris continued
by saying that if things were up in the air, the that would be one thing, but if it is something that
has been written and agreed upon by all those that have bought in Greenbriar, then he cannot
understand what the question is.
Chairman Bill Fernandez asked if anyone else had any comments for the record regarding this
I""'"" matter and that this matter would be tabled until the October 15, 1997 meeting.
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Chairman Bill Fernandez asked for more detailed minutes regarding the Attorney's presentation
and the Harris' presentation. He also asked that Tom Grimms' update his finding of fact for the
next meeting. Vice-Chairman Brown asked that a copy of this evening's recording be sent with
the minutes to the three (3) Board members that were not in attendance tonight, so that they
could more accurately analyze this evening's meeting.
Chairman Fernandez, for the record, asked if this board was Local Planning Agency (LPA) or if
they were Planning and Zoning in this matter - Tom Grimms stated that were Planning and
Zoning. Chairman Fernandez then concluded that they were addressing a broad scope of parcel
regarding this matter.
The chair then recognized David Auld, vice-president of D.R. Horton for the Orlando Division,
who asked if the Board could make this "Harris" matter a separate issue. Chairman Fernandez
replied by saying "NO."
Vice-Chairman Brown spoke about the entrance to Greenbriar and if there was a need for more
entrances for emergency situations. Tom Grimms replied and stated that this matter had
carefully been reviewed and analyzed by Staff.
III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
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October 15. 1997 Meetina
1) Review memo from Attorney Guthrie regarding bylaws
2) Review the EAR for 15 minutes
3) D.R. Horton Alteration to Greenbriar at Tuscawilla Final Development Plan