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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994 10 19 Planning and Zoning Board Regular Minutes city of winter springs. Florida Planninq and Zoninq Board Minutes of the October 19. 1994 meetinq 1. Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Vice-Chairperson Hoffman. Chairperson Glavin arrived at 7:15 PM. 2. Attendance: Ms. Anne Glavin, Chairperson Mr. Art Hoffman, Vice-Chairperson Mr. Carl Stephens Mr. Gene Lein Mr. David Hopkins Carl Gosline, Community Development Coordinator - 3. Review of the proposed Land Development Code Carl said that he had researched the minutes to determine if the City commission had ever taken a position regarding the format of the LDC. His review of the City commission minutes determined that they have not taken position in this matter. The research did show that the P&Z Board requested a workshop regarding this matter at their April 20, 1994 meeting. Carl said his research indicates that the Concurrency Management Ordinance has never been enacted by the City commission. The P&Z Board recommended approval of the Concurrency Management Ordinance (CMO) on January 19, 1994. He pointed out that the CMO is usually part of the LDC, however it could be enacted separately. He also said the staff does a concurrency assessment of every project even without the formal ordinance and that all of the city's concurrency systems have enough capacity to accommodate the development that has occurred to date. In addition, most of the recent development has been wi thin the Tuscawilla PUD and is therefore vested. Carl asked for a clarification of the Board's position regarding the format of the LDC. Anne reviewed the October 18, 1994 LDC meeting discussion for the Board. (See the minutes of the 10/18/94 LDC Technical Committee). She said that neither the Technical Committee nor the Board believes that the H/R draft is something that the City should pursue. Carl also asked for some clarification of the role of the Technical Committee should play in the whole process. Carl explained that this whole issue came about because he and Bruce were concerned that, since the H/R draft was a radically different approach to land development regulation, the City should be absolutely certain what they wanted to do before a lot of time was spent on a system with which the City wasn't comfortable. He said he is NOT opposed to performance systems, he is just uneasy about the its administration. P&Z Board Meeting Minutes October 19, 1994 page 2 The Board said they had ever received a copy of the Growth Management Act. Carl said he would provide them a copy prior to their next meeting. Carl said the Board should NOT characterize one of the differences between the two systems as greater, or lesser, staff flexibility in the project decision process. There is greater flexibility in the performance system decision process for the staff, for the Boards and for the City commission depending upon how the specific process is established. Anne said she thinks we shouldn't get hung up the performance vs conventional debate. We should just draft something. Carl said the practical problem on the table is that we have a draft ordinance on the table and we need to either pursue it, or dispose of it. The H/R draft meets the statutory requirements. He asked"... If this is not what the Board wants to do, why should we all waste time working on it..... Carl provided a copy of a chapter regarding the site plan review process; a chapter regarding the parking requirements; and a chapter regarding the landscaping and buffering requirements from another municipality's conventional LDC for the Board's consideration. He suggested the Board delay consideration of this information until the next meeting. Carl said the Technical Committee suggested the use of a charrette for the SR 434 Visioning Project. It would be conducted by local professional planners and landscape architects as a community service project. This approach would not require the expenditure of funds for the LDC and would make some funds available for mapping, or printing, the Visioning report. The Board did not take any position on this suggestion. Mr stephens mentioned the BOWS Board has developed some suggestions for landscaping requirements throughout the city. To date, the BOWS report has not been adopted by the City commission. Carl said the recommendations of the BOWS Board would be incorporated in whichever code is developed. Carl again asked what the Board's position is regarding the format of the code and how they wish the Technical Committee to function in this process. Anne said she thinks they should continue just as they have in the last two months. Mr. Hopkins again argued the city should pursue a performance approach and we need the direction of the City commission. Carl said the city Manager will arrange a workshop with H/R as soon as the Commission schedule permits. P&Z Board Meeting Minutes October 19, 1994 page 3 Some of the Board expressed confusion about how an LDC could work WITHOUT detailed regulations, i.e., a conventional approach. Carl explained that several communities around the country have the system and are apparently satisfied with the results. After some discussion, it was decided that Carl would also provide the Board with comparable chapters from the Largo Florida LDC for comparison purposes. The Board would spend some time at the next meeting analyzing the differences before they made a final recommendation to the city commission. The LDC Technical Committee will also consider this matter at their November 1, 1994 meeting. Mr. Hoffman said it has been his impression that we don't seem to have goal in this process and that we are just doing something with a pile of paper in front of them. He also said that just because we have spent a lot of time of one approach or another doesn't mean we should follow it if we don't believe it is best for the city. We haven't really had much of a problem with the current code and there have not been many variances. Maybe we should just repackage the current code into the proper format. Anne "...1 think, I don't know about Mr. Gosline, but I think that staff is deliberately trying to stand in the way of this Board and the Commission of getting these land development regulations done...We were supposed to have months and months ago, a joint workshop with the City commission on direction. . ." Carl responding by saying that statement is totally untrue and the workshop is being arranged as soon as possible. He also said that it was his impression that both the P&Z and the BOA, as well as other city boards and the general public, would be invited to the workshop. Carl again suggested the Board spend some of the next meeting in a comparative analysis of the two approaches by using the Joyce rezoning as a case study. He again asked for direction regarding the format issue and the role of the Technical Committee. Carl "...Is it correct that nobody wants to continue to work on the H/R draft ?.." Anne " . . . No, there might be some stuff in there that is important...I think that when this thing gets done..." Carl "... I'm talking about it from a document point of view ...nobody wants to spend time reviewing and revising that document ... Is that correct? ..." Anne "... I would like to spend time reviewing...I have to draft things for a living... you can take a thought from here and thought from there and write them down and I think that is what we should do. It would be nice if we had someone out there to do it for us and present it to us, but apparently there is nobody who can do that unless H/R gets recommissioned by the City..." P&Z Board Meeting Minutes October 19, 1994 page 4 Carl "...That is what I am asking you to tell me what you want me to do...Do you want me spend time revising the H/R draft or not ...That is a yes or a no as far as I am concerned..." Dave Hopkins suggested the staff provide the Board wi th some examples of a performance code as a comparison with a conventional code. He further requested that the Board be involved in the City commission workshop on this issue. Mr. Hopkins moved that we recommend to the City commission that a j oint workshop be conducted between this Board and the ci ty Commission and Henigar and Ray as to the direction to the P&Z Board in completing the LDC. Art Hoffman seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous. Anne asked the Recording Secretary to send a letter that she dictated in this regard. Art asked if there were some things which the Board could be discussing in the interim before the workshop. Carl said that he had provided the Board with a memo dated August 17, 1994 that outlined two pages of issues that need to be addressed regardless of which type of code is developed. See the attached list. Carl asked whether the Board wanted him to prepare some excerpts from the Largo code for the next meeting. It was the consensus of the Board to do that. 4. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 PM. Respectfully Submitted, Shir~?~ra~~ ~ Prepared October 24, 1994 THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 2, 1994 AT 7:00 PM. This document is a summary of the Planning and Zoning Board actions at this meeting. The audiotapes of all meetings are maintained in the permanent records of the City of Winter Springs. ~",-",