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Planning & Zoning Board Minutes
Wednesday, September 01,1993
Board Members:
David McLeod, Chairman, Present
Grace Anne Glavin, Vice-Chairman, Present
David Hopkins, Present
Thomas Brown, Present
John Ferring, Present
City Official(s):
Greg Kern, City Planner
Donald LeBlanc, Land Dev. Coord.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
Approval of the Minutes of Julv 28.1993
Brown made a motion to approve the minutes of July 28, 1993, seconded by Hopkins.
Vote: Ferring-aye with comment (that he would have liked more verbatim language
regarding the discussions between Kern & Attorney Kruppenbacher and between Attorney
Kruppenbacher & himself), Brown-aye, McLeod-aye, Glavin-abstain, and Hopkins-aye.
Motion carried.
LeBlanc added that the cassette tape for each meeting is available for review.
Approval of the Minutes of Aus!Ust 04. 1993
Brown made a motion to approve the minutes of August 04, 1993, seconded by Glavin.
Vote: all-aye. Motion carried.
McLeod thanked staff for the preparation of the P&Z Topic Index, and said it will be most
helpful in the future.
Parcel 51 (Hooker Property) - Conceptual Review for Proposed Private, 27-Lot,
Gated-Communitv
LeBlanc explained that Mr. Jim Mikes is in the process of purchasing this property, he
would like to put in 27 single family units. LeBlanc explained that the original plan under
the previous owner was for 197 condominiums on this property about 3 1/2 years ago.
Mr. Mikes is aware of the risk with the Comp Plan Amendments, regarding lowering the
density, and he is processing with full knowledge of the risk involved. LeBlanc explained
that the conceptual plan does not meet the code standards at present but those issues will
be addressed at the preliminary engineering plan. The preliminary engineering will come
before this Board for review when they are completed. LeBlanc asked for the Board's
agreement to take this conceptual plan to the Commission prior to the official approval of
the minutes of this evening's meeting. The Board agreed. LeBlanc stated that Mr. Mikes
is here with his presentation and there was a revised plat presented tonight which
incorporates the lot area table.
Glavin asked if there was a land use change for this property, LeBlanc stated no, that Mr.
Mikes is processing on the premise that the Comp Plan Amendment would go through
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eliminating minimum densities. Discussion ensued regarding whether this property had
been presented to the Planning & Zoning Board in the past, regarding a land use change.
In conclusion, it was determined that the issue had been tabled and no final action was
taken.
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Ferring asked about the Police Chief's comments concerning Lot 27. LeBlanc said it,
along with the other concerns, would be addressed with the engineering plans. F erring
asked if this project would come before them again with full staff comments. LeBlanc
answered yes, this is just a concept. LeBlanc explained that the Police Chief and Building
Official gave their comments on separate sheets of paper, where the other staff comments
were consolidated in the minutes of the staff review. Ferring asked about the 50 foot
waiver for sidewalks & right-of-ways. LeBlanc answered that only the Commission could
grant that waiver.
Mr. Jim Mikes, started his presentation to the Board. He explained the boundaries of the
property - Winter Springs Boulevard, Northern Way, & 8th Fairway. Mr. Mikes
explained that the parcel includes 16 acres that previous belonged to Hooker Properties
and 1 acre that is already owned by Florida Country Clubs, together it is 17+ acres. He
stated that he does understand the financial risk involved regarding the Comp Plan
Amendments.
Mr. Mikes continued by stating that he is not asking for the 50 foot waiver, that the
conceptual drawings is supposed to show a 50 foot right-of-way, if it does not it is just an
error in drafting. He was asking for permission to omit the sidewalks within the
development, but not along Winter Springs Boulevard. In addition, the smallest lot is
19,000 sq. ft., there are 3 of those; the largest is 39,000 sq. ft., an average of26,000 to
27,000 sq. ft. per lot. Another drawings was handed out this evening showing the average
size of these lots in relation to the average lots at Glen Eagle( 100 ft. wide & 140 ft.
deep). These proposed lots will be at least 25 feet wider and at least 25 feet deeper. The
development is a single entrance with an electric gate, with right & left turn off the
entrance, 10 lots will have golf course frontage. Their will be a brick wall along the
frontage of Winter Springs Boulevard. The entrance way has two lanes in and one lane
out, 5 foot median landscaped with trees. The two entrance lanes are designed so that the
homeowners will use an electronic gate opener to gain entrance through one gate and the
visitors lane will have a telephone to contact the homeowner to gain entrance through the
other gate. McLeod questioned the need for the two separate gates. LeBlanc explained
that Dunmar & Bear Creek have similar gated entrances and that the frequency is common
for these communities so that in case of emergency only one gate opening device is
required by the Police & Fire Departments to gain entrance to these different communities.
Mikes explained that the gate is a break-away and more a visual deterrent than a security
entrance. McLeod suggested that one gate would be sufficient inasmuch as the visitor
might follow the homeowner that has just gained entrance instead of calling the
homeowner he wishes to visit or the visitor might be confused and back up out of that lane
to go into the homeowners lane. In addition, McLeod questioned why there are not two
lanes exiting because the majority of people would be leaving in the morning at the same
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time, rather than entering. Mikes explained the landscaping requirements for each lot and
as long as the Utility Department can connect their eft1uent irrigation for this development,
it will be stated in the covenants that the homeowner must connect with this system and
will not be able to have a well.
Mikes continued regarding the road near lot 27 by saying that there is no intent to ask for
the waiver of the right-of-way but even though the drawings might not depict the road to
scale the turning radius was tested with different sized vehicles, and it will meet with code
requirements. McLeod questioned where the 103 feet radius is measured. Mikes showed
McLeod on the map, and said whatever design is required by the City, the pavement will
be designed appropriately. There will be three fire hydrants but not as depicted on these
conceptual plan, they will not be located at the cul-de-sac at the west end, but further up
in the curve section. Glavin asked about street lighting. Mikes answered that it would be
private street lighting and in addition the mail boxes would be break-away as stated in the
City Codes.
Brown asked about the collecting of garbage & recyclable. LeBlanc stated it would
probably be handled the same way as the other gated communities, but it would up to
Mikes and the homeowners association to decide how it is handled. Brown asked in
regards to the pickup vehicles and fire trucks being able to make the turns within the
narrow streets. Brown brought up the issue of flooding, and Mikes answered that it
would be addressed with a maximum of35 % hard surface coverage per lot. Brown asked
about the drainage easements, Mikes answered that they would be underground pipe.
Brown asked about access for golf carts of the homeowners, Mikes answered that the
sidewalk along Winter Springs Boulevard would be wide enough to handle the passage of
the golf carts.
Ferring asked if all the common areas will be irrigated, Mikes answered yes, the covenants
will require the homeowners association to maintain the common areas. F erring asked
about the ownership by the developer until 75% is occupied, Mikes answered yes. Ferring
continued by asking if there would be two classes of members A-homeowner and B-
developer, Mikes answered yes, identical to Glen Eagle. F erring asked if the homeowners
would get copies of the articles of incorporation, Mike said yes.
Hopkins expressed his concern of their only being one access to the community from a
safety aspect, Mikes answered that there would be no fencing allowed and that there could
be a provision that between lots 8 - 10 there would be a limitation to the landscaping to
provide for an emergency entrance/exit if the main one was impassable. Hopkins asked
why cul-de-sacs were designed instead of a through street, Mikes eXplained that some of
the property would have street frontage on both sides of their property if that design was
used, with the present design only 2 of the 27 lots have street frontage on both sides.
Hopkins asked about the driveway lengths for lots 12 & 13. Mikes explained that the
placement of the house would dictate that. Mikes explained further that the reason that
the one road was longer that the other with the cul-de-sac was to accommodate the lots in
the center area. Hopkins asked about the maintenance of these private roads. Mikes
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answered that it would be the responsibility of the homeowners, and LeBlanc added that
since this is a small community and the traffic on the street would be less, therefore
maintain should not be as frequent.
Glavin asked Mikes about the class A membership of the homeowners. Mikes answered
that the class B would be the developer which is an entity called Tuscawilla Land
Company which Mikes is an owner. Glavin asked if as the owner there would be an
obligation to pay the regular assessments of undeveloped lots. Mikes answered yes, either
the regular assessment or the shortfall, as long as the appropriate reserves are meet.
Discussion ensued and Glavin expressed the general concerns of the homeowners
regarding reserves being adequately meet. Mikes explained that the covenants are being
drafted and they will derived from the covenants of Alaqua, Glen Eagle, Heathrow and
Isleworth.
Ferring asked if there would be a minimum sq. footage for the houses. Mikes answered
that the prospective builders would hopefully have models ready for the Parade of Homes
in the spring of 1994, in anticipation of sales at that time. He explained the expected
builders requirement regarding roofing, driveways, lighting, landscaping, and that the
minimum sq. footage per lot would be 2,600 or 2,700.
Glavin made a motion that the conceptual plan as presented by Mr. Mikes in behalf of
Tuscawilla Land Company be approved by this Board and recommended favorably to the
City Commission, without necessity of having the minutes of this evening approved prior
to Mr. LeBlanc's presentation to the Commission; seconded by Hopkins. Vote: all-aye.
Motion carried.
Report to Board on Status of Concurrency Mana2ement System Ordinance
Kern explained that since the last meeting of August 4th, he has made substantial revisions
to the Concurrency Management System Ordinance, and has worked closely with
Attorney Bricklemyer on this document. The ordinance is presently going through staff
review and should be presented to this Board on September 15th with Attorney
Bricklemyer in attendance for any questions the Board may have.
Brown thanked Kern for his assistance to some potential new residents to the City.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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