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Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
Wednesday, February 03, 1993
BQW) ~:
David Hopkins, Chainman, Present
Grace Anne Glavin, Vice Chainman. Present
David McLeod, Present
Tom Brown, Present
John Ferring, Present
~ITY OFEICI_ALS:
David A1amina, Bldg.
Keith Bricklemyer, Atty.
Greg Kern. City Planner
Leonard Kozlov. Engineer
Donald LeBlanc, L.D.C.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
The APproval of Minutes of January 20. 1993
Glavin moved to approve the minutes of
McLeod. Vote: Hopkins, aye; Glavin,
abstain; Brown, abstain. Motion carried.
January 20, 1993. Seconded by
aye; McLeod, aye; Fer ring ,
Comprehensive Plan Land Use Classification Interpretation
Hopkins referred to the memo from the City Planner to the City Manager
on January 21, 1993 concerning Tuscawilla Parcel 51 which discusses
this interpretation.
Kern stated that our Comprehensive Plan set up new land use
classifications, as outlined at the bottom of the aforementioned
memorandll1l, that are "slot" limits. The purpose was to assign land use
classifications to existing developments in the City of Winter
Springs. Generally, land use classifications specify a maximum
allowable density in tenms of dwelling units per acre(dufacre), not
usually a minimum. The Comprehensive Plan as it was adopted in April
showed these slot limits. Kern asked for an interpretation on the
land use classifications as presented in the Comprehensive Plan, that
they represent a maximum allowable density within that land use
classification and anything with lower density is an allo~ble use.
Kern cited Tuscawilla Parcel 51 as an example, stating that it was
originally set as Urban Density/Residential with a slot limit of 12 to
21 dwelling units per acre. If a development wanted to develop 6
du/acre on Parcel 51, this would be an allowable use as it does not
exceed the set limit.
Hopkins questioned if this concept was like "down zoning" and if the
original intent of the density limits was to factor transition between
developments, as stated in the Comprehensive Plan page 18 Policy 2.b.
Hopkins had no problem with "down zoning" but was concerned about the
impact of transition between the developments.
Ferring questioned if, using this example, going from 12 to 21 to 6
du/acre would change the land use classification to moderate density.
Kern stated that what
Plan amencment. Kern
the City is trying to avoid is a Comprehensive
had conferred with Attorney Bricklemyer and
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Bricklemyer found no problem with Kern's interpretation. Kern added
that in the discussion of Land Use Regulations(LDRs) the concern over
transition between developments would be addressed through the
buffering standards.
Hopkins questioned page 18 Policy 2.a. of the Comprehensive Plan(Camp
Plan) reference to "lot spli tt ing" and how it would apply wi th this
eXaI'T(>le. Could the developer down zone this development and in
addition split that lot to accommodate the rest of that density with
this piece of property? LeBlanc answered that this could not happen
because Parcel 51 has never been platted. Hopkins raised the same
question if the property had already been platted. LeBlanc answered
that what usually happens is that the property is replatted. In
addition, for Tuscawilla there are same deed restrictions which
prevent lot splits.
Hopkins questioned the possibility of a multi dwelling unit within a
single dwelling unit property due to the allowance of lot splitting.
Kern answered that the Comp Plan would not allow this because the
development still has a maximum allowable density of 21 dua and even
if lot splitting was allowed each new lot would have to meet the same
standards. LeBlanc assured the Board that in that situation there
would be a conceptual plan brought before this Board for their
approva 1 .
McLeod questioned what would happen in the future and who would be
protecting the people that have the properties adjacent to and the
same property. Kern stated that using the LDRs there would be
buffering standards between the two incompatible uses.
Br icklemyer added that we may not want to allow lower density in an
area designated for higher density. The standard structure of density
limitations in the Camp Plan states up to "X aoount" units, then when
a proposal is evaluated against the neighborhood and what the Camp
Plan designates are, etc., and a decision is made which sets a
precedence for the neighborhood. The current Camp Plan has high
density defined at 9.1 to 12.0 dua, if the proposal is for 7.5 dua,
would this be acceptable? There may be a need to make an amendment to
the Camp Plan to set minimum density, which is unusual, or clarify
that these slot limits are preferred density but that lower density
could be permitted under circumstances providing that it is compatible
wi th the neighborhood. It wi 11 need to be done in the Comp Plan and
tailored in the LORs, as well.
Hopkins asked Kern for his recommendation on how the City should
proceed with this interpretation'? Kern stated that he felt it would
be favorable for the whole development review process, to make a
determination that lower density is an allowable use in a land use
classification subject to review of the conceptual plan for that
particular development. If there was a case where large incompatible
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land uses existed in te~ of density! as the conceptual plan is
rev iewed there would be a rm.ndate for larger buffers as out! ined in
URs. The City is trying to avoid COOl> Plan amenanents! if the
proposed density is below the amount specified in the plan.
Hopkins asked Kern to elaborate on the process of (~amp Plan
amendments. Kern answered that the process is estirm.ted to take six
to nine months. It would involve gathering inforrm.tion to explain the
changes to the (~Plan-text,rm.p,etc to be discussed before this
Board with public hearings in addition to the City Commission. It
will be transmitted to DCA, then transmitted to various agencies for
their review, back to DCA, then back to us in the fonn of an OCR
report. We rm.ke the necessary changes, go through public hearing, and
send it back to DCA for final approval. Due to the long process, it
can only be done twice a year. The State is looking into ways of
shorting the process. Ferring asked if the package to DCA could
encompass several amendments at the same time to expedite the process.
Kern explained that this is how he was handling the first set of
amendments, he presently has sixteen issues.
Bricklemyer again explained that if we have a development of 10 acres
where the density was I dua, but they are in a designation that allows
6 dua, the potential still exists for someone to ask for that higher
density. However, the developer would have to go through the process
of coming before this Board in order to get it approved; new plat,
conceptual plan, etc.
Bricklemyer asked the Board to consider a situation where minimum
density would not be advantageous, where there was an issue of an
environmentally sensitive area within the property which would not
allow the minimum density to be met. An example of 5 acres with a
mininun densi ty of 9 dua would yield a mi nimum of 45 dwell ings! but
due to the presence of the environmental sensitive area within the
property, only 40 dwellings would fit this configuration.
McLeod and Glavin raised the question of vested rights on this issue
and Bricklemyer explained that vested rights would not be an issue
because their approval must have came before the adoption of the Comp
Plan. /
Ferring asked Atty. Bricklemyer for his recommendation on this issue
and Atty. Bricklemyer stated that he agreed with Mr. Kern's
interpretation that the Camp PLan has set a rm.xinun density for a land
use classification and that as long as each application is evaluated
against all the planning standards. we would allow the rm.ximum if it
fits or below the rm.ximum if it fits.
McLeod restated Kricklemyef's comment to mean that the Camp Plan
should only have rm.ximum densi ty, el iminate mininun dens i ty, and deal
with each application on an individual basis to see if it meets the
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planning standards, without require them to slide out of the slot
limi t.
Ferring questioned the availability of a map showing the undeveloped
parts of the City with their land use classification, which he felt
would be helpful for further discussion on this issue. LeBlanc
answered that the map would be prepared showing the undeveloped parts
of the City with corresponding acreage and it would be brought before
the Board at a future time.
Hopkins stated that the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Classification
Interpretation would be tabled to our next regularly scheduled meeting
awaiting additional information.
Land Development ReRulations Review - Chapter 2
Kern stated that the Planning and Zoning Board's role as the LocaL
Planning Agency is to review the LDRs in order to implement the
policies of the (:amp Plan. He explained that there needs to be a
careful review of the existing codes, provisions of the Camp Plan, the
draft LDRs, in order to arrive at UDRs which will reflect how we will
enforce our Comp Plan. There is a l.1.){ Review SubcOO111ittee, consisting
of LeBlanc, Kozlov, and ~self, which reviews chapter by chapter or
section by section, calling in the appropriate staff members for
cOO111ent. The necessary changes are made to the draft LDRs and
provided to the City Manager, then brought before this Board. In
addition, the definitions are being transferred to Chapter 1 to
clarify any existing inconsistency.
Glavin asked why, regarding Section 2.03.02, the density standards
were not listed but refers to the Winter Springs Camp Plan. Kern
answered that Land Developnent Model Code speci tied not to restate the
definition of land use classification in terms of density and
intensity in this section, that it should only be in the Camp Plan.
However, densities are stated in a later section, found on our page 2-
10 of this draft LDRs. In addition she stated that if the Comp Plan
was amended that this document would need reVISIon as well, and
recOO111ended changing the title of colUTl'l 2 to read only "Density" and
changing the footnote to read "Density allowable subject to
developnent mininun requirements" after further input fran McLeod.
Kern outlined Section 2.03.031 as basically being set up to explain
hGW the uses are grouped together. Section 2.03.032 is basically out
of model code which sets up generic or general uses-residential,
institutional, outdoor recreational, professional service and office,
general coomercial, high density c<mnercial, public service/utility,
and industr ial . Sect ion 2.0].04 "Uses Allowed \\I i thi n Land Use
Classifications", looks at each one of our land use classification and
detennines which general uses are allowable In that land use
class i f icat ion.
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Bricklemyer questioned on page 2-2 Section 2.03.031 "Whenever a use is
not specifically stated in Section 2.03.04, the Planning and Zoning
Board shall make a recommendation to the City Commission regarding the
detennination", the Board and staff collaborated with input fran
Glavin, McLeod, Hopkins, Bricklemyer and Kern, and collectively
recommended the afor~ntioned changes.
Kern introduced Section 2..03.032 'Types of Uses" which covers pages 2-
2 through 2-6. Hopkins questiom~d Section 11-lnsti tutional and asked
where the City stood for the issue of preventing or encouraging those
kinds of entities and their whereabouts. Kern answered that the Comp
Plan states on page 21 Policy 2. "sites for new school are
available in any land use classification". LeBlanc added that the
State instituted that rule.
Glavin questioned Section E-(~neral Commercial #7 and wanted to know
why it was being deleted. Kern pointed out that it was being added.
LeBlanc added that the maximum gross floor area should be changed to
1,250 square feet fran the stated 2,500 square feet. Kern agreed.
Discussion ensued regarding Section E-General Commercial #19, produce
stands, with the Board and staff. Points that were addressed were:
which Board this issue who cane before, how is this issue handled
presently-is building pennit issued, what are the costs for pennits,
are any fees waived, etc. No detennination was made concerning this
issue and Hopkins asked Kern to look into how other cities were
addressing this issue regarding roadside stands and report back to the
Board with his findings.
Ferring asked why roadside stands was deleted from High Intensity
Commercial and Kern answered that this was done to place it in an area
which is more suitable based on the level of traffic generation.
LeBlanc suggested that #4, Bars & Night Clubs. in High Intensity
Commercial should be moved to General (:ommercial because these types
of businesses are already in allowable land IJses for Commercial.
Brown suggested an alternative method of review for upcomIng meetings
which would allow for the movement of issues requiring substantial
discussion to the end of the discussion, to produce a greater level of
accomplishment for the agreed upon issues. Board agreed to adopt this
recommended method at the next meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary 8 February 1993