HomeMy WebLinkAbout1991 03 19 Planning and Zoning Board Workshop Minutes
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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
March 19, 1991
Special Comprehensive Plan Workshop
BOARD MEMBERS:
David Hopkins, Chairman, Present
David McLeod, Vice-Chairman, Present
John Horan, Absent
Martin Trencher, Present
John Ferring, Present
CITY OFFICIAL:
J. Koch, Dir. Adm./Comp.
Planning
The meeting was called to order by Hopkins at 7:30 p.m.
Hopkins requested McLeod to review the content of the last P & Z
Board meeting, for which Hopkins was absent. McLeod stated the
elements should be gone over on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis to
determine as a consensus whether the text contains the wishes of
the Board. Lee Worsham was to look into an extension in the
filing of the Plan and discuss it with the City Manager.
Ferring added the Commission reviewed the Plan at Monday night's
meeting (3/18) and it was his understanding that no substantive
changes may be made to the plan at this time. Worsham replied
the pUblic has had ample notice of the potential for review of
the Plan. Further, changes can be made after the initial
transmittal to the State but prior to adoption. Hopkins asked
Worsham if changes can be made after the public hearings have
been made. Worsham stated changes could be made, but probably
shouldn't. Changes should occur prior to initial transmittal so
as not to upset the State's review of the Plan. Substantive
principles should be set now; language changes can occur later.
Hopkins stated as noted in September, 1989, the Board's role is
to provide substantive input to the Plan while staff adds
procedural and administrative aspects. Koch noted that the
Commission has made a few suggestions regarding the substantive
portion of the Plan which should be review and possibly
incorporated. Beyond that, the substance has come from the Board
over the past year after public meetings and discussions and
shouldn't be changed to meet current opinion. The substance of
the Plan should reflect the opinions and preferences of the
pUblic first and foremost.
Worsham stated that he has discussed the matter with the City
Manager and was instructed to assist in the process to make sure
the Plan was transmitted April 1st. Changes can be made by the
Commission if they have such input during next Monday's meeting
(3/25). Trencher asked Worsham what the statutes say about the
Plan reflecting the public's wishes versus the Board's or
Commission's input. Worsham stated the Commission has the final
responsibility to adopt the Plan while the Board has the
responsibility to develop and recommend the Plan to the
Commission. McLeod asked if the Board has to vote on the Plan
prior to forwarding to the Commission. Hopkins directed the
question to Worsham - the Board recommends approval, denial, or
approval with modifications. Worsham affirmed. McLeod stated
that if the Board disapproves the Plan and it's forwarded to the
Commission who will ultimately forward it to the State, what is
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the purpose of further Board input. It was McLeod's
understanding that tonight's meeting was to go through the
question areas of the plan, have them taken out or revised; but
if the above scenario is true, why continue. Hopkins stated he
had a couple of question areas but he sees the substantive
portion has come from the general pUblic's interest.
Trencher inquired about his requests from the previous Board
meeting regarding an inventory of revised legislations and a
visual graphic of land uses. Koch replied these were
administrative manners directed by the City Manager who stated
these items need not be addressed by the Board. Trencher also
asked if the Plan had been forwarded to counsel for review for
consistency with the law and statutes. Koch replied she had a
document forwarded by the state which she can fill out to answer
these concerns - she did not want a duplication of effort with
Worsham. Worsham replied he has been requested to review the
Plan and comment as quickly as possible to meet the April 1 date.
Trencher asked about expanded definitions of the town center,
affordable housing, commercial design and performance standards.
Koch replied two "of the questions on affordable housing were just
answered during Monday night's Commission meeting; the town
center vision is Koch's and she will prepare administrative
paragraphs to elaborate. Further, the mixed-use zone definition
and performance standards will be elaborated later as the support
material that exists is further reviewed. The main point in the
Plan is to take this flexible performance standard approach.
Trencher asked if the Board will have the opportunity to review
the Plan in its entirety prior to forwarding to the Commission;
also will the Commission receive the Plan in its entirety prior
to their vote on transmission to the state. Koch replied the
Plan will be presented in its entirety; all support documents
have been available for some time. Trencher asked Worsham what
his part will be in the review of the Plan and what in what form
will it be passed on to the Board and the Commission." Worsham
replied that he reviewed the Land Use Element and it is too. big a
pill to swallow while trying to meet the deadline. There would
be no time for Koch to digest Worsham's comments, then have them
approved by the Board. Hopkins asked Worsham hadn't he been
reviewing the elements and returning comments to Koch as he was
presented with the elements. Worsham stated he had, however, he
has not provided a detailed review of any of the elements. Koch
pointed out that these matters are not pertaining to the
substance of the Plan but are administrative matters. Worsham
stated he had provided comments on the elements as they were
transmitted to him. He continued by stating the Plan must be
reviewed in its entirety to ensure internal consistency and he
wouldn't provide heavy evaluation till the Plan was completed.
Trencher requested the Board and Worsham go through the Land Use
Element, focusing on Worsham's comments. Trencher asked Worsham
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if he believed there were portions of this element that would
require his recommendations to be added prior to transmission to
the state to meet the letter of the law. Worsham replied that
the current Land Use Element as it's written would not be in
, compliance with rule 9J-5. This would not cause any difficulty
with the State, but modifications should be made to meet the
specificity and detail required by 9J-5.
Worsham began a review of the Land Use Element. In general, he
had questions about several terms which were not defined in the
Plan nor recognized bY9J-5, like "natural features",
"environmentally valuable land", "protected zones". H.estated
9J-5 requires you to look at all the land in the City you want to
develop or not develop,. then designate sensitive/conservation
land, identify significant natural resources and map them. At
that point, you review all the vacant land and designate general
land uses for those lands - conservation, public, schools,
conservation. You don't have to specify type of residential,
just general residential use. Population projections made by the
City must coincide with the projected land uses. Plan must
facilitate the future land uses designated.
Worsham continued with a detailed review. Under goal I, page 2,
there were 11 land uses, yet the goal only presents 3 uses. Koch
replied the stated land uses are the macro division,to,be
refined later. Worsham noted that the subsequent objective A is
not measurable with the terminology "whenever possible".
Worsham stated he did not know how natural features was defined.
When the future land use map is prepared, you must have a
conservation land use. All categories of.land use required by
9J-5 must be on the map. REgarding the policies starting on page
2, number 1 through 4, Worsham didn't believe they would be the
process to accomplish the stated goal to have distinct
boundaries. The intent is not clear enough~
Worsham continued, stating generalized development schemes (GOS)
was not a defined term - are they neighborhoods? In objective B,
he questioned the use of buffers in just planning areas, and
suggested they be used wherever incompatible land uses arise in
the City. On page 5, objective A, he questioned the term
environmentally valuable land - is it different from natural
features? Hopkins clarified that the term is synonymous with
environmentally sensitive lands. In the policies, regarding the
land use category conservation, Worsham stated development should
not be completely excluded from these areas. While the cost to
develop this land may be high, in terms of mitigation 2-tO-lplus
other costs, potential development should not be totally
excluded. policy 2 requiring pUblic ownership of lands
containing major natural features of the City - may require the
City .to purchase all creeks or wetlands necessitating large
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capital outlays. Policy 3 is fine as it addresses the donation
of land to the city. Policy 4 is more of a goal - attempt to
obtain retroactively pUblic dedication. DCA will require a
detailed program to be stated. Objective B discusses 'creating a
protective zone, a defined term, surrounding natural features,
which may include wetlands but may not be limited to wetlands.
Worsham questioned policy 1, page 7, especially the term
environmental concern overlay - is it synonYmous with protective
zone? He also questioned the definition and criteria of a
professional environmentalist.
Worsham noted goal 3 was correctly worded, deducting property
City wants preserved from what can be developed, then assign land
uses to the balance of the property. He has a written analysis
covering the Land Use Element which will be made available to the
Board.
Koch noted that cross-referencing is still required to answer
many of the issues Worsham noted, as they are presented in other
elements in the Plan. Worsham believes the substance of the Plan
is all here, it just needs to be tied together.
Trencher noted that Worsham's review of the Land Use Element
illustrates the value of the attorney's review in specifying
those areas which need to be shored up. This process should be
continued with the remaining elements. Hopkins believes the
general required substance is already in the Plan. The document
can be reviewed and revised after it has been submitted and
returned to the Board. McLeod reiterated Trencher's concerns,
and believes we should proceed with this review strategy over the
next several days prior to submitting the Plan to the Commission.
McLeod objected with policy 2 regarding the public ownership of
environmentally sensitive land - specifically why would the City
want the liability of all creeks and wetlands. Koch replied that
the state wants all local governments to take over the
responsibility of all stormwater utility facilities. Funding for
this program would come from the proposed stormwater Utility.
While not currently the law, Koch noted the state is leaning
toward these requirements. This policy has been put into action
within the Eagle Ridge development. McLeod continued with
questions on policy 2, page 7, which addresses the hiring of a
professional environmentalist to certify a protected zone.
Specifically, who pays the bill - the developer? Koch replied
this issue is already in the City code and the developer pays.
McLeod asked if the Board will get a list of the code changes
necessitated by the provisions of the Plan. Koch replied the
city Manager will determine what department needs to get involved
in reviewing the codes to reflect the Plan.
Hopkins stated he was confident with the substantive contents of
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the Plan, and while ideally it would be great to review each
element paragraph-by-paragraph prior to transmission, however,
time required to incorporate all input is beyond our April 1
date. This process should continue after transmission of the
Plan to the state, while the DCA is reviewing it. Ferring asked
Worsham why he hadn't sat down with Koch earlier to review and
coordinate efforts. McLeod noted there has been little review
time between the receipt of subsequent elements.
Trencher asked Worsham if a formal vote was required on the Plan
including written comment, or is it just yea/nay vote. Hopkins
stated the Board has the option to accept Plan as is, accept with
modifications, or deny acceptance. Hopkins further noted that
comments from the Commission will be addressed in Wednesday's
meeting (3/20) as well as the review of comments from Worsham on
other elements. Hopkins stated as Worsham critiques elements,
the Board will review them till the process is complete. Koch
asked Worsham if our Plan complies with the "biggie" issues -
urban sprawl, protection of the environment, consistency with the
state's Plan. Worsham replied the DCA may say something about
preservation of agricultural lands and commercial strip zoning
and other consistency issues (with the state Plan).
Trencher requested the presence of the City Manger at Wednesday
night's meeting should administrative questions arise. Hopkins
agreed with Trencher.
Respectfully submitted,
Gregory Kern, Recording Secretary
Planning and Zoning Board