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Home My WebLink About1991 02 27 Planning and Zoning Board Regular Minutes r- ,--.., J Planning and Zoning Board Minutes February 27, 1991 The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M.. BOARD MEMBERS David Hopkin., Chairman, Pre.ent David McLeod, Vice-Chairman, Present Martin Trencher, Present John Horan, Present John Ferring, Present CITY OFFICIALS J. Koch, Dir. Admin./Comp. Planninq Local Planning Agency Public Hearing: A) Land Use Element - Residential B) Future Land Use Map - Residential C) Traffic Circulation Element D) Housing Element E) Recreation and Open Space Element F) Capital Improvements Element Proposed 1991 Comprehensive Plan: Mr. King, 2211 Black Hammock, an unincorporated area of Seminole County, was the only person present to speak at the Public Hearing. He said he is looking for some kind of consistency in the environmental program. He mentioned an advertisement that was put out by SeminOle County for the National Land Referendum which showed a very wide conservation margin. Some of it, he said, was in this City. He said after everyone had voted on it, this area seems to be forgotten about. He said in the meetings he attends, this area gets neglected. He said when our plan goes to the State, if we can get some kind of information to the State to show them that we are concerned about it. He said he is speaking of the south shore of Lake Jesup. He said the soil characteristics in two places in this community are conducive to urban use. That is in the Expressway Interchange area and in the area south and east of the Super Park. Those two soil areas will lead people, industry, housing and developers in that direction. The wild life will be disrupted. McLeod asked Mr. King if he had any literature concerning what he is speaking about. Mr. King said Seminole County' 8 Future Land Use Map shows the conservation area. He said he has been working on a map himself, but hasn't finished it. He said he wanted to find out what our future land use is, so he could put it on his map. Ferring asked Mr. King for. information on intergovernmental cooperation. He said he has gotten no firm meeting times from Seminole County or Oviedo. He said it has to be ready to go to the State with the rest of the package. Koch said we are not subject to the County in making our plans. She pointed out in the Land Use Element, the section on conservation. Horan said a stated goal is to preserve the natural features within Winter Springs as assets complimenting the residential and commercial areas. Then he stated the objective to perpetuate the existence and public benefits of environmentally valuable land by excluding it from intrusion by development. He said we have a great opportunity for the City along the south I... ,........, ~ Planning and Zoning Board Minutes February 27, 1991 Page 2 shore of Lake Jesup in that we have a great natural asset there, it is right in the middle of the City, which will loop the "center" City into the east and west of the City by having mixed uses in that area that are complimentary to each other, and will perpetuate the overall residential nature of Winter Springs. He said our mission in that area will be to try to preserve the natural features and the natural environment. What is being attempted here is to set out a kind of blueprint - an articulation of a vision that shows our concern about that and that we know it's going to be developed, but we can protect it so that we won't end up with a use on that urban ground that is going to destroy everything around it. Koch said drafts of the Comprehensive Plan are available now for review at City Hall. We don't print them up for public distribution. Trencher asked if we can have a "top line" or "key line" of the top line things we're addressing - that the one or two lines are kind of "bulleted" such as "what's new in the land planning element" such as an executive summary but a public summary so that the public will be able to find items easily. Hopkins said if we had an overview of each particular element we're addressing, he believed that would suffice. Trencher suggested staying away from a lot of statistics and addressing broad umbrella issues for the public. Ferring said under the traffic circulation element, page 6 of 18, item no. 3, there seems to be a tremendous amount of confusion about Levels of Service in the traffic element as to how the County differs from our levels of service from A to E. They've increased their capacity in their levels of service. Koch said we have two sets of definitions for level of service E. Level service E won't mean the same thing on different roads. We would have different references - one for State roads, one for County roads and one for our roads. For ours we need one reference for Level of Service E on State roads and one for County roads. Attorney Worsham said it appears that the County is trying to have a temporary depressed level of service. He said there is some leniency allowed on a temporary basis to allow funding for a "catch-up" situation. Attorney Worsham said if the County is able to convince the DCA to allow a lower level of service for awhile, the City may be able to benefit because of that. For instance, Tuscawilla is a County road. It may be presumptuous for the City to adopt a lower level of service than the County because the County has a right to adopt the level of service. Usually local governments don't get an opportunity to adopt a lower level of service than the government that has the primary responsibility for the roadway. Apparently the County may be able to adopt a lower level of service for Tuscawilla than E for awhile. That means there can be some additional development before the County is going to have to build or widen that road. Koch said we won't know until the last minute what to put in our plans. Attorney Worsham said we can amend it later on. Horan asked if the County set the level of service for Tuscawilla Road. Why are f( l' , '- ~ .""...,\ ~. Planning and Zoning Board Minutes February 27, 1991 Page 3 we doing it? Koch said we have to set up a level of service for all roads in our jurisdiction. Attorney Worsham said we could widen the road and wait until there is an impact fee from the County to reimburse. Discussion. Attorney Worsham said if you wanted to establish a level of service at C or 0, you would have to have a funding mechanism to provide that level of service. Horan asked if we could use the monies for the impact fee for the collector roads to widen Tuscawilla Road. He was told no we can't. Koch noted that some municipalities ask for 120% of the level of service set by another agency like the County. Koch briefed the board on the plans for a middle school just north of Keeth Elementary. Further, there is talk about a high school being planned right next to the new superpark. In regard to sewer capacity for commercial growth, Koch said the City Manager and the Commission have a proposal to refund the ~est system bonds one more time to generate one million dollars to be used for disposal area to increase capacity. As interest rates are lower today than when the bond were originally issued, the refund and resale would generate the additional savings. Koch said that after serving the 7200 units on the east side, only 96 acres of commercial development could be supported. Trencher noted the critical issue of providing sewer capacity for the Town Center concept. Koch noted that the refinancing of the bonds will give the City the funds to support additional commercial sewer capacity. Trencher further noted the need for additional commercial development in the City to help balance the tax base. While an underlying issue in the Comp Plan, it is not specifically addressed as a key point (especially in the Preface). Ferring said our plan is rather conservative in nature, with only capital improvement funds being requested. Returning to the middle school discussion, Koch noted the school is projected to have over 1400 students, substantially more than the average middle school. Trencher asked if we could have the School Board build the section of the Tuscawilla Road which is abutting their property. Attorney Worsham noted there might be several ways to have this happen. The School Board is a developer like anyone else. Horan noted that by increasing the cost to the School Board, we will all end up paying through taxes. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, Caroline McGinley, Recording secretary Planning & Zoning Board