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Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
February 20, 1991
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M..
BOARD MEMBERS
David Hopkins, Chairman, Present
David McLeod, Vice-Chairman, Present
Martin Trencher, Present
John Horan, Present
John Ferring, Present
CITY OFFICIALS
J. Koch, Dir. Adm./Comp. Planning
Comprehensive Plan
Mr. Terry Zaudtke, consulting Engineer for City of Winter Springs gave an
overview of what he has put in the water and sewer sub element of the text.
He started with sewers. To solidify this, he took the new population figures.
They indicate that growth is slowing down considerably, especially for the west
side of town. As it drops, it will push back capital improvements considerably.
Hopkins asked if we can base capital improvement needs on population that has
been decreasing recently or do we need to take into consideration the whole long-
range picture. Koch said with the population projection, we found that we would
be maintaining close to that rate for the first six years - the 30 percent rate.
In the time period from 1996 to 2010 when it slows down, it will only be another
30 percent.
Mr. Zaudtke said on the wastewater side, he has put together some goals, issues.
concerns etc.. Issue no. 1 is concerning industrial location within the City
limits. The sewer use ordinance does cover criteria. minimum treatment level etc.
for dischal'ge to the City sewer system. They aloe supposed to make an application
to our utility director if an industry moves in. However. EPA has been
broadening their scope of the Industrial Waste Pretreatment Program; basically
the handling of solids, sludge, garbage and hazardous wastes. If our utility
disposes of its sludge through land disposal, they are starting to enforce that
back to RICRA, saying you need an industrial waste pretreatment. It is to
protect the local entity from accepting hazardous waste that may be put out on
property. EPA is the umbrella agency over all of it. Currently Winter Springs
is not required to have an undustrial waste pretreatment program. It may be
advisable for the City to develop an industrial waste pretreatment program. That
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is something we should be planning for. Mr. Zaudtke said he believes that
regulatory agencies wi 11 require Wintel' Springs to have an industrial waste
pretreatment program in the future. Industries may not locate here if the City
doesn't have an industrial waste pretreatment program. It is a furtherance of
a protectioll factor - to protect our treatment works from damage. At this time,
the only people who are required to have a pretreatment program are the ones who
have an MPDS permit. Our whole .goal is to remain a no-discharge City.
Discussioll. The City is protected by the sewer use ordinance. But there hasn't
been a survey done in the City. There is not the continuous monitoring of
industries as they come in. What you're talking about is a paper work exercise
to educate your staff so that when the industries come in, they look for
potential industrial problems. WInter Springs is in a recharge-discharge zone
for the St. John's River. There is a possible contamination of even the drinking
water. It's mostly a discharge al'ea. but as we have droughts, a discharge area
can turn into a recharge area. The water levels are dropping in the aquafer.
He said we may have to address not tl'eating the drinking water. We pump it out
of the ground, take out some minor solids, chlorinate it and put it in the
distribution system. The long-range quality concern is that we may have to treat
the water. The long-range quantity concern is it the drought continues. and the
population increases, you have to find another water supply. Winter Springs may
not be short because we're at the end of the line. But as water supplies become
short the water quality may be affected. Those are the long range concerns.
Hopkins asked what we could do to work toward preventing these things. Mr.
Zaudtke said we could be working with the St. John I s River Watel' Management
District. ~e said if we can encourage more reuse and some conservation, that
would address that problem as well. Discussion.
Mr. Zaudtke said Issue 2 is addressing septic tanks. As our ordinance states.
we have to have a minimum lot size of 25,000 square feet. However, it is the
City I s policy right now not to allow any further development on septic tanks.
The developer will have to run the sewer lines. Discussion. Horan asked what
we can include in either the sanitary sewer or potable water elements, keeping
In mInd that we want to develop a cohesive center-cl ty cOlllluel'cial area. He said
we have a central core that is totally undeveloped that is owned by a handful
of people who have owned the property for extended periods of time. Attorney
Worsham said he would look into it. Horan said the flex zoning for the entire
area means that all of the people in a particular area are going to be subject
to the same kinds of restrictions in terms of esthetics and development. He
asked if there is some aspll'ational language or policy or goal that we can put
in one of the other elements that might encourage the same kind of cooperation.
Koch asked if we could pre-design that the same way we pI'e-designed the collector
roads. Could we have a proposed master water and sewer distribution system.
Attorney WOI'sham said usually cities wait until they get a motivated developer
and then itls not at the city's expense. He said yes we could do it. He said
it's a very expensive process. Mr. Zaudtke said we could expand our impact fee
to group water lines and collection systems. He said itls not normally done.
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The problem with it is that the developer does not always fit in with what you
plan to do. Discussion. Attorney Worsham said that depending on the type of
development that goes in, you may have a range of different sizes of development
that would be going into one particular place,'and if you set up a master water-
sewer plan, based on a certain specification, you might be putting the cart
before the horse because you're going to have the flexibility to design a system
that is needed for the particular proje6t going in. Discussion. Mr. Zaudtke said
most of that is already in the Master Plan.
Mr. Zaudtke said the next item has two issues. The first is that the City has
taken a no discharge public access route for reuse (issue 4). Issue 3 has to
do with domestic sludge. That rule was up for significant changes, and the
Environmental Regulatory Commission decided not to change it to make it fUlly
in accordance with the EPA regulation. So as it stands now, FDER rules do not
fUlly comply with Federal l'egulations. As that rule changes, it may become more
,difficult to dispose of our sludge and the type of area that can take it.
Therefore our cost would go up. We should keep monitoring it so we won't have
significant costs. Mr. Zaudtke said he could give us the regulatory costs of
getting rid of sludge later. He said it is being spread on farm land. We have
a contract. We are not being paid for slUdge. He said on the east side to get
the additional digester capacity it will cost about $625,000 which would last
until 2010. We have no contingency fund set up for it now. Discussion. He said
he was planning to add it as a regulatory item. He sa,id the east side facUity
is grandfathered in. He said to watch and be sure they don I t Change the
grandfather status.
Mr. Zaudtke said Issue 5 is just a basic statement that the City would provide
services tor 100 gallons of wastewater treatment pel' cap! ta per day. Thats
setting your level of service which is required by 9J-5. It I S also set by
ordinance.
Mr. Zaudtke said ISSue 6 is stating that public awareness is part of the City's
policy and the City does do public announceDlents etc. through the billing system
- moratoriums for water usage, etc..
Under Goals, Objectives and Policies, your basic goal Is to pI'ovide an adequate
enVironmentally acceptable sanitary sewer system for the Winter Springs service
area. You li!stablish your minimum level of service which is Policy No. 1. We've
already established things like secondary treatment of filtration of high level
disinfection for public access effluent. By ordinance we I ve got a sewer use
ordinance and a reclaimed water ordinance. Trencher asked if the development
is l'equired to actually put effluent irrigation lines in use. Mr. Zaudtke said
no because we may not have our connection line to that point. The long range
projection will depend on the population data as to whether the effluent disposal
is needed. Discussion. Mr. Zaudtke said the other rules are basically by ordiance
- connection of the sewer line. setting up septic tanks with less than a 20,000
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square foot lot. The only one that is not in an ordinance is to monitor existing
septic tank al'eas fOl' cODlpl1ance with acceptable treatment standards. That would
be when residents complain that their walls are becoming contaminated. An
Ordinance requires an application both for sewer service and for industrial and
no independent contract or allowing a utility to be set up within the City
umi ts. If the sewel' line is within 50 feet of a property line, they are
encouraged to tie in to the City. It was changed from 100 feet to 50 teet because
people in the Ranchlands objected. Objective 2 is to maxiRIize the use of
existing facilities and expand existing tacil! ties rather than setting up
satellite systems everywhere. Basically it says you follow your Master Plan and
in the infilling of urban areas, the City has a policy of having the plants run
by State certified operators. Continuing eduacation is encouraged for all of
the operators. Hopkins asked about the "pockets" in the City that are considerd
County property. He asked how waste water connection and water connection affect
those properties. Mr. Zaudtke said they affect them with expanded service to
City annexed property. Hopkins asked if we provide for any property that is not
in this City. Mr. Zaudtke said no. Trencher asked if the State of Florida
requires the licensing of the operators of the two diffel'ent Systems we have.
Mr. Zaudtke said yes. He said they are both B operator plants. Mr. Trencher
asked if we have to increase a plant, will it increase the level of the plant
to an A. Mr. Zaudtke said no, we've got about 5 NGD.
Mr. Zaudtke said no. 5 Is that the reuse program is developed and that the City
will expand and encourage the use of this system.
No. 6 is where feasible we will use reclaimed water.
No. 7 addresses again the reclaimed water ordinance and the installaUon of
distribution systems.
No.8 is already enforced. We're already providing effluent water. reclaimed
water for parks. golf courses, etc. throughout the City. We have plans for
extending to the City park and other areas to expand the reclaimed water system.
Hopkins asked If we provide any reused water for any residential units. Mr.
Zaudtke said no. Hopkins asked if that is a feasible plan. Mr. Zaudtke said
yes, thats the alternative; that would be Phase I.
No. 10 is that the City would develop plans to extend wastewater facilities up
to 2110 which is a requirement of our Comprehensive Plan. The Cit~ does designate
a portion of Its Capital Improvements budget every year for existing deficiencies
in the renewal and replacement budget.
No 12 is that you would collect and use impact fees to offset the cost of
capacity necessitated by the impact new users you have; an ordinance is in place
for collecting impact fees. Winter Springs has developed a Master Plan, and that
will be used as a guide for new facilities.
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No. 14 relates to current DER requirements. When a facil ity reaches 80 percent
of its permitted capacity, there has to be either construction or plans approved
by DER or some reasoning of why you are expanding your facility. Winter Springs
has a I I correction program and has equipment to be able to continuously moni tor
and eliminate those problems from the system.
No. 18 is a repeat.
No. 19 is a statement of whenever you require a replacement you maintain a
certain level of service. The minimum capacity you establish is 100 per capita.
No. 21 is a goal of the Utility Department to look at the interconnection of the
east and west system. Trencher asked if we've already done it why do we say
"shall" instead of "will continue to". Mr. Zaudtke said we can do it that way.
He said in most of the Comprehensive Plans it didn't address it that way.
Discussion.
Ferring asked what the possibility is of putting something in regarding an on-
site laboratory facility for our own analysis. Mr. Zaudtke said that could be
a policy. He said the City has already applied for lab certification. He said
we do have a lab at one plant and we are pursuing that. He said he would make
the wording vague in order not to commit to a very expensive piece of equipment.
Discussion.
No. 22 is reiterating the issue that they will monitor enforcement of State
regulations for water quality. Mr. Zaudtke said it is not required by law that
you monitor them. It would be something you would want to do to protect yourself
from outside interests. It was agreed that chan~es in l'egulations should be
monitored - not the regulations.
Mr.Zaudtke said the implementation strategy paragraph was a standard paragraph
that seemed to be in all of the Comp Plans.
Koch asked Mr. Zaudtke if he was proposing the same level of service on both
sides. He said on sewer. yes; on water, it's stated in the potable water element
that it's different because there is a higher demand on the east side then on
the west.
Mr. Zaudtke said in Wasterwater Improvements we're in the Master Plan and through
1996 we had Phase I improvements - fil'st Station 10 and paving of the Wastewater
Treatment Plant road - a total of about 1.05 million dollars. Hopkins asked how
we can get the funds to keep up wi th what is needed (01' wastewater impI'ovements.
He asked if the Impact Fees are at an average with the area. Mr. Zaudtke said
we'l'e probably on the low side comparati vel y. He said we'l'e pI'obably less
expensive than any other entity in the area. He said the only thing we're behind
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schedule with is the implementation of Phase I. He said we're a year behind
because we didn't have the demand.
Mr. Zaudtke said under Waterside, we had the issues of monitoring regulations,
level of service standards, and public education. The objectives of Waterside
are almost the same except that you would be providing a potable water supply.
Then you establish your level of service and there is a significant level of
service difference between the west and the east systems. There is a much higher
demand on the east system. They believe that most of that is due to irrigation.
Trencher said that the opening paragraph on the potable water sub elements says
"under condi tions of normal I'ain fall and avel'age water demand" - we haven I t had
that this year. He asked if we have enough resources for a long time to come.
Mr. Zaudtke said the purpose of that statement was so you wonlt lock yourself
into things that you donlt have control over. He said if you started making
people conserve, then you should also modify your level of service requirements.
He said on the west side, they would be considered in the lower 10-20 percentile.
of water consumption. On the east side, they would probably be in the 60-80
Percentile.
Horan asked if in setting your level of service, there are restrictions through
DCA or otherwise. ~ttorney Worsham said you can set your own level of service.
Horan said he was concerned that there were regulations that would prohibit us
from establishing a level of service in our Comp Plan that is below the level
of service presently for a particular road. Attorney Worsham said you can
degrade what you have now, down to a very low level of service. He said you can
set a level of service of your own on the State highway. You can set a level of
service lower than the State sets on its own highway. The same is true of the
County. If you deviate from what you've experienced in the past, then you're
going to have to provide in your Comp Plan how you're going to "get there".
Horan said we're in good shape because of what we've done in the past, so
basically all we need to do in terms of goals, objectives and policies is to
articulate in a clear way, what welre dOing now, and state it in such a way that
we will continue to do that.
Mr. Zaudtke said as far as our effluent disposal capacity is concerned, welve
not had the funds available to build a new faci 11 ty. He said thats the biggest
problem. He said it would cost close to a mill ion dollars. He said in the
ol'iginal report, up to the yeal' 2010, it was thl'ee 01' four million dollars.
Through 1996 we're probably looking at the same capital expenditures as we were
in the original repol't tlU'ough 1996. He said we don I t have that funding. McLeod
asked if this has to have a time frame. Mr. Zaudtke said in his opinion, no,
because you're setting up each to be able to serve the capability of its existing
service area.. McLeod said it was established in the policy that we will
interconnect these plants. Mr. Zaudtke said we could el iminate that. The
purpose of the policy would be to allow us to gain some economies of scale and
to allow us a front plant that would enable you to supplement your service area
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