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Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
September 5, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M.
BOARD MEMBERS:
David Hopkins, Chairman, Present
John Langelotti, Present
John Torcaso, Present
David McLeod, Vice-Chairman, Absent
John Horan, Present
CITY OFFICIAL:
J. Koch, Dir .Adm. /Comp. Planning
Approval of Minutes of August 15, 1990:
Langelotti moved to approve the minutes of August 15, 1990.
Torcaso. Vote: All aye. Motion carried.
Seconded by
Approval of Minutes of August 22, 1990:
Horan moved to approve the minutes of August 22, 1990. Seconded by Langelotti.
Vote: All aye. Motion carried.
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Special Workshop Meeting to Receive Comments for Inclusion in the
Developnent of the Winter Springs Comprehensive Plan from Residents and
Property OWners of The. Highlands and Wildwood - Planned Unit Develo~ts
Hopkins stated _ the Board will take into consideration any input the residents
have for the developnent of the Comprehensive Plan~ He stated that there are
projects ongoing that have an effect on our City - the super park, senior
center, solid waste program and most important growth, and with growth canes
traffic. The new Expressway coming through will create excess traffic within
our City. SR 434 is not scheduled to be widened until several years after the
completion of the Expressway. The Board has come to a consensus to develop a
loop collector road system wi thin Winter Springs to help residents get in and
out and around our City. Hopkins stated that the Planning and Zoning Board is
a recommendary 1::xXly and the final decision will come fran the Conunission.
Hopkins stated that these meetings are designed to help the Board in the
developnent of the Comprehensive Plan. There are many elements involved,
covering just about every aspect concerning the quality of life the residents
enjoy.
Hopkins introduced the Board members and Staff member to the residents.
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September 5, 1990
Page 2
Phil Kulbes, resident of The Highlands, stated that the citizens of the
Highlands are concerned that Shepard Road will be extended through the
neighborhocxi to Edgemon Avenue. In 1971 the master plan of the Highlands did
shcM Shepard Road extended through to Edgemon Avenue, but he stated since that
time no improvements on the extension of Shepard Road have been. started and no
plans for the developnentof that area, road or the infrastructure have been
submitted to the Staff or Plarming and Zoning Board or the City Commission for
review and carmnent. He said he thinks master plans are a guide to what a
developer would like to have and the City approves the master plans so as to
have guidelines as what is going to go into a particular area. He stated that
he wanted to caution everyone that master plans can be amended; he said these
plans can be recommended for change by the Plarming and Zoning Board and can
be changed by the City Carmnission. A case in point is the shopping center that
was to be put in Tuscawilla. The developer had already put in the
infrastructure and the road network and yet it was disapproved and changed to
residential. Another case in point is the stable and pasture area in
Tuscawilla; it was designed for a stable for the residents use, and nobody
wanted horses, so it was changed to single family residential.
Kulbes stated that there is no real reason to extend Shepard Road fran where it
deadends now at the City property line to Edgemon Avenue because it does not
serve the residents of the Highlands. It w:Juld be a short cut from 17-92 to
Edgemon Avenue then on to SR 419.
Kulbes referred the Board to Sections 20.361 and 20.388 of the City Code. He
said these sections have to do with time restrictions on approval. He read a
portion of section 20.361: IIAfter an applicant has submitted a final
subdivision plan for. all or a part of a PUD, the applicant shall within twelve
months of the City Connnission approval complete substantial developnent in
accordance wi th the final subdivision plan. II
Kulbes stated that before any action can be taken you need to look at how the
master plan is broken out into how many different subdivisions and if the
suJ:xUvision has not been broken out and submitted then he thinks that this is a
null and void subdivision tract and you don I t have to abide by the master plan
any longer because it has been twenty years since it has been subni tted.
Hopkins stated that he believes this is beyond the scope of the Comprehensive
Plan. The City Code provides the proper procedure for the changing of the
master developnent plan of a PUD, including an application to be subni tted by
the property owners of the particular area.
Kulbes stated that the developer can request a change in the master plan and
can make an minor change that is consistent with the final developnent plan
wi thout approval; if the request is a major change, the developer has to go
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September 5, 1990
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through the whole process; to the Planning and Zoning Board and then to the
Caronission for approval. However in the Comprehensive Plan Kulbes stated that
when the Board plans that road, it has the right to ignore the roadway there
because the developer hasn't done anything on it; the developer doesn't have
vested rights there. .
Koch s~ the master plan of the Highlands and the collector road system on
the approved plan. The road system shows Sheoah Boulevard coming from SR 434
north to Shepard Road and shows Shepard continuing on down to Edgemon Avenue
McGregor Road being extended to run into Shepard Road. She stated this is the
original traffic circulation plan of the Highlands and is a loop designed for
the residents to have three alternatives to travel in and out of the Highlands.
The alignment of Shepard Road was moved over to the eastern bomldary when Units
7 and 8 were built. This was to create a buffer between the homes and the
County property along SR 419. The only change that has been made to the master
plan is the alignment of the road to the eastern bomldary so there are no homes
backing up to what is industrial property in the County. Koch stated that this
is the approved plan that has been in existence for twenty years that shows the
loop continuing on to Edgemon Avenue with the connection of McGregor to Shepard
Road.
Hopkins stated that the Homeowners Association could contact the property
owners to suggest they submi t an application for amendment to the Land
Development Coordinator and take it through its due process.
Kulbes stated that the Fire Chief has stated that the extension would give the
Fire Department better response time to get to the Highlands area. He stated
that he doesn I t feel the road extension would save much time.
Hopkins stated that this is not the responsibility at this point in time of the
Planning and Zoning Board to be addressing this issue without going through the
proper procedure.
Koch stated that when questions do come up which are not under the
comprehensive Plan, we like to give the residents information as to what is the
proper avenue to address the question and maybe what else is going on in the
Ci ty that affects it, but as the Chairman said there is an avenue for an
amendment to the master plan of a PUD. In this case the property owners of the
remaining stretch of Shepard Road could come in and ask for an amendment to the
master plan to alter that. That would cane to the Planning and Zoning Board
and if the Planning and Zoning Board found it consistent with the master plan
they could approve it; they could find it inconsistent and then it would go on
to the City Conunission for a public hearing and further consideration. The
City would call in the technical experts, who are the Police and Fire Chiefs
and the City's traffic consultant.
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September 5, 1990
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At the present time we are having a future traffic circulation study through
the year 2010 which will look at the build out of the City and the construction
of additional roads, and what the situation will be of traffic circulation for
the citizens convenience as well and foremost for safety. When this study is
finished it will be presented to the Plarming and Zoning Board and at that time
it may be a good time for a representative of the Highlands to come and find
out the facts. This study will have a lot of valid information on which to
base sound decisions.
Hopkins stated that the Board consists of citizens of Winter Springs, and the
Board is not trying to oppose the residents. These meetings are for comments
for consideration in the developnent of the Canprehensive Plan. He stated that
the Board does not want to see a battle here tonight; the Board is trying to
help not to hurt our communi. ty . The Board is concerned and is trying to plan
for the future and needs everyone's help. We don't need to have arguments: we
are not against you, we are one of you.
Skip Drwnheller, resident of the Highlands, stated his concern about the
speeding on Sheoah Boulevard.
Horan asked. if Shepard Road is a collector road, and if there are any driveway
cuts on it. Koch stated that there the road was designed as a collector road
with no residential driveways.
Horan gave the definition of a collector road for the residents. He .stated a
collector road is designed to move traffic from interior roads out to arterial
roads .
Martha Olsen, resident of the Highlands, stated her concern over safety in the
neighborhood if Shepard Road were to be extended. She asked. the Board to take
into consideration traffic in the area for the residents and children.
Mel Glickman, president of the Board of Directors of the Highlands HoInecMners
Association, stated that the residents are against the extension of Shepard
Road.
Kelly Balagia, resident of the Highlands, stated her opinion on the Shepard
Road extension: she is against the extension.
Hopkins stated that the HoInecMners Association should approach the property
owners and ask for an amendment to the master plan. The application is
subni tted to the Land Developnent Coordinator and that is heM the process
begins .
Hopkins stated that this issue is beyorrl the scope of this Board at this time.
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Horan stated that the Board presently is uPdating the Canprehensive Plan
mandated by the State of Florida. 'nle Board recommends to the City Conmi.ssion
then the Commission acts on the recommendation. 'nle Board merely sets goals
and directives for the elements of the Plan and proposes the land use plan. As
far as Shepard Road is concerned, the Board carmot focus on that issue until an
application is in front of it.
Patrick O'Neal, resident of the Highlands, stated his opposition to the
extension of Shepard Road.
Kulbes stated that the residents could come to the Plarming and Zoning Board
meeting when this issue comes before them and show opposition and also to the
Commission meeting when the matter comes before them. He stated that he
guarantees that the issue would not pass. If no one shows any oPIXJSition to
the issue, then it will pass.
Horan quoted from Section 20-385 of the City Code, which states the process to
go through for an amendment to a master plan.
Hopkins again stated that the Shepard Road extension issue is not wi thin the
scope of the meeting tonight. 'nle Board carmot start changing an approved
developnent. That is not the purpose of the meeting tonight.
Kim Noll, resident of Wildwood, stated that Wildwood has only one entrance and
exi t and stated her concern that if Shepard Road were extended this would cause
more traffic on the road in front of their subdivision.
Hopkins stated that growth is putting a pinch on us all, and what the Board is
trying to do is to plan for it and hopefully maintain our quality of life.
Terri Donnelly, resident of the Highlands, asked about the Shepard Road
extension.
Hopkins mentioned concurrency and told the residents what concurrency means:
the requirement that public facilities must be available to the residents at
the same time as the impact of a new developnent.
Donnelly ask if the City has any plans to develop the property fronting the
proposed extension of Shepard Road.
Koch stated that the land is developed as an effluent disposal facility and the
Ci ty needs to keep it for that purpose.
Hopkins stated that the invitation did not state the purpose of the meeting
tonight was the discussion of the Shepard Road extension. 'nle invitation was
to receive comments in the developnent of the Comprehensive Plan. 'nle Board is
not looking at an individual developnent within a canmunity; that is beyond the
scope of this Board at this time.
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Hopkins stated that perhaps someone representing the homeowners association
should bring this issue before Donald LeBlanc the City's Lard Developnent
Coordinator, to seek an opinion from the City Attorney and find out if the
residents can ask for an amendment. This is the proper way to attack this
problem.
Hopkins stated that he received two letters mentioning opposition to the
Shepard Road extension, which will be su1:mitted for the record.
Tony Walter, resident of the Highlands, stated two issues he thought concerned
the Comprehensive Plan. One is fire safety - he suggested that access by road
is not the only avenue to be taken: there can be emergency access and private
road access. The other issue is traffic circulation - he would like the Board
to consider that when an amendment is brought in to the Board regarding the PUD
to keep in mind the opposition to the Shepard Road extension.
Bill Corente, resident of the Highlands, stated his concern about the extension
of Shepard Road. He also mentioned the county transfer station being put on SR
419. He was concerned about garbage truck traffic using the Shepard Road
extension to get to the new transfer station.
Horan mentioned that one element of the Canprehensive Plan is intergovernmental
coordination and it is frustrating to the Board to try and plan for what the
County might do inside our environs.
Koch stated that regarding the question of truck traffic, there is no through
truck traffic allowed in a residential area; there will be no increase in
garbage trucks going through the neighborhood.
Tony Walter asked that when the Board sets the policies for the Comprehensive
Plan they prohibit cut-through traffic if and when Shepard Road is extended.
Horan asked about the total build-out of the Highlands and Wild\\OOd. Koch
stated that there will be 4000 to 4500 people when the two developnents are
built out.
Jim Eldger, resident of the Highlands, asked about the wastewater effluent
disposal site owned by the City. Koch stated that there are ponds and spray
fields on that site and nothing different will be built on the site as the City
needs it for effluent disposal.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully SU1:mi tted,
Margo Hopkins, Recording Secretary
Planning and Zoning Board
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