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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
March 21, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
fK)ARD MEMBERS: ...____________.______..___._f;l'.D'_QFFICIAL: . ____
David Hopkins, Chairman, Present J. Koch, Dir. Adm.jComp. Planning
John Langelotti, Present
John Torcaso, Present
David McLeod, Vice-Chairman, Present
John Horan, Present
~oval o:t.Worksh2I?J~1inutes of February 21, 1990:
Langelotti moved to approve the workshop minutes of February 21, 1990.
Seconded by Torcaso. Vote: All aye.
Approval of Workshop.l1inutes of March 7, 1990:
Horan moved to approve the workshop minutes of March 7, 1990.
Langelotti . Vote: All aye.
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Second by
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Special Workshop Meeting to Receive Conunents for Inclusion in the Development
of the Winter Springs Comprehensive Plan from Residents and Property OWners of
North Orlando Ranches Sections 2, 2A, 8, 9, 10 and Undeveloped Property
Northward to State Road 434 Which is the Area Bounded on the West by Hayes
Road, on the South by Sailfish Road, on the East by Mockingbird Lane, and on
the North by State Road 434:
Hopkins gave the residents present a brief background of what the Planning and
Zoning Board has done up to this date. He stated that the Board has been
gathering information on the existing aspects of Winter Springs. These special
workshops are for residents I input as to what the future direction of the Ci ty
should be. The Comprehensive Land Plan is the City's guide into the future.
There are a number of different projects that are about to become reality and
will have an impact on our City in one way or another.
Hopkins stated that the City has purchased land for a park that abuts Lake
Jesup. The new senior center, and the Duda project which abuts the City and
will have an impact on our City. He also stated that the County will be
implementing a solid waste recycling program.
Hopkins stated that the biggest concern in the City is growth and how to manage
it. A major contributor will be the expressway, which will create a serious
traffic circulation problem.
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Koch indicated on the base map the area being discussed. There are 224 acres
with 514 homes with a total value of $34,222,526. This averages to about 2.3
homes per acre and is a low density urban area. The subdivisions were platted
in 1958-59 but not built until the 1970s. The entire area has central water;
however, Units 2 and 2A have septic tanks while the rest of the area has
sani tary sewer lines. Many of the lots in this area were left with a great
deal of natural vegetation.
Koch stated that there are two main concerns in this area, one being traffic
circulation, the other recreation. The only way out to the north is Hayes Road
and to the south through the Ranchlands. The recreation deficiency should be
improved wi thin the next few years by dedication to the general public of parks
in the developnent to the east of this neighborhood.
Hopkins went over some of the different elements of the Comprehensive Plan that
the Board has been researching: Potable Water, Natural Groundwater Aquifer
Recharge, Recreation and Open Space, Conservation, Housing, Storm Drainage,
Solid Waste, Sanitary Sewer, Traffic Circulation, as well as data on Population
Projections, Build-out of Approved Developments, Additional Housing
Requirements, Available Land, and Expansion of Infrastructure. He also stated
that the population in the City is a little over 22,000 people; by the year
2010 the population will be approximately 48,000. During the 1980s the
population in Winter Springs has grown about 1,200 people per year. The City
will be doubling in size. We need to do the very best we can to plan for
future traffic circulation and to plan now for environmentally sensitive land
in order to protect and preserve it for the future if this is what the citizens
want.
Hopkins opened the meeting up to the residents to hear their concerns.
Neal McCUllim stated his concern about the need for a right-turn lane on Hayes
Road at SR 434. He thought that the developer of Mt. Greenwood would put in a
turn lane, and this hasn I t been accomplished yet.
McLeod asked why wasn I t the turning lane put in. Koch stated that additional
right-of-way would need to be acquired because the right-of-way is 50 feet wide
is not adequate for three lanes. The developer of Mt. Greenwood paid for the
traffic light at SR 434 and Hayes Road and the sidewalk on Hayes Road.
Hopkins asked about the build-out of Mt. Greenwood. Koch stated that the total
build-out is 606 homes; right now there are about 150 homes and townhouses
occupied. Hopkins stated that the build-out will increase the traffic problems
in this area.
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Koch went over with the residents, the possible collector road additions
suggested by the City's traffic consultant. She also stated that nothing has
been decided on these roads as of yet. One of the possibilities is to .extend
Shore Road north to SR 434. Another possibility would be to extend and pave
Shore Road south to Lake/Bird Road.
Koch stated that in the large wetlands area, to the east which is protected, it
will be a complicated procedure to build roads, but this option is being
pursued .
SR 434 will ultimately be widened to fOL~ ~anes. There is funding in 1992 for
the engineering and acquisition of the right-of-way but no funding for the
actual construction to four lanes even through 1996.
Koch stated that the County has not scheduled the funding for widening of
Tuscawilla Road until 1999. She stated that the City is in the situation in
which we need to take care of our road needs by building municipal collector
roads to add capacity.
Horan asked if there is an inter-local agreement with the Expressway Authority
and the City to get funding for our roads as our roads will be overburdened
wi th the expressway. Koch stated that she is not aware of any way to get
funding from the Expressway Authority.
Horan asked about Hayes Road functioning as a collector road and driveways on
Hayes. He also asked about driveways on Shore Road. Koch stated that Hayes
Road is not a collector road but functions as a collector road and Shore Road
has about twenty-five driveways.
Horan stated that in the Comprehensive Plan we need to make provisions for
acquiring sufficient right-of~y for a sizeable collector road.
Sandy Eldrich stated that her initial reaction is to slow development. She
also stated that there are at least three elementary school bus stops on Shore
Road and if this may be extended, then the Board needs to look at the
children I s safety along this road. She also stated her concern of the
overburdened school system.
Koch stated that the Ci ty needs to help itself and to do this the City has
adopted impact fees to help with the road problem. She also stated that with
the 434 Project, there will be a traffic light as soon as the State allows at
the entrance to this project on SR 434. She also stated that the 434 Project
collector road will end north of the wetlands and there is no other connection
approved to any other road at this time.
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There was co~nent from with the residents both in favor of and in opposition to
connecting Alton Road to the east.
McLeod discussed the collector road planned north of SR 434. Koch explained
that the impact fee will pay for this road, which w::>uld provide access to the
new park property near City Hall and behind the bus terminal, providing an exit
directly to SR 419.
Koch stated that the problem is where to put new roads that won't violate any
neighborhoods or violate the environment.
McLeod stated that the Board is looking at who will be affected the least
amount in the neighborhoods with new roads.
Bob Euistis asked about the location of the streets in the 434 project. Koch
showed the residents a plan of the roads in the 434 project.
Mike Wideman stated his concerns about Shore Road being built through to SR
434. He also stated his concern of a turn lane on Hayes Road and stated that
this turn lane should be build with haste.
The residents were concerned with the overcrowding of the schools with all the
housing being built. McLeod stated that the Board has talked with the School
Board and unfortunatel y the School Board does not consider bui lding a new
school until the growth is present.
Hopkins stated that a middle school is in the plarming next to Keeth Elementary
and there will be a high school built in the general vicinity.
Neil McCUllin asked that instead of connecting Shore Road, at the point of the
power line why couldn't a road run along there, parallel to SR 434, and connect
with the road for the 434 Project? He stated that this w::>uld deter traffic
through their neighborhood. Koch stated that there is a problem with this
because of going over two creeks.
Yvonne Froscher stated that crossing the creeks w::>uld be a smaller challenge
than to go through the wetlands behind the 434 Project.
Allen McNullen voiced his opinion on the noise pollution if Shore Road was
connected wi th SR 434. He stated that if this occurs, a noise buffer should be
considered. He also stated why doesn't the State six lane 434 in the first
place instead of just four laning it, to be six lanes later.
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Sandy Eldrich stated that the more roads that are opened would relieve the
traffic on just one road.
Horan stated that the biggest problem is where to put roads to get in and out
of the City by north and south.
Bob Euistis stated his concern about the 100 year flood plane and the diversion
distribution of water into No Name Creek from Mt. Greenwood. Koch stated that
no additional water is being added to the Creek. There are numerous retention
ponds in Mt. Greenwood.
McLeod stated that any major development has to go through the St. John's Water
Management District and through environmental studies.
There was also a question whether there would be a future requirement to
connect with sewer lines in the sections now on septic tanks. Koch stated that
in the 20 year master plan there is no intent to connect the area with the
central sanitary sewer system. If this is a concern and the residents want to
connect, then we will need to know this so the study can reflect this.
Jeff Bishop stated his concern of the overcrowding of the schools and asked if
land can be set aside for schools. Hopkins stated that this issue is out of
the Ci ty' s hands as the houses and population have to be present before a
school will be considered.
Another resident gave his oplnJ.on on extending the paving on Hayes Road so as
the paving transition to dirt is further south of the last homes so cars making
U turns don't drive over their lawns.
Koch stated that the next conununi ty meeting will be on April 4, 1990, with the
residents of Oak Forest.
The meeting adjourned at 10:05 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Margo Hopkins, Recording Secretary
Plarming and Zoning Board