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Planning and Zoning Board
Public Hearing
Minutes
October 6, 1982
The Planning and Zoning Board was called to order by the Chair. The Pledge of Allegiance
to the nag was led by IJIr. Kaplan.
ROll., CAIL: CITY OFFICIALS:
I.earme Grove, present
Cindy Kaehler, present
Richard ~Fazio, present
John Hatfield, present
George Kaplan, present
Jacqueline Koch
City Plarmer
lVbtion was made by Kaplan to acc~pt the minutes of September 22, 1982. Seconded by Grove.
Vote. All aye, motion carried.
The Chair then stated that the purpose of this :rreeting is to have a Public Hearing on the
request of Winter Springs Develop:rrent Corporation for revision of the preliminary develop-
ment plan. The Chair then stated they would adjourn the Planning and Zoning Board and
call a ten minute recess. During this recess those in the audience who would like to
speak on Item 5 carne forward and signed in.
The Public Hearing was then called to order by the Chair. Mr. Alpert with Winter Springs
~velopment Corporation carne forward and stated that this hearing is in regard to three
changes the Winter Springs Develop:rrent Corporation has requested. He went on to state
that every effort was made to contact the Homeowners' Association and other community
leaders to get the residents' feelings incorporated into these changes. Alper stated
that Winter Springs ~velopment Corporation agreed that single-family density should not
be over 2 per acre, and multi-family (condominiums) should not be over 12. The original
plan for Tuscawilla had 60% multi-family (high density) and 40% single-family. The
current plan renects 50% multi-family and 50% single family.
The designated school site that the County has rejected is requested to be made into an
active play center park augrrenting the adjacent Lake Tuscawilla Park. This would be more
feasible there instead of one of the residential zoning classifications. Simultaneously
the passive picnic and playground park along Bear Creek north of Winter Springs Boulevard
is requested to be designated condominiums. All the amenities that were scheduled for this
park would be moved to the park that acts as a buffer around the sewage treat:rrent plant
south of Winter Springs Boulevard. Mr. Alpert went on to state the need for a larger
active park that would allow several sports to gp on .simultaneously. This proposal meets
these requirements and still keeps a passive picnic park east of Howell Creek. He proposed
a phase 7 to be added to the existing 6-phase amenities package for Lake Tuscawilla park.
When Tuscawilla reaches 3000 developed units (currently under 2500), the developer would
install an additional baseball field and a soccer field.
The other two proposed changes involve the redesignation of property to condominiums or
higher density use. These should have minimum architectural standards for buffering of
higher density use. Alpert proposed that on all final development plans for areas with
condominiums in Tuscawilla, the Plarming and Zoning Board should require a detail site
buffering plan for the property's outer peri:rreter. These plans should contain a visual
barrier that is at least 50% obscure when the first living units get a certificate of
occupancy. This should be designated to be at least 75% obscure and at least 5 feet high
two years later. This should be a minimum standard. A specific buffering plan carmot
be outlined prior to a final plan being brought before this Bo.ard.
Therefore, with sufficient site buffering, he proposed half of the COI1'1lrercial site on
Northern Way be redesignated condominiums. Since the surrounding area is zoned residential,
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this undesirable as conmercial. He further proposed changing a single-family site near the
realigned eastern end of Northern Way to condominium. He suggested this was consistent
with the overall master plan of Tuscawilla to keep higher density (condos) generally within
a center core bounded by Northern Way.
In summary, Alpert stated these changes do not raise the overall density; they do not
take away but add to the existing recreational amenities; and they are well with the
general standards of the existing approved preliminary plan.
The fOllowing individuals spoke in obj ection to the proposed arrendrnents:
Art Harris, 20 Sable Court, Tom Burke, 1370 Blue Spruce Court, Betty A. Ogus, 668 White Oak
Court, Jim Boswell, 1392 Ayerswood Court, Al Mausner, 1016 Antelope Trail, Charles Pascual,
1147 Duncan Drive, Jerry Eans, 739 Sybelwood Circle, John J))yle, 686 Tuscora, Ellen Weiss,
1203 Winter Springs Boulevard, Brigett Herrell, 1215 Swan Street.
The City Planner clarified the fact that Winter Springs ~velopment Corporation has so
far only developed single-family lots. They sell the multi-family (condominium) site
to other developers.
The Public Hearing was closed at this time, and the Planning and Zoning Board was reconvened.
The Ci tyPlanner then stated that she had some questions to ask the developer; why is there
a need to redesignate the comnercial and single-family at this time?; is there a buyer anxious
to purchase the land and build condominiums?; she stated his answer to this at the time
was no. The City Planner said she is not sure there is a reason for the City to make a
decision at this time. Also, to allay the concerns that we've all had as to what type of
multi-family dwellings will be built, why cannot a potential property buyer apply through
the developer for the land designation at that time, so that these questions could be
answered? Why does Winter Springs ~velop:rrent Corporation not want to develop single family
home sites at these locations? Why has the development created undesirable spots for
single-family homes at these locations?
In regards to the first request, this is not a trade of one park for another park; it is a
trade of a school site for condominiums. If you make the equation, you cancel out the
parks and end up with a condominium instead of a school site. Also you end up with absolutely
no public parks along either creek in Tuscawilla. As it appears now, unless one's lot backs
up to one of the creeks or one is a member of the country club, the resident has no access
at all to the creeks, one of the desirable features of the area.
Regarding the third request, the City earlier this year approved 50 acres of added condo-
miniums area east of Howell Creek. Why add another 40 acres now, when there is no activity
to develop what is currently approved? We are talking about a dense concentration in one
solid area of condominiums, which would add up to a bloc of about 170 acres at this location.
other condominiums sites in Tuscawilla are 20 to 30 acres, at the most 70 acres. The
changes from 1971 to this time including the proposed changes, would add 180 acres of
condominiums. This makes 7% of the area in Tuscawilla converted into something that was not
planned to be there before. It changes the whole character of the PUD.
The Platlner stated that all these questions need to be considered, and specifically why make
this decision now? The City Planner went on to state the County may have a future need for
another school site, possibly in the undeveloped area east of Howell Creek. However if a
170-acre bloc of condominiums is located there, would this then be suitable ;for a school site?
Concern was expressed by the City Planner in reference to the "parkH south of Ninter Springs
Bl vd. This is really a buffer for the sewer plant, according to the developer. Nhy then is
it labeled park on the plan? If this is true and this area cannot be used as a park land,
then why not substitute the school property for this park? Discussion.
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Input from Bill Jacobs, 404 S. Edgemon; that a possible solution to the density problem
would be to redefine that part of the City's code (44.85.4, Article 15) setting units
per acre; perhaps lower density would be the solution to residents and the developer
would be happy with this.
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Input from r.'Jr. Alpert that Winter Springs DevelopJ:l'Jent Corporation has the right to rely
on the POD ordinance and the right to propose changes to the plan. He went on to state
that these would be general designations in these areas, so in the future people can look
and see how this land is to be developed.
The Chair then addressed Mr. Alpert's previous amenities proposal being unfeasible now
because it would be exposing the sewer plant, therefore it is off. ]'/fr. Alpert then stated
they agreed to add additional amenities and he agreed to put those into the school site
park. The Chair then stated that at the fO:rrrEr meeting Winter Springs Development
Corporation had agreed to put an active park in the south Bear Creek area: ballfield,
soccer field, etc. Mr. Alpert then clarified this by stating they do not plan to reduce
the amenities but not to put the ball fields in the south Bear Creek site; they would put
these in the Lake Tuscawilla park area. Kaehler then stated the reasoning in putting the
active park in the south Bear Creek area was there was not enough room in the Lake Tuscawilla
Park for all these amenities. Mr. Alpert then clarified his statements by leaving every-
thing as is, that is, in exchange for condominiums on the park site east of Howell Creek,
the residents of Tuscawilla would be acquiring an active park instead of a passive park.
At this time DeFazio stated he would like to make a IIDtion to deny the proposed changes
because he didn't see where the City of Winter Springs is goint to get anything from it.
We stand to lose an additional park at one end of the development. Which I find is very
important to the children and adults, who I feel should not have to go 2 miles to get to
a park. It looks like there will be no park near the sewer facility and I believe that the
public interest should be considered in this as far as their comments were made. They were
led to believe that this was the way the area was to be developed and they bought that way,
feeling as through it would be developed like that. Now they want to change the develop-
ment plans. I would like to make a motion that it be denied. The Chair then asked if the
IIDtion covered all 3 i terns on number 5? DeFazio stated yes. Seconded by Grove. Discus,...
sion. Vote. All aye, IIDtion carried.
Since the Planning and Zoning Board has found these proposed amendrrents to be inconsistent
with the approved plan for Tuscawilla, it will now go to the City Commission for a public
hearing.
Meeting was adj ourned by the Chair.
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