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TREE (ARBOR) ORDINANCE RJB:VIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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MARCH 3, 2003
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Tree (Arbor) Ordinance Review Advisory Committee Meeting was called to order on
Monday, March 3, 2003 at 5:05 p.m. in the East Training Room of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Committee Member Marshall Allen, present
Committee Member Gary G. Diller, present
Committee Member Carol FottIer, present
Committee Member Byron Giltz, present
Committee Member Darcy Meagher, present
Committee Member Brian J. Oliver, present
Committee Member Roger Owen, present
Committee Member William Reischmann, absent
Ms. Marilyn Crotty, University of Central Florida, Florida Institute of Government, 36
West Pine Street, Orlando, Florida: said "Tonight basically, what we need to do is finish
up Ms. [Yvonne] Froscher's Report; our reactions and recommendations; and that
specifically dealt with three areas (charts) that Ms. Froscher had presented last time that
we did not have a chance to go over, question, and see if we approve them."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED TOGETHER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
II. REGULAR
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A. Ms. Yvonne Froscher, Environmental Consultant's Report.
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AI. Table 1- Tree Replacement Standards.
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A2. Appendix B - Desirable Trees.
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A3. Contribution To Tree Bank.
Ms. Yvonne Froscher, Environmental Consultant, Post Office Box 195305, Winter
Springs, Florida: spoke of revising her Report by renumbering the Committee's
recommendations "And those with an 'A' are those that had minor revisions based on
your [Committee Members] input last week.
Ms. Froscher presented her Report to the Committee Members for review.
Advisory Board Recommendation la:
Revision [Sec. S-3(k)): The Committee agreed to remove the first sentence; begin the
second sentence with "Land Clearing and Grubbing"; and modify the last sentence by
including "This does not prohibit routine lawn mowing, sod replacement, planting of
landscape materials, shrub pruning, or shrub removal as long as no great change occurs."
Advisory Board Recommendation 2a:
The Committee accepted the Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation Sa:
The Committee accepted the Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation 6a:
It was agreed to remove "(due to bad pruning)".
Advisory Board Recommendation 6a:
The Committee accepted the Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation 9a:
The Committee agreed to insert "(For the portion of property to be developed)" in the
third line following "Residential land".
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Advisory Board Recommendation 14a:
The Committee accepted the revised Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation 16a:
The Committee accepted the revised Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation 17a:
In Revision [Section 5-3(p)] Ms. Froscher said that she had replaced the word "Circle"
with "Polygon".
Advisory Board Recommendation 19a:
Ms. Froscher noted that in Revision [Sec. 5-3(p)] the words Shearing, hatracking,
topping, poodle trimming (lollipop), lions-tailing, and pollarding in the first line should
be italicized. Next, Ms. Froscher said that she "Added another Item, Item G) Shade
Pruning" which she read to the Committee.
Brief discussion.
The Committee agreed that in the definition of shearing the words "That look like
Christmas evergreens" should be removed completely; and the sentence should begin
"Shearing is typically accomplished ..." Discussion.
Advisory Board Recommendation 20a:
The Committee accepted the revised Recommendation.
Advisory Board Recommendation 21a:
It was noted by Ms. Crotty that Revision [Section 5-13(a) and (b) and (c)] the word
"lest" should be "Less".
Advisory Board Recommendation 27a:
Ms. Crotty informed Ms. Froscher that there is no "s" on the end of the Board of
Adjustment and should be removed. Ms. Froscher agreed to make that change.
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Next Ms. Froscher said, "That takes care of all the changes to this Advisory Board's
Recommendations. "
Discussion followed regarding Ms. Froscher's Recommendation, Sec. 5-5. (5) should be
moved and inserted in "Advisory Board Recommendation 7a:" as it was the
Committee's Recommendation.
Ms. Froscher asked the Committee to consider her recommendation to amend Section 5-
2. (!!1 Intent and Purpose: to add the words "And removal of non-native trees."
Ms. Crotty asked if the Committee "Wants to take some action on amending the Intent
5.2, to add that language." Committee Member Carol Fottler replied, "We should get rid
of some of the exotic ones because they take over everything else. Maybe we want to
refer it back to Appendix 'A.'" Ms. Crotty said, "The language now says the intent is to
encourage the protection of trees native to Florida and what Yvonne [Ms. Froscher] is
suggesting is to add' And encourage proper removal of exotic pest trees.'" Additionally
Ms. Crotty said, "So that can then move into the body of the Ordinance in the appropriate
section. "
Discussion.
Tape l/Side B
Discussion followed regarding the Appendices in Ordinance 2002-08 and alternatives
suggested by Ms. Froscher.
Ms. Crotty asked the Committee, "The question before this group is when we approve
Appendix "B", which is a list of desirable trees do we want to limit it to only the native
trees on the shorter list and those are trees that get credit when you replace or trees that
you've taken out? Or do we want to leave some wider options and include some trees
that are not noxious but are not native?"
Discussion.
"I MOVE - FOR THE REVISION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE
GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT WE USE
APPENDIX 'B' FOR NATIVE TREES ONLY." MOTION BY COMMITTEE
MEMBER GIL TZ. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER DILLARD.
DISCUSSION. THE MOTION DID NOT PASS DUE TO A LACK OF
CONSENSUS BY THE COMMITTEE.
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE USE THE LONGER OF
THE TWO (2), THE ONE THAT HAS THE NON-NATIVE AS WELL, BUT FOR
EVERY NON-NATIVE WE HAVE ONLY A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO THAT WAY
IT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
FOTTLER. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER OLIVER. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side A
MS. CROTTY SAID, "ALL THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED I
THINK WE CAN GO BACK TO THE MOTION THAT IS WE APPROVE THE
EXPANDED LIST THAT INCLUDED SOME NON-NATIVE TREES BUT WE
LIMIT THE CREDIT FOR ANY NON-NATIVE TREES AND THOSE ARE THE
ONES THAT ARE NOT BOLTED TO A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO."
WITH CONSENSUS OF THE COMMITTEE, THE MOTION WAS APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Crotty reiterated that part of the recommendation the committee is to eliminate
Appendix "C".
Ms. Froscher suggested to the Committee that Sec. 5-6. (~) be replaced with her
recommendation.
Brief discussion.
The Committee decided that Sec. 5-6. (~) in Ordinance Number 2002-08 would remain as
it currentIy reads in their recommendations and that Ms. Froscher would add a separate
list of her own recommendations to give to the City Commission.
Sec. 5.6. (b) (4). Time for Application. The Committee agreed to add (4) to the
Ordinance as a new item in this Section and to insert "Per lot." to the end of the second
sentence.
Sec. 5-5. (5). It was agreed that the word "Persons" should be "Property Owner".
Sec. 5-9. Ms. Crotty noted that in this Section, subsections (a) through (k) should be
numbered. It was also agreed that the last sentence should be removed in (b).
(g) It was approved by the Members that twenty-five percent (25%) would become
twenty percent (20%).
Discussion followed regarding buffers.
Due to the limited amount of time, the Committee agreed that the rest of Ms. Froscher's
recommendations in her document would be presented to the City Commission by her.
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B. Public Input.
Ms. Beth Hollenbeck, 633 Murphy Road, Winter Springs, Florida: expressed her thanks
to the Committee for their "Hard work."
Ms. Sharon Tackeberry, 634 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: also thanked
the Committee and spoke of her concerns about buffers.
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C. Committee Discussion - Finalize Changes To Ordinance (2002-08).
Ms. Crotty informed the Committee of the process for the recommendations to be
presented to the City Commission.
Tape 2/Side B
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D. Plans For Transmittal Of Recommendations To The City Commission.
Ms. Crotty requested a Motion to appoint a Committee Member to be their
Representative before the City Commission.
"I AM GOING TO VOLUNTEER FOR COMMITTEE MEMBER BILL
REISCHMAN WITH COMMITTEE MEMBER FOTTLER AS AN
ALTERNATIVE." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILTZ. SECONDED
BY COMMITTEE MEMBER OWEN. ])ISCUSSION. WITH CONSENSUS OF
THE COMMITTEE, THE MOTION WAS APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued regarding the format of the document and that the Committee's
recommendation and Ms. Froscher's recommendations should be separate documents.
Ms. Crotty noted that recommendations from the Committee "Outside our peripheral"
were a Landscaping Ordinance; the City's needs to establish an expanded educational
program for its Citizens, Developers, and Employees; that buffer requirements need to be
established; and the need to clarify the penalties.
Ms. Froscher agreed to send the Final Report to Ms. Crotty and the Members of the
Committee. Ms. Crotty said that she would prepare an outIine for the presentation to the
City Commission.
Ms. Crotty asked for a Motion for final "Approval of all of our actions since we started
this process in November."
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER DILLER. SECONDED
BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MEAGHER. WITH CONSENSUS OF THE
COMMITTEE, THE MOTION WAS APPROVED.
MOTION PASSED.
IV. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
V. REPORTS
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Crotty adjourned the Meeting at 7:27 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY
DEBBIE GILLESPIE, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
JAN PALLADINO
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
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