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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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AD HOC WINTER SPRINGS CITIZEN PROPERTY TAX REFORM
MITIGATION STUDY COMMITTEE
MEETING
APRIL 26, 2007
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Ad Hoc Winter Springs Citizen Property Tax Reform Mitigation Study Committee
Meeting of Thursday, April 26, 2007 was called to Order at 6:35 p.m. by City Manager
Ronald W. McLemore in the EOC Room of the Police Department Building (300 North
Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
2. ROLL CALL
Committee Member Sondra Ahlers, present
Committee Member Ethel Beecher, present
Committee Member Michael S. Blake, present
Committee Member Fred G. Curtis, present
Committee Member Kathryn Fairchild, present
Committee Member Mark Fischer, present
Committee Member Cindy Gennell, present
Committee Member Byron Giltz, present
Committee Member Dale Kirby, present
Committee Member Ron Ligthart, present
Committee Member Gerry M. Marino, absent
Committee Member Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Committee Member Richard M. Mastroberte, present
Committee Member Mathew Matisak, present
Committee Member David W. McLeod, present
Committee Member Terry Patten, absent
Committee Member Bill Poe, absent
Committee Member Bob Rucci, present
Committee Member Max Swaim, present
Committee Member Rande Thompson, present
Committee Member Stephen Thompson, present
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3. SUNSHINE LAW ORIENTATION
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese presented this Agenda Item and said, "As a
Committee established by the City Commission with a certain City function you cannot
discuss matters that could come before your Committee with other Board Members on
this Committee outside the Public Meeting. In other words, all your discussions about
the issue that you have been charged with have to take place amongst Board Members or
Committee Members in a Public Meeting. And the Sunshine Law requires that those
Public Meetings be 'Noticed' ahead of time, has to be held in a room where the public
may attend and once the Meeting has been called to Order, Board Members are free to
discuss Committee business. And your discussions should be limited to the time when
the Committee is actually in session. Sometimes at the end of Committee Meetings, you
may want to continue your discussions with one (1) or more Board Members. Once the
Chair bangs the Gavel, do not discuss matters that come before the Committee outside of
the Public Meeting with a Board Member.
One question that frequently comes up is 'Well, can I talk to other citizens about matters
coming before the Committee?' 'Is that a violation of the Sunshine Law?' No, it is not.
Sunshine Law only applies between Board Members on the same Committee - and
communications, in the last fifteen (15) years, the law has evolved with the use of emails
- emails are considered communication based on talk between Board Members. That is a
communication.
Written correspondence, smoke signals - if you can communicate a certain way, that is
considered communication subject to the Sunshine Law. One other thing that I want to
bring to your attention is that as a Committee Member, all the documents that you receive
regarding this official City business is Public Record. So, sometimes you will get
documents from citizens outside of informal channels that come to the City Clerk's
Office. Please be aware that if it relates to your business before the Committee considers
- Public Record, you should turn at least a copy of it in to the City Clerk's Office for the
Record."
Deputy City Clerk Joan Brown discussed the Orientation package and Attorney
Garganese conducted the Oath of Office and swore in the new Committee Members.
Attorney Garganese then stated, "This is an Ad Hoc Committee and has a very short
duration. Just keep in mind that the City has a Policy that if you miss three (3)
consecutive meetings, five (5) meetings within a twelve (12) month period, you have
automatically vacated your Committee seat. So, attendance does count."
Introductions from each of the Committee Members and Staff were then held.
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4. REVIEW OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2007-15
Manager McLemore presented this Agenda Item and discussed the task of the Committee
Members. Continuing, Manager McLemore said, "Make sure we answer all your
questions about what you are supposed to do and then get ready to move on into the
actual - issues. Now, we propose to do that by bringing forth to you each of the
Department Heads who will layout in a very schematic format what they do, what their
resources are and what they accomplish with those resources. And in their opinion, they
will tell you what the impacts of the proposed legislation or proposed Referendum would
be on their organizations. The basic thought of that is that you understand what they do
and how they go about it." Manager McLemore added, "How you would be affected by
the changes in the delivery of services."
Next, Manager McLemore stated, "On these Ad Hoc Committees, we don't do things by
Vote, we do it by Consensus. Does that mean that everybody has to agree? No. That
means you are able to get a majority position by Consensus on what you are going to
recommend. Now it also provides that if you don't agree with the Consensus, you can by
writing, submit an individual Report that will append to the Consensus Report."
Discussion ensued on various Legislative issues.
Committee Member Cindy Gennell asked, "When your Department Heads make
presentations to us, are they going to give us handouts?" Manager McLemore said,
"Yes."
Manager McLemore said, "The CAFR (Comprehensive Annual Financial Report) is a
tremendous resource."
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5. APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON
Committee Member David W. McLeod said, "1 would like to make an Appointment that
[Committee Member) Michael Blake is Chair and [Committee Member) Mathew
Matisak is Vice Chair."
Manager McLemore stated, "1 think we will need to do it in two (2) separate Votes."
Next, Manager McLemore said, "Are there any other nominations?"
Committee Member Bob Rucci said, "[Committee Member) Mr. Dave McLeod."
Committee Member McLeod said, "1 decline. "
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Committee Member Edward Martinez, Jr. stated, "I would like to nominate {Committee
MemberJ Michael Blake as Chairman and {Committee MemberJ David McLeod as
Vice Chairman. "
Manager McLemore asked, "Let's go with the Chairman. Any other nominations on
the floor for Chairman? Are there any oppositions to the nomination?" There were
no objections noted.
Chairman Blake said, "I know we had two (2) separate nominations for Vice
Chairman. One (1) for {Committee MemberJ Mr. Matisak and one (I) for {Committee
MemberJ Mr. McLeod." Committee Member McLeod said, "I decline. "
Chairman Blake stated, "Do we have any other additional nominations for Vice Chair?
Do we have anyone opposed to {Committee MemberJ Mr. Matisak serving as Vice
Chairman? There were no objections noted.
6. SELECTION OF MEETING TIMES, DATES, PLACES
Chairman Blake said, "Does anybody here have any problem with a 6:30 p.m. start time
going forth?" There were no objections from the Committee Members. Chairman Blake
said, "Well, let's go ahead and keep 6:30 [p.m.] as our starting time and let's keep it at
this location right here."
Committee Member Byron Giltz noted for the Record a letter dated April 26, 2007.
With discussion on the next Meeting date, Chairman Blake said, "We can look at that for
our next Meeting, perhaps which is the third Thursday, May 1 ih [2007]." Chairman
Blake then said, "One thing we are going to have to understand is twenty-one (21) people
- if we can get a general Consensus that the date is good and we can get, in this case, the
Speaker who we are looking to hear from here, and we are going to try hard not to
conflict with any of the other City Boards."
Chairman Blake stated, "We are looking to pick one (1) Meeting date. This is the
Meeting date that we are looking to get educated on the process as well as have the
Staff and Finance Department come in. "
Chairman Blake said, "I would like to set the Meetingfor May Ith {2007J, Thursday at
6:30 {PMJ." There were no objectionsfrom the Committee Members.
With further discussion on meeting dates, Chairman Blake then said, "So, the next
Meeting regardless of which day it will be, will be at City Hall in the Commission
Chambers. "
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7. WRAP UP DISCUSSION
Chairman Blake said, "So, we have our next Meeting. Staffwill get back to us and verify
the dates and time. The thing that we wish for them to go over will be [Mr.] Hank
Fishkind's - presentation. Secondly, Staff - Finance - to go through the Budget process,
the vision, the goals, bring folks up to speed - perhaps about governmental accounting
and how it is different."
Committee Member Kathryn Fairchild asked, "Is it possible to video tape Mr. [Hank]
Fishkind's presentation?" Manager McLemore said, "Audio is not a problem."
8. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Blake adjourned the Meeting at 7:41 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY:
AN L. BROWN
PUTY CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved on June 16,2007 Ad Hoc Winter Springs Citizen Property Tax Reform Mitigation Study
Committee.