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Home My WebLink About2000 08 10 Oak Forest Wall Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 10, 2000 I. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Thomas Helgeson called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:03 p.m., Thursday, August 10, 2000 in the East Conference Room of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call Chairman Thomas Helgeson, present Vice Chairman Albert Murro, arrived at 7:06 p.m. Committee Member Louise Allen, present Committee Member Nina Neal, present Committee Member Lorie Taylor, present Also Present Mr. Alan Hill, Superintendent, Public Works Department Chairman Helgeson noted that there is a quorum present and welcomed new members Ms. Nina Neal and Ms. Louise Allen. Approval of the June 8, 2000 and July 13, 2000 Regular Meeting Minutes MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. "I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE JUNE 8, AND JULY 13, 2000 REGULAR MINUTES AS PRESENTED." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. II. REGULAR AGENDA A. Update On The Transformer Chairman Helgeson explained to the new members the history of the transformer; that it "is ready and able to be moved"; and the cost of relocating any transformers will be paid from the contingency fund. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 10,2000 PAGE20F5 Committee Member Albert Murro arrived at 7:06p.m. B. Update On The Winter Springs Boulevard Median Mr. Alan Hill, Superintendent, Public Works Department informed the Committee that the drawing submitted was accepted and there will be no additional charge. C. Update On The Entrance To Oak Forest Lake Chairman Helgeson spoke of the Committee's recommendation to the City Commission; and the decision of the City Commission to accept the offer of one of the residents to provide an easement and thereby allowing access to the lake through a gate in the wall at no cost to the District. Mr. Hill informed the Committee that the design and installation would be paid by the stormwater utility; and the gate will be of a solid design. Discussion followed concerning whether there will be a traffic problem; the size of the gates; the style and material; how it would be secure; and stormwater utility fees. Chairman Helgeson reminded the Committee Members that the meetings are a public forum; and he encouraged having special meetings when needed. Vice Chairman Albert Murro stated for the record. "Just to go on record, I probably had a lot to do with it being overturned because the tapes are public record and between the week that I had and just the history with everything I probably could have used better judgement. So that I apologize for, it has been a hard long road and I really tried to keep the best interest of Oak Forest in my heart when I spoke. My delivery left a little to be desired and I'll go on record and apologize for that. For the intent of why I said it, I won't apologize for it - it has been a long hard road and wanted to make sure that we again looked out for everybody in Oak Forest. And it was ground that I felt we had covered before, really did a good job in trying to cover and that we revisited it for a bunch of different reasons, so, like I said, I used poor judgement and probably my delivery and my over zealousness - and again for the third time so it is on the record I apologize for that. Hopefully the gate will be incorporated in such a way that it really won't detract from all the work on the wall and everything else. Committee Member Louise Allen stated for the record. "Could I say something - there were a lot of untruths that were said at that meeting that was on the tape and I would like to have it recorded that I do not agree with a lot of the things that were said. Very unfair with the betrayal with the many things you said. As far as I am concerned it's over." Discussion continued concerning the design of the gate; whether the Committee could see the plans for the gate when completed; and whether the gate on the north side of the wall could be the same design as the south gate. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 10,2000 PAGE30F5 MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. "I MOVE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO FIND OUT THE COST TO THE DISTRICT TO HAVE THE NORTH GATE AS THE SAME DESIGN AS THE SOUTHERN GATE." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. The Committee requested Mr. Hill to research how the gate will be secured; and who incurs the liability of the gated area. E. Other Business Discussion ensued regarding complaints and concerns from homeowners with the wall in their back yards. Chairman Helgeson departed at 7:25 p.m. Chairman Helgeson returned at 7:26 p.m. Mr. Hill explained that Bergeron's focus was to complete the road in front of the school; that he will get a confirmation on when the work behind the wall will be started; and will obtain a copy of the specifications. MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. "I MOVE THAT STAFF CALL THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN AND WHAT WORK WILL BE DONE TO THE BACK OF THE WALL." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER NEAL DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Hill agreed to call Vice Chairman Murro with the information. The Committee discussed that the following needs to be completed behind the wall: joints cleaned, ditches filled and trash picked up. D. Review The Signage And Medallion Design Chairman Helgeson submitted to the Committee five (5) conceptual drawings of a tree for the medallion. Discussion followed regarding the history of the choosing the text; whether a "shop drawing" will be provided to the Committee; and the font. Committee Member Lori Taylor stated "The only thing that I want to go on record as saying is that I do not agree with Oak Forest at/in Tusckawilla. I like Oak Forest." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST] 0,2000 PAGE40F5 Mr. Hill suggested that a conceptual plan be completed and then have the homeowners make the decision. Discussion ensued regarding the wording; having the Association help to choose the wording with the Committee choosing the font and design; and options on how to get homeowners feedback regarding the medallion. Tape 1/Side B MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. "I MOVE TO ACCEPT DRAWING NUMBER FOUR (4)." SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. The Committee discussed the font of the medallion. MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. "I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE FONT WHICH WAS DONE ON THE 10/22/97 SYMANTEC DRAWING FROM BOYER AND SINGLETON." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. The Committee discussed the history of the Tuskawilla PUD. MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. "I MOVE TO REQUEST STAFF TO RESEARCH IF THERE ARE ANY LEGAL ISSUES WITH THE USE OF THE WORD TUSKA WILLA." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER T AYLOR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE MEMBERS AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Hill reviewed with the Committee the plan and wording that would be submitted for a legal opinion. III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS . Election Of Officer . Update By Mr. Alan Hill CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 10,2000 PAGE 5 OF 5 IV. ADJOURNMENT MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MURRO. "I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING." SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER TAYLOR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: THE COMMITTEE AGREED TO THE MOTION BY CONSENSUS. MOTION CARRIED. Chairman Helgeson adjourned the meeting at 8:19 p.m. Minutes Respectfully Submitted by: Debbie Gillespie, Ci~y Clerk's Office City of Winter Springs S:\City Clerk\Docs\ Word\BOARDS\Oak Forest\ALLL\MINUTES\2000\OAK-081 OOO.doc