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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 21, 2001
I. CALL TO ORDER
Madam Chairperson Joanne Krebs called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. on
August 21, 2001, in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126
East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
Roll Call
Chairperson Joanne Krebs, present
Vice Chairperson Lurene Lyzen, present
Board Member Ken Furth, present
Board Member James B. Pitts, present
Board Member Greg Thompson, present
Board Member Mervin Warner, present
With consensus of the Board, it was decided that Regular "A" would be placed at the end of
the Regular Agenda.
II. CONSENT
CONSENT
A. Approval of the July 17,2001 Regular Meeting Minutes.
Chairperson Krebs read the title of Consent "A."
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. "SO MOVED." SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER FURTH. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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III. REGULAR AGENDA
The Deputy City Clerk swore in those persons who may be providing testimony during the
presentation of tonight's cases.
Code Enforcement Division Manager C. Jimette Cook advised the Board that "We are going
to hear CEB-OI-811., on my Agenda it's 'B'. We're going to hear on my Agenda 'L' - CEB-
01-841., 130 East Bahama, which is Debris. We're going to hear CEB-01-881., 202 South
Moss Road, 'Q', that's right. And that's all that we are going to hear this evening and you do
have a Motion before you as well, a Motion for Re-Hearing."
Chairperson Krebs spoke of the following requests she made to the City Commission: for a
Special Meeting of the Board to review documents pertaining to this issue; that the Board
have their own legal representation at tonight's Meeting; and that all Board Members receive
an information packet regarding the Motion to Re-Hear.
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A. Complaint Number CEB-01-811.
627 Sailfish Road
John Laudani (Builder)
Owners: Howard W. & Libby A. Baity
Section 9-241. (c) (Finished Floor Elevation Does Not Meet City Code Requirement)
City Attorney, Anthony A. Garganese introduced himself to the Board; spoke of the City
Commission's directive to Re-Hear this case; spoke of the City Commission's position
regarding the imposed fine; and requested that the Board grant the Motion to Re-hear.
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "Florida Law requires that this Board consider three (3) factors
when imposing a fine. The gravity of the violation: whether the Violator took any action to
correct the violation and the prior violations of the Violator that is being brought before you.
The issue of whether the City may be of fault in some respects of this case is irrelevant with
respect to imposing the fine because you've already found that the person violated the
Code. "
Attorney Garganese further stated, "The issue that I want to stress tonight is, did the Violator
take any action to correct the violation after he was put on notice by the City that he was in
violation of the Code. And I believe the previous record is clear that he did not take any
actions to correct the violation. Also with respect to the Variance, the Variance is the
Homeowner's remedy. The Homeowner who had the home built by this builder is now stuck
with a home that does not meet City Code. The Homeowner's remedy, as the property owner
is to seek a Variance, it's not the violator who has that remedy. So I don't think that is an
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issue this evening. So again, I respectfully request that you Re-Hear the issue of the fine and
apply the three (3) factors and hear the City's case. Thank you."
Chairperson Krebs asked, "Do I have a Motion to Re-Hear?"
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. "SO MOVED." SECONDED BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON L YZEN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER W ARNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: NAY
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese spoke of flooding elevations and submitted a memo from a next door
neighbor regarding her land being flooded. He further spoke about the purpose of the Code
Enforcement Board; and that due to the gravity of the violation a larger fine is indicated.
The Board, Attorney Garganese and Code Enforcement Division Manager Cook continued
their discussion in a question and answer format.
Mr. Dennis Franklin, Building Official addressed the Board regarding the Temporary
Certificate of Occupancy.
The Board and Staff continued their discussion.
Chairperson Krebs requested the City Attorney define "Public Policy". Attorney Garganese
replied, "Very esoterically. Public Policy is the direction I think that the City leaders want to
go and the City leaders in this case are the City Commission and the Mayor. They set Policy
for the City. The direction that we all need to go and in this case the direction they set was a
flood elevation minimum requirement of this - and that's the Policy, the Public Policy.
There are a lot of pros and, probably there are some cons to setting a minimum flood
elevation of what we have set but that is Public Policy. Its leadership, its direction from the
top in this case."
Discussion.
Mr. John Laudani, 1393 Santiago Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the Board
regarding this issue.
Tape l/Side B
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Discussion.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. "I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH
THE ORIGINAL FINE AS COMMITTED IN THE LAST GENERAL MEETING OF
THIS BOARD." SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER FURTH. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: NAY
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: NAY
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
The Board discussed Chairperson Kreb's request for legal representation.
Chairperson Krebs recessed the Meeting at 8:08 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony Garganese departed at 8:08 p.m.
Chairperson Krebs called the Meeting back to order at 8:13 p.m.
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L. CASE #CEB-01-841.
130 East Bahama Road
King J. & Sindy Smith
Section 13-2. (Debris)
Ms. Cook explained that the property lies within the corporate boundaries of the City. She
introduced for the record, "The 'Statement of Violation' and 'Notice of Hearing"'; and asked
if anyone representing the owner was present. There was no one present. M. Cook further
introduced into the record a letter of complaint from a neighbor and photographs of the home
being discussed. Ms. Cook spoke of the past complaints; and requested that the owners be
found "Not in Compliance."
Discussion.
FINDING OF FACT:
"IN THE CASE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD NUMBER CEB-01-841 OF
THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HAS
READ THE COMPLAINT FILED AND THE WRITTEN INFORMATION
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PREPARED BY THE CODE INSPECTOR AND HER MANAGER, AND HEARD AT
THIS MEETING, THE SWORN TESTIMONY OF THE CODE MANAGER. BASED
UPON THESE PROCEEDINGS, I MOVE THAT KING J. AND SINDY SMITH OF
130 EAST BAHAMA ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 13-2. [DEBRIS] OF
THE CODE OF THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, AND THAT AN
APPROPRIATE RELIEF ORDER BE ISSUED AT THIS MEETING." MOTION BY
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
RELIEF ORDER - ORDER OF THE BOARD:
"IN THE CASE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD NUMBER CEB-01-841 OF
THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, KING J. AND SINDY SMITH HAVING BEEN
FOUND IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 13-2. [DEBRIS] OF THE CODE OF THIS
CITY. I MOVE THAT KING J. AND SINDY SMITH BE GIVEN FOURTEEN (14)
DAYS AFTER NOTIFICATION TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH REGARDS
TO THIS VIOLATION. IF COMPLIANCE IS NOT ACHIEVED BY THAT DATE A
FINE OF $25.00 PER DA Y WILL BE IMPOSED UNTIL COMPLIANCE IS
ACHIEVED AS VERIFIED BY AN OFFICER OF THE CITY. FURTHERMORE
ANY AND ALL FUTURE OCCURRENCES OF THIS VIOLATION, AFTER
COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED WILL IMMEDIATELY CAUSE THE
STATED FINE TO BE IMPOSED UNTIL COMPLIANCE IS AGAIN ACHIEVED AS
VERIFIED BY AN OFFICER OF THE CITY." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
FURTH. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON LYZEN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Q. CASE #CEB-01-881.
202 South Moss Road
Douglas J. Barnes
Section 13-2. (Trash, Debris, Untended Grass, And Weeds)
Ms. Cook explained that the property lies within the corporate boundaries of the City;
introduced for the record, "the 'Statement of Violation' and 'Notice of Hearing'; and asked if
anyone was present representing the owner. No one was present. Further entered into the
record were photographs and a Memorandum from the City of Winter Springs Police
Department. Ms. Cook spoke of the debris found in the backyard; the accessibility to the
yard; the renter vacating the property; and the interior condition of the home.
The Board discussed their concern for the safety of the Public with open access to the
backyard, and whether the home was habitual.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
FINDING OF FACT:
"IN THE CASE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD NUMBER CEB-01-881 OF
THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HAS
READ THE COMPLAINT FILED AND THE WRITTEN INFORMATION
PREPARED BY THE CODE INSPECTOR AND HEARD AT THIS MEETING, THE
SWORN TESTIMONY OF THE CODE INSPECTOR. BASED UPON THESE
PROCEEDINGS, I MOVE THAT DOUGLAS J. BARNES OF 202 SOUTH MOSS
ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 13-2. [TRASH, DEBRIS UNATTENDED
GRASS, AND WEEDS] OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, AND
THAT AN APPROPRIATE RELIEF ORDER BE ISSUED AT THIS MEETING."
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON L YZEN: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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RELIEF ORDER - ORDER OF THE BOARD:
"IN THE CASE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD NUMBER CEB-Ol-881 OF
THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, DOUGLAS J. BARNES HAVING BEEN
FOUND IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 13-2. [TRASH, DEBRIS UNATTENDED
GRASS, AND WEEDS] OF THE CODE OF THE CITY. I MOVE THAT DOUGLAS
J. BARNES BE GIVEN FOURTEEN (14) DAYS FROM THIS DATE TO COME IN
TO COMPLIANCE WITH REGARD TO THIS VIOLATION. IF COMPLIANCE IS
NOT ACHIEVED BY THIS DATE A FINE OF $250.00 PER DAY WILL BE
IMPOSED UNTIL COMPLIANCE IS ACHIEVED TO INCLUDE TRASH, AND
DEBRIS PICKED UP, ALL GRASS AND WEEDS CUT, AND THE INTERIOR OF
THE HOUSE BROUGHT UP TO MINIMUM HABITABLE HOUSING STANDARDS
AS VERIFIED BY AN OFFICER OF THE CITY. FURTHERMORE ANY AND ALL
FUTURE REOCCURRENCE OF THIS VIOLATION AFTER COMPLIANCE HAS
BEEN ACHIEVED WILL IMMEDIATELY CAUSE THE STATED FINE TO BE
IMPOSED UNTIL COMPLIANCE IS AGAIN ACHIEVED AS VERIFIED BY AN
OFFICER OF THE CITY. IF IN ADDITION COMPLIANCE IS NOT ACHIEVED
AFTER THE FOURTEEN (14) DAYS THE CITY CAN TAKE LEGAL ACTION TO
ENTER THE HOUSE AND TO MAKE THE HOUSE COMPLIANT WITH CITY
STANDARDS AT THE OWNERS EXPENSE AND ACCORDING TO LEGAL
COUNSEL." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER FURTH. SECONDED BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON L YZEN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER PITTS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WARNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER FURTH: AYE
CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON LYZEN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
The Board acknowledged receiving a letter sent by a Code Violator; and discussed a vote in
the July 17,2001 "Draft" Minutes which was included in a City Commission Agenda Item.
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B. Election Of Officers.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. "I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH
THE SAME SLATE AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE." SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER FURTH. DISCUSSION. WITH CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THE
MOTION WAS APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
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III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Chairperson Krebs stated, "Can we have a Workshop? We have two (2) real new Board
Members, we have Mervin, fairly new and I think that maybe - the other one we have never
met - it would be helpful." Ms. Cook informed the Board of the presence of Mr. Greg Roero
and Chairperson Krebs welcomed him. Mr. Roero was asked to introduce himself, which he
did.
The Board continued their discussion regarding organizing a Workshop. Board Member
James Pitts stated, "Of particular interest I think especially after tonight I would like to have
a session with the City Manager. Because evidently it's the City Manager who brought this
case back to the Commission. He didn't like the $1.00 fine. So I would like to get his views
on some of this stuff. I really would."
Chairperson Krebs said, "If you want I could go to the Commission and ask that we set up or
I could call Ron McLemore up and ask him to set up something for us and we would like to
meet with - right or even internally. We could even take some of the notes that we have
from before to go over."
Ms. Cook suggested, "Maybe we could have a representative from each of the Departments
as well as Ron coming in and talking about your issues but have somebody from the different
Departments so you get an idea of - who does what."
Chairperson Krebs then said "Also if it's possible I don't know if we could have two
Commissioners but it is possible if we have one (1) Commissioner at least or somebody from
the Commission to represent the Commissioners and bring back what they hear from us. It is
hard to get everybody together, I know that but there are issues. Sometimes legal counsel is
an issue and sometimes it might be something else and I think - they would themselves
benefit by hearing from us personally what we have to say, why we either do fine, and if we
aren't doing it right then please by all means let us know. Knowledge is power."
Discussion ensued regarding possible date for the Workshop. Ms. Cook suggested "How
would coming early to a Code Board Meeting and staying later - we already set aside that
Tuesday, that third Tuesday. I'm not saying next month but maybe in October."
Chairperson Krebs said, "Why don't we tentatively agree that next meeting coming up which
will be the 18th. Let's look, if it it's a problem call and we can postpone it to the next
month." Ms. Cook stated "Let us look and see."
Ms. Krebs further stated, "Look and see. If it's not a conflict - I would even like a
representative from the Commission too. I want them to hear what we have to say so that
they could go back to the Commission and talk about it.
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Ms. Cook asked, "May be one (1) hour with City Staff people and one (1) hour of
instructional?" "Yes, that's good." replied Chairperson Krebs.
V. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PITTS. "I MOVE FOR ADJOURNMENT."
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER FURTH. DISCUSSION. WITH CONSENSUS
THE BOARD APPROVED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairperson Krebs adjourned the Meeting at 9: 11 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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DEBBIE GILLESPIE '
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the ~..n'lk / ?( , 2001 Code Enforcement Board Meeting.