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COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM C
Consent X
Informational
Public Hearings
Regular
May 24, 1999
Regular Meeting
Mgr. / Dept.
Authorization
CONSENT
City Clerk's Office
C. Approval of Minutes of the Regular Meeting of February 8,1999.
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FEBRUARY 8, 1999
I. ROLL CALL
The Regular Meeting of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor Paul P.
Partyka.
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner David McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, absent
Attorney Robert Guthrie, present
City Clerk, Margo M. Pierce, CMC, present
There was a moment of silent prayer. Mayor Partyka recognized Mr. Brook Seall, (Parks
and Recreation Director) who recently had passed away, and whose funeral was held
earlier today. The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
AGENDA CHANGE: MAYOR PARTYKA ANNOUNCED THAT REGULAR
AGENDA ITEM D WOULD BE MOVED TO THE BEGINNING OF TONIGHT'S
MEETING.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. stated that the Consent Agenda Item regarding the
minutes of January 11, 1999 was incorrect.
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell stated that the Consent Agenda Item regarding the minutes
of December 14, 1998 was also incorrect.
Mayor Partyka read a letter from the Flagler County Sheriffs Office thanking the Winter
Springs Police Officers who volunteered during the recent wild fires. Police Chief Daniel
1. Kerr assisted the Mayor and presented a plaque from the Flagler County Sheriffs
Office. The following City of Winter Springs Officers were recognized: Officer Daryl
Brewer, Officer James Flannigan, Officer Fred Gold, Lieutenant Robert Heatwole,
Officer Michael Robbins, Officer Douglas Sealy, Officer Allison Smith, and Officer
David Smith. Police Chief Kerr elaborated on this effort.
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II. PUBLIC INPUT
Prior to the many individuals that spoke, Deputy Mayor Gennell stated that the flyers that
had been passed out around town, regarding Regular Agenda Item D, were actually
different from what was in front of the Commission tonight. Deputy Mayor Gennell
stated that there were copies available for the public regarding which issues will be
addressed by the Commission.
Mr. Ronald W. McLemore, City Manager then explained to those in attendance that this
matter is really a "zoning" issue, and that it has resulted from the Commission's desire to
put in place certain strategies to stabilize neighborhoods through Code Enforcement
efforts. Manager McLemore further stated that the overall goal is to protect residential
neighborhoods and the character of the neighborhoods.
There was discussion regarding zoning issues; protection of rights through Code laws;
protecting residential neighborhoods; and addressing commercial vehicle use in
residential zones.
Valerie El-Jamil, 1230 MacTavindash Drive, Oviedo, Florida: asked for the City to
assist the City of Oviedo regarding runway expansion at Sanford Orlando Airport. Ms.
EI-Jamil also spoke about the noise abatement plan; 84 decibels of noise in residential
areas; the effect on the 417 Corridor. Ms. EI-Jamil added that there was a public meeting
tomorrow at the Sanford Orlando Executive Offices scheduled for 9:30 a.m., and could
the City of Winter Springs consider giving support? Commissioner Miller agreed to
attend this meeting.
Janet LaPlaca, 622 Murphy Road, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed matters
concerning the restrictions being placed on commercial vehicle parking in residential
neighborhoods. Ms. LaPlaca suggested grandfathering in trucks that are currently owned
and driven at the present time.
Fred Barone, 339 Mohawk Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about annual garage
sales, and he asked that the Ordinance that prohibits garage sales in a mobile home
community be rescinded.
David Smith, 225 Bennett Street, Winter Springs, Florida: presented a petition to the
Commission from the residents of North Orlando Townsites, which included 63
signatures for allowing the parking of commercial vehicles; 3 signatures were against the
parking of commercial vehicles; and 6 persons were undecided. Mr. Smith mentioned
that he took a vote tonight - 120 individuals were in favor of permitting the parking of
commercial vehicles, and 0 were against this policy.
Bruce Bower, 221 Shore Road, Winter Springs, Florida: supported the present Code
along with the proposed changes.
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Cheryl Hooper, 103 Elderwood Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concern
with portions of the Code, as they pertained to commercial vehicle parking.
Joe Lampone, 202 Cottonwood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about commercial
vehicles being parked along the side of a residence.
Ms. Jimette S. Cook, Code Enforcement Officer responded and explained that currently
trailers under 12 feet can be kept on side of a property.
Robert Benjamin, 28 Coral Way, Winter Springs, Florida: supported the proposed
changes to the Code, and mentioned that he was concerned with residents maintaining
their properties.
Tammy Rode, 617 David Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke against some of the
proposed commercial vehicle Code changes. Asked if the public could be better
informed of any proposed changes to a Code.
Bob Rode, 617 David Street, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about the overnight parking
of commercial vehicles in shopping centers.
Debbie Lawniczak, 300 Wade Street, Winter Springs, Florida: talked about speeding on
Wade Street and suggested erecting a three-way stop sign at Frank Street. Ms.
Lawniczak also asked about overnight parking situations.
Derek Layman, 207 Bitterwood Street, Winter Springs, Florida: as the owner of a small
business, he is against some of the restrictions imposed by the commercial vehicle
parking Ordinance.
Arthur Eastwood, 220 Williams Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke against the
adoption of this Ordinance pertaining to commercial vehicle parking in residential areas.
Mr. Eastwood spoke about some of the costs involved with a small business.
Jim Miller, 236 Buttonwood Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke against the
commercial vehicle parking Code.
Lori and Al Gauvin, 70 Fairfax Avenue, South, Winter Springs, Florida: they are against
the further proposed restrictions of the commercial vehicle parking Ordinance, and
mentioned potential financial hardships. They also mentioned that they would like the
City to check into the problems on their street regarding potholes, and problems due to
the "old sewer system".
Tape llSide B
James Newsome, 224 Shore Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the Issue of
commercial vehicles.
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Francis Milcia, 21 South Cortez Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: stated that each of the
neighborhoods should deal with individual situations, like the parking commercial
vehicles.
Isabelle Laub, Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commended and thanked
Chief Lallathin and his staff from Fire Station 26, for their professionalism and
compassion regarding her husband's health.
Mark Coffman, 404 Hawthorne Circle South,. Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the
commercial vehicle parking situation.
Phillip Corbitt, 209 Banyan Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the hardships
imposed by the proposed changes to the commercial vehicle parking Code.
Heather Holden, 108 Elderwood Street, Winter Springs, Florida: asked the Commission
if the proposed changes included police vehicles; and if a vehicle cover would be
permitted.
Donna Chipps, 678 Silvercreek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: asked which Code
permitted a large concrete garage with a commercial door to be built.
Michael Neal, 21 South Cortez Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about his father's
van being allowed to be parked on their property.
Henry Janney, 228 Bennett Street, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed his concerns with
permitting the parking of commercial vehicles on personal property.
Brian Chambers, 238 Buttonwood Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about his
concerns with the parking of commercial vehicles on his property.
Michael Rice, Winter Springs, Florida: stated that commercial vehicles "add" to a
neighborhood; especially police vehicles.
William Fernandez, 250 Panama Road East Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of his
concerns with portions of the proposed Code, and asked that a work session be held
regarding this issue.
Ralph Daterville, 213 Buttonwood Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed some of
the costs of doing business, in terms of commercial vehicle parking.
Tim Arquette, 128 Bayberry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that we address
the issue of commercial vehicle parking in terms of vehicle weight and size, and not
"lettering" .
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Mike Swigert, 213 Alderwood Street North, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that his
job required a maximum of a one-hour response time (with his commercial vehicle); and
he addressed a few of the restrictions of some of the proposed changes to the Code.
Chris Kern, 306 Inglenook Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: also spoke of a one-hour
response time involved with his job and commercial vehicle, and the restrictions that
some of the proposed changes would impose.
Loraine Ducy, 80 Fairfax Avenue South, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
commercial vehicles issue.
Wes Brewer, 102 Elderwood Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on employees being
allowed to drive home commercial vehicles.
Mayor Partyka mentioned for the record that he had a letter from James and Laura
Brewer.
David Attaway, 218 Wade Street, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned about
neighborhood associations governing themselves.
Woody Timmons, 215 Williams Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke against the
proposed changes to the commercial vehicle parking Ordinance.
Adele Kelsey, 106 Alderwood Street North, Winter Springs, Florida: voiced her concern
about taking the "blue collar privilege away".
Commissioner Michael S. Blake stated, "Mayor, for the record, Mr. Scott would like it
pointed out that that was not him".
There was further discussion on the issue pertaining to commercial vehicles.
Commissioner David W. McLeod spoke about the "745 complaints on record, regarding
vehicles". Commissioner McLeod then said, "I would like to clear the record on that - I
believe on commercial vehicles, on trailers - there is only a total of 56 complaints".
Code Enforcement Officer Cook, asked Commissioner McLeod where he had obtained
that information? Commissioner McLeod said that he had referred to Commissioner
Miller's research. Ms. Cook added, "If! may just clarify, those aren't complaints, those
are cases that we handled".
Commissioner McLeod asked Ms. Cook to check into "What the numbers are coming in
from the citizens, against this". Ms. Cook agreed to get that information for him.
Commissioner McLeod then said, "I think for the record, I think those kind - that kind of
information would probably be valuable to the Commission".
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Further discussion ensued regarding the "745 complaints; and whether to consider
vehicle weight classifications.
COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
THINGS HERE, THAT'S IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING REGARDING THE
VEHCICLE SECTION OF THIS CODE, THAT PERHAPS SHOULD BE
TABLED FOR A LA TER TIME; AND PERHAPS A WORKSHOP AS
SUGGESTED BY SOME MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE - WE SHOULD GET
TO, SO THAT WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT DIRECTION WE REALLY SHOULD
GO, AND I'M BASICALLY IN FAVOR THIS EVENING, THAT THIS VEHICLE
ISSUE BE TABLED".
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD TO TABLE THE SECTION OF THIS
ITEM REGARDING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES (AND LETTERING) IN
ORDER TO HOLD A WORKSHOP ON THIS SUBJECT. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER ROBERT MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE; COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE;
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE; DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE;
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
There was discussion pertaining to the tabling of this issue; setting a Workshop; and the
procedures involved with a Workshop, as it pertained to public input.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. stated that he would like the following three letters
that were received from Ms. Sandra Koelble, Mr. Reed Hunt, and James and Laura
Brewer, to be added to the record, (see Attachments "A", "B", and "c' respectively).
The Commission agreed to hold a Workshop (regarding this issue), on Monday, February
15, 1999 beginning at 6:30 p.m.
The Mayor and Commission suggested that a "courtesy notice" of the next meeting, as it
pertains to this issue, could be mailed to any concerned residents, as long as they notify
the City Clerk. Brief discussion continued regarding notification of public meetings.
Mayor Partyka called a recess at 8:35 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 8: 45 p. m.
The following Agenda Items are documented in the way that they were discussed.
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VI. REGULAR AGENDA
Community Development Department/Code Enforcement Division
D. Requests the City Commission consider amending the City Codes that deal with
commercial vehicle parking; fence and wall maintenance and garage sales in mobile
home park districts.
Discussion ensued on fences; walls; mobile home garage sales; fines; repairs and the
materials to be used for such repairs.
End of Tape I
MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO
PREP ARE AN ORDINANCE ENCOMPASSING THE CHANGES; SPELLING
OUT THAT MAINTENANCE OF FENCES AND WALLS WOULD BE PUTTING
IT BACK WITH THE SAME MATERIALS AND SAME CONDITION, OR
BETTER THAN IT WAS; AND TO ADD VERBIAGE THAT STATES THAT A
PRIVATE GARAGE SALE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN MOBILE HOME
DISTRICTS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE: ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
III. CONSENT AGENDA
City Clerk's Office
A. Approval of Minutes of December 14, 1998 (tabled from the January 25, 1999
meeting).
City Clerk's Office
B. Approval of Minutes of January 11, 1999.
Mayor's Office
C. Approval of Resolution No. 875, expressing appreciation to Kenneth Haines for his
service on the Code Enforcement Board.
Commissioner Martinez mentioned that in the minutes of January 11, 1999, it was
requested that portions of the meeting be transcribed verbatim, and this was not in the
minutes. Discussion. Ms. Margo M. Pierce, City Clerk agreed to review the tape.
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated that in the minutes of December 14, 1998, on Page 6, the
third paragraph from the bottom - it should have stated that Commissioner McLeod
brought up the nominations for Deputy Mayor, and not Deputy Mayor Gennell.
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MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT AGENDA, INCLUSIVE OF THE CLERK CHECKING THE TAPE
OF JANUARY 11, 1999. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. VOTE:
ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
IV. INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
City Manager
A. Providing information to the City Commission in response to an inquiry as to the
excessive amount of time pension funds get transferred to SunTrust.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore gave a brief presentation on this subject.
Discussion followed regarding moving forward; what other cities were doing; and going
out to bid.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE FOR THE CITY TO GO
OUT FOR R.F.P.'S FOR INVESTMENT OF THE CITY'S PENSION FUND, FOR
THE EMPLOYEES. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
DISCUSSION. VOTE: ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
VI. REGULAR AGENDA
Community Development Department/Land Development Division
A. Presents to the Commission the recommendation of the Board of Adjustment as it
relates to the request of William W. Fernandez to have a fence greater than four (4) feet
in height forward of the building line. The fence, at its highest point, is about six (6) feet
in height.
There was discussion on this Agenda Item, including that this matter be tabled pending
the outcome of a review of our Code of Ordinances.
MOTION MADE BY DEPUTY MA YOR GENNELL TO APPROVE THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AND MR.
FERNANDEZ'S REQUEST. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE; COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ: AYE; DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE; COMMISSIONER
BLAKE: NAY; COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY. MOTION CARRIED.
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City Manager
B. Requesting the Commission to review an unaudited FY 98 general fund report and
provide direction it deems appropriate.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore gave a presentation to the Commission. Discussion.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER
TO SPEND $30,000 FOR STREET STRIPING. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: ALL AYE. MOTION
CARRIED.
City Manager
C. Requesting the Commission to receive a report from the City Manager on the
investment of idle funds and to provide any direction it deems to be appropriate.
Manager McLemore addressed this issue with a presentation to the Commission.
Discussion ensued regarding monthly reports from City Manager and the Finance
Director.
IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO HAVE THE CITY
MANAGER MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS.
Community Development Department/Code Enforcement Division
E. Requests the City Commission consider the request of Virginia Cote to allow the
temporary parking and occupation of an over-sized recreational vehicle in her side yard at
411 David Street, (R-I Zoning District), from February 8, 1999 to March 15, 1999 in
accordance with City Code Section 20-431.
Code Enforcement Officer Cook gave a presentation on this Issue to the City
Commission.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
OF VIRGINIA COTE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION. VOTE: ALL AYE. (COMMISSIONER MILLER WAS ABSENT
DURING THE VOTE). MOTION CARRIED.
City Clerk
F. Requesting the City Commission make an appointment to the Code Enforcement
Board.
Deputy Mayor Gennell nominated Mr. Al White for this appointment.
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Commissioner Robert S. Miller nominated Mr. Jim Pitts also for this appointment.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO CLOSE THE
NOMINATIONS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION. VOTE: ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
VERBAL VOTE FOR AL WHITE: VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE;
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE.
VERBAL VOTE FOR JIM PITTS: VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE;
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE; COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE.
Mr. Jim Pitts was appointed to the Code Enforcement Board.
VII. REPORTS
A. City Attorney - Frank Kruppenbacher
Attorney Guthrie requested that the Commission authorize him to do a Quick Claim Deed
regarding property on Fairfax A venue.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE TO AUTHORIZE ATTORNEY
TO FILE A QUICK CLAIM DEED AS DISCUSSED. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: ALL AYE. MOTION
CARRIED.
B. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated he has appointed Fire Chief Timothy J. Lallathin as the
Interim Parks Director and will advertise immediately to fill the position.
C. Commission Seat II - Michael S. Blake
Commissioner Blake inquired about a replacement for the City Clerk, and by what
method?
Mayor Partyka stated he will appoint Andrea Luaces-Lorenzo as the Interim City Clerk
and will go through the process to appoint someone to the position of City Clerk.
Deputy Mayor Gennell moved to accept the resignation of Ms. Margo Pierce, City Clerk.
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Commissioner Blake apologized to Manager McLemore for stating at the last meeting,
that he had not received a call from the City Manager, when in fact he had.
D. Commission Seat III - Ed Martinez, Jr.
Commissioner Martinez mentioned that he had received a letter from Mr. Mel Glickman,
regarding requesting monies to replace a plaque on a donated bench at one of the City's
parks. Discussion. Mayor Partyka stated that he would authorize $125.00 from his
budget, to be used to replace the plaque.
Commissioner Martinez mentioned that a lot of trees were being cut down in area
subdivisions. Manager McLemore explained that that was due to a lot of new
construction going on in the City.
Commissioner Martinez stated he had received five letters from citizens regarding school
zoning problems, and asked that Manager McLemore write to School Board Member
Larry Furlong requesting an answer to this problem, and to enclose the five letters with
his correspondence.
E. Commission Seat IV - Cindy Gennell
Deputy Mayor Gennell asked about a letter that resident Kim Doran had sent (several
months ago) to Mr. Alan Hill, Superintendent with the Public Works Department
regarding the beautification of their neighborhood island. Manager McLemore stated that
he would check into this matter.
Deputy Mayor Gennell inquired about the City purchasing new Holiday decorations, and
asked if Manager McLemore would consider this request.
Deputy Mayor Gennell asked about setting a date for the Board Appreciation Dinner to
honor all Advisory Board members.
Note: Mayor Partyka addressed this issue under his seat, at the end of the meeting,
under VII Reports, Item H (see Page 12 of these minutes).
F. Commission Seat V - David McLeod
Commissioner McLeod mentioned that he had received the Agenda for the 17-92
Planning Meeting, after the meeting had been held. He requested that he be notified at
the time that the Agenda is received.
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G. Commission Seat I - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller asked about the meeting regarding the Orlando Sanford Airport that
he will be attending tomorrow. He asked the Commission if they supported the extension
of the runway at the Orlando Sanford Airport? The Commission was in consensus that
they do not support the opening of the runway.
Commissioner Miller also spoke about Kim Doran's letter regarding the beautification of
their neighborhood island, and asked why it had not been done yet, as the Beautification
of Winter Springs Board had approved it.
Commissioner Miller then asked Manager McLemore to look into a commercial
operation at 677 Silvercreek Drive.
Commissioner Miller gave the Commission a copy of an article from the newspaper
regarding Code Enforcement.
Commissioner Miller also inquired about a memorandum from the Information Services
Department, regarding the audiovisual system's camera. Manager McLemore explained
that we are not getting enough answers from the current vendor, and thus we are looking
into other vendors.
H. Mayor's Office - Paul P. Partyka
Mayor Partyka commended the Commission on how well they handled the Issue of
commercial vehicles, earlier this evening.
Mayor Partyka directed Manager McLemore to take $125.00 from his budget to repair
the plaque on one of the City's park benches.
Mayor Partyka mentioned that resident Roseanne Karr (Planning and Zoning/Local
Planning Agency Board Member) had inquired about the City's 40th Anniversary on June
26, 1999. Mayor Partyka added that he would like to tie the City's 40th Anniversary with
the Board Appreciation Dinner. Discussion. The Commission was in consensus to hold
both events as two separate occasions. Mayor Partyka said he would come back to the
Commission with a date for the Board Appreciation Dinner.
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XIII. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11 :00 p.m.
Note: To complete these minutes, only the first audiotape was reviewed, as no other
audiotapes were available.
Respectfully Submitted:
Margo M Pierce, CMC
City Clerk
Jan Palladino
Secretary to the City Manager
Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
Interim City Clerk
APPROVED:
PAULP. PARTYKA, MAYOR
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I. ROLL CALL:
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell called the Workshop to order at 6:40 p.m. III the
Commission Chambers.
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, absent
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., absent
Commissioner David W. McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Frank. Kruppenbacher, absent
Attorney Robert Guthrie, present
II. DISCUSSION ON THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT CODE
Mr. Ronald W. McLemore, City Manager, provided the Commission with an overview
and asked the Commission if they want a "basic overview" and then let Staff and the
Property Owners and their Representatives continuing working and then come back to
them or if the they want to discuss the Code "line by line and issue by issue" and then
move forward to adoption. The Commission agreed to discuss issues relative to the Code
and the "high points" of the changes that have taken place since the last Workshop held
on January 13, 1999.
Mr. Michael Grindstaff with Shutts and Bowen L.L.P., Attorney for the Schrimsher
properties, stated that "considerable progress" has been made and asked the Commission
to "memorialize" their position and decisions thus far.
There was discussion on the feasibility of the City entering into an "agreement
document"; and if there should be a separation of "code issues" and "Developer's
Agreement issues".
The Commission briefly discussed possible dates for a Workshop regarding the Town
Center District Code, along with dates for the first and second readings of the Ordinance.
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Ms. Juanita Blumberg of 1130 East State Road 434 spoke about all of the Property
Owners being involved in meetings between Schrimsher Properties and City Staff. The
Commission discussed this issue further.
Mr. La Vem Kingsbury of 150 North Tuskawilla Road informed the Commission that he
is "withdrawing" his endorsement of the Town Center due to "coordination problems"
between Staff and the potential developer of his property, which resulted in the sale of his
property not going through.
There was discussion of the schedule of events relative to the adoption of the Ordinance
and a Developer's Agreement. Some Commission Members felt that the Code should be
adopted and then proceed with an agreement. Some Property Owners felt that both issues
should take place at the same time.
Mr. Victor Dover with Dover Kohl and Partners informed the Commission that much
work had been done since the Workshop of January 13, 1999 and reviewed the
significant changes as outlined:
1. The importance future permitting staff or courts would place on illustrations.
Some were revised and added to in order to make them clearer; while others
were removed because they were not necessary.
2. There were statements added about flexibility on some of the illustrations and
diagrams in the Code.
3. The layout of street blocks and alleys, etc., is identified as something that can
be changed.
4. The Code was redlined to indicate corrections, errors or language that was not
clear. New language on procedures, alleys, accessory structures, civic site
structures, parking lots, on-street parking, special exceptions, architecture, and
slgnage.
5. The list of permitted uses was updated and some are only permitted by special
exception.
6. Prohibition of drive-through windows has been removed and can be permitted
under limited circumstances.
7. The "cap" on parking in parking lots has been removed.
8. Changes were made to "A" and "B" streets.
9. New language to make single and double loaded streets more flexible.
1 O. Regulations about the size and scale of buildings have been inserted where
development scale was affected. In most cases, this eliminates the lot size
regulation.
11. Removed specific numbers for trees and landscape and now states that
spacing should be determined in consultation with the City Arborist based on
species.
12. The Frontage Road is now optional, rather than required, under certain
conditions and the conditions are listed.
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There was discussion as to how many of the changes were a result of working with the
Schrimsher organization; which amounted to approximately half of the changes. Several
resulted from reconsidering concepts; Staff consultations; and "changes to accommodate
changes". Mr. Dover informed the Commission that additional training for Staff will be
"essential" as a result of the increased flexibility in the Code.
Mr. Michael Schrimsher of Schrimsher Properties, 600 East Colonial Drive, Suite 100,
Orlando, Florida handed out a memorandum which offered additional comments. Mr.
Schrimsher stated that some of the comments pertained to "typos" and that some were for
clarification. He reviewed some of the main concerns in his memorandum, which
included:
1. There is not a description of width or cross section of an alley.
2. Developed properties backing up to the natural area or park space should not
be a "rare circumstance".
3. There is a difference between wetland park boundaries in the Code as to what
the boundaries were a couple years ago as identified by the Army Corps of
Engineers and suggested that the drawing in the Code should be replaced with
one that is more accurate.
4. Buildings on Main Street and Market Square should be allowed to be one-
story if they are 24 feet high.
There was discussion concerning one-story buildings versus multi-story buildings; and
whether specific details should be addressed while in the process of adopting the Code or
if they could be addressed after adoption as "special exceptions". There was concern
from some Commission Members regarding designing and development details being
discussed "at this point".
Mr. Kingsbury informed the Commission that he does not have any objections to the
Code, but that they need to be aware that another developer is looking into purchasing his
property and how that may affect the Town Center.
Mr. Dover informed the Commission that the Town Center map on page 11 of the Code
has been revised to state, "This drawing will be amended to reflect approved
developments and refinements due to additional information". Therefore, in a situation
such as Mr. Kingsbury's, the map will change if necessary.
Mr. Schrimsher showed a map to the Commission that depicts the boundaries of the
wetland park differently from those that the City possess. There was much discussion of
the boundaries; which surveys have been conducted; which surveys will need to be
preformed; and statements on the maps stating that amendments will follow.
Mr. Charles C. Carrington, AICP, Community Development Director, added that this
issue was addressed at the January 13, 1999 Workshop and said that it would take a
detailed engineering field survey to accurately delineate wetlands; and that this will be
required before the state will fund the purchase of the property.
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Mr. Ed Leerdam representing Springs Landing, LTD./Jessup Shores Joint Venture also
spoke about being involved in any meetings between Staff and with Schrimsher
Properties. There was much concern of this matter. Manager McLemore stated that any
meetings where the Code is changed are public meetings; however, meetings where
individual issues that pertain to property values and acquisition agreements are private
meetings. He further stated that it should be at the Property Owner's discretion as to
whether other Property Owners should be involved in their meetings.
Deputy Mayor Gennell called a 15 minutes recess.
Deputy Mayor Gennell reconvened the meeting.
Discussion continued on possible dates for another Workshop; the first and second
readings of the Ordinance; and when an agreement with Schrimsher Properties might take
place.
Commissioner David W. McLeod added for the record that "This will not be called a
Developer's Agreement".
There was further discussion on scheduling another Workshop, along with the first and
second readings of the Ordinance. Deputy Mayor Gennell asked that everyone present
tentatively mark their calendars for another Workshop on March 1, 1999; the first reading
of the Ordinance to be around March 8, 1999; and the second reading of the Ordinance to
be no later than April 26, 1999. She further stated that a formal decision on dates will be
decided at the February 22, 1999 Regular Meeting of the City Commission.
III. ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Gennell adjourned the meeting.
Minutes respectfully submitted by: Amy Lovingfoss
Clerk