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BOARD OF TRUSTEES
WINTER SPRINGS PENSION
OCTOBER 24, 1995 MEETING
1. Call to Order:
Chairperson Hoffmann called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. in the conference room of city hall.
2. Roll Call:
City Officials. present:
Brian Fricke, present
Joel Berk, absent
Ralph Bowman, present
Si Berman, absent
Chairperson Art Hoffmann, present
John Govoruhk, City Manager
Tom Lang, City Attorney
Sun Bank Representative, Bill Breda, Jr. was also present at the meeting.
3. Approval of August 15. 1995 Minutes:
Hoffinann asked if there were any comments or corrections to the minutes. There were no
comments. The minutes stand approved as read.
4. Ouarterly Review of Trust Finances with Bill Breda. Jf. of Sun Bank:
Breda distributed copies of the Investment Performance Report, then reviewed the report with the
board members.
Attorney Lang stated that the city may have a problem with Time Warner Cable down the road, and
would like to get out of that position for political reasons. Breda said that he would communicate
the city's sensitivity.
Hoffinann asked for recommended changes of our strategy in terms of the distribution of investments.
Breda said that the asset allocations are left up to the client, but the pending change will be
rebalancing the growth value area.
Hoffinann asked for figures on the turnover rate for the quarter or year. Breda stated that the funds
tend to be high in turnover. Trade is between 4 and 5 1/2 cents per share. In the growth fund,
SunTrust tries to emphasize the large cap. The value fund is typically a by-product of what is cheap.
Hoffinann asked how other investment agencies have done compared to the S&P. Breda stated that
the S&P is a pretty good performer relative to most money managers; kind of a hard target to beat.
The value fund has done a little better than average relative to other value funds; the growth fund has
under performed.
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Hoffinann asked ifthere would be any changes or improvements, with the new manager, in the way
the funds are being handled. Breda did not think there would be any major changes.
Bowman asked if the market will continue to grow. Breda said there is still an up side, but not at the
same rate. Stocks are up on price basis to 25% and dividends are up close to 30%. Lower interest
rates have helped. Earnings have been rising, but the momentum in the growth rate of the earnings
have slowed.
Hoffinann asked Breda ifhe sees any change in strategy that investors may be using due to elections
coming up. Breda said that they don't try to invest around politics. The area of most concern is the
retail.
5. Presentation by Attorney Lang regarding Pension Agreement Revisions:
Lang distributed copies of the revised Fifth Amendment to the amended and restated Money Purchase
Pension Plan. Section 601 is the determination of distribution of benefits. The plan as currently
written states that if a participant terminates his employment with the employer upon or at obtaining
his retirement age, all amounts credited to such participants employer contribution account as of the
next succeeding anniversary date shall be distributed by the trustee. The amendment now will read
"evaluation date" instead of "anniversary date".
Hoffinann said the problem was that people would not be able to receive their vested amounts until
the next evaluation date: as much as eleven months. Lang said that by changing the wording to
evaluation date makes it a six month period. There would be two evaluation dates (six and twelve
months).
Hoffinann asked about the amount of funds that were vested from the preceding evaluation date to
the date of retirement. Lang said that the subject was not addressed in the amendment that was
circulated to him, other than 605 gives the fully vested benefits upon attaining retirement date. What
will happen is that it will cut off, and you're going to kick over to 605 as of your retirement date, but
you will not get any additional contributions after the last evaluation date if the word "preceding" is
used. If the intent is to let them go through the next evaluation period, then what happens is they will
get a contribution as of the next evaluation period, covering the period that they were in the plan
after the last evaluation period. It is not in this amendment; it would have to be added.
Hoffmann asked about an option: "Take out what you have up to the preceding evaluation period,
then wait until the next evaluation period for the remaining contributions; or wait until the next
evaluation period and take it all." (normal retirement) He asked about voluntary leaving and having
vested amounts. Lang said that takes you back to 605 automatically. Lang asked, "you are
approving the change to 601 that would allow you to take out that which is vested as of the
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evaluation date preceding retirement; and you have an option as to whether you then wait and take
the residual on the next evaluation date, or whether you wait and take it all on the next evaluation
date?" Hoffman said, that is correct.
Lang said the sixth amendment deals with article four which is allocation of contributions-earning and
forfeitures. This amendment has to be approved in order to get the wording changed from
anniversary to evaluation for consistency.
The underlined portion on the sixth amendment was previously approved, but not placed. Lang
stated that it will be placed as the second sentence in 401(e).
Lang said that he will revise the Fifth Amendment.
Motion: Approval of the sixth amendment subject to the typographical corrections.
Fricke motioned. Bowman seconded.
Vote: Hoffmann, aye; Fricke, aye; Bowman, aye.
Motion carried.
Lang mentioned a question in a letter that Hoffmann had sent to him regarding the second
amendment. The second amendment reads quarterly. Ifa change is needed, then Lang would have
to structure a seventh amendment that eliminates the option of making the contribution quarterly.
Hoffinann stated that for the past couple of years, the contributions have been paid per period (every
two weeks). Fricke asked if the contributions are city funded with employees not making any
contributions. Hoffinann said, "that's right". Lang said that the resolution that was passed does not
include quarterly, but the amendment does. Fricke said that it makes sense to have the flexibility from
the investment perspective. The board agreed to leave the option of "quarterly" in the amendment.
Lang said that Hoffinann also wanted to know if it should be changed to allow them to be paid within
60 days after the time that they terminate or should they have to wait until the end of the year to get
their payment. It is now structured that it would be 60 days after the end of the plan year. For six
months they would not be a participant, but couldn't get their money out. This is termination for any
reason other than death, total and permanent disability or retirement.
Hoffinann asked Lang to conceptually change "Plan year" to read "Evaluation date". Lang mentioned
that this would also affect Section 204 when talking of the termination, and Section 605 when talking
about when they have to get paid.
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6. Old Business:
No Comments
7. New Business:
No Comments
8. Adjournment:
Chairperson Hoffinann adjourned the meeting at 8:05 p.m.
APPROVED:
Art Hoffmann, Chairperson
attest:
Martha Jenkins, Deputy City Clerk