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ITEM J
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Informational
Public Hearings
Regular
November 9. 1998
Regular Meeting
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Authorization
CONSENT
City Clerk's Office
J. Approval of Minutes of Regular Meeting of September 14, 1998
REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 14,1998
The Regular Meeting of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at
6:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell' present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, absent
Attorney Bob Guthrie, present
John Drago, Administrative Assistant, present
COMMISSIONERS:
Robert S. Miller, present
Michael S. Blake, present
Ed Martinez, Jr., present
David McLeod, present
(6:50 p.m.)
Mayor Partyka said the Commission will have the answers from the questions on the
beautification in about 20 minutes.
Mayor Partyka presented Resolution No. 852 to Lurene Lyzen for her service on the Code
Enforcement Board.
Mayor Partyka introduced Mr. Bob Miller, Commissioner of the Winter Springs Little League,
thanked the Mayor and Commission and the City Manager and Mr. Brook Seal for the support
that is given them in making this an extremely fine program that can be offered to boys and girls.
Mr. Miller stated that last Springs, they participated in district wide tournaments and said for the
first time they had a strictly 11 year old all-star Team (District 14), and the initial 11 year old
all-star Team Tournament was won by Winter Springs and introduced the managers and coaches
and team members of the 11 year-old All Star Team and presented the Mayor and Commission
with the Banner for the winning team.
Mr. Miller then introduced the softball team and coaches that went through the mid-season
tournament and the top team tournament and never lost a game; the team presented the Mayor
and Commission with two banners, one for the mid-season tournament and one for the top team
tournament. The Mayor and Commission was also presented the banner for the runner-up
banner for 9-10 year old for this section.
Mayor Partyka said on behalf of himself and the City Commission and residents, he is very
proud of the youth of the City.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ellen Weiss, 1203 Winter Springs Blvd., asked what was taking so long to get the answers to the
questions that were asked at the special meeting with the Tuscawilla residents regarding the
Lighting and Beautification District.
Paul Finnegan, 1562 Warrington St., commended the Police Chief and Fire Chief in regards to
their help with emergency planning and emergency management plan for Winter Springs High
School and Indian Trails Middle School.
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Michael Kocak, 1438 Mt. Laurel Dr., spoke regarding the Tuscawilla Lighting and
Beautification District and urged the Commission to not finance the District with bonds.
I. CONSENT AGENDA
Police Department
A. Requesting the Commission to give approval to donate $305.71 to a joint substance abuse
program in cooperation with the Seminole County Cities.
Utility Department
B. Recommending the acceptance of the reuse feasibility and implementation plan for the East
Water Reclamation Facility.
Public Works Department
C. Advising the City Commission that a recommendation on the minimum roadway width
standards for striping to designate a bike lane will be provided at the September 28 City
Commission meeting.
Community Development Department/Land Development Division
D. Requesting Commission approve the acceptance of the water and sewer system, the
reclaimed water system, the stormwater management system, the roads and the street lighting
for public ownership and maintenance within the Stone Gable Subdivision.
Mayor's Office
E. Adoption of Resolution No. 865 - expressing appreciation to John Herbert for his service on
the B.O.W.S. Board.
E. Approval of Minutes of August 3.1998.
Commissioner Martinez stated he had question on Item D. Commissioner Miller stated he had
question on Item C.
Commissioner Miller said he would like to have an alternative included when this comes back
before the Commission and said he would like to have an option using white paint.
Commissioner Martinez stated he would like to have clarification with regard to the 100-year
flood.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gennell to approve the Consent Agenda minus Item D.
Seconded by Commissioner McLeod. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner Blake: aye;
Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye; Commissioner McLeod: aye;
Commissioner Miller: aye. Motion passes.
Charles Carrington, Community Development Director and Mark Jenkins, City Engineer, was
present for questions.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to table Item D until the next meeting, until Staff
can come back to the Commission with the right answers on both of the questions, which
regards the 100 year flood plain and the streetlighting. Seconded by Commissioner Miller.
Discussion. Commissioner Martinez stated that he has asked the City Manager and Staff
to contact FEMA to have them provide the City with an accurate response from their office
as to the problem that exists here, regarding the flood plain and the inaccuracies in the
map, and stated that he has not gotten an answer and would like an answer from FEMA by
the time this Item comes back to the Commission. Commissioner McLeod stated that he
would like to see the maker of the motion and the maker of the second withdraw the
motion as this property barely touches the 500 year flood plain and said he feels the motion
should go on and carry though and stated that the Commission should approve this
without the lighting and have it contingent upon staff's review of the lighting issue.
Commissioner Blake said he prefers that the motion goes on as it was made because of the
lighting issue, if the developer determines to keep the lights that are currently being
installed then (as far as he is concerned) they need to come back to the Commission with an
answer as to whether they want to maintain this as a private community or complete all the
utility agreements, have them in hand and bring it back to us before we accept any part of
what is normally considered the pubic right-of-way area; secondly as far as the flood way
question, the map shows (at best) it looks like the 500 year flood plain line barely touches
one corner of the property on the southwest side, and stated that as long as we are going to
wait two weeks to get the utility issue taken care of it seems that staff ought to also go and
double check to the best as they are able to, as to just exactly where FEMA is with the map
revision in this area, as apparently there are some errors in the map, and staff has
presented that question to the Commission already, and said he thinks that when it comes
to flood ways, we air on the side of caution, and said as long as the developer is going to
have to wait two weeks anyway we might as well task them to do the entire job and
reiterated that the motion is maintained as made. Attorney Guthrie said because of the
streetlighting issue and because that is a contingency that wasn't expected, we probably
have a little discretion in terms of tabling this and said this is an administrational act
approving this and it's been found technically sufficient in the other area by our staff so we
generally wouldn't have this kind of discretion in terms of tabling this item and not
approving it and said the Commission needs to be cautious whenever we have site plan
approvals, plat approvals and said those are areas that the Commission does not have
much discretion at all. Attorney Guthrie said the streetlighting issue raises an issue where
he thinks it won't be improper to continue if that is the Commission's decision and said but
if the flood map is currently accurate and this is outside the flood hazard area as we define
it in our code, and said the fact that it might change in the future he doesn't feel it would be
a basis for turning this approval down. Commissioner Martinez stated for clarification,
the map is not accurate and said staff has said that the map has been drafted wrong and
said we are not talking about an accurate map, we are talking about something that needs
correction and that is what he is asking for. Commissioner Gennell asked if the
information that the Commission has is correct with the exception of streetlights or not.
Mr. Carrington stated yes. Commissioner Gennell said then there is no problem with the
flood zone map in that area, is that what staff if saying. Mr. Carrington said yes and.
Jenkins stated yes. Mr. Jenkins reviewed the change that FEMA will be making and that is
realigning the flood boundary in the area south of this development. Mr. Jenkins said he
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has asked FEMA to take into consideration the City's 1993 Stormwater Master Plan and
some of the drainage studies because the City's computer modeling shows elevations that
are not as high as FEMA has here and said they (FEMA) has a five foot difference going
across Shore Road, which would indicate a restriction that would cause a five foot
difference. More Discussion. Mr. Jenkins stated that this was started with a letter of map
revision from Winding Hollow Unit 4, because the flood zone is actually shown in the
wrong area, it encroaches into Winding Hollow more than it should on the map, and said in
the process FEMA noticed that they have a major error - they have the creek in the wrong
place and in their effort to try to change that, their plan was to take the existing, published,
base flood elevations from the map (which are already on the map) and align those with
topographical elevation lines from the St. John's map. Mr. Jenkins stated he received a
Faxed draft copy of that, and stated that the copy is just what they plan on doing, it is not
official, it shows their intent. Vote: Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell:
aye; Commissioner McLeod: nay; Commissioner Miller: aye; Commissioner Blake: aye.
Motion passes.
Mayor Partyka read Resolution No. 865, expressing appreciation to John Herbert for his service
on the B.O.W.S. Board.
II. INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
City Manager
A. Informing the Commission that the City of Winter Springs received a Certificate of
Appreciation from the Florida League of Cities for the City's contribution to the 1998 City
Innovations Showcase.
Public Works Department
B. Advising the City Commission of the Tree Planting Project on Edgemon Avenue and
Murphy Road.
Utility Department
C. Updating the City Commission on the status of the notification sent to residents at Moss and
Bahama Roads of the requirement to connect to the sanitary sewer system.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gennell to accept the Informational Agenda.
Seconded by Commissioner Blake. Discussion. Commissioner Miller; Commissioner
McLeod stated they have question on Item C. Commissioner Miller asked about
mandatory hook-up. Commissioner McLeod also spoke about assessing people at the time
that they must connect when their septic system doesn't function anymore. Vote:
Commissioner Gennell: aye; Commissioner McLeod: aye; Commissioner Miller: aye;
Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Martinez: aye. Motion passes.
V. REGULAR AGENDA
Mayor Partyka announced that the Commission will hear Regular Agenda Item D at this time.
Community Development Department/Planning Division
C. Requests the Commission review its membership on the East Central Florida Regional
Planning Council
Sandra Glenn, Director of the E.C.F.R.P.C. and Greg Golgowski, ofE.C.F.R.P.C., were present
and gave their presentation.
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Ms. Glenn suggested and requested that the City continues to be participants as an ad-hoc basis
at the Regional Planning Council because in their opinion it is still the one source were the City
can get the most information of regional items and what is going on in our region today. Ms.
Glenn said their reason for being present is to reiterate to the City that their budget year begins
January 151 of each year and said any dollar amount that the City might approve in the City's 99
budget beginning October 1, that they have already been working with that budget since July of
98 and said even if at their Wednesday meeting, if the Board choose to reduce the membership, it
probably would be January 151 time that such a thing would take place, if even then because it
will be done by State Rule and stated that it is not something that is going to happen today and
asked that the City's representative continue to participate in any activity they have.
Ms. Glenn asked that the Commission consider funding the entire amount because they believe
the City is going to get a year's worth of service from July to the next July. Ms. Glenn said if
that is not feasible for the City, she asks that the City look at funding at least half because the
City has had the use of the Council and will continue to for more than six months in their
OpInIOn.
Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez stated that if the City does not have a vote, we can't add anything, only
our OpInIOn.
Commissioner Miller asked what let to this decision. Mr. Golgowski stated that the Counties are
a major financial contributor to the Council and that carries leverage; if they are not happy and
want to use that. Mr. Golgowski said is also reflects the change in times that we are in. Ms.
Glenn said in years past there was a law that said ifthe D.R.I. doesn't pass the Regional Planning
Council it stops there until that is worked out and stated that the State Law has changed, thus the
role of Regional Planning Councils.
Commissioner Miller stated that looking at the data provided by the E.C.F.R.P.C. there are 27
Cities shown and the way the new origination is showing, Cities with 150 thousand or more will
have a representative, and allows for Orlando and said that excludes 26 other Cities.
Commissioner Miller stated that means it is down to Counties representation, nine appointees,
two for the Tri-County representation; Commissioner Miller said it seems to him that this has
been weighted heavily in favor ofthe people who have a lot of political power and said whereas
the Cities will have to go to their individual representatives and try to get our agenda in front of
them and hope it works out. Commissioner Miller asked if they are getting any information from
other Cities if they are in favor of this or unhappy with this change.
Ms. Glenn said the majority of the Cities they have spoken to and particularly Apopka are
unhappy with the changes. There was a question of double taxation and that was one of the
things that came up in the County looking at paying per resident (per capita) and said a point that
the County brought up was that they are paying the dues for the people living in the incorporated
as well as the unincorporated areas, thus they feel they are representing the people that live in the
incorporated and unincorporated areas.
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Ms. Glenn stated that what they are asking from Winter Springs is time already spent, from
January until whenever - if the vote passes that will cease, then they do not foresee them coming
back to Winter Springs next year for additional monies but we will be back to Winter Springs to
participate in an ad-hoc committee.
Ms. Glenn stated that their budget year started in July and said they have actually spent the
money from July to October assuming that the City would renew their dues, that they were not
going to have this type of conversation and if the City pays their dues in October, what you are
actually doing is going back retroactive to July and paying the portion that you would have paid
in your budget year. Ms. Glenn said ifit happens on Wednesday if the vote is taken and Cities
are no longer voting members, other than through the Tri-County League, the City of Orlando
and those other Counties that have like organizations for Tri-County, but it is not for the current
year that we are looking for payment, it is from July 98 through the term that Commissioner
Martinez would cease to be the City's voting member and stated that it would probably be
around January.
Commissioner Blake asked about the double taxation statement.
Commissioner McLeod said one thing that was mentioned was the City at least pay 50% and said
according to the letter sent to the City, the Council's budget starts in July and said according to
how he has figured it out is that is a quarter. Commissioner McLeod said his recommendation
would be, if this votes Wednesday, the other way that as of the end of September we are out of it,
we pay our dues for July, August and September and said we do not have representation, we're
out of it. Commissioner McLeod stated to Commissioner Martinez, his recommendation to the
rest of the Commission would be to pull out immediately if we don't get representation, after the
decision from Wednesday's meeting.
Ms. Glenn said when Commissioner McLeod stated "back out" and as she explained earlier, it
would be at least three months that even if the vote is taken. Commissioner McLeod said it is
over with, the vote would vote us out and our representation would basically stop.
Ms. Glenn said the Commissioner can bring those items to our meeting Wednesday and if such a
motion is made, then you would have a formal request before our Board.
Commissioner Blake stated that as the Commission is stewards for our City, he would agree with
Commissioner McLeod, in that he might be willing to pay a quarters worth of funding based on
the sheet they have, but if the City does not have a vote in representation of a vote on the Council
then he said he can't see the City continuing to members.
Ms. Glenn said she understands where the Commission is "coming from" but said she hopes the
City would continue to have someone monitor and work with them from the elected body.
Commissioner Gennell stated that the League of Cities is pressing for legislation in this coming
session that will mandate requirement of all the Cities in the Regional Planning Councils.
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It was the consensus to the Commission to have Commissioner Martinez go to the meeting
on Wednesday and voice the Commission's opinion and report back to the Commission at
the next meeting.
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS
John Drago, Administrative Assistant, requested that the Commission hear Public Hearing Item
C first as the City's consultant is present.
Community Development DepartmentJPlanning Division
C. Requests the City Commission adopt the Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) of the
City's Comprehensive Plan and direct staff to transmit the adopted EAR to the Florida
Department of Community Affairs
Fred Goodrow, the City's consultant, was present to discuss with the Commission his
recommendations.
Discussion.
Mayor Partyka closed the Regular Meeting and opened the Public Hearing. There was no one
present to speak. Mayor Partyka closed the Public Hearing and reconvened the Regular Meeting.
Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to adopt the Evaluation and Appraisal Report
and to transmit the adopted EAR to the Florida Department of Community Affairs.
Seconded by Commissioner McLeod. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner Gennell: aye;
Commissioner McLeod: aye; Commissioner Miller: aye; Commissioner Blake: aye;
Commissioner Martinez: aye. Motion passes.
Mayor Partyka called a recess at 8:38 p.m. Mayor Partyka reconvened the Regular Meeting at
8:54 p.m.
Finance Department
A. Requesting the City Commission hold a Public Hearing relative to the approval of Resolution
No. 866, setting the Tentative Millage Rate at 3.600 mils or an alternative rate the Commission
deems appropriate and adoption of same, and relative to the adoption of the first reading of
Ordinance No. 705 establishing the Tentative Budget for Fiscal Year 1998-1999.
Harry Martin, Finance Director was present for questions.
Mayor Partyka closed the Regular Meeting and opened the Public Hearing. No one wished to
speak on this Ordinance. Mayor Partyka closed the Public Hearing and reconvened the Regular
Meeting.
Commissioner Blake had comments on the assessed value. Discussion.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gennell to approve Resolution No. 866 setting the
tentative millage rate at 3.600 mils. Seconded by Commissioner McLeod. Discussion.
Vote: Commissioner McLeod: aye; Commissioner Miller: aye; Commissioner Blake: aye;
Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye. Motion passes.
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Finance Department
A.1. Requesting the City Commission hold a Public Hearing relative to the approval of
Ordinance No. 705. establishing the Tentative Budget for Fiscal Year 1998-1999:
Commissioner Gennell asked about the Board Appreciation Dinner. Mayor Partyka stated he has
discussed this with the City Manager and that there is enough money in the budget to handle that.
Mayor Partyka closed the Regular Meeting and opened the Public Hearing. No one wished to
speak on this Ordinance. Mayor Partyka closed the Public Hearing and reconvened the Regular
Meeting.
Motion was made by Commissioner Martinez to read Ordinance 705 by title on First
Reading. Seconded by Commissioner Miller. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner Miller:
aye; Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye;
Commissioner McLeod: aye. Motion passes.
Attorney Guthrie read Ord. 705 by title only on First Reading.
Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to move Ord. No. 705 onto Second Reading on
September 28,1998 at 7:00 p.m. Seconded by Commissioner Gennell. Discussion. Vote:
Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye;
Commissioner McLeod: aye Commissioner Miller: aye. Motion passes.
Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to move Resolution No. 866 on to the
Commission meeting of September 28,1998 to set the final millage at 7:00 p.m. Seconded
by Commissioner GenneII. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner
Gennell: aye; Commissioner McLeod: aye; Commissioner Miller: aye; Commissioner
Blake: aye. Motion passes.
Finance Department
B. Requesting the City Commission hold a Public Hearing on the Non-Ad Valorem Tax
Assessment for Street lighting within the Country Club Village Subdivision and provide
directions as deemed appropriate:
Mr. Martin gave his presentation.
Mayor Partyka closed the Regular Meeting and opened the Public Hearing. No one present
wished to speak on this item. Mayor Partyka closed the Public Hearing and reconvened the
Regular Meeting.
Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to approve Resolution No. 854. Seconded by
Commissioner Martinez. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner McLeod: aye; Commissioner
GennelI: aye; Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner
Miller: aye. Motion passes.
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REGULAR AGENDA
Utility Department
A. Requesting the appearance of the Seminole County Director of Environmental Services to
respond to the City's offer to provide bulk potable water services:
Kip Lockcuff, Public WorkslUtility Director, stated that he had spoken with Mr. Wagner on
Wednesday and Mr. Wagner said he would be here for the meeting but is not present.
Discussion.
It was the consensus of the Commission to table this item until the next Commission
meeting.
Community Development Department/Planning Division
B. Requests the Commission to review the role of the Commerce and Industry Board:
Tom Grimms, Comprehensive Development, gave his presentation.
Mel Glickman, Chairman of the C.LD.B., and Jennifer Booten, Board Member, were present.
Mr. Glickman gave his presentation.
Discussion on this item.
Commissioner Martinez mentioned that during budget discussions there was some mention that
possibly the C.LD.B. could be turned into the Winter Springs Chamber of Commerce and stated
that he feels this is an area that should be explored to see if this could become a reality.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller read from the Code regarding the C.LD.B. and discussed the Board's role
for the City.
Commissioner McLeod stated that the reason this is on the agenda is during budget workshops,
the Commission analyzed each Board and their activity and stated that the C.LD.B. did not have
any activity and said the Commission was trying to justify the cost of the Board. Commissioner
McLeod it was mentioned turning the Board into a Chamber of Commerce and stated that it was
mentioned that it was not something that the City would sponsor. Discussion.
Commissioner McLeod said it is his recollection that the Commission discussed abandoning the
Board because presently it's productivity and usefulness as the C.I.D.B. didn't fit.
Commissioner Gennell said when the C.LD.B. was established it was an entirely different era
then as far as the City didn't have professional, skilled consultants or City Manager working with
us that brought in professionals from different fields. Particularly the Town Center, the
marketing and promotion and developers and said the City's emphasis has now been in that area.
Discussion. Commissioner Gennell mentioned that currently the C.LD.B. is not suiting our
needs and stated that the times have changed since the Board was established.
Mayor Partyka commented that there are five business people on the Board that are good and
whether there is a Commerce & Industry Board the way it is now is to be determined, but maybe
the issue is what does it need to become and how do we take these five good people and channel
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them in some other direction to benefit the City and benefit them and be productive. One of the
things my be "ambassadors" of the City and said as we get into annexation and bringing people
in, someone will have to present the "story" and said that may be a start. Discussion.
Commissioner McLeod said he would like to thank Mr. Glickman and the Board for what they
have done in the past and for their hard work.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod to recommend at the present time that the
Commission dissolve the Commerce & Industry Development Board as was talked about in
the budget workshops. Seconded by Commissioner Blake. Discussion. Commissioner
Blake stated that he thinks the City, in the past few years the Board hasn't had clear
direction on what to do and said they haven't had any tools on what to do and said it is a
confusing problem. Commissioner Blake said there is not question that the things that the
C.I.D.B. have been charged to do by the Code under which they were formed is an area in
which the City needed at one point in time when the Orlando Metropolitan Development
was no where near here and said now that development is "knocking" at our door and
surrounding the City, it becomes a different issue, it becomes a problem where we have to
manage the growth that is "knocking" at our door; and said we do need to attract good
clean commercial type businesses and unfortunately an advisory board is not in the best
position to do so, it's really a Staff issue. Commissioner Blake stated that the C.1.D.B.
ought to be commended for their hard work over the last few years and said he really
doesn't know what to ask the Board to do at this point in time and that is why he seconded
the motion and said he hopes that the members of the Board don't take it the wrong way
and said he hopes that the Board members hold themselves out for another appointment on
one of the other Boards and continue to serve the City if this Board is dissolved.
Commissioner Miller said he doesn't see any purpose in dissolving the Board at this point
and said he would like to talk to the City Manager about his plans before any action is
taken. Commissioner Blake stated that this is just an indication of what we intend to do, it
will take and Ordinance before this happens and during that time we can look at some of
the issues that Commissioner Miller has brought up. Mayor Partyka stated there are
concerns in terms of the current C.I.D.B.'s goals and objectives and said he thinks it has
been transitioned to something else and said the other piece on this is what it the transition
mechanism and said even Manager McLemore's recommendation to the Commission is to
authorize the Manager to assemble a small team of economic development professionals to
explore what the C.I.D.B. to see what programs, if any, it could carry out to enhance
business development and retention in the City. Mayor Partyka said there should be at
least one more meeting to give the C.I.D.B. a change to talk and come up with creative way
in solving this issue. Vote: Commissioner Miller: nay; Commissioner McLeod: aye;
Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye; Commissioner Martinez: nay.
Motion passes.
Utility Department
C. Recommending authorization to lift the emergency water restrictions:
Kip Lockcuff, Public WorkslUtility Director, was present for any questions.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Blake to lift the emergency water restrictions imposed
June 24, 1998 and recommend water use guidelines be incorporated into our future
Resolutions. Seconded by Commissioner Martinez. Discussion. Commissioner Gennell
asked about the water use guideline to be incorporated. Mr. Lockcuff said he will come
back with a proposal for 10:00 - 4:00 and every other day and said he would like to have
some kind of steps that the Manager could impose emergency water restrictions at a future
date - to have a mechanism so that we could have emergency water restrictions if a
drought condition did reoccur. Mr. Lockcuff stated that he did have complaints from
people who are on wells and said they thought the City was overstepping their authority by
regulating wells and asked the Commission's thought on that. Commissioner Gennell
asked Mr. Lockcuff what is his feeling on that. Mr. Lockcuff said he personally thinks the
City should regulate wells and also reclaimed water. Mr. Drago stated that he feels that
Mr. Lockcuff could use the Water Management District as a guideline and include any
other provisions that he feels is appropriate for this area including wells, canals and
reclaimed and said the City has the right to control that and the City should.
Commissioner McLeod said he agrees with Commissioner Miller regarding controlling the
people who are on wells. Vote: Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye;
Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Miller: nay; Commissioner McLeod: aye.
Motion passes.
REPORTS
A. City Attorney - Frank Krupoenbacher:
Attorney Guthrie recommend the Commission hold an executive session for several pending law
suits, those having to do with Central Winds Park and Battleridge.
It was determined that the Commission will hold an executive session on September 21, 1998 at
6:30 p.m.
Attorney Guthrie read the law suits and stated that those in attendance will be Mayor Partyka,
Deputy Mayor Gennell, Commissioners Miller, Blake, Martinez and McLeod; Attorney Guthrie,
Special Council Bernard J. Martin and City Manager McLemore. Attorney Guthrie stated that
there will be a court reporter present and the transcripts will be available upon conclusion of the
litigations.
B. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore:
Mr. Drago stated that he has provided copies of the answers from the public meeting regarding
the Tuscawilla Beautification District and stated that he has spare copies for the public. Mr.
Drago stated that the City Manager asks the Commission to decide how they would like this
distributed in the future and said the Manager has suggested either mail or make available at City
Hall. Commissioner Blake said he has spoken to the City Manager regarding this and said
apparently there has been some discussion at to whether this will be mailed and if mailed then to
who. Commissioner Blake said given the size of the document, he feels the report should be
available at City Hall for no charge. Commissioner McLeod stated that after the public meeting
the Mayor stated that he would mail to the public that was present a copy of the answers that
were put together and said the 70 people deserve copies of the document mailed to them as was
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promised and the rest of the general public is welcome to come in and get copies. Discussion on
the question and answer document and how to get it out to the public.
It was the consensus of the Commission to send the draft report by mail to the 70 people who
attended the public meeting and if the public had any questions they can come to the Sepcial
Meeting and voice their concerns and questions.
C. Commission Seat III - Ed Martinez. Jr.
Commissioner Martinez asked about the situation between the City and Oviedo regarding the
J.P.A.
Attorney Guthrie stated that both the County and Oviedo have declined to go into the formal
CALNO mediation process and stated that both the County and Oviedo said they are fulfilling
their requirement because they have been talking to us about this. Attorney Guthrie stated that
he attended the County Commission meeting to urge them to derail this process and they
declined to do that and at that point in time County Commissioner Morris urged us to submit
things to the County and that might be the basis for a J.P.A. with us, but there was no formal
action on the J.P.A. at that meeting but also no indication that there would be a tri-party one or
that the other one would be delayed.
Mayor Partyka mentioned that he has left messages with Commissioner Dalari to start the
process and said he has not gotten a call back.
Commissioner Blake asked what is our next course of action to move both Seminole County and
Oviedo into the mediation proceedings.
Attorney Guthrie said we would have to show that we are damaged in some way and said we
have to see if one or the other has scheduled that for a public hearing and then we could indicate
and go to Court and say we have been deprived of rights that we have under the inter-local
agreement and said the inter-local agreement provides for Attorneys fees and we would seek
attorneys fees for violating it.
Commissioner Martinez gave Mr. Drago a letter from Ms. Helen Baker and said she has a
sensitive issue and said it falls in the Code Enforcement area and asked that Ms. Baker be
provided with an answer.
Commissioner Martinez asked what is going on with Colt Dr. and said this is the third meeting
since the Commission has asked about the ownership of that road and what the City intends to
do.
Attorney Guthrie said the Attorney that we are going to have the executive session with is also
the attorney that does title work for us and said he and the City Manager met with the Attorney
on Thursday and stated that the Attorney indicated to them that he is doing all the title work and
will be delivered to the City in short order.
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Commissioner Martinez said it had been brought to his attention by a citizen about not getting
any response to her regarding the area on Northern Way and Greenbriar, where the power lines
go across, the corner is "ugly" and said it needs to be defined as to whether Florida Power is
responsible for maintaining that area or if the City is responsible and said if the City is
responsible someone needs to clean up that area.
Jimette Cook, Code Enforcement Officer, stated that the Code Enforcement Board meets
tomorrow night and the owners of that property will appear before the Board on that matter.
D. Commission Seat IV - Cindy Gennell:
Commissioner Gennell said regarding the 1 DO-year flood zone that the Commission was talking
about earlier, in the City's Compo Plan it calls for no building within the 100 year flood zone and
said that Mr. Carrington stated that we allow it and said that is something that the City needs to
look at.
Commissioner Gennell said as far as the problem regarding the lights in Stone Gable - if we
don't have a mechanism for developers to bring in their lighting plans, we should get that
mechanism in place.
Commissioner Gennell also spoke about enforcing the time limit when people speak during
Public Input and said unless a Commissioner or Commissioners say they want to hear more.
Commissioner Gennell stated that she received a complaint about the Fire Department regarding
their annual Boot Drive, which was approved by the Commission at the last meeting, and said
the complaint was regarding signs in the median and signs taped to stop signs and speed limit
SIgns.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod to continue the meeting for 10 minutes.
Seconded by Commissioner Gennell. Discussion. Vote: Commissioner Miller: nay;
Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Gennell: aye;
Commissioner McLeod: aye. Motion passes.
E. Commission Seat V - David McLeod:
Commissioner McLeod spoke regarding the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod that Commissioner Martinez, the City's
representative, attend the meeting on Wednesday and makes it very clear that if we as a
City do not have a vote, as far as a City on that Council, then we will withdraw from it as of
the end of September and we pay only a quarter of the dues for the time that we have spent
as a voting member for July, August and September. Seconded by Blake. Discussion.
Vote: Commissioner Martinez: aye; Commissioner Blake: aye; Commissioner Miller: aye;
Commissioner Gennell: aye; Commissioner McLeod: aye. Motion passes.
F. Commission Seat I - Robert S. Miller:
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Commissioner Miller stated that he will have his appointment to the B.O.W.S. Board at the next
Commission meeting.
G. Commission Seat II - Michael S. Blake:
Commissioner Blake mentioned that he has a problem with the current park situation and stated
that he has had people complain about the conditions at the park. Commissioner Blake stated
that this is not the issue regarding the play equipment, it is the overall condition of the facilities,
from the turf, the fencing, the benches, light bulbs, weeds, backstops, holes in the baseball
diamonds and fields. Commissioner Blake stated that he also had a complaint from Mr. Miller of
the Little League regarding the "big" field and stated that the field was tom apart and not ready
for play and stated that Little League had to cancel games and said the Little League was
promised that the field would be done and it wasn't done and said there was one problem and
excuse after another and said it is a matter of not putting the right resources in the right place at
the right time.
Commissioner Blake said they had to cancel some games and said in fact the games that the
Little League is having tomorrow at Winter Springs High School, that we are paying for as a
city, we are sending our crews over there, they did it on Saturday and again tomorrow, to work
on Winter Springs High School's field to prepare it so that Little League can plan there.
Commissioner Blake said that is revenue that we are loosing, plus we are having to pay for the
manpower and equipment to go over there and do that field so they can go over there to play.
Commissioner Blake said there is a problem here, and there were games all day on Saturday and
said that light on two scoreboards that he looked at had lights out and it was hard to tell what the
score was.
Commissioner Blake said at Trotwood Park at the baseball diamonds - the backstops where the
fences are are a safety hazard and said he had seen a child about 4 or 5 months ago who was
standing behind the backstop and a pitch went through a hole under the backstop and hit the
child in the ankle and said the child got hurt. Commissioner Blake said he has mentioned these
problems before and said they have not been taken care of and said he will talk to the City
Manager about this again but asked Mr. Drago to relay the messages to the City Manager.
H. Mayor's Office - Paul P. Partyka:
Mayor Partyka also mentioned that he also has issues regarding the Parks and said that two major
groups, the Little League (Babe Ruth 12 and above) a hundred boy group, for whatever reason,
missed out in getting their mailings and said they cannot get fields. Mayor Partyka said Winter
Springs Soccer, the girls program, said out of 60 league games to be played here in Winter
Springs can only get three where outside Cities are getting 20 to 30 % of the time and said
something is not quite right in scheduling.
Mayor Partyka said he is glad to see that we had the 2.3 million-dollar grant for the
redevelopment of S.R. 434 and said hopefully we will start seeing some things done.
Mr. Drago said if the Commission is not going to have the workshop this evening, does the
Commission want it on the 21 st or to be rescheduled for the 28th. Discussion.
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It was the consensus of the Commission to hold the workshop on October 5, 1998 at 6:30 p.m.
The meeting adjourned at 11: 15 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Margo M. Hopkins-Pierce, CMC
City Clerk
APPROVED:
PAUL P. PARTYKA, MAYOR