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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MINUTES
MAY 5, 1994
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 P.M. by Chairman Greene
BOARD MEMBERS:
James Greene, Chairman, Present
Wendy Austin, Absent
Al Becker, Present
Frank Adams, Present
Greg Smith, Present
CITY OFFICIALS:
Carl D. Gosline,
Community Dev. Coord.
Approval of Minutes of March 3, 1994
Greene asked for any questions, corrections, or additions.
None submitted, the minutes were approved as presented.
Request from Intomm, Inc. for variance to ~9.241 Cd) to alleviate
fencinq requirement for Stormwater Ponds with slopes areater than
4:1
Gosline presented the case to the Board of Adjustment stating that
the Staff recommends granting the variance for the ponds with the
condition that the 4 to 1 slope be measured two or three below the
surface of normal high water.
Greene asked Gosline if the developer had received a variance to
use a wetbottom pond. Gosline answered, "I believe so".
Gosline stated that technically there isn't anything wrong with
wetbottom ponds; however, it's something that we will have to look
at in terms of the code because the code does not address wetbottom
ponds.
Greene stated that the preV10US City Engine~r specifically
prohibi ted wetbot tom ponds because there was so many wetbot tom
ponds that were not being constructed properly or maintained. The
engineer indicated by virtue of the fact that they are prohibited,
and by prohibiting them in the code, any time a wetbottom was to be
built, the case would have to brought before this Board.
Discussion.
Becker made a motion for approval. Seconded by Smith.
Discussion.
Adams made a motion to amend the motion to allow the 4:1 slope to
go further in and make the water depth at least four (4) feet.
That would make it a four (4) foot drop in the water table before
we'll have a problem with children at risk. Seconded by Smith.
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Greene asked for any further discussion on the amended motion.
No further discussion. Vote: All Aye. Motion carried.
Request from Demetree Builders, Inc. for a variance to ~6-219 (a,c)
to allow a swimminq pool to be built nearer than ten (10) feet, and
a screen enclosure to be built nearer than seven (7) feet to the
rear property line. Relief is also requested from the twenty-eiqht
(28) foot setback line shown on the plat.
Gosline stated that there should have been two separate variance
requests here; however, the Staff has recommended approval of the
variance for the front yard, but denial of the variance for the
back yard. The reason for denying the back yard variance is that,
there is al ternati ve designs that could be done to reshape the
pool, or move the patio, etc. to fit within the required rear yard
setbacks.
Brief discussion as to the twenty-eight (28) foot setback line.
Bland, who is the General Manager with Demetree, Inc. presented his
first variance request to the Board, and asked that they be allowed
the front setback to be the same as all the other houses they have
built in Country Club Village, Phase III. He stated that, "he
bel ieves that the setback is there because the lot is a "pie"
shaped lot, and that's the point at which it becomes forty-five
(45) feet wide which is the width of the other lots." He went on
to say that it didn't restrict them because they have still met the
side yard requirements.
Bland stated his second variance request for a swimming pool at the
rear of the lot. The requirement is that the water's edge be ten
(10) feet from the property line which is absolutely valid when
properties back up to each other. In most subdivisions there is no
common area between lots, and where two lots back up to each other
it should be ten (10) feet. We would never request it otherwise.
Because there is a twenty (20) foot buffer here, we have requested
a four (4) foot relaxation of that so that we can get a twelve (12)
foot pool in. Bland stated that they have had several variances on
pools where it has backed up to common area.
Greene corrected Mr. Bland, and stated that the area he was
speaking of was not common area, but a green area, and there is a
difference between the two.
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Greene asked Bland if he would consider putting this in the form of
two variance requests. Bland agreed.
Greene asked for discussion on the front yard setback line, and
asked for public comments.
Randy Kelly stated that he lives at 1178 Winged Foot Circle which
is lot IDS. He stated his concerns with regard to the driveways,
and the lack of sufficient space.
Bland stated that there are no deed restrictions for Country Club
Village on this particular point. The excepted norm and what we
follow with the City of Winter Springs is that there would be a
minimum twenty (20) foot setback from the edge of the street to the
garage. That has been the practice that has been followed for a
hundred houses that we have built.
Greene stated that the only reason why the Board is considering any
question on the twenty-eight (28) foot setback 1 ine is simpl y
because it is recorded on the deed, and it is a legal fact as
opposed to a deed restriction which is up to you as a developer to
enforce.
Bland stated that there are no deed restrictions as far as
setbacks; side yards, rear yards, within the regulations. There
are no setbacks, and this has been the norm that has been adhered
to by the City of Winter Springs.
Gosline said that he wanted to be sure that everyone understands
that whatever you all do, they (the builder) will also have to
satisfy the Homeowner Association, or the Architectural Review
Committee for Country Club Village.
Greene asked Bland if Country club Village had an Architectural
Review Board that approves these.
Bland answered, "that is correct, and they have approved the plan
that has been submitted to the City of Winter Springs."
Greene asked if the fact that they have approved this was indicated
on any of the information that was given to us.
Bland stated that it was approved when we submitted for a building
permit, and the Architectural Committee approved the site plan that
was submitted. At the time it was submitted, the City Engineer's
noted that there was a note on the plat stating that we would have
to get a variance.
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Discussion with regard to setbacks.
Gosline, (in answer to the chairman's question concerning ARB
approval appearing on any of the information submitted), answered,
no, because he didn't find out about it until about four o'clock
this afternoon.
Greene stated that the chair will except a motion for discussion on
the allowance of the front setback of eleven (11) feet from the
front property line.
Smith moved to allow the front setback line of eleven (11) feet
from the front property line. Seconded by Adams.
Greene asked for any further discussion. Discussion with regard to
deed restrictions, and setbacks.
Vote: Smith - Aye; Becker - Nay; Greene - Aye; Adams - Aye.
Motion carried.
Request of Variance for swimminq pool and screen enclosure:
Greene, (after a brief opening statement) asked for any input from
the public for or against stated variance.
Max McCoy - 1180 Winged Foot Circle, Lot 104. McCoy addressed his
concerns with regard to elevation, and his house in relation to the
site in question.
Randy Kelly - 1178 Winged Foot Circle, Lot 105. Kelly also stated
his concerns with regard to elevation and noise.
Dale Malone - 1176 Winged Foot Circle, Lot 115.
concerns with elevation; flooding when it
possibility of fencing problems.
Malone stated his
rains, and the
Bland responded to the residents concerns.
John Langellotti 1102 Winged Foot Circle West. Langellotti
stated .that what is going on is typical of all the developers in
Winter Springs who want to squeeze every piece of property they can
get. He went on to say that he is definitely against the variance
because the developer is infringing on common ground, and on the
peoples property.
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Greene asked for a motion. Smi th made a motion to grant the
variance. NO SECOND. Motion died for lack of a second.
Greene once again asked for a motion.
Adams made a motion to deny the variance as requested.
Seconded by Becker.
Discussion.
Vote: All Aye. Motion carried.
Greene stated that the variance for the rear yard setbacks on the
pool and screen enclosure are denied.
Meeting adjourned at 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully SUbmitt~d..
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Shirley . Frankhouser,
Administrative Secretary