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_April 13, 1998
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REQUEST: The Community Development Department - Planning Division requests the City
Commission hold a public hearing to consider whether to transmit the large scale
comprehensive plan amendment (LG-CP A-I-98) to Florida Department of
Community Affairs, that would add a policy statement in the Intergovernmental
Coordination Element of the City's Comprehensive Plan on annexation into the
east rural area of Seminole County.
PURPOSE:
The plan amendment is intended to add to the current text of the Intergovernmental
Coordination Element, in Volume 2 of 2 of the Comprehensive Plan, a policy statement on
annexation into the east rural area of Seminole County. Consideration of this plan
amendment is prompted by the request of Seminole County. The additional language to
the text requires the submission of a large scale comprehensive plan amendment to the
Florida Department of Community Affairs.
APPLICABLE LAW AND PUBLIC POLICY:
The provisions of 163.3184(3)(a) F.S. which state: "Each local governing body shall
transmit the complete proposed comprehensive plan or plan amendment to the state land
planning agency" the appropriate regional planning council and water management district,
the department, and the Department of Transportation immediately following a public
hearing pursuant to subsection (15) as specified in the state land planning agency's
procedural rules, The local governing body shall also transmit a copy of the complete
proposed comprehensive plan or plan amendment to any other unit of local government or
government agency in the state that has filed a written request with the governing body for
the plan or plan amendment."
APRIL 13, 1998
AGENDAlTEM C
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The provisions of 163.3184(15)(b) F.S. which state: "The local governing body shall hold
at least one advt::rtised publiC hearing on the proposed comprehensive plan or plan
amendment as follows:
1. The first public hearing shall be held at the transmittal stage pursuant to
slJbsection (3). It shall be held on a weekday at least 7 days after the day
that the advertisement is published.
2. The second public hearing shall be held at the adoption stage pursuant to
subsection (7). It shall be held on a weekday at least 5 days after the day
that the second advertisement is published."
The provisions of9J-11.006(1) F.A.C. which state "Each proposed amendment including
applicable supporting documents which include data and analyses shall be submitted
directly to the Fl.orida Department of Community Affairs, Division of Resource Planning
and Management, Plan Processing Team, the appropriate regional planning council, water
management district(s), Department of Transportation and Department of Environmental
Protection. ProlPosed plan amendments, except those discussed under the exemption
provisions ofRulle 9J-11.006(1)(a)7. F.A.c., shall be consolidated into a single submission
for each of the two plan amendments adoption times during the calendar year. The
comprehensive plan submitted pursuant to Section 163.3167 F.S., shall be counted as one
of the two plan amendment adoption times during the calendar year; however, only the
submittal requirements of Rule 9J-l1.004 F.A.C. must be followed."
CONSIDERA TIONS:
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At the Ja.nuary 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, Tony Mathews, Seminole County Planning
Department, conveyed the request of Randy Morris, County Commissioner, that
the City Commission consider incorporating into the City's Comprehensive Plan a
statement that the City will not annex into the east rural area of Seminole County
in the future.
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At the Jmnuary 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, the city Manager stated that the City would be
quite willing to consider adopting a policy statement on annexation into the east
rural are:a of Seminole County, if the City of Oviedo would adopt the same policy
in its comprehensive plan.
APRIL 13, 1998
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The proposed policy statement (policy 2 under Objective E in the
Intergovl~mmental Coordination Element) would read as follows:
The City of Winter Springs shall not, through an involuntary annexation, extend its
eastern boundary beyond the Urban Service Line separating urban land uses from
that area known as the East Rural Area as further defined in Figure 2.8 of the
Seminole: County Comprehensive Plan.. The City shall reserve the right to annex
propertie:s upon voluntary request of the property owner(s) beyond the Urban
Service Line established by the county. However, in such cases the City shall
establish land use designations that are compatible with the land use designations
of the county's comprehensive plan for that area to be annexed.. The effective
date of this policy shall coincide with the effective date of the adoption of the same
policy by the City of Oviedo. The City of Winter Springs agrees to continue to
work with Seminole county and the City of Oviedo to establish a Joint Planning
Agreement to define the future boundaries of the two cities.
FUNDING:
No funds required to transmit the large scale comprehensive plan amendment to the
Florida Department of Community Affairs.
FINDINGS:
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Randy M:orris, County Commissioner, has requested the City Commission
incorporate into the City's Comprehensive Plan a statement that the City will not
annex into the east rural area of Seminole County in the future.
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At the January 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, the City Manager stated that the City would be
quite willing to consider adopting a policy statement on annexation into the east
rural area of Seminole County, if the City of Oviedo would adopt the same policy
in its comprehensive plan.
RECOMMENDA TION:
The Local Planning Agency, at its March 18, 1998 meeting, voted to recommend that the
City Commission transmit the large scale comprehensive plan amendment
(LG-CP A-1-98) to the Florida Department of Community Affairs for its review and
comment.
APRIL 13, 1998
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Staff recommends that the Commission transmit to the Florida Department of Community
Affairs the large scale comprehensive plan amendment (LG-CP A-1-98), which would add
to the current text of the Intergovernmental Coordination Element in Volume 2 of 2 of the
Comprehensive :Plan, a policy statement in the Intergovernmental Coordination Element
of the City's Comprehensive Plan on annexation into the east rural area of Seminole
County.
1. The findings indicated above;
2. The recommendation of the Local Planing Agency is that the City Commission
hold a first (transmittal) public hearing and transmit to the Department of
Community Affairs the proposed large scale comprehensive plan amendment (LG-
CPA-1-98).
IMPLEMENTATION:
The City Commission would hold a second public hearing within sixty (60) days after
receiving the ORC Report to adopt the amendment, or adopt the amendment with changes
per 163.3184(7) F.S.
The effective date of this policy shall coincide with the effective date of the adoption of
the same policy by the City of Oviedo.
Within forty-five: (45) days from adoption, the Department of Community Affairs
publishes a "Notice ofIntent" to find the plan amendment in compliance or not in
compliance per 163.3184(8)(b) F.S. An "affected person" may file a petition, which
petition shall receive a hearing by the Division of Administrative Hearings of the Florida
Department of Management Services.
ATTACHMENTS:
1. Staff Report to the Local Planning Agency
2. Figure 2.8 of the Seminole County Comprehensive Plan
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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434
WlNTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA 32708-2799
Telephone (407) :327-1800
Community Development
LOCAL PL~fING AGENCY REGULAR AGENDA ITEM:
II. 1. AMENDl\1JE:NT TO THE INTERGOVERN1\1ENTAL COORDINATION
ELE:MENT VOLUME 2 OF 2 (LG-CPA-1-98) .
STAFF REPORT::
APPLICABLE LAW AND PUBLIC POLICY:
The provisions of 163.3174(4) Florida Statutes which states ''Be the agency (Local Planning
Agency) responsible for the preparation of the comprehensive plan or plan amendment and
shall make recommendations to the governing body regarding the adoption or amendment of
such plan. During the preparation of the plan or plan amendment and prior to any
recommendation to the governing body, the Local Planning Agency shall hold at least one
public hearing, with public notice, on proposed plan or plan amendment."
The provisions of Sec. 2-57 of the City Code which state in part u. . .the planning and
zoning board shall serve as the local planning agency pursuant to the county comprehensive
planning act and the local government comprehensive planning act of the state. . ." .
1 BACKGROUND:
APPLICANT:
City ofWmter Sprilngs
1126 East S.R 434
Wmter Springs, FL 32708
(407) 327-1800
Mvch 18,1998
LG-CPA-l.98
REQUEST:
For the Local Planning Agency to review and recommend the requested changes to the
City's Comprehensive Plan Intergovernmental Coordination Element Goals, Objectives and
Policies (Volume 2 of2).
PURPOSE:
The plan amendment is intended to add to the current text of the Intergovernmental
Coordination Element, in Volume 2 of 2 of the Comprehensive Plan, a policy statement on
annexation into the east rural area of Seminole County. Consideration of this plan
amendment is prompted by the request of Seminole County. The additional language to the
text requires the submission of a large scale comprehensive plan amendment to the Florida
Department of Community Affairs.
EXISTING CONDITrONS:
N/ A - text amendment.
CHRONOLOGY:
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At the January 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, Tony Mathews, Seminole County Planning
Departmen~, conveyed the request of Randy Morris, County Commissioner, that the
City Commission consider incorporating into the City's Comprehensive Plan a
statement that the City will not annex into the east rural area of Seminole County in
the future.
.
At the January 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, the. <:ity Manager stated that the City would be
quite willing to consider adopting a policy statement on annexation into the east rural
area of Seminole County, if the City of Oviedo would adopt the same policy in its
comprehensive plan.
ll. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MvfEND1vfENT ANALYSIS:
The following suIIlmarizes the data and issues which staff analyzed in reviewing this
application.
A. CHANGES TO VOLUME 1 OF 2 mY OF WINTER SPRINGS
CO:M:PREBENSIVE PLAN 1990-2010, THE LAND USE ELEMENT DATA,
INVENTORY & ANALYSIS.
N01E: There are no new data and analysis that will replace or be added to the
e,cisting data and analysis of the Land Use Element.
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Much 18, 1998
LG-CPA-I-98
B. CHANGES TO VOLUME 2 OF 2 CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 1990-2010, THE LAND USE ELEl\1ENT GOALS,
OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES.
NOTE: Ti~e following ,p:>licy statement will be in addition to the existing
Intergovernmental Coordination Element Goals, Objectives and Policies to
form Policy 2 under Objective E: -,
The City of\V"mter Springs shall not, through an involuntary annexation, extend its
eastern boundary beyond the Urban Service Line separating urban land uses from
that area known as the East Rural Area as further defined in Figure 2.8 of the
Seminole County Comprehensive Plan.. The City shall reserve the right to annex
properties upon voluntary request of the property owner(s) beyond the Urban
Service Line I~blished by the county. However, in such cases the City shall
establish land use designations that are compatible with the land use designations
oftbe county's comprehensive plan for that use. The effective date of this policy
shall coincide with the effective date of the adoption of the same policy by the City
of Oviedo. The City ofWmter springs agrees to continue to work with Seminole
county and the City of Oviedo to establish a Joint Planning Agreement to define
the future boundaries of the two cities.
c. CONSISTENCY/COMPATIBILITY WITH CITY, STATE, AND REGIONAL
COMPREm~NSIVE PLANS:
1. wrm: l1ffi CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
This City initiated comprehensive plan amendment is intended to" address the
provisions of 163.3177(11) F.S. which states in part "An intergovernmental
coordina.tion element showing relationships and stating principles and guidelineS
to be us~:d in coordinating the adopted comprehensive plan with the
comprehensive plans of adjacent municipalities, the county, adjacent counties, or
the region, and with the state comprehensive plan." . . .
The comprehensive plan amendment is compatIole with the other goals,
objective:s and policies of the City's Comprehensive Plan, specifically:
Intergovl~rnmenta1 Coordination Element
Objiective E
ObJective F, Policy 3
March 18.1998
LG-CPA-I-98
2. WITH: TIlE STATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: 163.3177(10)(A) F.S.
The c:omprehensive plan amendment is compatible with and furthers goals and
policies of the State Comprehensive Plan in Chapter 187 F.S.
List of goals, objectives and policies that indicate consistency with the State
Comprehensive Plan: 9J-5.021(4) F.AC.
(10) NATURAL SYSTEMS AND RECREATIONAL LANDS
Policy 5, 6, 7
(16) LAND USE
Policy 2, 3
(15) PROPERTY RIGIDS
Policy 1
NOTI~: A Local comprehensive plan shall be consistent with a
Comprehensive Regional Policy Plan or the State Comprehensive
Plan if the local plan is compatlble with and furthers such plans.
9J-5.021(1) F.AC.
The term "compatIble with" means that the local plan is not in
conflict with the State Comprehensive Plan or appropriate
comprehensive regional policy plan. The term "furthers" means to
take action in the direction of realizing goals or policies of the state
or regional plan. 9J-5.021 (2) F.AC.
For the purposes of determining consistency of the local plan with
the State Comprehensive Plan or the appropriate regional policy .
plan, the state or regional plan shall be construed as a whole and no
specific goal and policy shall be construed or applied in isolation
from the other goals and policies in the plans. 9J-5.021(2) F.AC.
3. wrrn THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA COMPREHENSIVE REGIONAL
POUCYPLAN: 186.507 F.S.; 27-E-4F.AC.
The comprehensive plan amendment is compatible with and furthers goals and
policies of the East Central Florida Comprehensive Regional Policy Plan. '
List of goals, objectives and policies that indicate consistency with the East
Central Florida Comprehensive Regional Policy Plan: 9J-5.021 (4) F.AC.
MardI 18. 1998
LG-CPA-I-98
REGIONAL ISSUE 57: BALANCED AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
' Policies 57.1,57.4,57.15,57.16) 57.17
REGIONAL ISSUE 65: INTERGOVERNMENT AI.. COORDINATION
Policy 65.4, 65.5
NOTE:'
A Local comprehensive plan shall be consistent with a
Comprehensive Regional Policy Plan or the State Comprehensive
Plan if the local plan is compatible with and furthers such plans.
9J-5.021(1) F.AC.
The term "compatible with" means that the local plan is not in
conflict with the State Comprehensive Plan or appropriate
comprehensive regional policy plan. The term "furthers" means to
take action in the direction of realizing goals or policies of the state
or regional plan. 9J-5.021(2) F.AC.
For the purposes of determining consistency of the local plan with
the State Comprehensive Plan or the appropriate regional policy
plan, the state or regional plan shall be construed as a whole and no
specific goal and policy shall be construed or applied in isolation
from the other goals and policies in the plans. 9J-5.021 (2) F.AC.
ill. FINDINGS:
.
At the January 26) 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, Tony Mathews, Semii10le County Planning
Department, c:onveyed the request of Randy Morris) County Commissioner, that the
City Commission consider incorporating into the City's Comprehensive Plan a
statement that the City will not annex into the east rural area of Seminole County in .
the future.
.
At the January 26, 1998 meeting of the City Commission, involving adoption of
ordinances relating to Battle Ridge, the City Manager stated that the City would be
quite willing to consider adopting a policy statement on annexation into the east rural
area of Seminclle County, if the City of Oviedo would adopt the same policy in its
comprehensive: plan.
.
This City initiated comprehensive plan amendment addresses and furthers the
provisions of 163.3167(11) F.S. which states in part "An intergovernmental
coordination element showing relationships and stating principles and guidelines to be
used in coordinating the adopted comprehensive plan with the comprehensive plans of
adjacent municipalities) the county) adjacent counties, or the region, and with the state
comprehensive plan." . . .
March 18,1998
LG-cPA-1-98
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The comprehensive plan amendment is compatib1e with the other elements of the
City's Comprehensive Plan
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The comprehensive plan amendment is compatible with and furthers elements of the
State Comprehensive Plan, in Chapter 187 F.S.
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The comprehensive plan amendment is compatible with and furthers elements of the
East Central Florida Comprehensive Regional Policy Plan.
IV. STAFF RECO~.11vfENDA TION:
Staff recommends the Local Planning Agency make the following recommendation to the
City Commission:
That the City Commission hold a first (transmittal) public hearing and transmit to the
Department of Community Affairs the proposed Large Scale Comprehensive Plan
Amendment (LG-CP A-98), to add to the City's Comprehensive Plan
Intergovernmental Coordination Element Volume 2 of 2 of the City's Comprehensive
Plan a policy statement on annexation into the east rural area of Seminole County as
described in this Staff Report.
ATfACHMENT:
1. Figure 2.8 of the Seminole County Comprehensive.Plan
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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
MARCH 18, 1998 - REGULAR MEETING
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Call To Or<ller
Pled2e Of Alle2iance
The Planning and Zoning BoardILocal Planning Agency meeting was called to order
Wednesday, March 18, 1998 at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Bill Fernandez in the Commission
Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
Roll Call
Bill Fernandt:z, Chairman, present
Tom Brown, Vice Chairman, present
Gene Lein, present
Carl Stephens, present
Rosanne Karr, present
Also Presen(
Tom GriIrum:, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator
Approval OlfThe March 4. 1998 Plannin2 & Zonin2 BoardlLPA
Re2ular Mel~tin2 Minutes
Vice-Chairman TOlD Brown commented on the "Future Agenda Items" part of the
minutes, and that the items mentioned in the minutes were not on tonight's Agenda.
Specifically, Vice Chairman Brown was quite concerned about the By-laws and the
timeliness of the review of the E.A.R. Chairman Fernandez also addressed this issue
as to who has the rf:sponsibility for preparing the Agenda.
Motion by Tom Brown. Seconded by Rosanne Karr. Discussion. Tom Grimms
AlCP, Comprehensive PlanninWzoning Coordinator addressed the Board's concern
with the timelines of the E.A.R. It was agreed that the motion to adopt the minutes
of March 4, 1998 would be by consensus of the Board. The minutes were adopted
by consensus.
IT. Re2ular A2enda
A. Amendment to the Intergovernmental Coordination Element-
Volume 2 of2 (LG-CPA-I-98)
Tom Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator addressed the Board
with Staffs findings r1egarding this agenda item.
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Board Member Gene Lein mentioned that he wanted clarification on a couple of items.
The first being Roman Numeral II B - Changes to Volume 2 of 2 City of Winter Springs
Comprehensive Plan 1990-2010, the Land Use Element Goals, Objectives, and Policies;
stating that "The paragraph under the note, it says, the City of Winter Springs shall not
through an involuntary annexation extend its eastern boundary beyond the Urban Service
Line separating urban land uses from that area known as the East Rural Area as further
defined in Figure 2.8 of the Seminole County Comprehensive Plan". Then he added,
"That...I have to go back a little bit to the time that this came up to the Commission
Meeting about the Battle Ridge Area, and one of the proposals made at that time, was just
this...in other words:, we will not...once we settle the Battle Ridge area, we will not go
past that line, etc., etc...and that's what was said that night, and as far as I can recall...that
was the only thing that was said, and that was...it was discussed, and it was probably
maybe part of the reason the decision was made to go ahead with the vote, and so on, and
so forth".
"But, I want to go down to the next sentence in this paragraph; the City. reserves the right
to annex properties upon voluntary request of property owners beyond the Urban Services
established...Service Line established in the County. I haven't heard anything like that
before. This is the first time I've heard of it. It was never mentioned that night in the
Commission meeting. The public was never told about it. That's the one...that's the..Jet
me get both of these first, OK. That was the one confusing point I have. The second one
is, I have in front of me here, the March 23rd Commission Meeting Agenda, and on
Regular Agenda Itc::ms...which is next Monday...right?..on Community Development
DepartmentIPlanning Division...it's says "D" - Request the Commission to hold a Public
Hearing and consider whether to transmit the Large Scale...that's exactly what I'm talking
about - Volume 2 of 2, Comprehensive Plan...that's...whatever is probably ,going to be
discussed here tonight. Also, "F", under the City Manager, requesting the Commission to
adopt Resolution 843, providing for an effective date .of Ordinance 694 Battle Ridge
Annexation Ordinance, and the Battle Ridge Development Agreement staff has
transmitted to Battle: Ridge affairs. Purpose: to' provide an instrument for which the
effective date...it refc~rences an Ordinance...can be formally coordinated on a local map.
Now this infonnation is being...was put on the agenda for next Monday night, states
nothing about that sc~cond...sentence in that paragraph that read...off the...the paper that
we received in our Agenda tonight about the...City shall reserve the right to annex
properties of involuntary request of property owners beyond the Urban Service Line. I'm
a little bit confused?'" Mr. Grimms addressed Board Member Lein's concern, and Board
Member Lein asked "Where did that second sentence come from"? Mr. Grimms replied
that "In drafting it, our staff..made the distinction between involuntary annexation and a
voluntary annexation. We feel that in such cases of voluntary annexation, where a
property owner peti1ions a city to request annexation, that if you see the Land-Use
designations, the City would...establish one of these designations that are compatible with
land-use designations that the County's Comprehensive Plan has already designated for
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that property".
Mr. Grimms also added, "The City Manager...and I certainly feel the same way, that the
fact...I...I've urged: Charles (Carrington), and I've mentioned to the City
Manager...that...don't have the City adopt any policy...that straps uS...that makes
commitments on our part, and leaves a free hand for Oviedo...if..you know, if the
community out there wants protection, they should request the City...of..Winter Springs
to adopt this policy, as well as the City of Oviedo. Now I...in my observing...of..the
proceedings of that night...January 26, 1998 City Commission Meeting..J found.. .I believe
I heard our City Manager, at that meeting, say that the City of Winter Springs is quite
willing to adopt such a policy of not annexing involuntary annexations, providing urban
services, beyond the Urban Service Boundary established by the County's Comprehensive
Plan, eastward and northward into the East Rural Area, provided the City of Winter
Springs...the City of Oviedo does also. We heard no tendering of thinking that way, no
commitment, no indication that...they would take the same approach...at our council, and
propose that too, on the part of the City of Oviedo. The City of Oviedo had a Chairman
of their Commission" Mr. DaLarie there, that's why I was there, and the City's Planning
Director, Mr. Dave Moon there; and we didn't hear anything...any representations to that
effect, or their willingness to tender that...consider it on the part of the City of Oviedo".
Board Member Lein j[Urther stated, "I'm not opposed to annexation..J'm the one to try and
push annexation...I'm just trying...only trying to state what I heard, and I don't have the
minutes from the Commissioner's meeting, and to be perfectly honest with you, sitting in
the audience that night - this was one of the reasons why...the vote probably went the way
it did; because they were going to establish a line that wouldn't be crossed...and..J never
heard the statement about reserving rights.. . matter of fact, a statement.. .I'm pretty
sure...you'd have to check the minutes...because about a year or so ago, there were three
properties that came before us on the other side of the Urban Line...right?..requesting
annexation...then they just kind...of went away. It probably was even mentioned that
Commission night, that...these three properties were out of luck...kind of..and I don't
know if those are the words that we used, that wouldn't be able to...annex themselves into
Wmter Springs. But yet when I read this today, or the other day, I'm wondering where it
carne from, and then when you try to match it up with the agenda that the Commissioners
get, theire not going ltO get that verbiage in there".
Mr. Grimms replied "Oh, yes they will. They're going to see...(what is in your Agenda
packet as the Staffreport)".
Board Member Lein ciJntinued "Yeah, but...it's...they're going to get the verbiage in there,
but...I'd have to assume theid understand and see that there are two different items, right?
One that we will stop at the Urban Line, and one will go over the Urban Line".
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Mr. Grimms replied "They will see exactly what you...see in that paragraph". Board
Member Lein continued "Yeah, OK".
Mr. Grimms replied "And I'm going to urge them to...consider that as that statement
intact, as that statement".
Board Member Leilil added "So, you're telling me that statement was made...by the City
Manager"?
Mr. Grimms agreed, and further added that they have not heard of any concerns from the
County regarding this subject.
Board Member Lein said "I wanted to clarify that point because.. .I'm still very doubtful
about the whole thing...I think it's two separate issues, and one...kind of violates the
other" .
Vice Chairman Brown asked if the introduction had been filed along with the
Comprehensive Plan, as he felt there was conflicting data, and would it be re-written?
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Mr. Grimms stated "My recommendation...I've already made it to the...I guess I can tell
you...members of the Board...my recommendation to the Community Development
Director, is a very, VI~ry massive, significant overhaul to this Comprehensive Plan...needs
to be made". He added that "In the intervening period, there's been a lot of..Iot of
growth, a lot of changes... that...I think we need to re-visit this after the B.AR. is done".
Vice Chairman Brown added that "What I'm asking you to do...! think, is put in your
findings, that you're ,going to either also submit a new introduction, or get rid of the
introduction that's in lthere, when you do modify the plan". There was further discussion
about the introduction and the historical content of it.
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Vice Chairman BrowI1l questioned Mr. Grimms about revising the introduction, and asked,
"Can you put that in your findings"? Mr. Grimms responded, "If you'd like". Vice-
Chairman Brown replied "Yes, I'd Iike...that's where I'm heading". Mr. Grimms agreed to
do this, as the Board was requesting this action.
Board Member Lein commented that "All I just want to...make sure that the Clerk...Mr.
Chainnan...the Clerk has my statement in there that I do not know where that line came
from..! was in attendance at that meeting - I don't recall it. I could be wrong. I don't
recall that line being said".
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Motion: "I'd like to make a motion that...the Local Planning Agency make
recommendation to the City Commission, that the City Commission hold a first
transmittal public hearing to transmit to the Department of Community Affairs the
proposed Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (LG-CPA-98) to add to the
City's Comprehensive Plan, Intergovernmental Coordination Element - Volume 2 of
2 of the City's Comprehensive Plan, a policy statement on Annexation into the East
Rural Area of Seminole County, as described in this staff report and include in the
findings the introduction of Volume 2 of 2 of the Comprehensive Plan wi)) be
reviewed and amended as per the City Commission...the City". The motion was
amended to 'substlitute (LG-CPA-1-98) instead of (LG-CPA-98), and to attach
Figure 2.8 of the Seminole Comprehensive Plan for transmittal. Discussion.
Motion by Brown. Seconded by Stephens. Discussion. Vote: Lein: nay; Stephens:
aye; Brown: aye; Karr: aye; Fernandez: aye. Motion passed.
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Mr. Grimms stated "A couple of members seem a little bit troubled about...this thing
of...the City reserves a right to accept...voluntary annexations...east of the Urban Service
Line. Well, even when a property owner wants...you know, if he approaches the
City...wants to be annexed in...you know, I think that's a reasonable consideration on the
part of the City to...consider his request for annexation. Now, beyond the Urban Service
Line Boundary...that would mean the City could annex the property...but, will not provide
the sewer and water services".
Chairman Fernandez added that there still seems to be discrepancies in the City's speed
limits, the State's speed limits, and school zone speed limits, in regards to the Traffic
Circulation Map.
Mr. Grimms stated to the Board, "I would like to...request the Board to...give
me...authority to appear before t~e March 23rd meeting of the City Commission, and...so
verify that...or...that....you have recommended that the City Commission transmit this
proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment to DCA for their review and comment".
Chairman Fernandez addressed the Board regarding Mr. Grimms' request and said "That
he be allowed to present, what we've just passed, to the City Commission recommending
transmittal, without having to wait until we get our minutes back and approve them at our
next meeting. Board member Lein asked "Will the City get our minutes? Will the
Commissioners get our minutes"? Mr. Grirnms replied that the City Commission always
receives the Planning llnd Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency minutes, but because the
minutes would probably not be completed by the City Clerk's office, (before the next
Commission Meeting which is scheduled for Monday, March 23, 1998), the City
Commission may not see the minutes from tonight's meeting. There was further
. discussion regarding the transmittal of the minutes. Board Member Lein added that "They
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will have no idea....even my second comment saying...to make sure...well, there's
something wrong here then Tom. We have to transmit something to the Commission, that
we looked at...and one member of the Board up here found something strange".
Discussion.
Mr. Grimms stated "I will so note that... as... an addition into the findings of this report,
when they get it, OK"?
Vice Chairman Brown then spoke about Board Member Lein attending most of the
Commission Meetings, and he said that "I'd like to give him (Board Member Lein)
authority of the...of us...give him authority to...to relay to the Commission...rny
comments..J'm sure Tom's going to pick them up...or to relay to the Commission that
with official authority from the Planning and Zoning Board of that comment".
Board Member Lein said "This is a very brief meeting tonight. We've finished the
agenda..J understand...already. Is there any reason why these minutes couldn't be put in a
rough draft and given to the Commission by Monday night"? He further added, "There's
no reason...I...this is a short meeting...there's no reason why they can't get this information
- whether it's a rough draft, or it's the minutes that we'll eventually see later on" .
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Chairman Fernandez brought up to the Board that "It's already on the Agenda, so we've
got to give him permission to allow him to present it to the City Commission for
transmittal hearing, without our formal approval of the minutes, with the understanding
that the Clerk will get...either a rough draft, or our un-approved minutes to the
Commission, in advance of Monday's meeting".
It was agreed by consensus of the Board to accept Chairman FernandeZ' comment
in regards to Mr. G:rimms' previous request.
Vice Chairman Brown commented on annexation issues, and there was discussion
regarding this subject. Mr. Grimms pointed to some of the discussed areas in question on
an "Overlapping Future Annexation Areas" Map.
m. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Chairman Fernandez reminded everyone that any Board Member can suggest something to
be considered as a Future Agenda Item. He (and other Board Members) also stated that
they did not recall thut any specific items had in fact been requested to be scheduled for
tonight's agenda. There was further discussion regarding the City Attorneys' opinions and
comments pertaining to the By-laws. The Board Members were asked if everyone had the
10-15-97 copy; Board Member Rosanne Karr asked for this version.
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Mr. Grimms then told the Board that he is the one who has been preparing the agenda for
the Board.
Vice Chairman brown said, "I'm going to make a motion that...on Agenda Items for
the future...for the first meeting...of April, that we put on there...to review the
E.R.A. pages 32 through 38...and that..Mr. Brook SeaU...and this is the
Parks...and...1 haye a complete breakdown...I went through my records this week
on...on when I was on the Beautification Committee, and they put out this
pamphlet, which is out of date now, and...they have better records than we
do...OK...and we're reviewing the E.A.R...so let's get on board with another
committee that's...that's doing their job, OK. They're re-vamping this thing, so I
say, let's re-vamp :the E.A.R., and let's get somebody out here, so...1 make a motion
that we...we put tilIat on there, and we go over those four pages, which shouldn't
take us over fifteen minutes. Then, that would get the E.A.R. started. I understand
that it's just a reyiew and 1...1 know all that, but if we don't look at it, or know
something about it...that's not going to look very good. Then, as far as the By-laws
go...if...l'd like to put that on there as an item again, and if you want to devote just
fifteen minutes to leach item, is fine with me. On the By-laws, I'd like some action
taken by the Boardl, one way or another".
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Board Member Lein commented that the By-laws should be in place prior to the end of
the Board's fiscal year, and prior to Board Elections. There was further discussion about
the By-laws, and what needs to be done by the City Attorney regarding this matter.
Motion by Brown. The motion was seconded, and then by consensus of the Board it
was agreed to put the By-laws and the E.A.R. (pages 32 - 38) on the n.ext agenda.
Motion passed. '
Mr. Grimms commented that these items will be on the next agenda, and that he will
continue to be responsible for preparing the agenda There was further discussion about
the By-laws, and the election of new Board officers.
IV. ADJOURNlVIENT
Chairman Fernandez adjourned the meeting at 7:59 p.m. with consensus of the Board.
Minutes respectfully submitted by: Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, Deputy City Clerk
City of Winter Springs, Florida
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