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MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN SEMINOLE
COUNTY (CALNO) MEETING held March 7, 2001, 7:00 P.M., Lake Mary City
Commission Chambers, 100 North Country Club Road, Lake Mary, Florida.
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Call to Order
Invocation (Moment of Silence)
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call
PRESENT:
Commissioner/Chairperson Cindy Gennell
Mayor-elect Brady Lessard
Board Member Diane Bauer
Commissioner Steve Wolfram
Commissioner Linda Hart
Commissioner Gary Brender
Commissioner Dan Anderson
Councilman Robert Dallari
Larry Birch, President
John Drago, City Manager
John Litton, City Manager
Thom Greene, Mayor
Commissioner Jan Jernigan
Commissioner Michael McLean
Mary Campbell, Deputy City Clerk
ABSENT:
Dr. David T. Harrison, Ph.D.
Commissioner Dick Vanderweide
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City of Winter Springs
City of Sanford
Seminole County School Board
City of Altamonte Springs
City of Casselberry
City of Lake Mary
City of Longwood
City of Oviedo
The Grove Counseling Center
City of Longwood
City of Lake Mary
City of Lake Mary
City of Lake Mary
City of Lake Mary
City of Lake Mary
Seminole Community College
Seminole County Commission
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Cindy Gennell at 7:12 P.M.
2. Approval of February 2, 2001 Minutes
The minutes were not available at this time and will be placed on the April 4,
2001, agenda.
3. Treasurers Report
Commissioner Brender explained his computer has been off-line and requested
to postpone to the next meeting. He noted that all dues have been received.
Motion was made by Commissioner Brender to postpone the Treasurer's
Report to the next meeting, seconded by Commissioner Wolfram and
motion carried unanimously.
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Commissioner Gennell announced she would order flowers for Secretary's Day
and new pens.
4. Program A: Update on "GreeneWay Missing Link"
Commissioner Brender went over what was happening and what is being seen
on 1-4. The construction of the GreeneWay "missing link" has been on the books
for eight years. The 5.5-mile section of the GreeneWay will cost about $257
million, which will complete the four-lane extension of the GreeneWay to 1-4.
There are no additional toll facilities between 1-4 and the Lake Jesup Bridge
except for 25 cents for the exits. As the road meanders through Sanford, the last
of the major intersections before 1-4 is Rinehart Road. There is an overpass at
Towne Center Boulevard, then the first turning movement will be the right turn to
bring you to a new ramp for eastbound 1-4. There will be no Highway 46 ramp
from the GreeneWay; Highway 46 traffic must use the Rinehart Road exit just as
Highway 46-A traffic will to the south. The current 46 ramp for eastbound 1-4 will
be closed and relocated to exit off of 1-4 just north of the Highway 46-A overpass.
The distance between the two will be bridged by a new "access" road alongside
the eastbound lanes of 1-4, between 1-4 and the Towne Center Mall. Thus a
single exit will provide 1-4 east traffic access to the eastbound GreeneWay as
well as 46 exiting traffic. Westbound GreeneWay traffic will continue west and go
underneath 1-4 at an existing overpass formerly used by the railroad. A one
lane, left circling movement will bring traffic to an on-ramp for westbound 1-4.
There will be a "cloverleaf' exit ramp for 1-4 westbound traffic which will exit off
and go under 1-4 at the same overpass and continue to the GreeneWay
eastbound.
The current 46-A interchange is going to be completely redesigned. Currently
46-A has a loop road which is the off ramp. The westbound 1-4 exit for 46-A will
be moved north to a point adjacent to the mall and a parallel access road will
parallel 1-4 down to the 46-A ramp that now exists. The current off ramp from 1-4
to 46-A will be closed. The goal is to establish traffic off of 1-4 westbound on the
access road before any turning movements are needed. They have to try to
make the road's turning movements as simple as possible.
One major insufficiency is that the intersection from the GreeneWay to 1-4 will
allow for no future plans for any westbound extension of the GreeneWay. You
cannot continue westbound on the GreeneWay from this point because there is
only room for two lanes under 1-4. Commissioner Brender said what he has
dubbed the "northwest passage" or the northwestern section of the GreeneWay
is under discussion, but has no funding and no plans in place. The problem with
this entire redesign is that while it meets state and federal guidelines for bringing
two major roadway systems together, it does not meet many of the local traffic
needs. In the ground or planned the City of Lake Mary and the County have
over 5 million square feet of office that will be within one mile of the 46-A and 1-4
interchange. The only way westbound traffic on the GreeneWay can get to
Heathrow International Business Center is to get off on Rinehart Road, travel
south 1-1/2 miles, make a right on 46-A, go over the bridge and end up at the
north end of Heathrow International Business Center. Future development for
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, 1 Sanford calls for high-density residential and commercial development along that
2 stretch of Rinehart Road. To dump limited access highway traffic into such a
3 densely developed retail area is a mistake.
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5 Commissioner Brender said the proposal he has made is for some minor ramp
6 variations which will allow traffic coming from the GreeneWay towards 1-4 to exit
7 off directly to the 46-A access road, before entering 1-4. The problem is that is
8 too close to other merging movements, thus the federal guidelines would not
9 allow it. He said we in local government are trying to meet local motoring needs,
10 the DOT is trying to meet federal highway standards, and the two are seemingly
11 incompatible. The same sort of ramp variation can bring intended eastbound
12 GreeneWay traffic from 46-A directly to the GreeneWay, without having to impact
13 the Rinehart Road corridor. He has been working with Congressman Mica and
14 will be setting up further meetings with Federal and State DOT. He explained
15 another challenge is that the contractor is under a 750-day completion target. If
16 he gets finished under that, he gets a $10,000 per day bonus, up to $1 million.
17 So as not to impact the bonus or the construction schedule, it has been
18 recommended that construction continue and while it is underway, he would
19 continue working with DOT to get them to recognize there is a problem that
20 needs to be addressed.
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22 Other roadway improvements include the 1-4 widening, starting late this year,
23 from Lake Mary Boulevard to the Lake Monroe Bridge (completion sometime in
24 late 2003). Also the reconstruction of the 1-4 Lake Monroe bridge is underway
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27 Mayor-elect Lessard left the meeting at this time (7:45 P.M.).
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29 Councilman Dallari asked how they could help. Commissioner Brender
30 requested each city send a letter to Congressman Mica. He said he would send
31 a copy of the letter Lake Mary sent. He was also asking some of the businesses
32 to write a letter expressing their concern and their need to ensure more direct
33 highway access from the office areas to the GreeneWay. We also have to
34 address what happens to the "northwest passage' of the GreeneWay. The holdup
35 there has been whether a road can be developed over the Wekiva River without
36 negatively impacting the river. The need to complete the GreeneWay all the way
37 around Orlando seems obvious, albeit unplanned!
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39 Commissioner Anderson asked the timeframe if the tolls would ever disappear.
40 Commissioner Brender said for maintenance and future needs the plan is for it to
41 remain a toll road. A county-wide referendum, such as one done in Jacksonville
42 several years ago, can replace tolls with a small property tax increase.
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44 Commissioner Brender said the Lake Monroe bridge is a major project. They will
45 construct a five-lane bridge east of the current bridge going over Lake Monroe,
46 bring all the traffic onto that bridge, tear down the existing bridge and replace it
47 with a five-lane structure.
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49 Chairperson Gennell thanked Commissioner Brender for his presentation.
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5. Program B: The Grove Counseling Center
Larry Birch, President
Larry. Birch, President of The Grove Counseling Center, thanked the Board for
having him. He said this center was one of the gems of Seminole County and
they provide services to all the cities in Seminole County. This is a 501 C
corporation and is intended to enhance the quality of life for the community.
They provide substance abuse prevention and treatment services. They work
with the School Board and have different kinds of programs targeted to the at-risk
population. They have eight comprehensive prevention/treatment programs and
one is for ages 13 - 17 where they literally turn lives around. The facility has 85
beds.
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Commissioner Brender said he attended a D.A.R.E. graduation and asked if The
Grove was tied to that. Mr. Birch said they are not affiliated but they work closely
with the sheriff's department.
Chairperson Gennell said she was sure Mr. Birch could arrange a tour of the
facility. She thanked Mr. Birch for his presentation and presented him with a pen
as a token of appreciation.
Chairperson Gennell said the next meeting IS scheduled for April 4th in
Longwood.
Chairperson Gennell asked if Oviedo had appointed an alternate. Councilman
Dallari answered negatively. Chairperson Gennell requested Councilman Dallari
to ask the commission to respond.
6. Reports from Members:
SCHOOL BOARD
Ms. Bauer said they have started budget workshops and expected a lean year in
education. They have a pilot program of off-campus suspensions at the Boys
and Girls Club in Sanford. They have committed to a pilot program in
cooperation with AAA for driver's education.
WINTER SPRINGS
Commissioner Gennell said a homeless rescue center approached the city to
locate there. They didn't like the property they looked at and went away. The
mayor found a piece of property, personally took them to the Community
Development Department to make sure it was zoned for that use, which it was.
Now they are going to have a homeless shelter adjacent to the Seminole Trail,
adjacent to a school board piece of property, and immediately adjacent to The
Grove Counseling Center. They will hold a workshop on March 21st. She and
some others visited a homeless center in Savannah, Georgia, and it was a
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1 wonderful facility, but she also found a lot of facts were not reflected in the
2 picture that was painted for them in Winter Springs.
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4 Ms. Bauer expressed concern of the shelter because it was next to a site they
5 had chosen for an elementary school.
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7 Mr. Birch said he had written a letter. He expressed concern of the shelter being
8 next to his facility because the majority of the homeless are drug addicts and/or
9 alcoholics. He felt it was a needed service but it is being located in the wrong
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12 Commissioner Gennell explained the homeless come from Parramore Avenue by
13 van. They bring sick people in and take them back to Parramore when they are
14 well. She didn't think the commission was scheduled to be in a decision-making
15 mode on this issue.
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19 Commissioner Wolfram said they now have water in Crane's Roost Lake. They
20 pumped in 4 million gallons of reclaimed water a couple of nights ago and last
21 week 5 million gallons. He said Dr. Horton Evans has been given the job by Dr.
22 Haggerty to head the Seminole Youth Council. They agreed to give the Council
23 $5,000.
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25 Ms. Bauer said that was a responsibility they all share. One of the primary goals
26 is prevention and addressing the problems before they occur. She encouraged
27 everyone to become involved.
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31 Commissioner Hart said hopefully they were on their last leg with the lawsuit with
32 Florida Power. It is in appeals court April 12th and they would appreciate any
33 support from the cities. The Rachers issue is quiet and they really have no idea
34 what is going on. They have a hearing scheduled for Friday with Judge Nelson.
35 The 436/17-92 corner is filling up and they are getting a new 7-11 in that area.
36 There is a public hearing tonight in Casselberry and they invited Winter Springs
37 and Winter Park residents and anyone surrounding the Seminole Race Track to
38 get feedback. On Saturday they will hold a Rock Around the Block 5K Run at
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43 Commissioner Brender said they had an election February 20th where Jan
44 Jernigan was elected. Olde Lake Mary Days was this past weekend with about
45 1,500 to 2,000 people. It was a wonderful day. Things are not so quiet with the
46 airport issue. They are dealing with PanAm that continues to fly 20-25 year old
47 aircraft and they are not well "hushed' as some of the larger aircraft. Some come
48 in at 12:30 or 1 :00 A.M. The ILS has been flight checked on the other side and
49 they are continuing to deal with that.
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LONGWOOD
Commissioner Anderson said they have had a preliminary release of new design
standards and codes to do away with zoning. That process will go on from now to
a workshop in mid-May and then bring it back as an ordinance. They had the
Joy Awards given to school students for good citizenship.
SIDE 2A
Commissioner Anderson explained that each school picked a student and gave a
biography on why he/she deserved it. Parents, teachers and administrators were
there, and there was a sense of the community coming together.
OVIEDO
Commissioner Dallari said last week they had a workshop with DOT and the
Expressway Authority and they had an interesting approach to traffic concerns
and noise. They discussed an interchange on Red Bug Road that will increase
traffic by 200% at a cost of $23 million. The majority of the commission thought it
was a good idea and asked the Expressway Authority to continue to study it.
7. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mary . Campbell, 0 puty City Clerk
City of Lake Mary
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