HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 1, 1999 Minutes to be Approved
MINUTES
Council of Local Governments in Seminole County
(CALNO)
Sanford City Hall, Second Floor
300 North Park Avenue, Sanford Florida
September 1, 1999
1. Call to Order
The chair called a regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by a moment of Silent
Meditation.
2. Roll Call
PRESENT: Chair Cindy Gennell, Commissioner, City of Winter Springs
Member Linda C. Hart, Commissioner, City of Casselberry
Member Daryl McClain, Seminole County Commissioner
Member Diane Bauer, Seminole County School Board
Member Tom Hagood, Jr., Councilman, City of Oviedo
Member Paul Lovestrand, Mayor, City of Longwood
Member AA. "Mac" McClanahan, Commissioner, City of Sanford
Member Brady Lessard, Commissioner, City of Sanford
Member Gary Brender, Commissioner, City of Lake Mary
Member Dr. Stephen Caldwell Wright, Seminole Community College
ABSENT: Member Diane Bauer, Seminole County School Board
Member Eddie Rose, Commissioner, City of Altamonte Springs
ALSO PRESENT: Randy Morris, Seminole County Commissioner
Citizen Stanley Stevens
3. Approval of the June 2,1999 Minutes
Chairperson Gennell asked if everyone had read the minutes, and if there were
any additions or corrections. Member Hagood moved to approve the minutes as submitted.
Seconded by Member Brender and carried by a unanimous vote.
4. Treasurer's Report
Member Gary Brender reported the balance in the account is $736.70, and there
were no expenses, and none anticipated. Dues will be paid in January. Member McClain moved
to approve the Treasurer's Report. Seconded by Member Hagood and carried by a unanimous
vote.
5. Program A: Responsibility of Leadership
Member Brady Lessard introduced Seminole County Commissioner, Randy
Morris. Commissioner Morris spoke on how government has changed over the last 30 years
with less respect and moral breakdown, although State government is stronger, with less
corruption, than it has ever been in the past. He stated in 1974, which was an off-presidential
election year, 45% of people under the age of 35 voted. In the last Presidential Election less
than 20% of people under the age of 35 voted. He further stated that the two-party system,
which has been in this country for over 200 years, is financially and influentially dominant.
Commissioner Morris asserted that when people do not participate, they do not
comprehend, but government is becoming more accountable, especially when it comes to
election laws. He continued that if you are going to be a leader, and you recognize you are a
student of what you want to lead (which is the government), and you know there is a declining
belief in what you lead (a declining understanding), and if you accept that and you understand
your role, then you are left with only being true to yourself
Further, we have seen an evolution in government, dramatically in the last fifteen
years, in the Federal, State and Local governments. In the prior 100 years the roles were pretty
well defined, but, in attempting to shrink the Federal Government (which never happened),
Local Government responsibilities have been passed down from the Federal and State
Governments. This has caused the local elected officials to work harder at lobbying at the
State and Federal levels, to get the money to pay for programs at their local levels.
In lobbying, it completely changes the local government budget. It has now been
mandated that local government entities must justifY every line item in the budget hearings
based on the mission of the department, and local special bills or any new assignments of
money, unless they are based upon something in your mission statement. At the same time we
have the demand put on us, in our leadership roles, to listen to the people, but there are fewer
people paying attention who understand what we are talking about. We are told we need to take
the issues of the day to the people and let the people vote on them, but the people who are voting
and making the decisions are a very small portion (15% to 17%) of the registered voters. That is
not representative democracy, it is participatory democracy, so our roles have changed again. So,
how do you lead? To thine own selfbe true. Try to explain yourself, and what you do, to
anyone who will listen. Also, build as many relationships as you can. We have to be true to
ourselves as leaders.
6. Program B:
Commissioner Lessard introduced Debra Groseclose who gave a brief
presentation on Kids House in Seminole County. Kids House of Seminole is a child advocacy
center to aid abused children. This aid includes reporting, investigation, treatment and
prosecution, in a friendly, non-threatening environment. Kids House was incorporated in 1996
with membership including all the Police Departments in Seminole County, the Juvenile
Division of the Circuit Court, Department of Children and Families, Seminole County Friends of
Abused Children, Inc., Guardian Ad Litem Program of Seminole County, Child Protection
Team, Office of the State Attorney - 18th Judicial Circuit, Seminole County Mental Health and
Seminole County Sheriffs Office. The Seminole County Commission and Sheriff's Department
donated a house at 5467 St. Rd. 427 for the Child Advocacy Center. It has been remodeled so
the child can be interviewed in a private area, and representative's from each agency can observe
the interview without being seen, so the child only has to go through the story once, and it is
taped. The only thing needed now is funding for a physical examination room and counseling
staff. Seminole County Commission committed $75,000.00, if Kids House could match it.
Home Depot donated $1,000.00 and lots of skilled labor, Rosier Plumbing donated, as will as
Bob Parsell of Ace Hardware. The house will be ready to open in six weeks. Ms. Groseclose
distributed flyers telling a little more about the facility. Commissioner McClain encouraged
each of the cities in Seminole County to look in their budgets and see if they could find funds to
donate as matching funds. Ms. Groseclose reported she is available to speak to any group she is
asked to speak with.
7. Other Business
Chairperson Gennell announced there is a meeting of the Government TV
Council on September 8, 1999 at 2:00 p.m. in the Public Safety Building in the Sheriff's Office.
She further reported she felt CALNO should plan to meet at the Airport for a future meeting.
Ms. Gennell reported next month's meeting will be in Oviedo and will include a
presentation on the Light Rail. On November 3, the Seminole County Commission will do a
program on the Court House update. December's meeting will be hosted by the Seminole
County School Board. Paul Lovestrand reported he would like to hear from Martha Haynie's
Office, the Orange County Comptroller, who has a unique way of funding the Sheriff, which gets
rid of double taxation. He reported in Orange County everybody pays for the jail, but the City's
pay 15% and the County pays 85% (approximately) for the Sheriff. Ms. Gennell reported they
will calendar the next year's program at the January CALNO meeting, and possibly a
representative from the Comptroller's office could speak at that meeting. After discussion it was
decided to have the Comptroller's program at the Longwood meeting in May, 2000.
8. Reports from Members
Mayor Paul Lovestrand, Longwood -- Reported Longwood is in their budget process.
Also, they have twenty-three Charter amendments to go on the ballot on November 2. There
was an initiative that forced seven of them. There will also be three people running for election.
Councilman Tom Hagood, Jr., Oviedo -- Reported they had an election yesterday. The
parks and bond referendum passed with 75% support to take existing revenues and use them to
fund a $5.5 bond to build a gymnasium and ball field at their sports complex, build a new trail
head and expand the trail system in Seminole County, and build a skate board park. They
elected Mayor Mary Lou Andrews (73% of the vote) and Council Members Tom O'Hanlon and
Chris Jepson.
Commissioner A. A. (Mac) McClanahan, Sanford -- Reported their will be a joint
meeting of the City Commission and the Planning & Zoning Board to decide on a definite
direction for growth in the bordering areas, primarily the County areas that will be annexed, and
the utility service.
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ii1I s ~ r, ey have two representatives from the student body witb the Community
Colleges of State Governments, the president and the treasurer. The renovations are moving
along on the old Science Building, and should be completed by January, 2000, which should
make SCC the most advanced Science education facility in the region. Ground is being cleared
for the Oviedo campus, and one of the priorities for funding in the coming year will be for a
joint use facility with UCF on tbe SCC main campus. They have about twenty-two classes heing
offered by UCF on the SCC main campus right now. They now have on-line registration and pay
options.
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Commissioner Daryl McLain, Seminole County Commission __ The Charter Review
Committee will be meeting this month, and their budget will be in the month of September.
Board Member Diane Bauer, SeminOle County School Board-- Reported she doesn't
know the reason Seminole County Schools rated so poorly on the State A + program, it could be
because of attendance, drop-out rate, it could be the number of students tested, or a number of
other issues. It is not just a check-list that they use for rating, it is much more involved.
Possibly during the December program they can include a detailed explanation of how the rating
system works and what is involved. She also reported the POtential closing of Crooms as an
alternative high school and having it replaced by an elementary school has been reported in the
media. There are approximately 462 students at Crooms now, and there was a recommendation
by Staff, and possibly a misconception that '1he School Board said", it should be closed. On
September 14, 1999, members of the community have been invited to come to the School Board
for a work session, during which they have every right, responsibility and invitation, to come and
tell what they want the Board to know. No decision has been made, and will not be made, until
the Board members are able to do the research necessary to detennine what is in the best interest
of the students.
Commissioner Cindy Gennell, Winter Springs - The Town Center project is moving
along slowly, and the grand scale has not been ruled out. Also, the newspaper reported Winter
Springs as being 0% Y2K compliant, when in fact they are I 00% compliant. The paper used a
report from the State, which was in error. Winter Springs has qualifYing going on right now for
an election for the Mayor and two Commission seats.
Commissioner Eddie Rose, Altamonte Springs __ Not present.
Commissioner Linda C. Hart, Casselherry -- Reported Casselbeny was also reported
they were not Y2K compliant, when in fact they are. The comer of 17-92 and 436 has broken
ground for improvements, and a few buildings have been contracted. Kane's fumiture is moving
to a new bUilding across from Bob Evans. They also have a new gated community with some
homes already constructed.
Commissioner Gary Brender, Lake Mary -- Reported they broke ground last week for
their new police station. The estimates were $4.3 million, and through value engineering they
are now at $3.9 mill ion, exclusive of the I and. It will be about a $4.5 to $4.7 mi lIion project,
Interim Vice President Dr. Stephen Caldwell Wright, Seminole Community College
-- Reported enrollment at the college is up about 4% or 5%, but it is not in the double digits as
hoped. Further, they had the number one program for cooperative education student in the
nation last year. They have two representatives from the student body with the Community
Colleges of State Governments, the president and the treasurer. The renovations are moving
along on the old Science Building, and should be completed by January, 2000, which should
make SCC the most advanced Science education facility in the region. Ground is being cleared
for the Oviedo campus, and one of the priorities for funding in the coming year will be for a
joint use facility with UCF on the SCC main campus. They have about twenty-two classes being
offered by UCF on the SCC main campus right now. They now have on-line registration and pay
options.
Commissioner Daryl McLain, Seminole County Commission -- The Charter Review
Committee will be meeting this month, and their budget will be in the month of September.
Board Member Diane Bauer, Seminole County School Board -- Reported she doesn't
know the reason Seminole County Schools rated so poorly on the State A + program, it could be
because of attendance, drop-out rate, it could be the number of students tested, or a number of
other issues. It is not just a check-list that they use for rating, it is much more involved.
Possibly during the December program they can include a detailed explanation of how the rating
system works and what is involved. She also reported the potential closing of Crooms as an
alternative high school and having it replaced by an elementary school has been reported in the
media. There are approximately 462 students at Crooms now, and there was a recommendation
by Staff, and possibly a misconception that "the School Board said", it should be closed. On
September 14, 1999, members of the community have been invited to come to the School Board
for a work session, during which they have every right, responsibility and invitation, to come and
tell what they want the Board to know. No decision has been made, and will not be made, until
the Board members are able to do the research necessary to determine what is in the best interest
ofthe students.
Commissioner Cindy Gennell, Winter Springs -- The Town Center project is moving
along slowly, and the grand scale has not been ruled out. Also, the newspaper reported Winter
Springs as being 0% Y2K compliant, when in fact they are 100% compliant. The paper used a
report from the State, which was in error. Winter Springs has qualifying going on right now for
an election for the Mayor and two Commission seats.
Commissioner Eddie Rose, Altamonte Springs -- Not present.
Commissioner Linda C. Hart, Casselberry -- Reported Casselberry was also reported
as not being Y2K compliant, when in fact they are. The comer of 17-92 and 436 has broken
ground for improvements, and a few buildings have been contracted. Kane's furniture is moving
to a new building across from Bob Evans. They also have a new gated community with some
homes already constructed.
Commissioner Gary Brender, Lake Mary -- Reported they broke ground last week for
their new police station. The estimates were $4.3 million, and through value engineering they
are now at $3.9 million, exclusive of the land. It will be about a $4.5 to $4.7 million project,
with $1.6 million bonded and the rest coming out of the General Fund. It is about 28,000 square
feet which will be about 1/3 empty when completed, to be available for future growth. It will be
on Lakeview Avenue, about two blocks from City Hall. They would like to turn the downtown
into a southern colonial style architecture, with streetscaping and lighting. There is a lot of
office development in Lake Mary, and Lake Mary Preparatory School opened Monday with 250
students in grades K-9. They will be adding a grade each year until they reach K-12. The
current building of 40,000 sq. ft. will house up to 500 students, and they have already requested
a land use change for an additional 11.5 acres to add another 30,000 sq. ft. building to house up
to a thousand in a K-12 private, non-denominational school. Learning International Unlimited
Schools is the owner, and they own two or three others including three schools in Ohio, one in
Pennsylvania, and one in St. Martin in the Bahamas. Also, the 30,000 sq ft. building probably
will also have a 50 meter indoor swimming pool. The students have a choice of three uniforms.
Tuition is $7,900.00 for seventh, eighth and ninth grade, which includes a laptop that is issued to
every student. Middle school is $5,900.00 and elementary is $4,900.00. They expected one
class for each grade level, and they have already had to expand to two classes for kindergarten,
second, fifth and seventh, because they do not want to go over fifteen students per teacher.
Chairperson Gennell requested members to think about meeting in July and August
because several things have come up such as SCC wanting to host a meeting, and the possibility
of meeting at the Airport (and seeing the Sheriff's office with the Emergency Management
Center).
Stanley Stevens, citizen, reported the Development Advisory Board is a group of people
that meet regularly with the planners and staff of Seminole County. This Board seems to be the
best kept secret. Commissioner McLain reported it has not been a secret, the business
community that works on a day to day basis with County Government (building inspectors,
building department and planning department) requested they have an opportunity to make
recommendations to County staff for consideration of changes that would streamline
government and make their jobs easier. It was never focused on land and planning, but rather
around building departments, inspections, procedures, how and when water hookups are paid
for, etc. A prior Board decided they should hear what the people who use their services think
needs to be done to change things to make it better for them and cheaper for government. Right
now the concern of the Development Advisory Board is how the County calculates density. The
County staff agreed to look at the way density is calculated and have it as a plan or text
amendment, and it was a recommendation from the Development Advisory Board. All of those
were thrown out, but may be reconsidered. There are many other committees that involve
ordinary, everyday citizens.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted by:
Ma~~ i!ryp
Deputy City Clerk, City of Sanford