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CITY OF ~AVE MRRY, FL
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MINUTES OF THE CALNO MEETING he Id Wednesday, Septembel' 11, 1996, 7: 00
P.M" Lake Mary City Commission Chambers, 100 Nort.h Country Club Road,
1. Silent Meditation
Pledge of Allegiance
Call to order
Thp meeting was called to order by Chairperson Cindy Gennell dt 7:00
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Special thanks was given to Chick-Pil-A for catering dinner.
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COMlnissilHwr' Pdt W.:trren (In'rived Late)
Ldrry Strickler
Commi '~":ioneI: Cindy Germell
CO!"!;:'} loner Gary Brender
Co,,- i oner Ron Sa.rqent
COlfill., .;i.t')Jlcr Turn Hagood, .Jr.
County Commission
County Schonl BORrd
Wi' t <:r ~prings
Lake Mary
I.ongwood
Oviedo
C'0lliJ1' i ss j onc:r Pdt Feu":tndez Absent
CVlIunissioner Ear 1 McMlll ten - Absent
(':Hnmi S~ ioner: Whi ley Eckste in - Absent
AILam0nt~ Spriny~
Casselbe
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Trea3ur~r'9 Report
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]] C0mm1Hsioner Brender reported the current balance is $581.36. The h~nk
34 has been charg inq $8 peL' month ~ervice charge which st.al:tf.'(1 over t hn
35 St;mmer and he would be contacting the bank and try to get that money
36 t.ctck. He Lt;:celved $50 in dues which have not yet bEe'en d(~po:-;11.ec1.
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Chairman Gennell said ~arl McMullen had resigned and she would like to
serve on thtA committee.
MDtlon WdS made by Larry Strickler to appoint Cindy Genne1l to
t.ne 'T'ourist Development Committee, seconded by Gary Brender'
and motion carried unanimously.
6, App0int.rnenL to Juvenile Justice Committee
">1 Chalrm...n Gennel1 selid this committee tlad two meetinqs. The- 8X(!('td i..'{~
S? I1'lP(d.iDg5 .-'J(<" n..--t,i the first Fri1.=ty of every mont.h, Seminole County
')1 Servjce~ Rui1ding, at 8:30 A.M. ;'he1r council meets the second Friday
"4 uf (>very (lwnt.h, Educational Supp rL Center, at. 8:30 A,M.
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Ron Sargent volunteered to serve on this committee.
Motion was made by Gary Brender to appoint Ron Sargent to the
Juvenile Just.ice Committee, seconded by La('ty Strh::kler and
motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Gennel] introduced Uick Hudson, Office of Management and Budget
of Seminole County for a presentation on the gas tax.
Mr. Hudson said F.S. 336.025 authorizes the program, the rate is
optLonal from l-cenL Lo 6 cents per gallon, it permits the development
of an inLerlocal agreement to det.erroine a distI:ibution formula in I i Au
of ~tdndard formulas, and it establishes procedurAs for resolution~ "f
di$pl..t..(~S L'8gardlng di:.;;tribut1on.
,>1r. Hudson Said LIt(~ Seminole County Code ls the operative device I (,r
':'slabli~hinrJ Lhe lnf::'thod of djstr i but j on arHi collection of the tdX,
Ther,:: is not a 6-cent.s t_ax tmt. actually two separate taxes whi ch .)....t==
used t09o~her: a 4-cenLs t~x ~ffectlve September 1, 1983 Lo August 31,
2013 and a 2 cents tax effective September 1, 1985 to August 31, 2015.
Both can be extended and distribution is in accordance with the
interloc~: agreement.
Mr. Hudson said the interlocal agreement is [or the distrihution of Lctx
dur-ir1q the (Lnat.ion of the tax. He dIdn't know if the int~rluc.:~
d9TE~t~mt':nL hdd d separate early out, but it is required to re'
;,u:'qot.idtt-'/.ti.' c5Labli::jh the distrlbution each year. Florida Stat.\Jt~s
requireR the re-establishment of the distribution method periodically
even if there is no interlocal agreement. If the standard distributiu~
fnrmula is used inst.ead of an int.erlocal agreement., it is estab1ish~rl t,t.
UIle pulnt and tll,_~TI stays in ~ff/:::"ct for 10 years.
Xc. HudsOl1 said lh~ interlocal agreement was ~igned on August 12, 19~6,
by Al tamonte Springs, Lake Mary, Oviedo, Sanford, Winter Springs and
Semino 1 e Count.y which established the distl'ibulion formula for calendar
years 1988 and thereafter. The County portion was established at 6:1.6%
(lnd the muni(:ipal portion at 36.4%, which was distribut.ed by formula.
Any l..hdBYE~ j n disLL'lbution has to take into consideration <:lny l)()/Id
C,)VPflaJlts '..lr f.-.l~:dqes of bond I:JIQceed::.; fL'om those U"1xes.
MJ. Hudson Su id t he municipal shaLe is bas(.~d on a i loat inq, five Yl'::'ar
formula whidl is ddj usted annually and is based on certain elig .l.blc
transportation expenses.
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Sargent quest,loned why Long\'/Ood and Casselberry were
the participation when they didn't sign an inter' 1 iiCd I
Mr. H~dson said the state does not ~equire 100% of the municipalities to
agree but 100% does have to participate because it is a County tax.
Mr. Hudson 5<1.id qua Ii fied expendi tures include publ ic transportdt i un
operation and maintenanCf~; ruadway/right-ot-way maintenance dll<.t
equ i pment. i road',vay /right~ of '-way drai nage i street lighting; traf fie signs
dwl enY.l.1It..~el.'in9, signalization and pavE~menl marki ngs; bridqe maintI:;'TI<.1f1I"_!
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1 and operation; debt service and current expenditures for transportation
2 capital projects including construction/reconstruction of roads.
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5 challenge has to be made to the Administrative Commission in Tallahassee
6 but the part ies agreed to go thL'ough th is process: sllbmi t the objection
7 writing Lo the Seminole County Office of Management and Budget which
8 would provide CALNO with an analysis of the challenge within 30 days.
9 CALNO will, within 30 days, hear the challenge at a special meeting
10 called solely for said purpose at which CALNO shall render an advisory
11 and non-binding opinion as to the validity of the challenge. Once the
12 opinion is rendered, the city with the disagreement would apply the
1 J d i s,~greement to the Admin i st.rflt ion Commission.
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16 taxes exist and can be extended in 3D-year increments.
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Comm1g::;)oner Sacgent asked if then~ was a time limit in which thi~ money
must be spenL. Mr. Hudson said he didn't think so.
Chairman Gennell thanked Mr. Hudson for his presentation and preSe!lled
him a token of appreciation.
7. Pr0gr'dms
a. 1;rJe 11 Connected Community
Richard Fogelsong, Chairman of the Poli tics Department of Roll ins
College and President ot Well Connected Community of Central Florida,
came forwal'd to speak on the communi ty computer network they have
created.
Mr. Pogelsong said they were a "civic computer network." and is something
new and spoke on some of the challenges confronted .in a computer paqe.
There i 8 t~he probl em of anonymi ty and is not the same kinds of
rest raintB as in face- to - face relationships I and they commi tted to u::;ing
comput.ers and on-line communication to reinforce existing geographical
communities. Another problem is it hasn't provided services t.hat
bnn(!fit. ()n1innry people. The idea if a Well Connected communit.y 1::; tCJ
,:rl'cttl~ an ou-linl;~ cOIllput~er forum that will provide servlces dnd
informAtion about local areas. They are a civic urganization, have ft
citizen basea board, were founded in response to a citizen lrlitiative,
but are also a computer network. Their web si"Le is a very comprehensive
array of information and services about Central Florida, contains
concept maps (weather, sports, government, culture, entertainment, etc.)
and when someone clicks on those sites, it goes to other data bases fur
information. They have been in existence for one year, have plans to
enhance thei r site in order to use a search engine to obtain informat.ion
on services. etc. They plan to have a calendar of events, are talking
about pr()viding E-mail and plan within the year to have "chat rooms" to
talk abuut public policy is::;ues.
Mr. FQgelsong saId a organization in Orange County called County Watch
pulled together the leadership of both republican and democratic parties
a program of initiatives that could be taken in Orange County to try to
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improve access to CQunty government. They decided to create their own
citizen based civic network to facilitate the exchange of information
and serviCAS. They decided it should be locally oriented but regional
in scope, citizen based, have both promotional and operational roles.
As they go forward Lhey will be encouragiMj local governments to have a
web presence.
Mr. Fogelsong said the Orlando Sentinel had announced they would be
starting "Digital Cities" t,hat will otfer similar services. He
encouraged everyone to visit his site.
Mr. strickler asked if any schools utilized these services.
~1..t". Fogelsong said they had a represenLaLlve from the OrangE' County
put)l ic schools on their board and as they go forward, tel t there was i't
lot of room for connections there with libraries, schools, arts
organL"ations, etc. and provide public access to computers.
Mr. Strickler said t.he Seminole County School Board just hired a Chief
Information Ufficer, and would be ~harjng Lhiti information with him.
Commissioner Brender asked about the phySical cwpects and where and who
would be providing this connectivity.
Mr. Fogelsong said civic networks basically have two options. One ls to
have dial-up services where people call on the phone line. Sprint.. has
offered initially to give them free lines but wouJdn't last forever.
The other course of action is to have an internet location and no phone
lines are needed. However, for people to access, they need to have a
way of getting on the internet through work, AOL, Compuserve, etc. Not
everyone has one of those memberships but are fairly inexpensive, around
$10 per month.
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Chairman Gennell thanked Mr. Fogelsong and presented him with a token of
appreciation.
Chairman Gennell called for a break at 8:05 P.M. The meeting reconvened
at 8:14 P.M.
b. S~m1nole County Traits Task Force Report
Jeff Payne said he was an engineer and got involved in trails becau8~ he
heard a ~tretch of railroad was being abandoned. He got involved wiLh
a citizens group working to convert that railroad I1ne into a paved,
multi-use facility. One trail starts at east Winter Park to Oviedo and
Winter Springs, dnd includes a connection in the south shores of Lake
Jessup. Another trail, Seminole-Wekiva, runs from Altamonte Springs to
Lake Sylvan and is slated for eonstrllction jn 1998. On the east side of
old State Road 13 is a natural alignment for hiking running by Chuluot.a
and Big Reon State Forest.
Mr. Payne said the County Commission funned a 'Trails and Greenways Tat,k
Force cons isting of representatives from each ci ty, some at 1 arge
appointments, and representatives from user groups for a total of 24
citizens. The thrusts behind creating this task force was the need fClr
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regional coordination, these trails needed to have roots in the
conununity, and they held a charrette and came up with a plan and policy
recommendations. The city of Winter Springs has created its own task
force.
Mr. Payne said the benefits of the trails are preservation, recreation
and transpol"tation. The corridors presHrve r:lbbons of green, can
p~utect sensitive lands, aids in stormwater management and can function
as bufters. For recreation there are paved and natural trails. These
Lrai Is addres~ the concerns of quiet, open space and hiki ng paths.
These parks make connections between offices, parks, schools, etc. In
order to build these trails they need ac.~quisition, development. and
operation.
Commissioner Pat Warren arrived at this time (8:20 P.M.).
Mr. Payne sald a major concern is that of security dnd they have talked
to the Seminole County Sheriff' s Department and have agreed t.O put
bIcycle pat.r'()lmen on the trails. Scme t.rai15 have had succes~ with
~ivilian bike patrols.
Mr. Payne pointed out that it's a choice between a trail or an overgrown
railroad. They could form an adopt-a-trail program and civic clubs take
care of portions of the trail.
Mr. Payne said LL'd.i 15 act like a communi ty' s front porch, prov i.des
preservation of natural corridors, recreation for residents, and provide
means of transportation to neighborhoods, downtowns, schools and parks.
Commissioner Brender asked what the city governments can do to plan.
Ben Grlfflth, Semin(Jle Count.y Planner, [-;aid the main thing is to just be
aware of an existing or proposed/planned traoll. He tried 'to keep up
wi th all t.he count.y and state pr"oject.B and try to work with them. He
said they would be making a presentation to Lake Mary at. t.hE" Sep1.emb(Jr
19th Commission meet i.ng. The most. important lh i n9 is i.ntergovernmental
coordination between the county, the cities and task force with the
opportunity to come together.
Chairman Gennell thanked them for their presentation8.
Chairman Gennel1 distributed a letter from Donna McIntosh regarding the
status of Ame.r.'ica's brief.
eha t rman Gennell distributed a revised CALNO meet tng/program li st.
Chairman GennHIl distributed a n~vised CALNO member U st with changes in
City Clerks.
8. Unfinisheq Business
a. New Stationery
Chairman Gennell said Commissioner Eckst.ein was having Seminole Hiqh
School de$ign t.h~ stati.onery and should be bringing a draft to the noxt
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3 Commissioner Sargent said that Longwood was scheduled to host the
4 October 2nd meeting and hCld a problem with the ambulance updat.e because
5 most of the fire department would all be gone that week.
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7 The October 2nd meeting will be hosted by Oviedo and
8 Commissioner Hagood will come up with a topic: to discuss.
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10 'L'he November 6th meeting will be health in Longwood and
11 discuss the Landfill and Ambulance Updates.
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15 CeJuuni ssioner Warren said the County was coming along in most areas awl
16 could respond to any questions the member~ may have. She (meou. a.ged
17 everyone to get out an vote.
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19 Mr. Strickler: said in November there would be two new SCL. \1 board
20 memt/ors, Larry Furlong and Bob Goff.
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23 new Wint.er Springs Hj gh SchOol becoming a charter school. 'fhH
24 philosophy he is hearing is charter schools are not totally separate and
25 independent entities. The school board still has the responsibility for
26 those t~x dollars and making Sure whoever wants to run a charter school
27 1s capable. The school board wants to work with somebody dCO
28 developing a charter school but they want to find some niche JfIdrk( ,;j dnd
29 needs that are not being met now. They also want to make sure they
30 start small enough with some pilots 80 they can measure performance dnd
31 make sure the people they are dealing with are people they could entrust
32 to move onto bigger and better charter schools in the future.
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34 Commissioner Gennell had no report but encouraged everyone to set up a
35 bike task force.
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37 Conunis!,Jioner Brender said Lake Mary continues to deal with water. They
38 are working with Seminole County and St. Johns River Water Management
39 District in forming a t.ri-party agreement as far as control on the
40 Cryslal Lake Basin to allow the Count.y and City to provide some kind of
41 structure to control the basin without having to go to St. Johns each
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44 Commissioner Brender said new office bui ldings going up soon include
45 HTE, BellSouth, office building and two hotels in Primera.
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47 Commissioner Sargent announced qual! fying in Longwood opened last f'riday
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51 is sponsoring a dog show on September 21st.
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54 Sports Couunission and Seminole County t,o make a bid to have the U. s.
55 Tennis Association relocate their headquarters to Oviedo.
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Commissioner Hagood said oviedo was in Lhe process of getting a Parks
and Recreation and Sidewalks Master Plan developed in support of doing
a citizen referendum on a bond.
Chai rman Gennell asked about the Cf)HVent i on center. Commissioner Wi) rren
said it was at a standstill but It may happen in the future.
Cha i rman Gennell asked abnu t. thfJ S LOLIllWctler issue. Commi 5S ioner. Wa.rn:n
SaId that issue would be on the ballot.
Mr. Strickler said in regard to towers, does the County and/or the
cities see a need for coming together to get some controls of pes and
cellular-type towers. Some municipalities dnd counties have forced the
1. try to the table to co]}aborative]y develop a plan the industry and
lmental entitles can live with and minjmi7.E> th(~ number' of tulctl
~ that will cv~r go up, and maximize cooperation amon,] comppt.itors,
'.~ are no experts in government on this issue but are a lot of
s Itants who give advice. Citizens are going to demand more nnn-land
't. Hervices, the demand for towers wi 11 bf"! ffinre, and the <""j '-'5 will
,. " uf' lot of towers sea t terp.d 11 11 over the county. 'r,.!€.' ~ ~"; no
fol. 'l'here is a way to st.ructure it through a comp(l:~!lnn:,,>~. vC
j".lanning arrangf.}ment th.;it forces tl".e industry to help come up wi t.h a
solution. They needed to start now before there is too much of a demand
for tower space to work together~-industry and local governmpnt5 county-
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, H~9ood said they needed to mak~ sure they are placod in a
,'e another prov ider comes in, they C8 n use the same t :.n~er .
Mr. St.rickler said the competitors don't want to share information wit.h
c~aGI other. There are common tower 1 ora t ions Chat" can mE~et. UIP i r' rlf~t~d!'i
for the next l~ to 20 years, and they know gener~lly where the locatiuns
are. They could be located in football stadiums, above a light tower,
on churches, schools or muoici.pal pI.'operti.es. The industry and
government l1ef!ds can be d.ccuIlunouaLed at. the same time as long as the
government entities force the industry to come to the table and work
t.ogot hp.r on that common goal. He recorruut::-nded CALNO talk and work toward
that.
Commissioner Brender said Lake Mary just. passed a moratorium on new
t('1wers. They Cllt a dedl. with one company that will provide for up t.()
fc')ur other supp] i ers and construct the pol e to accommodate the extra
providers.
Commiss iont....r Ha']ood asked where they would f i od someon~ wi th enough
kno~ledge to explain it and give a recommendation.
Mr. Strickler sdid lhey the industry in the room with a representutive
from each company, tell them the goals and obje~tive5 to minimi~e the
number of tnwer~, and work it nut. The i.ndustry will come up wit.h a
so 1 ut i,m if they want to do bus i rW::;G in your' c i t.y OJ: count. y .
Chairman Gennell ::;aid she would put discussion fJf Conununicat ions Towers
on the next agenda.
Commissioner Brender asked about eCOJ'tOmtc incentives.
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1 Commissioner Warren said they had set as ide $250,000 and anot.her
2 $200,000 in contingency that could be pulled for the right project, dnd
3 they are being more selective.
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5 Chairman Gennel] questioned t.he numbE:!r of jobs these incent.ives act.IJrl.lly
6 provide and was something they should look closely at.
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9 by Commtssioner Sargent., and motion carried unanimously.
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'mmissioner Cindy Gannell
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