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I. CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of June 25, 2001 of the City Commission was called to order by
Mayor Paul P. Partyka at 6:32 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Mlmicipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., absent
Commissioner Cindy Gennell, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
PRESENTATIONS
A. City Manager
Presentation Of The "Aware Of Excellence" Award (From The Fields Of Excellence
Program) To The Parks And Recreation Department.
Mayor Partyka presented an award to Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department
Director and his staff for the "Fields of Excellence" Program.
Mayor Partyka welcomed former Mayor Phil Kulbes and his wife who were in the
audience.
PRESENTATIONS
B. City Manager
Requesting The Commission Receive The Presentations Of Employee Recognition
Awards.
Mayor Partyka explained the City's new Employee Recognition Awards Program, and
awards were given out to the following individuals:
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5 Years Of Service:
Mr. Tracy D. Baker, Maintenance Worker, Utility Department; Ms. Robin Bernosky,
Corporal, Police Department; Ms. Patricia J Best, Accounts Payable Clerk, Finance
Department; Ms. Katherine Bruno, Customer Service Representative, Utility
Billing/Finance Department; Ms. Constance E. Fifelski, Communications Operator II,
Police Department; Ms. Tracy Lynn Fugate, Corporal, Police Department; Ms. Terri
Guerra, Communications Operator II, Police Department; Mr. Robert Heatwole, Captain,
Police Department; Mr. Pascual Herrera, Corporal, Police Department; Mr. Ed Hinchey,
Firefighter/Rescue Technician, Fire Department; Mr. Alan G. Hill, Public Works
Superintendent, Public Works Department; Mr. David Kerr, Maintenance Mechanic II,
Utility Department; Ms. Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk, Office Of The City Clerk;
Mr. Shane Massari, Firefighter/Rescue Technician, Fire Department; Ms. Tammy
Mathison, Communications Operator II, Police Department; Mr. Ronald W McLemore,
City Manager, Office Of The City Manager; Mr. Jack Morgan, Corporal, Police
Department; Mr. William Nelson, Fleet Service Mechanic I, Public Works Department;
Ms. Zynka P. Perez, Engineering Inspector/Technician, Engineering Division/Public
Works Department; Ms. Catherine Presley, Records Clerk, Police Department; Mr, Kevin
Lee Presley, Lance Corporal, Police Department; Mr. Kevin Sims, FirefighterfRescue
Technician, Fire Department; Ms. Michelle Turner, Records Clerk, Police Department;
Mr. James R. Wickman, Corporal, Police Department; Mr. Michael Williams, Meter
Reader II, Meter Services/Finance Department.
10 Years Of Service:
Mr. Stephen Baggs, Lead Water Plant Operator, Utility Department; Mr. Marc Baumgart,
EMS Division Chief, Fire Department; Ms. Georgia Sue Coffman, Senior Center
Manager, Senior Center/Parks And Recreation Department; Ms. Sylvia P. Denson, Permit
Specialist, Building Division/Community Development Department; Mr. Ron Estep,
Maintenance Mechanic I, Utility Department; Mr. Fred Gold, Corporal, Police
Department; Mr. Thomas Grey, Firefighter/Apparatus Operator, Fire Department; Mr.
Matt Hool, Lieutenant, Fire Department; Mr. Stephen Paul Keefer, Firefighter/Apparatus
Operator, Fire Department; Mr. Kipton D. Lockcuff, Director, Public Works/Utility
Department; Mr. Steve Molnar, Firefighter/Apparatus Operator, Fire Department; Mr.
Carlos Manuel Morales, Service Technician, Meter Services/Finance Department; Mr.
Bill A. Morris, Maintenance Mechanic I, Utility Department; Ms. Janice Palladino,
Secretary To The City Manager, Office Of The City Manager; Mr. Richard Wayne
Riggle, Firefighter/Apparatus Operator, Fire Department; Mr. Jose R. Romero, Corporal,
Police Department; Mr. Miguel Sanchez, Team Leader, Utility Department; Mr. Doug
Seely, Corporal, Police Department; Mr. Gregg Tischler, Lieutenant, Police Department;
Ms. Lena Titus, Records Clerk Supervisor, Police Department; Ms. Mary Watson,
Computer Systems Manager, Police Department.
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15 Years Of Service:
Mr. Richard Brookover, Heavy Equipment Operator, Public Works Department; Mr.
Donald Cheney, Utilities Superintendent, Utility Department; Mr. Ronald Cox, Corporal,
Police Department; Mr. Edward Forrest, Battalion Chief, Fire Department; Mr. Ralph
Fuccillo, Waste Water Plant Operator, Utility Department; Mr. Corey Green, Lieutenant,
Fire Department; Mr. James Hanford Kennedy, Lead Maintenance Worker, Parks And
Recreation Department; Mr. James E. Morris, Fleet Service Mechanic II, Public Works
Department; Mr. David G. Myers, Battalion Chief, Fire Department; Mr. Michael E.
Noland, Captain, Police Department; Mr. Justino Rolon, Waste Water Plant Operator/Lab
Coordinator, Utility Department; Ms. Patricia J Schraff, Administrative Secretary, Fire
Department; Ms. Ellen Simpson, Administrative Assistant, Police Department; Mr.
Norman Douglas Taylor, Utilities Superintendent, Utility Department; Mr. Glenn E.
Tolleson, Captain, Police Department; Mr. James Wilkins, Captain, Police Department;
Ms. Mary Anne Willett, Administrative Secretary, Public Works Department; Mr. 'I11Omas
J Wise, Waste Water Plant Operator, Utility Department.
20 Years Of Service:
Mr. Robert E. Dallas, Fire Marshall, Fire Department; Mr. David O'Brien, Deputy Fire
Chief, Fire Department; Mr. William Rivera, Jr., Firefighter Lieutenant, Fire Department.
25 Years Of Service:
Mr. Timothy J Lallathin, Chief, Fire Department; Ms. Mary N. Wilson, Human
Resources Coordinator, Human Resources Division/General Services Department.
Mayor Partyka called a break at approximately 7:20 p.m.
The Meeting was called back at 7:36p.m.
PRESENTATIONS
C. City Manager
Requesting The Commission, To Be Updated By Director Of Community Relations
Teresa Rose, Meal On Wheels Etc. On The Agency's Name Change, And New And
Expanding Programs Meals On Wheels Provides To The Seniors Of Seminole
County And To Ask For Continued Support From The City Of Winter Sprin~:s.
Ms. Teresa Rose of "Meals on Wheels, Etc." discussed some of the programs that this
organization offers and asked for the Commission's consideration of a line item
contribution to this organization.
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Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked Ms. Rose if she knew if the National organization
had been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Ms. Rose was not sure about this, but said
that she would check on this.
Mayor Partyka asked Mr. Pula for an update on the upcoming Fourth of July event.
Tape I/Side B
Mr. Pula advised those in attendance about some of things planned for the Fourth of July
celebration.
II. PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Louise Conine, 745 Sybilwood Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on keeping
the parks as they are and asked that the rest of the park remain natural. Ms. Conine also
spoke of the batting cages and gave a document to the Commission regarding her
remarks. A two (2) page petition was submitted with Ms. Conine's document.
Mr. Marc Arnold, 749 Sybilwood Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the batting
cages and suggested that Option 4 would be the best recommendation.
Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod asked if Mr. Arnold or Ms. Conine had been part of
the "Committee that was put together on Trotwood, as to the location and the redesign of
that park?" Brief discussion.
III. CONSENT
CONSENT
A. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The Minutes Of The June 11, 2001 Regular City Commission MEding.
CONSENT
B. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-16, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Lee Ferguson For His Service On The Districting
Commission.
CONSENT
C. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-17, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Fllorida,
Expressing Appreciation To James Mathews For His Service On The Distlricting
Commission.
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CONSENT
D. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-18, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, F'lorida,
Expressing Appreciation To Byron Gntz For His Service On The Districting
Commission.
CONSENT
E. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-19, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, F'lorida,
Expressing Appreciation To James McShea, Jr. For His Service On The Districting
Commission.
CONSENT
F. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-20, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, F'lorida,
Expressing Appreciation To William Poe For His Service On The Dist:ricting
Commission.
CONSENT
G. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-21, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, F'lorida,
Expressing Appreciation To Vernon Rozelle For His Service On The Districting
Commission.
CONSENT
H. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-22, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Charles Sorkin For His Service On The Districting
Commission.
CONSENT
I. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-23, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, F'lorida,
Expressing Appreciation To James Harbin For His Service On The BeautHication
Of Winter Springs Board.
CONSENT
J. City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Pass Ordinance #2001-41 As An Eme:rgency
Ordinance To Further Extend The Franchise Agreement Between The Cilty And
Florida Public Utilities Company (FPUC) From July 1, 2001, To October 1, 2001.
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"I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, LESS THE AGENDA
ITEM THAT WAS PULLED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. COMMISSIONER BLAKE
STATED, "JUST TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S ITEM 'J.'"
COMMISSIONER GENNELL ADDED - "ITEM 'J.'" DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka stated, "Those Resolutions for the people that served on the Districting
Commission - we'll have Resolutions for them so we can recognize them at a public
Meeting, for the next Meeting."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WAS
TAKEN OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED SEPARATELY,
AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
III. CONSENT
CONSENT
J. City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Pass Ordinance #2001-41 As An Emergency
Ordinance To Further Extend The Franchise Agreement Between The Cilty And
Florida Public Utilities Company (FPUC) From July 1, 2001, To October 1, 2001.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read this Emergency Ordinance by "Title."
Brief discussion ensued on the date associated with this Emergency Ordinance.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE A FINDING THAT THERE IS AN
EMERGENCY THAT EXISTS AND THAT WE PASS AN EMERGENCY
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2001-41." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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IV. INFORMATIONAL
INFORMATIONAL
A. Utility Finance Department
Requests That The City Commission Review Information Relative To The Recent
Utility Billing And Cash Receipting Computer Conversion.
Mr. Greg Bishop, Meter Services Division Manager addressed this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Cindy Gennell asked Mr. Bishop for clarification on the new format of
several months' bills. Mayor Partyka advised Mr. Bishop, "Greg, I want you to spend a
little extra time with Commissioner Gennell." Mr. Bishop stated, "Certainly."
MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, "I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE: THE
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA." "SO MOVED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BJLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
v. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Community Development Department - Code Enforcement Division
Requests The City Commission Consider Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance No. 2001-16 Dealing With Temporary Storage Structures.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion.
Mr. Charles C. Carrington, AICP, Community Development Department Director
advised the Commission that he was there to answer any questions they may have.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake said, "I think that we had some actual sub:;tantive
changes in this and probably in my discussion with the Attorney, might need to go to a
third Reading on this, before adoption." Attorney Garganese agreed with this.
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Much discussion ensued on removing these portable structures, in the event of a potential
storm, and liability concerns. Deputy Mayor McLeod stated that "I would think that we
would not want to be in the situation that we would say that we absolutely would
because, if something should happen that we didn't get to it, and there have been some
damage or a problem, then I think we have a real liability. I just wanted to make sure it's
clear on that."
Mayor Partyka suggested getting Department level approval rather than requInng
approval from the City Manager or the City Commission. Deputy Mayor McLeod agreed
that the Building Official could make such decisions, and that "the Commission is the
one that will give the extensions basically on the short window between the two (2) to
three (3) week window; ifthere are some circumstances there, that would be dom: by the
Manager, and I could see the - Building Official- really being able to do that."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ORDINANCE 2001-16 TO A THIRD READING
FOR ADOPTION, FOR THE FIRST MEETING OF JULY." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"Point of Order" by Commissioner Blake.
"MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (ON SUSPENDING THE RULES)
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
MAYOR PARTYKA: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Brief discussion followed on this being re-advertised.
Deputy Mayor McLeod asked Manager McLemore, "Is thing something that you feel
really has to come to you, or should it just come to the Building Official?" Manager
McLemore responded, "It can go to the Building Official or to me, it doesn't make any
difference, but what we'll need to do is we'll lay out some criteria on which we'll make
the judgement, and the thing about putting it with the Manager - the Manager can always
assign it to another Department Head, unless you specifically want me to do it, just leave
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it like it is and I will assign it to the Building Official who will take an application and
he'll spend two (2) seconds with me and we'll make a decision." Manager McLemore
added that in fact, "We'll work that out, unless there is a problem, he doesn't evt:ll have
to consult me."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. City Manager And City Attorney
Request The City Commission Considers Removing June 11, 2001, Public Hearing
Agenda Item C, Which Deals With Proposed Legislation That Would Rt~gulate
Open Alcoholic Beverage Containers, From The Table For Final Disposition.
Introductory discussion.
"I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ORDINANCE 2001-38 :FROM
THE TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO READ ORDINANCE 2:001-38
BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECOND:ED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
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Discussion ensued on Commissioner Gennell's concerns with this Ordinance and the vote
that was just taken. Commissioner Gennell stated, "That was why I had my light on a
couple of minutes ago. I would have preferred that after the Motion to take it off the
table, that we had some discussion period on it, before it went into the first r.eading,
because that forced me to vote 'No' in order to get the discussion going, do you s{:e what
I am saying."
Commissioner Blake stated, "What I might suggest is, if the Commissioner might
consider reconsidering her vote, giving us the opportunity to discuss it, I would second
her Motion to read the Ordinance in its entirety, after discussion if she feels that the
discussion was not in such a fashion that amply pointed out all of the issues that she has."
COMMISSIONER GENNELL STATED, "ALL RIGHT, WE CAN RE-DO THIS.
I THINK I HAVE SUFFICIENTLY GOT EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. I WILL
RECONSIDER MY VOTE. I'LL VOTE 'AYE.'"
VOTE: (BASED ON COMMISSIONER GENNELL'S LAST COMMENTS)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Commissioner Gennell questioned the wording".. . And the morals." Discussion ensued
on the Ordinance.
Police Chief Daniel J. Kerr addressed the Commission about this Ordinance.
Commissioner Miller stated, regarding "Commissioner Gennell' s comment about
'morals' - I think we out to consider striking that." Commissioner Blake added!, "I do
also agree with the question on the use of the term 'morals. '" Commissioner Blake then
said, "I would support striking - two (2) places in here where it was utilized - but if there
are more then I would also agree."
Commissioner Blake said that "The issue of the highway definition of what's public,
what's private. I believe there are actually legal definitions for those places that are
'public places' though they may be 'private property' and that's what - I think we're -
trying to get to." Commissioner Blake further said, "Perhaps, we could re-work the
language here to be clearly pointed towards those areas and not towards somebody's
front yard or something of that nature."
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Discussion ensued on definitions, special events, and permits.
Commissioner Gennell further commented that, "On page seven (7), number one ill,
second to the last line, these are exceptions also and - it's a phrase that's in number one
ill and it's not in number two ill and I'm suggesting that if this Ordinance were to go
through, then you would want to carry this last phrase from number one ill and repeat it
in number two ill and that has to do with the exception being about refrigerators in
mobile homes, etceteras, etceteras; about in the possession or readily accessible to the
driver." Discussion. Attorney Garganese stated, "We could simply add that language,
provided that no open container containing any alcoholic beverages in the possession or
readily accessible to the driver to - subsection ill, right at the end."
Commissioner Miller added, regarding the City authorizing drinking at City of Winter
Springs functions, "It does allow for the general public to have their own little parties
down there with the - prior permission of the City of Winter Springs. I thin1< that's
appropriate because that way it is being controlled and the law enforcement - if there is
no permit, then they do have the ability to go in there."
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
Mr. Mark Batchelor, 200 Torcaso Court, Winter Springs, Florida: felt that this
Ordinance would prevent someone from walking in their community with a glass a wine,
and said that he was opposed to a lot of the language in this Ordinance.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2001-38, AS
AMENDED, WHICH MEANS WE STRIKE THE LANGUAGE IN THE T'WO (2)
SPOTS WHERE IT SAYS 'MORALS,' I BELIEVE THAT IT THE ONLY
ACTUAL TEXT CHANGE THAT WE MADE; AND THE SECOND THING IS,
THAT ON THE PERMITS THAT WE INSTRUCT THE CITY OF WlNTER
SPRINGS ATTORNEY TO BRING US BACK LANGUAGE THAT 'WOULD
INCLUDE THE CITY COMMISSION - THE IDEA BEING - THAT THE
DECISION OF WHO GIVES A PERMIT, OR UNDER WHAT GUIDELINES
GETS A PERMIT, IS ACTUALLY A POLICY DECISION OF THE
COMMISSION, THAT THE MANAGER WOULD THEN CARRY OUT. -
EXACTLY, THE LANGUAGE ON NUMBER TWO (2) EXCLUSION THAT
ALSO, IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE REACH OF THE DRIVER, OR READILY
ACCESSIBLE TO THE DRIVER, I BELIEVE WAS THE LANGUAGE. WITH
THOSE MODIFICATIONS, TO BRING IT BACK TO A SECOND READING
FOR CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL ADOPTION." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
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Deputy Mayor McLeod inquired, "Where did this Ordinance come from? Who brought
this forward?" Chief Kerr stated, "The Police Department requested that an Ordinance be
written to coincide with the county Ordinance and the other Ordinances of the cities
around us that have a similar Ordinance." Discussion ensued on the potential
enforcement of this Ordinance.
Mayor Partyka agreed with Deputy Mayor McLeod and Commissioner Gennell, and said,
"I agree with your intent of what you're trying to do, but I think what we need to do is
clean this up a little bit to make the actual words agree to what you want to do."
Commissioner Miller stated, "I agree incidentally with - what everyone else here has
said, but I do not concur in one aspect of it, and that is that we are going to deal with this
problem sooner or later, as the Chief of Police pointed out."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Attorney Garganese asked, "Would the City of Winter Springs Commission would like
me to rework this Ordinance at this time and bring it back to you for further consideration
or just let it die for the time being." Commissioner Blake commented, "I was going to
ask that the Commission direct the Attorney to go back and revisit this issue."
Commissioner Blake further said, "I would like the Attorney to go back and take a look
at some of these areas, specifically concentrating on the discussion that we had this
evening, the motor vehicle law I think is a key area and issues of disturbances in certain
public places where - disturbances that exist if this is the element that our law
enforcement need in order to take control of the situation. - There may be some other
communities around us that have tackled some of these issues already."
Mayor Partyka stated, "I guess what Commissioner Blake is saying, go back and see if
we can come up with something that's kind of, makes a little bit more practical sense and
satisfies Chief Kerr and some of the issues that we may have." Mayor Partyka asked if
anyone agreed with these comments.
Deputy Mayor McLeod stated, "I don't have a problem going back, re-Iooking at it,
doing what it really, what the real need of intent would be, from the Police Depar1ment."
Mayor Partyka asked, "Are you agreeing that we ought to look at it further?" Deputy
Mayor McLeod responded, "I think you would look at it, but look at it from the
practicality that - you're trying to design to help under certain circumstances and spell
them out, if that's what you're after, so we know what it is."
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Commissioner Gennell said that her preference was that "It came to us not in the form of
an Ordinance, initially, but bring it back - the key points for discussion and see if it's
something the Commission finds acceptable, before we get an Ordinance."
Commissioner Miller stated, "Fine with me."
Mayor Partyka stated, "Mr. Garganese, City Manager - come up - with something that
makes some sense." Attorney Garganese said, "I'll get with the Police Chief and the City
Manager to discuss this."
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 2nd Reading Of
Ordinance 2001-40 For A Small Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (SS-CP A-
03-2001) For W/S Town Center Auto That Would Change The Future Land Use
Map Designation Of A 1.36 Acre Property From A Seminole County Designation Of
Office To The City Of Winter Springs' New Town Center Land Use Designation.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mr. Carrington introduced the City's new Comprehensive Planning Coordinator, Mr.
Earnest McDonald. Mr. McDonald briefly addressed the Commission.
Mr. Carrington then introduced this Agenda Item.
Mr. Ron Wilson, the agent for Mr. Joseph M Miranda: addressed the Commission.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. City Manager
Requests That The City Commission Consider Implementation Of A Discretionary
Communication Services Tax.
Attorney Garganese introduced Attorney JeffBuak from his office who was assisting him
by reviewing the "Recent legislative enactment's from the Florida Legislature regarding
the Communication Service Tax Simplification Law."
"MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2001-42 by "Title" only. Attorney Garganese added
that there was a deadline of July 16th and that we should be able to meet this deadhne.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Attorney Jeff Buak, Brown, Ward, Salzman & Weiss, P.A.: addressed the Commission on
the Communication Service Tax Simplification Law."
Commissioner Blake stated, "I have a concern that if we do in fact have a windfall, what
is our policy? What is this Board's policy in terms of any windfalls that we reeeive."
Discussion. Commissioner Blake then said, "If there is a shortfall in revenue, we're
certainly going to be hearing about it because we are going to have to act, we're going to
have to do something about it. If there is a windfall of revenue coming, are we going to
do something about it?"
Mr. Buak responded, "I agree with what Commissioner Blake is saying, I think it's still a
good idea to go ahead and enact the rate ordinance as it's been provided to you. You can
always make the policy decision at the time of windfall to roll back the rates to whatever
rate the Commission feels is the best case for the city. If you don't - adopt the rates at
this time, you may lose that ability, should you wish to take a more liberal interpretation
which I'm providing this evening." Commissioner Blake felt that "We absolutely have to
take action tonight. My question is, should we have a provision in the Ordinance that we
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adopt tonight that states, 'not withstanding any provisions that may be enacted into law,'
that may give us an adoption to avoid the windfall recovery." Much discussion followed.
Commissioner Blake added, "I've been through the numbers on a couple of occasions
and I don't think our numbers are good numbers. I think there is a windfall that's going
to occur and I think it's substantial and I think it's my duty to make sure that everybody
understands that if it occurs as I think it will it's going to be a substantial tax in::rease."
Commissioner Blake added, "On the record, what are we going to do about it?"
Mayor Partyka again opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
This "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Further discussion ensued. Commissioner Blake was asked to provide a layman's
summary of the Communication Service Tax Simplification Law, which he did.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE OR MOVE IT ON TO
SECOND READING BASED ON THAT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONERGENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
THE RESOLUTION." MOTION BY
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Gennell thanked Commissioner Blake for his assistance.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE FOLLOWING
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
G. City Manager
Requests The City Commission Approve Amendment #1 To The Binding
Development Agreement Between CHC Development And The City Of Winter
Springs For The Development Of Avery Park.
Manager McLemore commented on the City's Arbor Ordinance, and said that "What we
tried to do was to go back and look at it and create a context where there was an incentive
for a developer to improve the quality of the environment."
Discussion.
Mr. Carl Cahill, CHC Development: addressed the Commission and stated, "There are
about 1400 hundred trees on the property. Most of those will have to come down
because they are on the building sites or on the roadway. We will try to save as many
trees as we can around the perimeter, and even on the lots."
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion ensued on members of the Commissions' concern with the wetlands,
replacements trees and values.
Ms. Sandy Bierly: advised the Commission that they could develop the wetlands in
question.
With further discussion on acreages, trees, and credits, Commissioner Gennell said, "I
don't see the way this is written, of having no limit per acre. I think there should be a
limit on it - we will give you credit up to 'x' number of trees, per acre. Beyond that, we
won't."
Mr. Carl Cahill, CHC Development: further addressed the trees that would be kept.
Discussion.
"I'LL MOVE TO EXTEND THE MEETING - ONE HOUR..." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER Bl.AKE.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager McLemore then commented on the Arbor Ordinance and stated, "What it does
to development in the way it's written today. And what we try to do was give some
credit for that land that's being given to make it at least reasonable - for a develop,er to go
in and get something out of that land. Now if you don't agree with it, just cut that portion
out of this Ordinance - just cut it out and go with the other two (2) provisions."
Further discussion on tree replacement credits.
Tape 3/Side B
"I WOULD MOVE TO HAVE THIS ITEM 'G,' THE BINDING DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT APPROVED WITH ONE (1) CHANGE, AND THAT'S ON PAGE
TWO (2) AT THE BOTTOM, SECTION 4. (a) WHERE IT SAYS THE
VOLUNTARY ONE (1) TREE REPLACEMENT CREDIT FOR EVERY TI~N (10)
TREES LOCATED WITHIN AN INVOLUNTARILY DEDICATED
CONSERVATION AREA, AND I WOULD MAKE THAT TO A MAXIMUM OF
ONE HUNDRED (100) TREES PER ACRE, WITH THAT CHANGE." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BLAKE SPOKE ON THE GIVING SOMEONE
THE RIGHT TO CUT TREES IF OTHER WILL NOT BE CUT DOWN; AND
MANAGER McLEMORE SPOKE FOR THE RECORD THAT "THE
AGREEMENT DOES NOT READ THAT."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ASKED ATTORNEY GARGANESE, "IF ANOTHER
DEVELOPER CAME TO US ON A DIFFERENT PARCEL AND THEY
WANTED THE SAME TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT, WOULD WE BE OBLIGED
TO GIVE IT TO THEM? WOULD WE BE OBLIGATED TO GIVE IT TO
THEM? COULD WE SAY 'NO' AND THEN AVOID THE LAWSUIT?"
ATTORNEY GARGANESE RESPONDED, "IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO
THIS BY AGREEMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE OBLIGATED.
YOU WOULD NOT BE OBLIGATED TO DO IT WITH THE NEXT
DEVELOPER. IT WOULD ALL DEPEND ON A CASE BY CASE SITUATION,
DEPENDING ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING OPPOSED."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE FURTHER ADVISED THE COMMISSION THAT
"YOU WANT TO BE AS UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE SO YOU
DON'T OPEN YOURSELF UP TO ARBITRARY CLAIMS AND
DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS." ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN A][)DED,
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"THIS PARTICULAR CREDIT SHEET, YOU MAY WANT TO ESTABLISH
THIS UNIFORM CREDIT SHEET AND USE IT IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS."
FURTHERMORE, ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED THAT "IF THIS IS
- AN APPROACH YOU WANT TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE FOR OTHER
DEVELOPMENTS, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO CONSIDER
AMENDING YOUR - ARBOR ORDINANCE."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Mr. Cahill asked if "We could reconsider, and delete the ten (10) to one (1) replacement;
and put a limit of one hundred (100) tree per acre maximum and resubmit." Mayor
Partyka stated, "Limit of one hundred (100), we've got that." Mr. Cahill added, "And
delete the ten (10) to one (1) replacement credit for - the ten (10) tree replacement credits
for every one (I) tree located up on voluntarily dedicated conservation area - that seems
to be Commissioner Blake's - main concern."
Mr. Cahill then said, "If we delete 4. (b), which is the ten (10) tree replacement credits
for every one (I) tree located up on voluntary dedicated conservation, delete that. And
the (a) - put in maximum of one hundred (100) trees per acre. That would be satisfactory
with us."
Deputy Mayor McLeod asked, "Would you consider removing (a) completely?'" Mr.
Cahill then said, "So if we deleted (a) and (b)?" Deputy Mayor McLeod said, "I believe
it's (a) and (b), and on our pages, it also becomes, I believe Ron, is (b) on page two (2),
which is part of the very first part of - our 'G;' page two (2) considerations." Manager
McLemore stated, "That language can be deleted." Deputy Mayor McLeod added, "That
would also be deleted and then we drop down to Section 4. (a), delete; Section 4. (b),
delete. "
Mayor Partyka summarized the discussions by saying, "Carl, your submitting right now,
delete 4. (a). Is that correct?" Mr. Cahill responded, "Yes." Mayor Partyka then said,
"Delete 4. (b)?" Mr. Cahill responded, "Yes."
"I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 'G' WITH THE (b) ON PAGE TWO
(2) ON CONSIDERATIONS BEING DELETED AND - UNDER SECTION 4.,
PAGE TWO (2) - SECTION 4. IS DELETE (a) AND DELETE ON PAGE THREE,
SECTION 4. (b)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GENNELL
ASKED, "WHAT ABOUT 'F' ON PAGE TWO (2)." DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD
ADDED, "'F' IS ALSO INCLUDED ON PAGE TWO (2). ANYTHING - ANY
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CONFLICTING LANGUAGE REGARDING THE CONSERVATION AREAS,
VOLUNTARY OR INVOLUNTARY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka said to Manager McLemore, "If the Arbor Ordinance is not good from
your standpoint, we should have, in the Commission's possession, some kind of
statement to say why it's no good." Mayor Partyka further stated, "And that needs to be
handled at some point in the future, as to why." Manager McLemore explained that he
felt that, "The Ordinance was a punitive Ordinance and it does not create incentives."
Mayor Partyka then said, "I think that something needs to come back - if that's true."
REGULAR
A. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission, At The Request Of Builder John Saud~uni, On
Behalf Of The Homeowners, Howard And Libby Baity, Consider Removing May
14,2001, Agenda Item "E" From The Table For Final Disposition.
"MOTION TO TAKE FROM THE TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Carrington introduced this request for a Variance.
Ms. Libby Baity, 627 Sailfish Road, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the Commission
and said that they had not experienced any flooding.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Dennis Franklin, Building Official.
"Point of Order" by Commissioner Blake who stated, "The flood level is 34 feet.
FEMA's number is 35 feet. That's what is required. "
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Mr. John Laudani: explained to those in attendance that this was the first house that he
had built and the problem was due to an honest mistake on his part.
Much discussion.
Tape 4/Side A
Commissioner Blake discussed with Attorney Garganese his preferences for three (3)
things to happen. Commissioner Blake summarized his suggestions for a possible
Motion and stated, "Three (3) things happen. The Builder goes to Code Enforcement for
whatever penalties there are there. The homeowner has to file and record a document
stating that the foundation or the level, or whatever it is, the base flood elevation is below
code and that holds Winter Springs harmless against any actions caused by that. When
those two items are done or completely completed, then they come back before us and we
will attempt to utilize the Variance to issue a C.O."
Further discussion ensued regarding possible options, and Deputy Mayor McLeod stated,
"Let our Building Official put this information in the file, in the Building Department, put
it on record with the individual's file." Deputy Mayor McLeod added, "I would follow
the recommendations of the Code Enforcement to put this thing on file at the County."
Discussion ensued on these options.
"I MOVE THAT ITEM 'A' ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, THE REQUEST FOR
HOWARD AND LIBBY BAITY, THAT THE CITY MANAGER TAKE THAT
BACK AND REVIEW IT, APPLYING THE FLOOD CRITERIA, BECAUSE I
KNOW WHAT ANTHONY IS TALKING ABOUT, AND AT THE SAME TIME,
I'LL REFER THE BUILDER - BACK TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
MANAGER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL.
COMMISSIONER GENNELL WAS ASKED TO REPEAT HER MOTION AND
STATED, "I MOVE THAT THIS PROPERTY VIOLATION BE REVIEWED IN
VIEW OF THE FLOOD - DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE - CHAPTER
EIGHT (8) OF THE EXISTING CODE, A VARIANCE UNDER THAT
ORDINANCE. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THAT THE CODE VIOLATION
PER SE BE REFERRED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ASKED FOR A CLARIFICATION AND STATED,
"WOULD THE FLOOD DAMAGE ORDINANCE COME BACK TO US, WITH A
RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ATTORNEY, OR WOULD IT BE SETTLED
BY THE CITY MANAGER?" COMMISSIONER GENNELL STATEn, "IT
WOULD COME TO US." ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "I JUST '~ANT
TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR. I THINK CHAPTER EIGHT (8) WOULD
AFFORD THE PROPERTY OWNER MORE RELIEF THAN - YOUR
REGULAR VARIANCE PROCEDURES." COMMISSIONER GENNELL
STATED, "I AGREE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE
REQUIREMENT PRIOR TO COMING BACK FOR A FINAL VARIANCE
DISPOSITION OF FILING A RECORDED DOCUMENT WITH THE CLERK
OF THE COURT OF SEMINOLE COUNTY WITH THE INFORMATION AS
DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY THAT THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION IS
BELOW THE EIGHTEEN INCHES (18") ABOVE FLOOD LEVEL -- THE
HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD LEVEL REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF Wl[NTER
SPRINGS BUT IS IN EXCESS OF THE TWELVE INCHES (12") REQUIRED BY
FEMA." MOTION BY COMMISISONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY
MAYOR McLEOD. DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD ADD.ED, "I
WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SEE WITH THAT AS THEY COME BACK, A
LETTER FROM THE OWNER AND THE BUILDER THAT THEY WILL HOLD
THE CITY HOLD HARMLESS WITH ANY FUTURE FLOODINGS ON THAT
PIECE OF PROPERTY." COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "IT WAS
ACTUALLY PART OF MY LANGUAGE ORIGINALLY, SO I GUESS I WOULD
INCORPORATE THAT IN THERE - IN THE AMENDMENT."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION)
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager McLemore advised the Commission that the "hardship" issue could be brought
to the Commission at the next Meeting.
"I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND FOR ONE (1) HOUR."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
C. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Review The Trotwood Batting Cagt~s And
Consider Approaches For The Use Of The Concrete Slab And Poles That Wt~re Not
Used For Batting Cages.
Mr. Pula addressed the Commission on this matter. Manager McLemore suggested that
option #4 was the best choice. Discussion.
Commissioner Gennell stated that regarding "Mr. Arnold who came before us, I would
appreciate it if the City Manager, or Chuck, somebody could get with him and s,ee - he
claims that this design was not what they were shown and that the balls are falling into he
and his neighbors yard constantly, and I'm concerned that the plan was or wasn't
changed. I don't know, but I would like to know. And I would like the man to have
some level of comfort with it, okay. Have somebody get back to him."
"I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE APPROACH #1, CUT OF:F THE
POLES, AND USE THEM ELSEWHERE; PUBLIC WORKS TO DEMOLISH
THE CONCRETE SLAB AND HAUL IT OFF." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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B. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission A Request From The Highlands Homeowner's
Association For A Variance To Section 6-191 Which Limits Inter!iection
Obstructions.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'B' ON THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR
THE VARIANCE FOR THE HIGHLANDS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THEY ARE JUST REPLACING A PREEXISTING WOODEN FENCE AND
THEY ARE JUST WAITING FOR THIS TO DO IT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MIll-LER.
DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "I SAW A LIST OF
FINDINGS HERE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE A LIST OF FINDINGS IN TERl\'IS OF
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE VARIANCE TO BE GRANTED."
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"MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT
MEETING GIVING STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS FOUND
THAT IT MET THE SIX (6) REQUIREMENTS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, "THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. THE
TABLE IS OUT OF ORDER AT THIS POINT." FURTHER DISCUSSION BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL ON THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE.
COMMISSIONER GENNELL TOLD COMMISSIONER BLAKE THAT, "I
AGREE WITH YOU, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NICER TO HAVE THINGS
DONE POINT BY POINT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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E. City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Designate One Member From The
Commission To Represent The City Of Winter Springs At The Annual Business
Session Of The Florida League Of Cities Annual Conference; And Determine If
There Are Any Issues That The City Would Like To Submit In The Form Of A
Resolution For Consideration By The Resolutions Committee.
Mayor Partyka stated, "On point A of that, I believe that is clear. If I should attend and I
plan to attend, I should be the representative."
Regarding the other part of this Agenda Item, Manager McLemore stated, "I personally
think we should ask the legislature to go back and deal with this JP A issue that we
currently have with the City of Oviedo, and the County which would require all parties
would have to be party to it, that are affected by it. I think that should be a legislative
issue."
Discussion.
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With further discussion, the Commission agreed that Manager McLemore and Attorney
Garganese would bring back a Resolution at the next City Commission Meeting.
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F. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That The City Commission Decide On The Appropriate Appointm(mts Or
Reappointments For Terms Of Office Which Will Be Expiring In July 2001 -
Specifically Regarding Several Members Of The Beautification Of Winter Springs
Board; The Board Of Adjustment; The Code Enforcement Board; The Planning
And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency; The Tuscawilla Lightinl~ And
Beautification District Advisory Committee; And Additionally, The Terms Of Office
Which Will Be Expiring In August 2001 - Specifically Regarding Several Mlembers
Of The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
Commissioner Miller said that for the Beautification of Winter Springs Board, he would
hold that in abeyance.
"FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ELIZABETH RANDALL, I WUULD
LIKE TO REAPPOINT HER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO APJPOINT
GREGORY ROERO." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GENNELL ASKED, "THAT'S IN PLACE OF
WHO, ON CODE ENFORCEMENT?" COMMISSIONER BLAKE SAID, ";CODE
ENFORCEMENT IS DIFFERENT, WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL SEATS
THERE." COMMISSIONER GENNELL STATED, "NO, WE DON'T, AND I
THINK MAYBE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT LATER BY ORDINANCE OR
SOMETHING."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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"ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD - I WOULD LIKE TO
REAPPOINT TOM BROWN." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"THE TUSCA WILLA LIGHTING AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT
ADVISORY COMMITTEE - I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT MOTI
KHEMLANI." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT - GREG SMITH - I WOULD LIKE TO
REAPPOINT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT OF GREG THOMPSON TO
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McLEOD. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GENNELL
INQUIRED, "WHO ARE YOU DOING THAT IN PLACE OF?" DEPUTY
MAYOR McLEOD STATED, "PAUL FINNEGAN."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"FOR OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE - PAUL KREBS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER Bll.,AKE.
SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Blake stated, "He replaces Al Murro who's retired."
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H. City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve The Final Version Of The Charter
Amendments To Be Presented To The Public And To Instruct The City Attorney To
Prepare An Ordinance Calling For The Referendum.
Discussion ensued on how the public would be informed about this. Attorney Garganese
stated, "It will be one (I) question - and what the question would be generally around is a
revision of the entire Winter Springs Charter, as set forth in the Ordinance and you will
have the red line and strike out version which you have which would be presented to the
voters. You will also have a fact sheet which will explain each individual proposed
amendment, so the citizens are fully informed as to what they are voting on."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese stated, "You should have the Ordinance at the polling
booth so in the event - somebody needs to review it one more time, or if someone didn't
see it, you can publish it - in your newsletter to fully inform the voters of the proposed
amendments. You can send out a separate mailer to citizens." Commissioner Gennell
asked, "Can we put it on our website?" Attorney Garganese replied, "Absolutely."
Commissioner Gennell inquired about what happens if there is no City Manager. Brief
discussion.
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Commissioner Blake pointed out that "On page four (4), Section 4.05. Mayor., this is the
veto language. We just missed one here. It states, the affirmative vote of four (4) -- and it
should be 'By an affirmative vote of not less than four (4)' - we changed it elsewhere, but
we must have missed this one."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE - APPROVE FINAL AMENDMENTS,
INCLUDING THE CHANGES MADE THIS EVENING TO THE CHARTI~R TO
BE OFFERED TO THE PUBLIC AND APPROVE THE FORM WHICH - BE
OFFERED WHICH WILL BE THE ADOPTION OF AN ENTIRE CHARTJB:R AS
AMENDED, CHARTER REVISION, AND THREE, AUTHORIZE THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN APPROPRIATE ORDINANCE CALLING FOR
THE REFERENDUM." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VII. REPORTS
REPORTS
A. City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No report.
REPORTS
B. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore advised the Commission that the City's Consultant on the Charter
Review process, Mr. Jim Burgess had told him that "This was the best Charter process he
had been involved with."
Manager McLemore then spoke to the Commission about the "School Board Item on the
retention pond, the Interlocal Agreement - for the Town Center, and said that this would
be a Consent Item on their Agenda; plus, it has the Superintendents' recommendation to
approve it."
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Next, Manager McLemore asked the Commission if they would be willing to meet with
Shane Doran in a Special Meeting, "To embody those changes that we talked about."
With discussion, the Commission agreed to hold a Special Meeting on Monday, July 2,
2001 at 6:30 p.m.
Regarding the Parker property Manager McLemore mentioned a recent meeting with the
Parker Brothers who countered with a three million dollars ($3,000,000.00) proposal.
Discussion. Mayor Partyka asked Manager McLemore for his recommendation.
Manager McLemore stated, "I would go to $2.7 max." Manager McLemore added, "That
would include due diligence on all of that stuff."
Manager McLemore then stated to the Commission, "You could make this contingent
upon a referendum, to ago above $2.5, if you want to." Discussion.
"I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OFFER THEM $2.5 WITH THE
TAXABLE CREDITS, NOT TO EXCEED - $3.2 AND ANYTHING ABOVl8: $2.5,
WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE TO A REFERENDUM." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR McLEOD. REGARDING THE TAX LETTER, DEPUTY MAYOR
McLEOD ADDED, "WE WILL JUST LEAVE THAT OPEN." MANAGER
McLEMORE THEN INQUIRED FURTHER ABOUT THE "ANYTHING
ABOVE" WORDING. COMMISSIONER GENNELL ADDED, "HAVE THEM
RESPOND WITHIN SEVEN (7) DAYS." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GENNELL. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GENNELL ADDED, "THAT
MOTION HAS A SEVEN (7) DAY RESPONSE TIME IN IT?" DEPUTY MAYOR
McLEOD RESPONDED, "YES."
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE MEETING, ANOTHER FIVE
(5) MINUTES." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Manager McLemore then advised the Commission that he will be bringing the budget to
the Commission at the July 9th Regular Meeting, and wanted to know if the Commission
wanted to set budget dates now, or at the July 9th Regular Meeting. The consensus of the
Commission was to discuss this at the July 9th Regular Meeting.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
"MOTION TO ADJOURN." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MIJLLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka adjourned the Meeting at 1 :09 a.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE NOT
DISCUSSED DURING THIS MEETING. .:. .:.
REPORTS
C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
REPORTS
D. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
REPORTS
E. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
REPORTS
F. Commission Seat Four - Cindy Gennell
REPORTS
G. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
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REPORTS
H. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
REPORTS
I. Office Of The Mayor - Paul P. Partyka
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NOTE: These minutes were approved at the July 9, 2001 Regular City Commission Meeting.