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HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2004 06 28 City Commission Regular Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JUNE 28, 2004 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, June 28, 2004 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). ROLL CALL: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, present Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner David W. McLeod, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:32 p.m. A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. PUBLIC INPUT Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: gave a status report on the City's Paw Park. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:32 p.m. Mr. Medford McCoy, 114 Brookshire Court, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested a different type of pool inspection; remarked on the paint color of the bottom of the new office building next to City Hall; and asked about the status of electronic utility bill payments. AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 100. Office Of The City Manager Presentation Of Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs Employees - Mr. Greg Bishop And Officer Keith Whitmore Who Are Being Honored For Their Brave And Courageous Military Service As They Served The Men, Women, And Children Of Our Country And The World In The Name Of Freedom. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 2 OF 30 With the assistance of the City Commission, Mayor Bush and City Manager Ronald W. McLemore recognized Mr. Greg Bishop, Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department and Officer Keith Whitmore, Police Department for their recent military servIce. 101. Office Of The City Manager Presentation Of Employee Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs Employees. Also with the assistance of the City Commission, Mayor Bush and Manager McLemore presented Employee Recognition Awards to the following City of Winter Springs employees: 5 Years Of Service: Mr. Michael Mingea, Community Development Department; Mr. Mark Padgett, Police Department; Ms. Toni Poe, Police Department; and Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department. 10 Years Of Service: Mr. Shane Massari, Fire Department. 15 Years Of Service: Mr. James Flannigan, Police Department; Mr. Steve Molnar, Fire Department; Mr. Carlos Morales, Utility Department; and Ms. Janice Palladino, Office of the City Manager. 20 Years Of Service: Ms. Patricia Schraff, Fire Department; and Mr. James Wilkins. Police Department. 30 Years Of Service: Ms. Mary Wilson, Human Resources Division. Mayor Bush called a Recess at approximately 6:48 p.m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 3 OF 30 Mayor Bush reconvened the Meeting at 6:54 p.m. and recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. who was in the audience. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 200. Office Of The City Clerk Approval Of The June 14, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. No discussion. CONSENT 201. Information Services Department Requests The Commission Approve Staff Recommendation Of GovDeals For Disposal Of Surplus Assets And Authorize City Manager To Enter Into A Contract With GovDeals On Behalf Of The City. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 202. Office Of The City Clerk Requests The City Commission Agree That Completed Qualifying Documents And All Related Financial Reports CaD Be Placed On The City's Website At The Conclusion Of The Qualifying Period (For The November 2, 2004 Municipal Election) Which Will Be In Compliance With The State Of Florida's Public Records Law And Which Will Save The City Clerk Much Time And Resources From The Many Requests Normally Received For Copies Of The Aforementioned Documents. Brief discussion CONSENT 203. Utility Department Requesting Authorization To Execute Amendment 82 With CPH Engineers, Inc. For The Design Of Electrical System Improvements To Water Treatment Plant Number 3. Brief discussion CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 4 OF 30 CONSENT 204. Finance Department Requesting That The City Commission Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $82,500.00 From The Water And Sewer Utility Fund Reserve, $82,500.00 From The General Fund Reserve And $1,993.00 From The 2000 Info System Debt Service Fund Reserve. These Funds, Totaling $166,993.00 Will Be Used To Pay Off The Information Systems Portion Of The Year 2000 Bank Of America Loan - Series A In The Fiscal Year 2003/2004 Budget. Discussion. CONSENT 205. Fire Department Requesting That The City Commission Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $278,050.00 From The General Fund Reserves, To Be Used Along With The Current Budgeted Funds, To Pay Off The Fire Truck Loan In The Fiscal Year 2003/2004 Budget. No discussion. CONSENT 206. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off Of The Seminole County Contract For The Design Of The Hayes Road And Moss Road Eastbound Deceleration Lanes. This Agenda Item was not discussed. "MOTION TO APPROVE - CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 5 OF 30 .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 300. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. This Agenda Item was not discussed. INFORMATIONAL 301. Utility/Public Works Department Responding To The City Commission Questions Relative To The Fiberglass Tanks On The Property At Hayes Road And State Road 434. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 302. Utility/Public Works Department Updating The City Commission On Projected Costs For The Utility/Public Works Compound. Brief discussion. INFORMATIONAL 303. Information Services Department Wishes To Update The Commission On An Issue Relative To Problems Reaching To The City Operator From The Utility Director's Voice Mail. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 304. Information Services Department Wishes To Update The Commission On The Issue Of Electronic Billing Services. Brief discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 6 OF 30 INFORMATIONAL 305. Public Works Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement Projects. Brief discussion. INFORMATIONAL 306. Utility Department Providing The City Commission With A Copy Of The Consumer Confidence Report That Will Be Sent To All Residents. Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "The Report - before this is issued, Attachment. Number 2, needs to be proofread." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I will give it to Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk]. Discussion ensued on the references to Fluoride. Commissioner Michael S. Blake stated, "There seems to be, each year - a continual difference in the overall quality between the East production and the West production, in terms of contaminants, minerals, whatever it happens to be on the East Plant from what we have on the West Plant. Are there steps that we can take or do we have anything in the plans to do something to clean the water up a little bit more on the East side?" Discussion ensued with Mr. Doug Taylor, Superintendent, Utility Department. Commissioner Blake added, "The analysis from the water - the East Plant and the water from the West Plant - typically has a higher quality in terms of lack of contaminants, minerals, or solubles or whatever those things are called that are in the water - it always has been. My question - is what, if any plans, do we have or have we put anything in place here to start working on the quality of the water on the East side, because I continually get complaints abut the mineral deposits, the spots, the pipes that continually break because of the deposits that are in them." Mr. Taylor stated, "We just got a report done by CPH, Inc, and maybe we ought to see about getting that." Manager McLemore added, "We will come back to the City Commission with that." Commissioner Blake added, "We need to start focusing I think on this issue." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake said, "I think that is something we need to work on and come back." INFORMATIONAL 307. Office Of The City Clerk Requests The City Commission Review This Agenda Item For Information Regarding Some Of The Details And Dates Pertaining To The November 2, 2004 Municipal Election. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 7 OF 30 "MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 400. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Consider The Applicant's Request For The List Of Permitted Uses Within The "C-1 Neighborhood Commercial" Zoning District To Be Amended To Include "ATV's (All-Terrain Vehicles) And Other Small Gasoline Engineer Or Electric Motor Recreational Type Vehicles With A Dry Weight Of Less Than Six Hundred (600) Pounds, Sales". Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced this Agenda Item. Mr. K.c. Aggarwal, Aggarwal Pension Trust Fund, 1055 Edmiston Place, Longwood, Florida: addressed the City Commission and noted that the Owner did not want to address the City Commission unless the request was approved. Discussion. Tape I/Side B Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Joanne Krebs, 1002 Taproot Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the Chairperson of Planning and Zoning Board/ Local Planning Agency, Ms. Krebs noted some of the concerns that Members of the Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency had regarding this issue; and also mentioned that as the Owner did not attend their Meeting, they could not get their questions answered. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 8 OF 30 Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Discussion. Attorney Garganese said for the record that this is a "Legislative decision that the Commission has to make." "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST OF ITEM '400' - FOR THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT FIT INTO THE PERMITTED USES FOR THE 'C-l'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 401. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading Of Ordinance 2004-28, Establishing A New Zoning District Entitled "C-3 Highway 17- 92 Commercial" And Revising The "C-1 Neighborhood Commercial", "C-2 General Commercial", And "1-1 Light Industrial" Zoning Districts. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-28 by "Title" only and stated, "It is the Second Reading, but we are going to have a Third Reading." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "There were a few things that have been changed since we brought it to you for the First Reading last time, and the following are the things that were changed. I noticed that under the 'Highway Commercial', we had neglected to include 'Convenience markets and stores and self-service gasoline sales'; that it's - very much a 'Highway Commercial' use, so we did add that in to the 'C-3' as a Permitted Use. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 9 OF 30 The other thing that was changed are the setbacks - for side yards in both the 'Highway Commercial C-3' and in the '1-1 Light Industrial'. What you had before you last time showed a side yard setback of fifteen feet (15'), and thinking about that further, Staff feels that that was excessive for an industrial or a highway commercial site, so we changed that to a five foot (5') setback except for corner lots which would be a fifteen foot (15') side yard setback." Commissioner Blake said, "On setbacks Eloise [Sahlstrom], does that mean that you couldn't have one warehouse building out to the lot line and have another warehouse building right next door? There would have to be space between them?" Ms. Sahlstrom responded, "The setback would require it to be five feet (5 ') from the property line..." Commissioner Blake added, "... So it would be ten feet (10')..." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "... So there would be a ten foot (10') space or more between two (2) buildings. Yes." Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller spoke next about item "(Qll - Radio and TV broadcasting studios, excluding towers" and stated, "I know you have 'Excluding towers' and stated, "You have said no towers, but they have radio dishes all over the place and antennae and other things. I thought maybe that should be expanded to include satellite dishes, antennae." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "So you want some expanded language on that?" Deputy Mayor Miller answered, "I would feel a little bit better more comfortable I think ifit said antennae, and dishes." Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "You could just refer to any - transmitting devices, external to the building." Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said, "I think what you are talking about are the big wide - dishes that maybe are ten foot (10') in diameter, but I certainly would not want to limit anybody." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "We'll look into it." Mayor Bush added, "I agree - I think he has drawn up a good point by the way - so that needs some further work." Mayor Bush stated, "I guess Staff just needs to look at it and maybe working with the Attorney, see if we are covered in what Commissioner Miller has brought up." "MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO A THIRD READING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "COMMISSIONER BLAKE SECONDED IT." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 10 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 402. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1st [First] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-16, A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation Of An 8.56 Acre Parcel, Located At 1181 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only." "SO MOYED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION TO READ BY TITLE BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER." DISCUSSION. YOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-16 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "MOYE TO A SECOND READING - ORDINANCE 2004-16." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION. YOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE I I OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 403. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1 st [First] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-17, Which Rezones 8.56 Acres (More Or Less) Located At 1181 Orange Avenue From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-17 by "Title" only and stated, "This Ordinance has a conditional 'Effective Date' - it is contingent upon Ordinance 2004-16, the Small Scale FLU [Future Land Use] Map Amendment becoming effective." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO SECOND READING - [ORDINANCE] 2004-17." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 12 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 404. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1 st [First] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-19, A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation Of An 1.7 Acre Parcel, Located At 1184 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only." "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-19 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO SECOND READING - ORDINANCE 2004-19." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE J3 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 405. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1 st [First] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-20, Which Rezones Map Designation Of An 1.7 Acre Parcel, Located At 1184 Orange Avenue From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only." "SO MOVED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONL Y BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-20 by "Title" only and noted that "This Ordinance has a conditional 'Effective Date' - it will be effective upon Ordinance 2004- 19 becoming effective." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MOVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2004-20." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER TO MOVE TO SECOND READING." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 14 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 406. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1st [First] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-22, A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation Of Two Parcels, Located At Approximately 1268 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only." "SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2004-22 AND MOVE IT TO A SECOND READING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 15 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 407. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For 1 st [Fir~t] Reading Of Ordinance 2004-23, Which Rezones Two Parcels, Located At Approximately 1268 Orange Avenue From "R-1" (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only." "SO MOVED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-23 by "Title" only and remarked that "This Ordinance has a conditional 'Effective Date' - it becomes effective upon Ordinance 2004-22 becoming effective." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "MOTION TO MOVE ORDINANCE 2004-23 TO A SECOND READING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 16 OF 30 PUBLIC HEARINGS 408. Community Development Department Presents To The City Commission A Request For A Conditional Use To Allow Multiple Family Dwellings In The C-l (Neighborhood Commercial) Zoning District, Pursuant To Section 20-234. Of The Zoning Chapter Of The City Code Of Ordinances. Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented his opening remarks. Commissioner Blake said "Point of Order" - and spoke of the role of CPH Engineers, Inc. in relation to this Agenda Item. Tape 2/Side A Discussion. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Javier E. Omana, Vice President of Land Planning Operations, CPH Engineers, Inc., 1117 East Robinson Street, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission and stated that regarding "A potential conflict of interest - is something that has been studied by our firm by the Board of Directors of our firm and I believe has been adequately handled. We wouldn't have taken on this, Commission - had that particular issue not been clarified. As it stands right now, CPH Engineers, Inc. will not - be part of any review on behalf of the City on this particular job, whatsoever." Commissioner McGinnis inquired, "What is the price range of these townhouses?" Mr. Omana stated, "My understanding from Morrison Homes is the townhouses will range from one hundred and fifty (150) to two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000.00) - a unit, not a building." Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "You have very short driveways it looks like." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller added, "It appears from your - depiction of what the places are going to look like, that some of them are going to be two (2) car garages, and some are going to be one (1) car garages?" Mr. Oman a responded, "Correct." Deputy Mayor Miller pointed out that "I am not happy with the number of units that are crammed in here. If it is a twenty foot (20') driveway, we are going to have this debate again." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller added, "There is no parking for visitors and I think your units are - too close to the road." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 17 OF 30 Manager McLemore stated, "I think the comment is fair to put you on notice - I think you are on notice that this is an issue." Mr. Omana said, "Very much so." Mr. Romano added, "These issues that you have intimated were clearly pronounced by Staff and we have taken notes; we know the Code very well, we need to accommodate those things to Staffs satisfaction and also to your satisfaction, before the Site Plan is approved." Discussion. Attorney Garganese suggested to the City Commission, "If you are going to approve Multi-Family, you should set a density that you are comfortable with; that you think is compatible and in harmony with the area." Mr. Omana stated, "The ninety-nine (99) units may not be reachable because we still have to go through the Water Management District permitting and the Army Corps of Engineers." Commissioner David W. McLeod said, "Looking at this elevation, it appears that - [State Road] 434, you really are not showing us an elevation of what it may look like from [State Road] 434. You really are showing us an interior elevation." Commissioner McLeod suggested, "I think the limitations that perhaps this Commission should put on this is that the maximum would be the 6.6 units per acre, based on what you presented to us this evening, as your layout and with regards to the Wetlands." Discussion ensued on elevations, wetlands, and Gateway standards. Commissioner McGinnis said, "I am comfortable with the density as it is right now." Mr. Omana stated, "The entire Board and Staff will have, when we come through - and the Site Plan approval process will have architectural elevations, full landscape plans - for your review." Deputy Mayor Miller noted, "I am not comfortable with the number of units." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would be willing to approve this Conditional Use for this type of development if it were one-third less than that." Commissioner McLeod said, "I think the acreage - 6.6 units per acre that you have requested is reasonable." Discussion. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY 2004 - WHICH IS JULY THE 26TH, 2004." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 18 OF 30 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush stated, "I would make the recommendation to Staff that Applicants should know how the Commission feels about this and 'not let the people come in and have to go through this - I think you should do a better job of informing the Applicants." Commissioner McLeod added, "I don't think the Commission can be pre-read on the . " Issues. PUBLIC HEARINGS 409. Not Used. PUBLIC HEARINGS 410. Not Used. PUBLIC HEARINGS 411. Office Of The City Attorney And Office Of The City Manager Request That The City Commission Approve On First Reading Ordinance 2004-31 Which Shall Amend Chapter 6 Of The City Code, Relating To Minimum Setback Requirements For Principal Buildings Located On Property Zoned Planned Unit Developments. Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at 8:56 p.m. "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at 8:57 p.m. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 19 OF 30 Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-31 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion o/the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o/the Agenda Item. Attorney Garganese said, "If you go to page 2 of 3 of the Ordinance, I was speaking with Mr. Baker this evening and he has conducted an analysis of all of the Deed Restrictions that have come through on PUD's [Planned Unit Developments]; so he is recommending that front yard minimum setback requirements be fifteen feet (15'), not twenty-five feet (25'), and also the corner yards - also be fifteen feet (15') minimum setbacks not twenty- five (25). In addition, the City of Winter Springs - Zero lot line developments which have Deed Restrictions that are set up accordingly as Zero lot lines. Tape 2/Side B Attorney Garganese continued, "We would also propose putting in here that Zero lot line developments approved by the City Commission shall have minimum setbacks as set forth in the initial approved documents." Mayor Bush pointed out that "On page 2 of 3, for front yards and corner yards it would be fifteen (15), instead of twenty-five feet (25')." Attorney Garganese stated, "Right." Discussion. Attorney Garganese said, "We would have a legislative exception for Zero lot lines." Commissioner Blake said, "Are you suggesting add some additional language in here?" Attorney Garganese responded, "Yes - probably go right at the end that the minimum setback requirements for Zero lot lines will be those that are approved by the Commission during the PUD [Planned Unit Development] approval process, whether they are in Deed Restrictions or not." Commissioner Blake then inquired, "How would that be recorded?" Attorney Garganese said, "It is going to be in the Code." Commissioner Blake then asked, "Would it be required to be on the Plat?" With discussion, Commissioner Blake said, "If we are going to fix it, let's fix it all the way." Attorney Garganese said to Mr. Baker, "Is there any way to establish a separate section here - what the minimum would be on a Zero lot line Development?" Mr. Baker responded, "I can do further research on that." Attorney Garganese added, "Then we can just put it right into the Code like we have here, for regular lots. That is what we should do." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 20 OF 30 Discussion. Commissioner McLeod stated, "If a Commission prior to this Commission sat up here with a Developer's Agreement, then this Commission in my opinion should honor that Developer's Agreement." Attorney Garganese said, "We could add another exception." Furthermore, Attorney Garganese added, "In the event there is a Development Agreement - the Development Agreement will apply in a PUD [Planned Unit Development] Zoning District, and then we need to go and add some language for Zero lot lines." Deputy Mayor Miller then asked, "Are we going to leave this then at twenty-five (25), ten (10) and five (5), because I think we ought to." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I do too." Commissioner McLeod added, "I don't disagree with the new. I just think a Developer's Agreement is a Developer's Agreement, and that should be honored." Commissioner Blake said, "Send it back to Staff and bring it back for another Reading in two (2) weeks, with taking into consideration the changes that we have proposed." Commissioner Blake added, "It would be another First Reading." REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 500. Not Used. REGULAR 501. Not Used. REGULAR 502. Community Development Department Presents To The City Commission, The Final Engineering/Site Plan, A Proposed Development Agreement, And Aesthetic Review Of Signage For The Village Market Place Expansion. Mr. Baker presented this Agenda Item and mentioned the signage dimensions related to the Dollar General store. Commissioner McGinnis inquired, "How tall is the sign that is there now - that has the 'For Rent'." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 21 OF 30 Mr. K.C Aggarwal, Aggarwal Pension Trust Fund, 1055 Edmiston Place, Longwood, Florida: briefly spoke on this issue and stated, "That sign - we will be taking it down. It is between eighteen (18) and twenty feet (20'). "I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM '502'..." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, ".. .SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS..." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS RESPONDED, "...YES." SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH SAID, "COMMISSIONER McGINNIS HAS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE - ITEM "502" SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS STATED." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 503. Community Development Department Recommends Approval Of The Proposed Architectural Renderings For Lot 8 At The Tuskawilla Office Park (TOP), Subject To The Dover Kohl And Partners Comments. Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item and stated, "Dover, Kohl & Partners - request once again the water table be provided about a foot above grade on this building and they are also pointing out that the shutters don't match the building and either should match or should be removed; and we as Staff have pointed out in the Staff Report that inoperable shutters are not allowed so they have to be operable." "MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '503' INCORPORATING THE COMMENTS FROM VICTOR DOVER." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE TO APPROVE - ITEM '503' WITH THE ITEMS LISTED IN ATTACHMENT 'C'." DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 22 OF 30 VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 504. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission With Information On Property Appraisals For Discussion. (This Agenda Item Will Be On The July 12,2004 City Commission Meeting Agenda.) REGULAR 505. Not Used. REGULAR 506. Not Used. REGULAR 507. Office Of The City Clerk Requests That Members Of The City Commission Make Appointments/ Reappointments Related To The Terms Of Office Which Will Be Expiring In July 2004 - Specifically Regarding Members Of The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board; The Board Of Adjustment; The Code Enforcement Board; The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency; And The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District Advisory Committee; Along With The Terms Of Office Which Will Be Expiring In August 2004 - Specifically Regarding Members Of The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee. DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO - RENOMINATE GREG ROERO - CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 23 OF 30 DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER STATED, "FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION [OF WINTER SPRINGS] BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO - NOMINATE LORRY ROERO." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER NOMINATED, "MOTI KHEMLANI" TO THE TUSCA WILLA LIGHTING AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "BRIAN OLIVER" - TO BE APPOINTED TO THE OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "TOM WATERS" - TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 24 OF 30 VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD [/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY] - JOANNE KREBS." MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER GILMORE STATED, "ETHEL BEECHER FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION OF WINTER SPRINGS BOARD." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE KATHRYN FAIRCHILD FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 25 OF 30 COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I NOMINATE BILL POE" TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "DAWNA FERGUSON" - TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF WINTER SPRINGS BOARD. MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED THAT REGARDING THE TUSCAWILLA LIGHTING AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, "LINDA TILLIS HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THAT - UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS TIME SHE REALLY WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE REAPPOINTED; HOWEVER, HER HUSBAND, BRANTLEY TILLIS WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT POSITION." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD - I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT GREGORY THOMPSON." MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 26 OF 30 VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush said, "Is there a recommendation for the third Seat on the Code Enforcement Board?" Mayor Bush summarized, "We will put that one on the next Meeting as well." ADD-ON REGULAR 508. Public Works Department Requests The City Commission Authorize The City Manager To Approve The Mediation Settlement Agreement With CWB Contracting, Inc. For The Central Winds Park Expansion Contract A, Clearing And Grubbing. Manager McLemore presented his introductory comments to the City Commission. With discussion, Commissioner Blake said to Manager McLemore, "What is our total cost, not including acquisition of the property, to get this place up and running?" Manager McLemore responded, "I would have to bring that to you at another Meeting." Commissioner Blake then said, "I would appreciate that and specifically, I would also like to see what we were told it was going to cost up front too, and what kind of changes there has been." Manager McLemore stated, "Sure." MOTION TO "MOVE IT." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER TO APPROVE." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 27 OF 30 REPORTS REPORTS 600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese stated, "The 5th District Court of Appeal upheld the Trial Court's decision in the Rawlins Case - the Dog Barking Case." REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore spoke of a Memorandum related to "Three (3) potential dates to meet with the County Commission on ADA." Commissioner McGinnis said, "August 10th is good." Deputy Mayor Miller said in regards to the suggested August 10th date, "It is good for me." Commissioner Blake added, "Not at 4:00 o'clock, it is not good for me." With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized, "Why don't we invite them here for a 6:30 [p.m.] Meeting on August 10th" [2004]. Mayor Bush said to the City Commission, "Is that okay with the Commission?" No objections were noted. Mayor Bush then said to Manager McLemore, "Okay with you?" Manager McLemore responded, "Works for me." Tape 3/Side A Manager McLemore mentioned recent discussions on a possible Library. Next, Manager McLemore stated, "On the proposed joint City/County Athletic Center, the Booster Club has decided to move ahead with a Public Opinion Survey to determine if there is a level of support out there before they waste a lot of time and our time, trying to develop this concept. That probably will happen in the next thirty (30) to forty-five (45) days." Commissioner Blake inquired, "Will it have cost considerations in there?" Manager McLemore responded, "Yes, definitely." Manager McLemore mentioned that regarding the July lih [2004] Regular City Commission Meeting - "It probably is going to be a fairly extensive Meeting and I just wondered if you might want to start a little early, on that date?" With discussion on a starting time, Commissioner Blake said, "As late as possible." Manager McLemore suggested that "5 :00 [p.m.] would work well." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I like five o'clock." Commissioner McLeod stated, "I am available." Commissioner Gilmore also stated, "I am available." Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "".I could make it at 5:00 [p.m.]. Mayor Bush then said, "Five o'clock." Furthermore - Mayor Bush stated, "By the way, Deputy Mayor [Miller] - you will be running that Meeting." Regarding refreshments, Mayor Bush stated, "I am sure that Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] will take care of everything." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 28 OF 30 Lastly, Manager McLemore stated, "I have been in discussions with the Orlando Philharmonic about initiating a 'Ball in the Park' Concert as part of our overall trying to improve our events in the community." Regarding financing such an event, Manager McLemore said, "One of the first things we need to know is whether you would allow the sale of tickets or not." Commissioner Blake suggested that "The first one, absolutely - I don't think we should sell tickets. I think that really is counterproductive to what we are trying to do." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree." Commissioner Blake added, "I think we should be able to find four (4) or five (5) main sponsors out there." Mayor Bush asked, "Is the Commission in agreement with 'No charge'?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Absolutely." Manager McLemore then said, "We will definitely go out and try to find sponsors to do it as much as we can." Commissioner McLeod added, "I do actually agree that the first event should be a 'No charge' event." In summary, Mayor Bush said, "Is the consensus then - 'No charge'?" Commissioner Blake said, "Correct." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "Aye." REPORTS 602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces spoke of the July 12, 2004 Regular Meeting and said she understood the request for refreshments. Secondly, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted that Invitations for the upcoming Advisory Board and Committee Appreciation Dinner (scheduled for Saturday, August 14, 2004) would be going out next week. Thirdly, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces said to the City Commission, "For the remaining Appointments, do you want a rather in-depth Agenda Item like this one, or very basic?" Commissioner Blake said, "Just a quick reminder." Commissioner McLeod remarked, "Basic." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Very basic." Also in regards to the upcoming Advisory Board and Committee Appreciation Dinner, Mayor Bush stated, "We should make sure that all of the Commission is there." REPORTS 603. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis Commissioner McGinnis spoke of "Teachers of the year" and said she had suggested that "We acknowledge all of our Teachers - once a year." City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted that letters had been sent out regarding this, along with recognizing other accomplishments. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 29 OF 30 The next inquiry of Commissioner McGinnis involved the issue of how new developments affect the impact of area Schools. With discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller suggested that, "It may be in the Commissioner's interest to send in a letter to the Commission asking that we take a look at that issue." REPORTS 604. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod No Report. REPORTS 605. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush noted that "I will not be at the next Meeting", but he would be in attendance telephonically. Mayor Bush added, "I will give you the phone number Andrea [Lorenzo- Luaces], that you can reach me on." Secondly, Mayor Bush mentioned that "This afternoon, the Manager and I met with the Seminole County Schools Grant Writer, concerning the project of getting the Trail through the Wetlands." Mayor Bush added, "They gave us this outline which I will give to Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] and she can make copies for the rest of you." Thirdly, Mayor Bush noted that he had spoken with another Mayor regarding their previous campaign to get their own Post Office. Mayor Bush added, "Even though the Post Office doesn't answer to the Congress anymore, they still listen to them - so if that is something we want to pursue, it is going to have to be organizing a letter writing campaign and getting a little information about what is not provided here, versus what is provided to Casselberry." REPORTS 606. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller No Report. REPORTS 607. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake Commissioner Blake mentioned the Parker property and asked, "The Parker Property park area - when is that going to be open; when is it going to available; and are we on schedule?" Discussion CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 28, 2004 PAGE 30 OF 30 Next, Commissioner Blake spoke of the signage related to the Winter Springs location of the Driver's License Office and inquired, "Don't they have to comply to our Sign Code?" Discussion. Commissioner Blake then spoke of the status of the Starmer building. Brief discussion. REPORTS 608. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore No Report. .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS GIVEN NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. REPORTS REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore stated, "The Batting Championship and Trophy will come back to City Hall this year." ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at 1 0:06 p.m. SPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: ORENZO-LUACES, CMC ERK f_'~ . ~~j{:~~};~ d .{&~//n? . ~ - .ffi~r:~~tt: ~~ler =:,. .1LI..AV-8.TI:..:..... 1)epu'~y ;Mayor .. . IVm'-r~~ 1 ..... /~ __ /... - ,.... .- ~ ' ..~' -":,,/ _."- r~ . NOTE: Th~s.e.Mihu.le~ were approved at the July 12, 2004 Regular City Commission Meeting. . , \ -...