HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2008 09 08 City Commission Regular MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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SEPTEMBER 8, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 8, 2008 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance followed a moment of silence.
Brief discussion followed on Hurricane activity and City Manager Ronald W. McLemore
noted, "We will continue to monitor it."
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART I)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-40, Which Establishes The Tentative
Operating Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-2009 For The City Of Winter Springs
At 3.0338 Mills Which Is 16.91% Less Than The Rolled-Back Rate Of 3.6512 Mills
And The Tentative Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-2009 For
The City Of Winter Springs At 0.1100 Mills.
Ms, Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department opened this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
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Manager McLemore commented on the next City Newsletter and noted that he had
copies of information related to the Budget.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
on this issue.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Dan Brahler, 205 Torcaso Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on property
values, the economy, the housing market, and higher property taxes, and suggested the
City Commission consider this.
Ms. Kathleen Postlewait, 111 St. John's Landing Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not
address the City Commission but from the audience stated, "I second that."
Mr. Nikola Kovacevic, 717 South Edgemon Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush stated, "Is opposed to the Fire Assessment."
Mr. Zaheer Salarbuy, 300 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on the shopping center he owns on State Road 434 and said there was no incentive to
improve his property with higher property taxes.
Mr. Jay Alpert, 11 SI Audubon Way, Maitland, Florida: as a partner in the Belle Avenue
Industrial Park, Mr. Albert noted his concern with losing businesses due to higher
Millage rates.
Mr. Phil Karwowsky, 202 Torcaso Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about his issue
with higher property taxes and asked the City Commission to help with it.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Further discussion.
"MOTION THAT WE SET THE MILEAGE AT 3.0338 -TENTATIVE MILEAGE
WHICH WE WILL RE-VISIT TWO (2) WEEKS FROM TONIGHT." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MOTION CARRIED.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Greco stated, "You all also need to set the Tentative Voted Debt Service Millage at
.110 mills." Ms. Greco added, "And to adopt the Resolution (2008-40) as written?"
Commissioner Robert S. Miller stated, "Yes - Motion." Mayor Bush asked
Commissioner McGinnis, "Is that the way you understood it?" Commissioner Sally
McGinnis stated, "Correct." Mayor Bush added, "And those who Voted?" No objections
were noted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-41, Establishing The Tentative Budget For
Fiscal Year 2008-2009.
Ms. Greco addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item and remarked, "What
still needs to be determined is to cost out a Compression Study which you all spoke about
and the other issue had to do with some parking fees for City events. So, those are the
only two (2) items -that we don't have a number for tonight."
Mayor Bush said to Ms. Greco, "Tuesday, the Commission had a Workshop, and they put
things back into the Budget -read the things that were put back into the Budget." Ms.
Greco stated, "The Add Backs to the Budget were - a Merit Pay program..." Mayor
Bush noted, "...Which is really the pay raises for the City employees." Ms. Greco
continued, "The second item was the Cody Study range adjustments because they haven't
been looked at in two (2) years."
Next, Ms. Greco explained, "We added some community events back to the Budget; one
being the Holiday Parade; the Christmas Tree Lighting; the Christmas Concert was not
put in -the Springs Concert; and the Fourth of July/50th year Anniversary Event. In
addition to keeping the two (2) Fire Department positions and finding them a place within
the organization."
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Continuing, Ms. Greco remarked, "The next item was due to the forty-six (46) plus
foreclosed homes in the area -the Commission had approved extra money for lot
clearing."
Lastly, Ms. Greco noted, "Add two (2) new Police Officers and equipment to the Budget
due to crime activity and gang activity and lastly, the Fall Event for October was added."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input"portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. David Rath, 1700 Cinnamon Circle, Casselberry, Florida: noted that he did not
think the City should taking care of foreclosed property; and there should be no need for
extra Police Officers, based on a Money Magazine article about Winter Springs.
Discussion.
Mr. Dan Brahler, 205 Torcaso Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on Budget
items and suggested that Homeowner Associations could assist with foreclosed
properties.
Ms. Sherri Moore, 925 Dyson Drives, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
suggested Add Back expenses, and recommended the City consider other options
including corporate sponsorships.
Tape 1/Side B
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE `501'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ASKED, "WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO REVIEW THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, CORRECT?" MANAGER
McLEMORE SAID, "ABSOLUTELY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6: 06 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush at 6:17 p. m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM
"601" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AGAIN, AS
NOTED ON PAGES 8-10 OF THESE MINUTES. THE INFORMATIONAL AND
CONSENT AGENDAS FOLLOW. • •
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider Costs To Be Incurred By The City Related
To The 2008 Winter Springs Festival Of The Arts And Decide The Level Of Service
To Be Provided By The City And A Funding Source For The Corresponding
Expenditures.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush asked, "Do you want us to delay this?" Commissioner Brown stated, "That
is fine with me." Commissioner Krebs stated, "Fine." No objections were voiced.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Proiects.
Mr. Stevenson stated, "Pursuant to a discussion that we had -normally we don't put those
items on `100', that are the subject of Building Permits only, but we will be trying to
modify the format to give you a little more information about those retrofits, similar to
the one we had over at 125 Excelsior Parkway, so that we keep you more up to speed in a
bullet format at the end of this about; not only about the new projects but those retrofit
and those redevelopment projects."
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Commissioner Brown suggested, "I would be willing to see a bullet point with the text
supporting it available for review if necessary -even if it is on line. I think this report
could probably be cut down to a couple of pages if we just did maybe a very brief
paragraph - a status update or one that says no status change. I don't know that we need
to read all of this every week."
Commissioner Krebs referenced one of the items and stated, "If you just want to make
that and say, `Per 11/13/07 Agenda', we will know there has been no changes since then
and we can go back and look, if we want to. I would like to see something on new items
or something that has changed."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore mentioned that new changes were shown in bold print.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I agree with Commissioner (Donald A.) Gilmore."
Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I would leave it to the discretion of staff to
abbreviate some of the older items that we keep on for a long time."
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Stevenson, "Why don't you try to come up with a way to do this
and let the Commission take a look at it?" Mr. Stevenson responded, "We will do that.
We'll probably track changes in the projects and have the history on line for you. It'll
probably take us a couple of meetings to get it squared away, but we'll do it."
INFORMATIONAL
101. Office Of The City Clerk
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Candidates That Have Qualified
For The November 4, 2008 City Of Winter Springs Municipal Election.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have aMotion - on Informational [Agenda]?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Authorize Executing A Mutual Use And Benefit
Agreement With Ashbritt Environmental For Storm Debris Removal By
Piggybacking Off Their Current Contract With The City Of Casselberry.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Utility/Public Works Department
Requests That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008-44
Recognizing The Retirement Of Utility Department Employee Ralph Fuccillo.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
202. Information Services Department
Requests Commission Authorization To Pay The Munis Annual Maintenance And
Support Contract In The Amount Of $52,732.50 And To Authorize The City
Manager's Signature On The Annual Support And License Agreement As Well As
The Annual Operating System And Database Administration Support (OSDBA)
Agreement.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
No discussion.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The August 25, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
205. Parks And Recreation Department And Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Award The Contract For Construction Of the
Trotwood Park Expansion To BDG Construction Services, LLC.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOVE TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KREBS NOTED, "I DON'T NEED, ESPECIALLY THINGS
FOR INFORMATIONAL AND CONSENT - I JUST READ IT ON LINE."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I DO." COMMISSIONER KREBS
ADDED, "ANDREA (LORENZO-LUACES), IF YOU CAN NOT MAKE ME A
COPY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT." MAYOR BUSH THEN SAID, "ANDREA
(LORENZO-LUACES), WHY DON'T YOU POLL THE COMMISSIONERS AT A
LATER TIME AND ASK HOW THEY WANT THIS; SO, WE CAN SAVE
PAPER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED AGAIN, AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON PAGE 5 OF THESE
MINUTES. • •
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider Costs To Be Incurred By The City Related
To The 2008 Winter Springs Festival Of The Arts And Decide The Level Of Service
To Be Provided By The City And A Funding Source For The Corresponding
Expenditures.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke to the City
Commission on the upcoming Festival of the Arts.
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Mr. Lacy then explained, "None of our events are actually going to be on Tuskawilla
[Road] so, it would be possible to leave Tuskawilla [Road] open; we'd just have to pay
close attention to the pedestrian traffic that might be crossing Tuskawilla [Road] to get
over to the stage and the music events. And, we're very sensitive about the grass and the
quality of the shrubbery that is going to be down the center of Blumberg Boulevard, and
we've gone to great pains to try to find an aesthetically pleasing way to address that
concern."
Continuing, Mr. Lacey explained, "So, we've allocated quite a bit of manpower to patrol
that area. I think we're going to place the tents in a way that discourages people from
going back in to the nice shrubbery and we're going to have people there from Police
Officers to Police Explorers to other volunteers, taking special care to make sure that the
pedestrian traffic is first of all, diverted away from that."
Discussion followed on parking, volunteers, Police assistance, and deposits.
Commissioner Brown asked Manager McLemore, "Have you met with Event Planner -
who wanted to work with the City, whose information I have sent you?" Manager
McLemore said, "I have not heard back from that person yet." Commissioner Brown
added, "She may be here tonight. I think she is going to introduce herself during Public
Input. This might be great opportunity to partner with her and see what she might be able
to bring to the table over the next month."
With further comments, Manager McLemore noted, "I'll be happy to talk with her if you
will just give me that discretion and this is not that issue of finding that person. I can
have a scope of services for her or anyone else, just for this event, but it will be different
from the RFP (Request For Proposal) we're going to put out."
Discussion.
Mr. Lacey stated, "We are asking for a Waiver of the fees that are on this that are six
thousand four hundred and seventy dollars ($6,470.00) and the refundable deposit and per
your suggestion Mayor, any additional funds that come in through Brighthouse, we
would apply that to this dollar first. If it came in excess of that, we would take it, but if
we got another six thousand dollars, we would apply that to this and compensate the City
for that."
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Paul Partyka, 292 Solaris Wharf Street, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this Event.
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Commissioner McGinnis commented, "As we sit down and look at our Final Budget, we
may decide to in fact take something else out..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "... We
might..." Commissioner McGinnis continued, "...In place of this."
Continuing, Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Now we are going to talk about another
Event, so I would suggest to the Commission that when we sit down, we might substitute
this for another Event. But, I agree, it is the visibility, the name recognition, your
numbers sound great, I don't know -first year, it doesn't matter. It is a goal, and maybe
next year it will be even better. So, that is the way I am looking at this. I do support it."
Commissioner Krebs, "I agree with some of what you say Commissioner, but if we are
lucky, and I think we will be, this Event may cost us absolutely nothing."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore noted, "I can support this, but would ask the Police Chief to go
back, since his is thirty-six percent (36%) of this Budget, to go back and see if there are
alternative ways of providing what you want."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS WILL BE APPLIED TO
THE CITY'S BUDGET OF SIXTY FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY
DOLLARS ($6,470.00) FIRST, AND THAT IF WE ARE UNSUCCESSFUL IN
RAISING THAT AMOUNT, THAT WE WILL LOOK THROUGH THE BUDGET
PROCESS AND POST-BUDGET PROCESS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING
EVENT OR EXPENDITURE TO COVER THE LOSS THAT WE SHOULD
INCUR ON THIS, IF WE SHOULD IN FACT INCUR ONE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMSSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-34 Expressing Appreciation To Sherri P.
Moore For Her Service As A Member Of The City Of Winter Springs Code
Enforcement Board.
Mayor Bush and the City Commission presented Resolution 2008-34 to Ms. Sherri P.
Moore.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The
Public Works Department Director
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-44 Recognizing Ralph Fuccillo For His 24
Years Of Dedicated Service As An Employee Of the City Of Winter Springs; And
Expressing Our Appreciation On Behalf Of The Citizens Of The City Of Winter
Springs.
Mayor Bush and the City Commission presented Resolution 2008-34 to Mr. Ralph
Fuccillo in honor of his service to the City of Winter Springs.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
302. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation To Lukas Nursery In Honor Of Their "Butterfly
Encounter."
Mayor Bush presented a Proclamation to Lukas Nursery on their "Butterfly Encounter."
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:16 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush at 7:29 p. m.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese commented on a Complaint that was filed regarding Jesup's Reserve.
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Mr. Garganese reported on the Hayes Road right turn lane and noted that "Mr. Kamil
Gowni has now delivered the Deed and the partial Satisfaction of Mortgage, so we'll be
recording the right turn lane by the end of this week."
Mayor Bush asked, "Now that we are going to get the right-of--way on the right turn lane
on [State Road] 434 and Hayes, how long before we start doing something about it?"
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Department responded, "It's in
the Budget. When we get some Impact fees whenever Randy (Stevenson) starts these
units next door, when they pay their Fees, we should be good to go. So, we're budgeted
in the next year."
Mayor Bush asked that if the Commission was interested, they could use General Fund
monies to start the project, and then refund the General Fund when the Impact Fees came
in. Mr. Lockcuff agreed and said, "You could."
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore suggested the City Commission set another Budget Workshop
before September 22"d, 2008. Commissioner Krebs noted, "We do have one scheduled
next week - it is `Goals'. Could we substitute it for that and maybe have `Goals' another
time?"
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "Let's try the 15~' (September 2008) - if you
need more time, we can always have another Meeting." Discussion.
Discussion followed on another date for a Workshop and the date of September 17th was
suggested. Commissioner Brown suggested, "If we do it on the 17t1i, can we do it at 6:00
[p.m.]?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "That is fine." Commissioner McGinnis remarked,
"Could we do the 15~' (September 2008) at 6:00 [p.m.]?"
On the Workshop set for September 15a`, 2008, Mayor Bush asked, "Is 6:00 [p.m.]
okay?" No objections were noted and Mayor Bush clarified, "Let's do it at six o'clock
on the 15`I` (of September), and the 17~' (of September 2008) as a tentative Meeting at six
o'clock as well." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Okay."
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REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
Mayor Bush stated, "Nice job Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk) on the Brunch. Very
nice, I thought it worked out really well. I know that you and your people did a lot of
work."
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Gilmore remarked, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), and her staff,
congratulations and thanks. Wonderful job!"
After watching all the flooding and -the twenty-two inches (22"), plus or minus of water
we have had, I think our City people that have been setting the standards for drainage
along with the state and that deserve a lot of credit, because we didn't have an awful lot
of damage. There were a couple of streets, but the potential that we could have had was
catastrophic, if it weren't for the design that our people have put into these buildings and
facilities. So, my congratulations to everybody.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore added, "Zynka (Perez, Public Works Department) really got out
there and took care of those almost - as soon as the calls came in, so thanks a lot!"
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Bravo to Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) and her staff - it was
a really nice Event Saturday. I can say the price was right this year. I hope we can
replicate that again. Thank you Commissioner Krebs for the flowers."
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Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis added, "It accomplished everything we wanted to
and everybody had a good time."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs, "And again, Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces), great job to you and your
staff."
Next, Oak Hollow Park and Oak Forest Lake were addressed by Commissioner Krebs.
Commissioner Krebs then asked Manager McLemore, "As you know, there was an issue
with a water bill a few weeks ago, and there was an issue that occurred out here. What
have we done to remedy it?" Commissioner Krebs added, "I think some customer
service training is warranted here." Manager McLemore said "I agree. We've had some
discussions about that."
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
• Collection Of email Addresses
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, we've changed one thing on our Public Input form,
we are now asking for email addresses. One of the things that I would like the
Commission to consider, and that is that we start doing a better job of communicating
with our citizens using the email."
Discussion followed on saving money and offering citizens the City newsletter either
emailed or mailed.
Attorney Garganese said, "The City can create an email list and disseminate information.
The only thing that I would suggest off the top of my head is that there is a way that
somebody to opt out of it -and that can be automatic."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested that people are given an option of paper or electronic
and "I think we also need to make it clear to people when we ask for their email, that we
will not ever sell -that list." Mayor Bush noted it would be a public record."
Discussion.
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Attorney Garganese commented that, "Social Security is unique and the law allows
municipalities to verify information from the person requesting the information, so we
have used that - if you compile email addresses, it's going to be a Public Record and
somebody could request it and use it."
Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioners, let's ask the Manager to research this; come back
with some kind of a recommendation?"
~~SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then recommended the City Commission consider a "Voter Referendum on
whether or not the citizens of Winter Springs would support number one (1), an Events
Center and/or number two (2), a community swimming pool." Mayor Bush mentioned
speaking recently with a citizen who was interested in working on such an effort.
Members of the City Commission also discussed possibly sending out a Survey.
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "Let's start thinking about it."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on a
recent decision made at a Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Meeting
and the Code of Ordinances.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART II)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The First Reading
Of Ordinance 2008-17, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1072 West SR (State Road)
434 (East Of SR [State Road] 417), Equaling Approximately 7.5 Acres And Owned
By East Coast Believers Church Inc.
Mayor Bush stated, "Do we have a Motion to read by `Title' only?"
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Mon je S. Plank, P.E., Senior Vice President, Central Florida Land Design
Corporation, S00 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 110, Maitland, Florida: briefly
addressed the City Commission.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department briefly addressed the City Commission.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "MOVE FOR APPROVAL
AND MOVE TO SECOND READING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 2/Side B
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
AGENDA. • •
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Review This Report Regarding The
Reimbursement of Costs For The 2008 W.L.O.Q. Jazz Event, And Take Any Action
It Deems Appropriate.
Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner Brown commented for the Record and stated, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces),
the bottom of page 2, one of those `Brenda Brown' should be replaced with the name of
former Mayor `Paul Partyka'."
Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE FIRST PROPOSAL [`1.'],
LET THE CHAMBER PAY THE FULL AMOUNT, AND THAT THE FIFTY
PERCENT (50%) OF THE REMAINING BE PAID AND USED FOR SOME
OTHER FUTURE EVENT IN THE CITY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "THEY WOULD PAY THE ONE THOUSAND AND
FOURTEEN [DOLLARS] ($1014.00), AND THE REMAINDER -THE CITY
WOULD PAY?" MANAGER McLEMORE NOTED, "THE GUARANTORS
WOULD PAY FIFTY PERCENT (50%) OF THE BALANCE."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: ABSTAINED
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush remarked, "Commission, I don't agree with that." Commissioner McGinnis
stated, "I would like to bring the issue back up."
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"MOTION TO RECONSIDER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: ABSTAINED
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND OPTION NUMBER `2."' MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "NUMBER `2.' WHICH WOULD BE THE CHAMBER
PAYING THE ONE THOUSAND FOURTEEN [DOLLARS] ($1014.00), AND THE
CITY PICKING UP THE BALANCE."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: ABSTAINED
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-11, Which Rezones Two (2) Parcels Containing 9.04
Acres, More Or Less, Located Adjacent To The North Side Of SR (State Road) 419
On The East And West Side Of Wade Street From "C-1 Neighborhood
Commercial" To "C-2 General Commercial" Subject To Certain Use And Other
Restrictions Pursuant To Section 20-31.(e).
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance Number 2008-11 by "Title" and commented for the
Record that, "It would not authorize any other C-2 general commercial uses on the
property other that the two (2) that are listed on pages 2 and 3 of the Ordinance, generally
being outdoor storage facilities and a single warehouse building not to exceed 27,000
square feet.
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If the Commission approves this Ordinance, there is a contingent Effective Date, it would
only be effective once Mr. Phillips, the property owner, executes a `Consent To Zoning
Restrictions', which is attachment `E' in the Agenda Package."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
Commissioner Miller said, "The last proposed Zoning Map dated June 2008 that is up on
the board there -the one that was presented to us for May 2008 shows the same two (2)
pieces of property as the subject property, but the one for June shows an `x' on that
eastern section. I was wondering why the `x' is there?" Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "I guess
it's a mistake to have it there. It doesn't mean anything. I don't recall putting it there."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore inquired, "Does this at this point require the restrictions we put in
it for the types of storage or not?" Attorney Garganese answers, "It does. It includes the
two (2) Uses that were approved in the Zoning Ordinance that was adopted by the
Commission previously - 2008-10."
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Office Of The City Attorney
Second Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-16, Which Amends The City Of
Winter Springs Code Of Ordinances, To Provide That Where A Municipal Election
Results In A Tie Vote The Candidates That Receive An Equal And Highest Number
Of Votes Shall Run Again In A Runoff Municipal Election To Be Held No Later
Than 60 (Sixty) Days Following The Initial Election.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review And Approve The Tuscawilla PUD (Planned
Unit Development) Master Plan Modification.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on
this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
506. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review The Tuscawilla Greens Combined
Preliminary And Final Development Plan, And Preliminary And Final
Engineering/Site Plan For A 60 Unit Condominium Development On
Approximately 12.02 Acres, Located On The South Side Of Winter Springs
Boulevard, Adjacent To Howell Creek, And Immediately Adjacent To The
Tuscawilla Golf And Country Club.
Mr. Stevenson presented this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Next, discussion followed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
507. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Commission Approve Resolution 2008-45 For Purposes Of Collection Of
Delinquent Fire Assessments From FY (Fiscal Year) 2008 Via The Property Tax
Rolls.
Mr. Smith introduced this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
508. Finance Department And Community Development Department
Requesting That The City Commission Adopt Resolution Number 2008-46,
Expanding The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District Boundaries To Include
One New Parcel (Tax ID # 12-21-30-501-OB00-0000 -Address 1069 Winter Springs
Boulevard) And Authorizing The Submittal Of The Certificate To Non-Ad Valorem
Assessment Roll, Assessment Summary And FY (Fiscal Year) 2008-2009 Annual
Assessment Roll For Tax Year 2008 Relating To The Oak Forest Wall And
Beautification District And The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification Assessment
Area - Phases I And II To The Seminole County Tax Collector By September 15,
2008.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Greco addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
~~MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER IGtEBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
•• AGENDA NOTE: THE REMAINING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. ••
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review The Tuscawilla Greens Development
Agreement For A 60 Unit Condominium Development On Approximately 12.02
Acres, Located On The South Side Of Winter Springs Boulevard, Adjacent To
Howell Creek, And Immediately Adjacent To The Tuscawilla Golf And Country
Club.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Attorney Garganese commented on a 4`I' Amendment to the Settlement Agreement
between the City and the Tuscawilla Country Club and stated, "In my opinion, in
conjunction with the Development Agreement, several Amendments need to be made to
the Settlement Agreement so everything is consistent."
With discussion, Attorney Garganese explained, "It recognizes that the Owner will install
the six foot (6') tall decorative wrought iron or decorative fence along the boundary of
Parcel 7, along Winter Springs Boulevard and that is depicted on the Final Engineering
Plans that you have just approved; and of course they would have to comply with
Aesthetic Review and the decorative fence requirement would become effective at such
time they pull the Building Permits for this project.
Paragraph 2 acknowledges -the City will acknowledge and agree that the existing golf
course maintenance building which is currently located on parcel 7 which is the -
condominium development property will be relocated to that parcel 8 remainder property
prior to final completion of the condo project. The parcel 8 remainder property is defined
in the 3`a Amended Settlement Agreement just to refresh everybody's recollection; that's
the property that's way out back along the power easement -there are currently
maintenance buildings on that property. They would move the maintenance building that
is right next to the tennis courts to the parcel 8 remainder property.
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Paragraph 3 recognizes that a certain amount of fill is required for the condominium
property and some of that fill is going to come from the 4`" and 10~' fairways. That will
be excavated, and that soil will be brought to the condominium property site and this
requires that those excavation areas on the 4~' and 10~ fairway, once permitted bey the
City and other government agencies, will be incorporated as water features on the 4 and
10 fairways, so they're not going to just be a borrow pit. There will be water features.
And -paragraph 4 recognizes that there is an emergency ingress and egress easement
that's required, that was depicted on the plans; and it incorporates the legal description as
Exhibit `A' to the 4~` Amendment, again that was depicted on the Plans. So, I would ask
that if the Commission is ready to approve the Development Agreement, that the
Commission also approve the 4~' Amendment to Settlement Agreement in conjunction
with that."
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on this
project.
With discussion, Mayor Bush asked about the water feature and inquired, "About the
water feature along Northern Way, is that in here?" Mr. Corkery explained, "It's not in
this -it's in the revised Developer's Agreement, but it's not in the plans, because it's so
far away." Attorney Garganese said, "There will be a special Permit Application that will
be submitted for that excavation."
Commissioner Brown noted, "Mr. Miller did however point out that the people in your
brochure are depicted walking on a sidewalk."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION TO APPROVE AND TO ALSO INCLUDE
THE 4TH AMENDMENT TO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KItEBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission Consider Requested Information Regarding The
Current Performance Review For The City Clerk Due September 27, 2008.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces briefly introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Krebs said, "Fine job." Commissioner McGinnis stated "Yes."
Mayor Bush commented that the Minutes are extensive. Discussion followed with City
Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces. Mayor Bush stated, "I think the Motion should be in there."
Manager McLemore stated, "The Motion has to be in there." Mayor Bush added, "Who
Seconded it, and the Vote." Mayor Bush and Commissioner McGinnis noted that they
preferred "Abbreviated" Minutes.
Next, Deputy Mayor Gilmore spoke of listening to the audiotapes from Meetings, and
suggested that a good system be installed.
Tape 3/Side A
Further brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER BE
ASSIGNED THAT PROJECT AND TAKE A LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO DO
SOMETHING WITH IT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SO, YOUR MOTION IS FOR THE MANAGER TO
INVESTIGATE A BETTER AUDIO SYSTEM." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE
STATED, "YES." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION
FOLLOWED ON WHICH BUDGET YEAR.
`~I WILL SPECIFY THE BUDGET YEAR [20']08 -[20']09." AMENDMENT TO
THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE ADDED, "MAY BE FUNDED IN THERE - HE MAY DO THE
RESEARCH NEXT YEAR."
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
DISCUSSION FOLLOWED ON CASSETTE TAPES BECOMING OBSOLETE
AND COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK
AT THAT TOO." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE
BEEN COVERED IN THE MOTION FOR THE MANAGER TO
INVESTIGATE."
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush asked, "When does the Commission decide on Andrea's (Lorenzo-Luaces)
pay raise?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "My Anniversary date is September 27`I'."
Mayor Bush added, "Yes -the next Meeting."
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces then asked, "Do you want me to bring back the same Agenda
Item?" Mayor Bush stated, "I don't see that that is necessary - it is an Agenda Item. But
the Agenda Item will be to decide the Clerk's pay." Commissioner Miller noted,
"Correct -but the data we don't need."
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting Authorization To Proceed With Construction Of An Emergency Access
For The Winding Hollow Subdivision Between Winding Chase Boulevard And
Trotwood Boulevard.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER IGtEB5. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:47 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LaDONNA SLAYTER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
A A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CL ~ CLERK
APPROVED:
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_ OR OHN I~'. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the September 22, 2008 Regulaz City Commission Meeting.