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JANUARY 22, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 22,2007 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Bush spoke briefly on this past weekend's successful Scottish Highland Games.
Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Amsouth Bank has asked that items '204'
and '301' be pulled."
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:32 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: regarding the Cell
Tower issue, Mayor Bush stated, "Does not wish to speak."
Mr. Billy Nichols, 1281 Nature's Way, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the Cell Tower
issue and his preference was that if it was placed on "Personal property or City property -
I will vote for it."
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Mr. Mervin Warner, 673 Keuka Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned he was
personally in favor of a Cell Tower in Tuscawilla; and spoke of a vote by the Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association.
Mayor Bush recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on leadership; and suggested that the Public Input portion of Public Hearings be held
after there has been any applicable discussion by Staff and the City Commission.
Ms. Phyllis Yoder, 914 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: clarified the "Public
Input" form she filled out and stated, "I am much in favor of a Cell Tower in the
Tuscawilla area."
Mr. Jack Yoder, 914 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that the
reception in Tuscawilla is very poor and that a Cell Tower is needed.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association, Mr. Lacey spoke on the Cell Tower issue and
presented information related to the Ballot and results of a Vote taken by the Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association membership which carried a majority Vote.
Ms. Sherri P. Moore, 925 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: referenced the June
2i\ 2005 Minutes related to safety concerns and Traffic Calming; and recent events that
she was not pleased with, in regards to Dyson Drive and Traffic Calming.
Mr. Lee Jenson, 134 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the Howell
Creek Reserve Homeowner's Association, Mr. Jenson spoke on Regular Agenda Item
"300" and asked for the City Commission's support.
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that she
was in favor of sidewalks and slowing traffic on Dyson Drive; and that she supports the
proposed Cell Tower.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
103. Parks And Recreation Department
Representatives Of The Winter Springs Babe Ruth Girls Softball Requesting To
Present Two (2) State Champions For Girls Softball 14 And Under And 8 And
Under Teams.
Ms. Sondra Ahlers, Secretary, Winter Springs Youth Sports Board of Directors, 616
Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: introduced Mr. Scott Wade.
Mr. Scott Wade, Manager of Rookie (8U) Babe Ruth State Champions, 1229 Winding
Chase Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: introduced the members of his team.
Mr. Jim Brown, Manager of 14U Fastpitch Babe Ruth State Champions, 155 Panama
Road East, Winter Springs, Florida: introduced his team members.
Mr. (Jim) Brown then requested recognition signage at the entrances of Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush stated, "I think if you would work with Chuck Pula, Director of Parks and
Recreation on this - he will come back to the Commission with a recommendation. But
you work with him on what you think it should look like, etc. - and then it will come
through Mr. McLemore and come back to the Commission at a later time."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
104. Parks And Recreation Department
Friends Of Leash Optional Park Requesting To Present A Commemorative Check
And Actual Check In The Amount Of $4,000.00 Toward Irrigation For New Dog
Park Site, As Well As A Certificate From Sun State Tree.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hol/ow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the "Hogs
and Hounds Puppy Love Run" and mentioned that Sun State Trees has donated a tree to
be planted; and presented to the City a check for four thousand dollars ($4,000.00) "To
help with the irrigation, and if there is a little left over, some additional trees to go on that
parcel. "
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
102. Office Of The Mayor
Requests That The City Commission Recognize And Congratulate Mr. Tim Brewer,
Owner, D'Vine Wine For Winning The Indy International Wine Competition Silver
Medal For His Blueberry Breeze Entry.
Mayor Bush recognized Mr. Tim Brewer.
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Mr. Tim Brewer, D'Vine Wine Market, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and introduced his associate, Mr. John Paul Cook
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
101. Public Works Department
Requests That The City Commission Listen To A Presentation From Carter-
Burgess Regarding The Status Of The U.S. Highway 17-92 Roadway Widening
Project From Shepard Road To Lake Mary Boulevard.
Ms. Lynne Marie Whately, AICP, Senior Project Manager, Carter Burgess, 1000 Legion
Place, Suite 1400, Orlando, Florida: spoke briefly on this project.
Mr. Eric Wooley, Project Engineer, Carter Burgess, 1000 Legion Place, Suite 1400,
Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on some of the more technical aspects
of this project.
Tape 1/Side B
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore stated, "You have a four foot (4') bike lane on each
side, which to me is awfully narrow for a fifty (50) mile-an-hour highway. You put an
eight foot (8') sidewalk on one side, a five foot (5') sidewalk on the other but for bicycles,
can't you do better than four feet (4') for the safety of these people?"
With discussion, Mr. Wooley stated, "We can certainly bring that issue up with the DOT
(Department of Transportation)." Commissioner Gilmore noted, "I wish you would."
Mr. Wooley added, "I will."
Commissioner Robert S. Miller remarked, "Some thought should be given 1 think, in your
planning - because the Trail crosses through there, you might want to consider putting - a
twelve foot (12') - sidewalk, instead of eight (8') and demarking maybe three (3) or 4 feet
(4') of it for pedestrians - and the rest for - people that want to ride bicycles."
Commissioner Miller added, "Because of the Trail there, 1 think some consideration
ought to be given to his comment."
With further comments, Manager McLemore asked, "Are the slopes going to require
fences?" Ms. Whately stated, "Probably?" Manager McLemore then said, "Could we
please not get chain link fence, at least get black vinyl?" Ms. Whately responded, "We
can certainly request that."
Concluding, Ms. Whately stated, "This project is going to be going to a Public Hearing
on Wednesday, January 31 st - the meeting will be held actually at the Seminole County
Board Chambers from 5:30 [p.m.] to 7:30 [p.m.] - there will be a formal presentation at
6:30 p.m., so we are inviting all of the public to attend."
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Public Works Department
Requests That The City Commission Listen To A Presentation From Mr. Robert
King, Chairman Of The Friends Of Lake Jesup.
Mr. Robert King, Chairman of the Friends of Lake Jesup, 2211 Black Hammock Road,
Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City Commission.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department commented on this
Issue.
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis said to Mr. King, "I think we would all appreciate it if
you and Brian [Fields] would keep us updated and if there is anything that we can do to
be more forceful advocates - then you would have to tell us."
Mr. King then suggested, "I think the key is - communication." Mr. King added, "I think
attending the meetings would be - a really good place to start, and then pay attention -
when you get your report every month - and like 1 said, they should be bringing you all
this stuff that affects you."
Further discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion.
Mayor Bush suggested, "Further discussion with maybe more time allotted, but not
during a Regular Meeting, so we can - talk about that under our Seats and see about
setting a Workshop." Mr. King stated, "Okay."
Commissioner Miller inquired, "Are we going to set up a Workshop?" Mayor Bush
stated, "Yes, that is what 1 was going to recommend that we do." Mr. King noted, "If
you do have an opportunity for Agencies to come and present, 1 am sure they would all
love to come and tell you - what a great job they are doing of their part." Furthermore,
Commissioner Miller stated, "I would love to see you and Staff come back to us with
how much of our watershed is actually Winter Springs and how much is Orange County;
because that is the way to really get this up to a national level, if we can get Congressmen
throughout the area being called by their constituents."
Mayor Bush then said, "Commissioners, would you like to see a Workshop on this
further?" Deputy Mayor McGinnis remarked, "I would." Mayor Bush said, "Brian
[Fields], would you let us know when would be a good time?" Mr. Fields nodded in
agreement.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of
The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance Number 2006-12, Which Amends City Code Section 20-451. Regarding
Telecommunication Towers And Antennas.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOYED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2006-12 by "Title" only.
Commissioner Gilmore noted, "On page - 2 -, we said antennas shall be close-mounted or
concealed - 1 thought that we were only going for concealed ones?" Commissioner
Gilmore added, "Did we not tell everybody that if we built a cell tower that they would
not see antennas on it? 1 believe we did." Manager McLemore noted, "There are
examples and it's been done all over the place where the antennas are contained inside
the pole." Commissioner Gilmore noted, "And that is what 1 thought we were talking
about."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese mentioned, "Close-mounted. Not the antennae
arrays that stick out like we have out here behind City Hall, but close-mounted, flush up
against the pole." Commissioner Gilmore said, "I would suggest that before we would
accept that, they would have to prove they couldn't put them internal to the pole."
Manager McLemore stated, "I agree." Commissioner Miller suggested, "That would all
be part of the approval process for that location - the Application."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore then noted the draft Ordinance and stated, "On e., page 6,
you have - second line under e. - you have 'by'. Should that be 'by' or 'of? Attorney
Garganese stated, '" Of."
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Discussion.
Referencing page 14 of the Ordinance, and item (15), Commissioner Gilmore spoke of
"Existing principal use includes the storage. We all know the principal use of the cell
tower location is not to store fuel but if they have generators, we are going to have fuel
storage for those generators on those sites. And I think that we ought to indicate in item
(15) that the storage is for the use of those generators if necessary." Continuing,
Commissioner Gilmore suggested, "Maybe we ought to say in there, this does not apply
to fuels for use in emergency generators on site." Attorney Garganese remarked,
"Certainly can add that language."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association; and noted he was in support of the sites for a Cell
Tower.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE THIS TO THE SECOND HEARING - WITH
THE TWEAKING FROM COMMISSIONER GILMORE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance Number 2006-15, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text
Amendment (Referenced As LS-CP A-07-03) Which Creates Future Land Use
Element Policy 1.8.4, Establishing An Eastern Annexation Boundary For The City,
Preventing The City From Expanding The City Boundary Beyond Deleon Street.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the
Commission for setting the boundary line.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Commissioner Miller spoke for the Record on high standards.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM "202" WAS
FURTHER DISCUSSED LATER IN THE MEETING, AS SHOWN ON PAGE 11
OF THESE MINUTES. .:. .:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider A PUD
(Planned Unit Development) Amendment For Parcel 14 Of The Oviedo Marketplace
PUD (Planned Unit Development) (And Development Of Regional Impact - DRI)
By The Viera Company.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced
this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission on the number of units.
Further comments were made.
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Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department spoke on
this parcel in question.
Commissioner Miller stated, "I would like to be certain that what we think is going to
happen is going to happen there. There seems to be some - investigative work that will
be done - on actual wetland areas, etc. - if it turns out to be a little bit different that what
we were anticipating than what we were anticipating here, then there could be more
development in office, in residential, or vice versa." Discussion.
Mr. Rick Merkel, PE., Professional Engineering Consultants, 200 East Robinson Street,
Suite 1560, Orlando, Florida: commented on this project.
"SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION - I
WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS TO NEXT MEETING, OR JUST POSTPONE
IT AND REVIEW IT AGAIN, AND HAVE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL STUFF
COME BACK SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY SURE WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese left the Commission Chambers at approximately 8:39 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission A Request For A Conditional Use To Allow The
Grove Counseling Center (Also Known As The Grove Academy) To Expand,
Within The 1-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District, Pursuant To Section 20-261. And
Section 20-33. Of The Zoning Chapter Of The City Code Of Ordinances.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Larry Birch, 580 Old Sanford-Oviedo Road, Winter Springs, Florida: as the
President of the Grove Counseling Center, Mr. Birch thanked the City Commission for
their continued support.
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Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS - CONDITIONAL
USE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED,
"SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
204. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
For The AmSouth Bank Located On The Northeast Corner Of State Road 434 And
Parkstone Drive, Located On A Commercial Out-Parcel Of The Parkstone Planned
Unit Development (PUD), At The Northeast Corner Of SR (State Road) 434 And
Parks tone Boulevard.
As mentioned under Agenda Changes, this Agenda Item was not discussed.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM "205" WAS
FURTHER DISCUSSED LATER IN THE MEETING, AS SHOWN ON PAGE 13-
14 OF THESE MINUTES. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
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205. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
For The Residential Lot Located At 185 East Trade Winds Road To Facilitate The
Construction Of A New House Before An Existing House On The Same Lot Is
Demolished.
Mr. Stevenson presented this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush inquired, "If approved, and the construction starts, what happens if it just
stops before the house is completed? Let's say the owner moves away. What happens?"
Attorney Garganese returned to the Commission Chambers at 8:42 p.m.
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Mr. Stevenson then explained, "We have an escrow account again that would enable the
City to go in and either - demolish the existing home or I would assume to go in and I
could defer to Anthony [Garganese] on this remove all work on the new home to restore
it, if it is not finished." Mayor Bush noted, "I think if that is not clear, it ought to be in
there,"
Attorney Garganese said, "If they're constructing the new home and it remains
unfinished, is that your issue?" Mayor Bush stated, "Yes." Commissioner Miller
remarked, "You need to address it." Attorney Garganese continued, "It is not addressed
in the Agreement - that scenario."
Attorney Garganese commented, "I could address it in the Agreement - if they abandon
the construction of the new home, then - the property has to be restored."
Tape 2/Side B
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "I agree, we need to fix it, but I would like to have it done
tonight. "
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM "202" WAS
DISCUSSED AGAIN, AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON PAGE 8 OF THESE
MINUTES. .:. .:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider A PUD
(Planned Unit Development) Amendment For Parcel 14 Of The Oviedo Marketplace
PUD (Planned Unit Development) (And Development Of Regional Impact - DRI)
By The Viera Company.
Mayor Bush stated, "What we need to do is step back and take '202' offthe Table; so we
need a Motion."
MOTION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN TO TAKE '202'
AND PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush spoke for the Record on this Agenda Item.
Ms. Sahlstrom began this discussion with a reference to a copy of the Minutes from
March 27,2006.
With discussion on the density, Commissioner Miller stated, "If it is eight point eight
(8.8) on the fifteen (15) acres, that is fine with me." Commissioner Miller added, "I just
don't want it to be more than eight point eight (8.8) per acre - the density."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Raphael F. Hanley, The Viera Company, 7380 Murrell Road, Suite 201, Viera,
Florida: commented on renewing the Planned Unit Development (PUD) Amendment.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
206. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Approve The Oviedo Marketplace Parcel 14
Lot Split, And Authorize Its Recordation.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item and mentioned an error in the Agenda Item by
saying, "1 had some erroneous information in the 'CONSIDERATIONS:' part. I had
copied this from another Staff Report and it is probably pretty obvious that this is not in
the Ranchlands." Mayor Bush noted, "The first sentence under 'CONSIDERATIONS:'
should just be stricken."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Raphael F. Hanley, The Viera Company, 7380 Murrell Road, Suite 201, Viera,
Florida: commented on the proposed Lot Split.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:59 p.m.
The Meeting was called back to Order at 9: 14 p. m.
Due to technical difficulties, the next Audiotape was used.
Tape 3/Side A
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM "205" WAS
DISCUSSED AGAIN, AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON PAGE 10 OF THESE
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
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205. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
For The Residential Lot Located At 185 East Trade Winds Road To Facilitate The
Construction Of A New House Before An Existing House On The Same Lot Is
Demolished.
Attorney Garganese said, "Paragraph 4.3 talks about' Owner's Default; City's Right To
Demolish. ' If we add some language that says, 'In the event Owner defaults on his
obligation to complete the demolition within the time period required hereunder'; or, and
this is new language; 'Or abandons construction of the additional Residence'; and then
the rest stays the same 'execution of this Agreement represents
Owner's unconditional consent for the City and its contractors to access and enter upon
the Property for purposes of demolishing the Existing Residence' or the uncompleted
additional residence, 'including, but not limited to,' etc. etc. And, then wherever it says
'Existing Residence', add, 'Or uncompleted additional Residence', throughout the rest of
that paragraph.
And, then add a sentence at the end for purposes of this paragraph, 'The term abandons
shall mean that the building permits issued for the additional Residence have expired for
constructing the additional Residence, or the Owner has failed to diligently pursue
completion of the additional Residence within two (2) years of the effective date of this
Agreement' ."
Commissioner Miller said, "Does that mean it all has to be done within two (2) years?"
Attorney Garganese said, "The additional Residence, or there would be a default. Or, the
permits expire. My understanding is the home that they want to build should easily be
completed within two (2) years."
Discussion.
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese stated, "In fact, paragraph 4.4 in the 'Escrow Funds. "
we would just do some conforming Amendment to say that those monies could be used in
the event the additional Residence is not constructed, per - paragraph 4.3."
Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioners, does that take care of the problem?" Deputy
Mayor McGinnis remarked, "Thank you." No objections were noted.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN
WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, THAT ANTHONY
[GARGANESE] - READ." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
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300. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Proposed Modification To The
Development Agreement Between Robert Yeager, Trustee; Zimmer Development
Company; Contra Vest, Inc.; And The City Of Winter Springs (Dated December 14,
1998) To Allow Two (2) Signs - Each Six Feet (6') Tall - One (1) On Each Of Two
(2) Lots. These Signs Would Be In Lieu Of One (1), Eight Foot Nine Inches (8'-9")
Tall Monument Sign Approved Through The Previous Development Agreement Or
Two (2), Four Foot (4') Tall Monument Signs. In Discussions Of A Proposed
Development Agreement For The Seminole Trail Animal Hospital, The City
Commission Indicated That They Would Support Two (2), Four Foot (4') Tall By
Six Foot (6') Wide Monument Signs.
Mr. Baker presented this Agenda Item.
Brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS STATED, "I THINK THAT THE COMMENTS
FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT HOA'S (HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS) DO
GO ON THE RECORD AND SUPPORT - OR AGAINST PROJECTS; AND I
APPRECIATE THAT HAPPENING IN THIS INSTANCE."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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301. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Final Engineering/Site Plan For The
AmSouth Bank, Located On A Commercial Out-Parcel Of The Parkstone Planned
Unit Development (PUD), At The North East Corner Of State Road 434 And
Parkstone Boulevard.
As mentioned under Agenda Changes, this Agenda Item was not discussed.
REGULAR
302. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Hayes Road Plaza Preliminary
Engineering/Site Plan, Located On The South Side Of State Road 434, At The
Southwest Corner Of The Intersection Of State Road 434 And Hayes Road.
Mr. Baker introduced this item for discussion.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked, "How many storefronts are proposed?"
Mr. Jeffrey 0 'Connor, 2592 Double Tree Place, Oviedo, Florida: remarked, "There are
about eight (8)." With discussion, Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "If the discussion is
successful with Starbucks, what - are the drive-thru plans?" Mr. O'Conner stated,
"None. There will be no drive-thru."
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "Staff recommends a recommendation of approval subject to
the land from the east bound right to turn lane being conveyed to the City in exchange for
Traffic Impact Fee credits. I just want to make sure that that is going to be the case."
Mr. Fields commented, "That's what we would like to see happen. Typically, the
Developer's Agreement would come in with Final Engineering to document that..."
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Attorney Garganese remarked, "...That is a condition of Approval." Mr. Fields stated,
"Yes." Attorney Garganese added, "If they don't convey the land, in exchange for
Traffic Impact Fee Credits per the City Code..." Mr. Fields stated, "...That is
correct. . . ." Attorney Garganese noted, "Then this approval is null and void. Correct?"
Mr. Fields stated, "That is the way it is written, yes." Deputy Mayor McGinnis added,
"That is how I understand it." Attorney Garganese noted, "We will make that pretty clear
on the Record."
Mayor Bush said, "The Motion, when one is made - for Approval, should be as the
recommendation on Page 3."
Brief discussion followed on the sidewalks.
Commissioner Brown said to Commissioner Miller, "Your question was moving that
sidewalk back before the turn lane was done so that we have safe access?"
Commissioner Miller answered, "If it takes a couple of years, I guess the sidewalk could
just stay where it is until we get - everything in place to actually - put in the turn lane.
So, as long as they would plant something there. How long do you think it is going to
take to get the turn lane?"
Mr. Fields asked, "When you say to get the turn lane, do you mean to get the land?"
Commissioner Miller said, "My thought is, if this is going to be ten (10) years down the
road before the turn lane comes, at some point they are going to have to come back to us
for a more in depth definitive approval and then we could discuss some kind of foliage or
things like that along here - so you wouldn't have a sidewalk where the dead area was."
Commissioner Miller continued, "The sidewalk could probably stay where it is I suppose,
or, we could ask them to put in a sidewalk and put some kind of green foliage, or we
could do it, along the roadway, if it's going to be ten (10) years before we build a turn
lane. "
Continuing, Mr. Fields stated, "If they come in quickly with the final engineering, then
we can acquire the land to construct the turn lane, including the sidewalk. If they delay it
for some reason, then we would have to proceed under an alternative method to acquire
the land and then proceed with the turn lane."
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE LAND
FOR THE EAST BOUND RIGHT LANE, TURN LANE, BEING CONVEYED TO
THE CITY IN EXCHANGE FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT - FEE CREDITS."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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303. Not Used.
REGULAR
304. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Set A Date For A Traffic Calming Workshop.
Mr. Fields presented this Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on a possible date, to which Mayor Bush suggested, "April 16th
[2007J. Commissioner Brown noted, "Works for me." Deputy Mayor McGinnis
remarked, "/ like 5:15 [p.m.J."
Mr. Fields said, "This is a general Traffic Calming Workshop to discuss methods to
help us develop guidelines. We could point to specific projects, such as Dyson [DriveJ
or Murphy Road to use as a context, but not really targeting a specific project for the
discussion. "
Mayor Bush said, ii/ think the outcome eventually would be to set a guideline that
could be used for any street in the City." Mr. Fields stated, "Yes."
Mayor Bush said, "The 16th [April 2007J - 5:15 [p.m.J. Everybody is okay?" There
were no objections from the City Commission.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 9:35 p.m.
The Meeting was called back to Order at 9:39 p.m.
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REGULAR
305. Community Development Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider The Request Of Vistawilla Office
Center LLC To Relocate The Manual Sign For The Vistawilla Office Center As
Approved In The Final Engineering To A Site Located On The Northwest Corner
Of The Phase I Building.
Manager McLemore and Mr. Stevenson spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this project.
Discussion.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "Will the berm hide the transformer?" Mr. Corkery stated,
"Yes, Sir. And with the landscaping."
Tape 3/Side B
Manager McLemore said, "You can't rely on plant material to hide this transformer. The
berm needs to be sufficiently high to hide the transformer. Now, the other plant material
will certainly help to soften it and all that. But the berm needs to be high enough to hide
the transformer."
Mr. Richard Shadley, Outdoor Design Works, Inc., 515 Park Avenue North, Suite 216,
Winter Park, Florida: addressed the City Commission.
Manager McLemore asked, "Will the transformer be visible behind the hard structures
there?" Mr. Shadley stated, "No." Manager McLemore asked, "There's sufficient -
height to hide the transformer without the plant material?" Mr. Shadley stated, "Yes.
Then the plant material will be on top of them."
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown stated, "In the original plan that was approved, how was that
transformer supposed to be shielded?" Mr. Corkery stated, "With some landscaping."
Mr. Stevenson stated, "I believe that transformer, again, was back behind what would be
the berm because it was on the back behind - it was on the back side of the berm."
Further discussion.
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson inquired, "As I transition in a vehicle and these things move,
because they're transitional - you're changing position. I just wanted to - my question
was - the juxtaposition of those vertical planters to each other, do they provide a
continuous buffer of the transformer as that car transitions..." Manager McLemore
noted, "".I think the answer is they're saying 'Yes', they will make it that way."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL - WITH THE
ADDITION OF THE ADDITIONAL HARD PLANTER BUFFER SO THAT IT
CAN'T BE SEEN IN A TRANSITIONAL VIEW AS YOU DRIVE BY." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY-
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE GO OUT FAR ENOUGH WITH THE CONCRETE." MANAGER
McLEMORE STATED, "WE WILL REVIEW THE PLANS AND MAKE SURE
THAT HAPPENS."
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO
REFERENCE THIS DRAWING IN YOUR MOTION THAT IT WOULD BE THIS
HARD COVER ALL THE WAY AROUND LIKE THIS TO THIS POINT AND
THE SOFT COVER ON THE REAR TO THE PARKING LOT BACK HERE.
THAT COULD BE JUST PLANT - SCREEN WITH PLANT MATERIAL ON IT;
AND THEN HARD COVER ON THIS ONE ON THE THREE (3) SIDES, TO THE
POINT WHERE IT'S NOT VISIBLE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY SOFT
COVER ON THE BACK OF THAT DO WE, FOR THE TRANSFORMER?" MR.
STEVENSON ASKED, "DOES THE BACK SIDE OF THE TRANSFORMER
HIDE - DOES THE BERM HIDE TRANSFORMER FROM THE PARKING
LOT?" MR. SHADLEY STATED, "NO."
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "WHATEVER IT TAKES. IF IT'S ONE (1)
THAT'S FINE." MR. CORKERY STATED, "OKAY. AND, IF IT'S TWO (2),
IT'S TWO (2)." COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "THREE (3)."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager McLemore said, "Since this was part of a Final Engineering, what do we need
to do to Amend the Final Engineering - just reference it? Okay."
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Fire Department
Requesting Approval To Purchase A HYBRID Vehicle By Piggybacking Off Of The
Florida Sheriffs Association, Florida Association Of Counties And Florida Fire
Chiefs' Association Bid Number 06-14-0821.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis stated, "1 just want to say, 1 am delighted that we are using
hybrid vehicles. And, make a statement that 1 hope - we continue to use hybrid vehicles
in the future."
CONSENT
401. Office Of the City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Adopt Resolution Number 2007-06 Supporting
Issues Forwarded By The Florida League Of Cities During The 2007 Legislative
Session.
No discussion.
CONSENT
402. Utility/Public Works Department
Request Authorization For The City Manager To Execute A Distribution Easement
With Progress Energy At The New Public Works Facility.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
403. Public Works Department
Reaward Dyson Drive Sidewalk Construction.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked, "Have all the tree and drainage issues been resolved?"
Mr. Fields stated, "Yes. This is just are-award of the contract for a lower price."
Commissioner Gilmore inquired, "Have we worked with the homeowners on the little
walls that had to be built?" Mr. Fields stated, "We are in the process of doing that.
We're meeting with them individually."
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CONSENT
404. UtilitylPublic Works Department
UtilitylPublic Works Compound Contract Change OrderlDelay Settlement.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
405. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-05 Authorizing The City
Manager To Enter Into A Highway Maintenance Memorandum Of Agreement
With The Florida Department Of Transportation For The Maintenance Of State
Road 434.
Commissioner Miller stated, "Some areas of [State Road] 434 just don't seem to be
getting the attention that other areas do. And since this is - an Agreement that is going to
cover from Talmo [Street], all the way to the GreeneWay, I just wanted to express my
concern about - the green or the foliage. Like along Village Walk and going up towards
both sides - it's still not to what it really ought to be. So, if our new Contractor is going
to be developing a schedule, I would like to see them allocate some time to make sure
that that's - brought up to the standard, I think, all of us thought it was going to be. The
groundcover is still impoverished in a lot of areas over there."
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division Manager, Community
Development Department stated, "We are continuing to work on that. You will see an
improvement in a few months."
CONSENT
406. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval Of An Increase In Scope (Change Order) In The Contract
With Orlando Paving Company For The Resurfacing Of Phase I Of Winter Springs
Boulevard.
With brief discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "He will do the remainder of the
work at the agreed upon price?" Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility
Department stated, "Correct, that's our intent. We will bring that back to you though."
CONSENT
407. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 8, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
408. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting Authority From The City Commission To Enter Into An Emergency
Contract With R.A. Rogers Construction Company To Construct Sidewalk
Improvements In Front Of Building 3 In The Town Center In An Amount Not To
Exceed $66,736.00.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT [AGENDA]." MAYOR BUSH STATED,
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis stated, "On Page 8, under (13), we keep referring to Villa
Grande. It isn't that anymore. We need to change that." With further comments, Mayor
Bush said, "You can take it off, put it back on and you've got something solid." Deputy
Mayor McGinnis stated, "That's alright."
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "On Page 10, under [a.k.a.] 'Villagio " it refers to
September 16th. We approved the restaurant sign. 1 think we can now just say that 'Yen
Yen' is open. Put in the name. We mention the flower shop, the bicycle shop, the liquor
store, can't we add that?" Mr. Baker stated, "We had that the 'Yen Yen' had received
their C of 0 (Certificate of Occupancy), but 1 thought it was pretty well acknowledged."
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "It doesn't say 'Yen Yen'." Mr. Baker stated, "It used
to." Mr. Baker added, "I can put it back if you want?"
Discussion.
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Manager McLemore said, "Question about Villa Grande. I meet with them Thursday.
Their intent at this point in time is to move ahead briskly, as quickly as possible. So, I
don't see any need to take it off because it'll be coming back in front of you real soon."
Deputy Mayor McGinnis noted, "Good - I agree."
INFORMATIONAL
501. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission An Update Regarding Traffic Impacts From The
Legacy Park Mixed-Use Project In Casselberry.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
502. Utility Department
Informing The City Commission On The Potable Water Usage For 2006.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requested By The City Manager To Inform The City Commission Regarding
Viable Turfgrasses For Use On Residential Property In The City Of Winter
Springs.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "About three (3) years ago, I brought up that I thought it
would be a good idea if we would encourage all Developers to utilize as much xeriscape
as possible. I think we should do that."
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese stated, "I need to inform the Commission that Mr. Binford filed a
Notice of Appeal in his sign case.
Second, just a reminder that we have an Attorney-Client Session scheduled before the
next regularly scheduled City Commission Meeting, regarding the Highlands
Homeowner's Association case to discuss some loose ends."
Next, Attorney Garganese commented, "Roy Mediation is scheduled for Wednesday. We
had a pre-mediation meeting with the Roy's and their Traffic Consultant today to try to
resolve it."
Continuing, Attorney Garganese noted, "We had that first Agreement we called the
'Tear Down Occupancy Agreement'. That's something that I think is probably going
to be prevalent in the community. There is a way to - streamline that and that would
be to put an Ordinance on the books that would authorize the Manager to enter into
those Agreements providing all of the Conditions are met in that Agreement that we
put together. Is that something you want to pursue to try to streamline that, or do you
want to see those Agreements on a case-by-case basis?"
Mayor Bush stated, "Streamline it." Deputy Mayor McGinnis stated, "Yes." No
objections were voiced. Attorney Garganese stated, "Okay. We'll work on that."
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "Thank you for coming to the Seminar, it was obviously set up
for you; and thank you for agreeing to let us share it again with the other communities."
Then, Manager McLemore stated, "I have been working with Mr. Richart on an
enhancement to the medians on [State Road] 434. Our intent is to put in - between
seventy-five and a hundred (75-100) additional trees between the pedestrian overpass and
intersection of [State Road] 419 and [State Road] 434. The intent there is to create more
color than we have now. It's 1 think another step in the enhancement, and there will be
enhancements above this. Just to let you know that you're going to see this stuff going in
Thursday, unless you raise some kind of objection to this tonight. But, 1 think you will
really like the result." Manager McLemore added, "The cost is probably nine to ten
thousand dollars ($9-10,000.00), which would come from the Arbor Fund."
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REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs was absent, however, City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces read an
email from Commissioner Krebs.
Mayor Bush stated, "I think it is a good idea." Commissioner Brown stated, "I second
Commissioner Krebs heading it up." Deputy Mayor McGinnis stated, "I third that."
Mayor Bush noted, "Joanne [Krebs] is in charge, okay!"
Commissioner Gilmore asked, "Last year there was a company or organization that
handled serving food, plates." Commissioner Gilmore added, "Are we in conflict with
them with any kind of an Agreement?" Deputy Mayor McGinnis inquired, "Are there
Health Department regulations about anybody, just anybody doing that?"
With further discussion, Commissioner Gilmore said, "Before we jump into this, we need
to go to the people who are running it and make sure that they haven't made an
Agreement. "
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Another issue that concerns me and that's the 'Liability
issue'. There has to be some health concerns about this. Somebody can't just start
selling, making food."
Mayor Bush said, "This is Commissioner Krebs issue and we'll put her in charge of it.
We've got to come up with a hundred dollars ($100.00) though if that's the - fee to get
into this. 1 recommend the Commission say we take it out ofthe Manager's budget."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE - THE HUNDRED DOLLAR ($100.00)
FEE OUT OF THE MANAGER'S BUDGET." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN." DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS SAID, "WE COULD ALSO EACH
CONTRIBUTE."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY [BUT I WILL DONATE TWENTY
DOLLARS ($20.00) TOWARDS THE HUNDRED [DOLLARS] ($100.00)]
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY [WITH THE SAME CRITERIA AS
COMMISSIONER MILLER].
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Mayor Bush said, "So, we will all kick in twenty - [dollars] ($20.00)." Mayor Bush
added, "The Manager should kick in twenty - [dollars] ($20.00), and the Attorney. "
REPORTS
604. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "The Scottish Highland Games, 1 mentioned a little earlier this
evening - I think were very successful. Anywhere from ten to fifteen thousand people.
We don't have a number yet." Mayor Bush added, "I would encourage the
Commissioners, next year, to get involved in this. It is a lot of fun."
Then, Mayor Bush added, "You all got copies of letters from the Casa Park Villas
Homeowner's Association concerning the people dropping and picking their kids up at
school from Keeth [Elementary School]. I gave copies of these letters to the
Superintendent, he is talking to the Principals about it. I contacted the Casa Park Villas -
this Carol Perkins - I talked with her today and I also wrote her a letter. Told her what
was going on. She was happy."
Next, Mayor Bush stated, "Trotwood Park - on the issue of the noise and so forth. There
was a gentleman who was at the Commission Meeting who blew the whistle. Called me
the other day and he was tickled pink, because there was actually a Park Ranger out there
and everything really went well. The next night the Park Ranger didn't show up and
things went kind of south again. He called and wanted to know. I talked to the Manager
about this and I think Chuck (Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department) is
working at some kind of a plan to present to the Manager which of course, will
eventually come back to the Commission."
Regarding a letter concerning Elder Affairs, Mayor Bush stated, "Is Staff sending people
to - any of these programs?" Manager McLemore stated, "We are going to send
someone to that and that will be Randy [Stevenson], because he's the one working with
Affordable Housing."
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Mayor Bush stated, "Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] - how many Homeowner's Association
have officially responded to the letter that we sent out asking for their representative to be
identified? I haven't really enforced it yet, because I don't know who has and who
hasn't." Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "Not very many - I think around five (5) so far."
Mayor Bush asked, "Could you let us know?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "Sure."
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller said, "Two (2) people have mentioned to me that the Veteran's
Memorial is not depicted on this graphic we have out in the outer room."
Then, Commissioner Miller spoke about the number of Banks in the area and stated, "I
think it would be in our best interest to have - the Attorney look into this."
Commissioner Miller explained, "I think it would be in our interests to protect the visual
appearance of our City. If we could craft an Ordinance or some kind of a legislation
wherein the Bank that is about to open its doors, or considering opening its doors, would
be advised that there are these preconditions that, 'Should you decide to close this
facility, it will not be able to be used for the following purposes' - maybe for used car
lots..." Commissioner Miller added, "...Ifwe don't try to address it, I think we're going
to be stuck."
With further comments, Commissioner Miller remarked, "I would like to see the
Attorney look into what other people have done also."
Tape 4/Side A
REPORTS
606. Commissioner Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned a letter sent to Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr. and a response
from Mr. Martinez, all related to Chamber of Commerce proceedings; to which
Commissioner Brown stated, "I had a conversation with the City Attorney and just for the
Public Record I would like to ask Anthony [Garganese] if you can provide an ethical
statement to Mr. Martinez and some ruling by the City Commission or by the City
Attorney that we consider the matter closed, and that the Public Record stands as accurate
and final and has not been tampered with." Furthermore, Commissioner Brown noted,
"We should have something on Record as a final response."
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Next, Commissioner Brown remarked, "Can we investigate a way of getting on our
Website any link to any information regarding either what the County is doing or the
State is doing with Lake Jesup or any link to any sort of Friends of Lake Jesup sites so
that we can keep the citizens informed of any information that is out there, or at least give
them resources to go look at what is happening..." Manager McLemore stated, "...1 am
pretty sure we can. . .." Commissioner Brown added, "... With the lake."
Continuing, Commissioner Brown commented, "At the last Meeting as well, we talked
about having a discussion on a modified start time for the Commission Meetings and
three (3) or four (4) people came up to me - expecting it to be on this Agenda and it
wasn't for discussion, so can we perhaps look at that, at the next one?"
Mayor Bush remarked, "I would think that at this next Commission Meeting, we would
ask the Manager to put this back on the Agenda - where we would start the Meetings at
5:15 p.m." Manager McLemore said, "As our discussion was, with the understanding
that if somebody didn't show up that night, we were going to do it anyhow."
Manager McLemore then explained, "We will put it on the next Agenda regardless of -
what Commissioners are able to come or not." Mayor Bush stated, "Yes. Okay."
Mayor Bush then suggested, "Also on this Agenda Item too, I would like for the
Commission to consider changing - the sequence - for instance, we might want to keep
Public Input at 6:30 [p.m.] since people are used to that, but we could start the Meeting
out with maybe Consent or Informational." Furthermore, Mayor Bush noted, "We need
to consider some alternatives to - cover that. We will talk about that when we bring that
up next week." Commissioner Brown added, "That in concert with the radio broadcast
for the internet availability."
Mayor Bush mentioned that "George Colombo videotaped the State of the City [Address]
and put it out on the Web, and he did it with a six hundred dollar ($600.00) camera."
Mayor Bush added, "It is not good enough for SGTV (Seminole Government TV), but it
is good enough for video streaming on the Web and that may be something we would
want to consider doing."
Commissioner Brown then said, "I have asked [Mr.] Rob Beach (Information
Technology Director) over at Oviedo to meet with him and our meeting is going to be on
Wednesday to look at what Oviedo has done with televising their Meetings."
Continuing, Commissioner Brown asked, "In our last negotiations with Brighthouse
(Networks], did we obtain that switch that was necessary?" Mayor Bush stated, "Yes we
did."
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Furthermore, Commissioner Brown remarked, "Rob (Beach) gave me a preliminary
figure of their set-up of their Chamber, to be able to broadcast on the Internet and do that
switch over to SGTV (Seminole Government TV) of thirty thousand dollars
($30,000.00)." Commissioner Brown suggested, "It would be worth looking at again, I
think." Manager McLemore inquired, "Could he meet with us and Staff?"
Commissioner Brown responded, "I am sure he would."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore mentioned a pamphlet he obtained that deals with how "To
address your City Council." Continuing, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I think we
should have something here that defines the procedures, how much time they get and this
is just a model." Furthermore, Commissioner Gilmore said, "I would like to get an
indication from us as to whether we think we should have something like this."
Commissioner Miller said, "Sure."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore spoke of the meters discussed tonight along with previous
discussions on condenser units, etc., and stated, "I think that the Building Department
needs to get into this stuff." Commissioner Gilmore added, "I think we need to spend
more time thinking about those things because we are getting more multi-tenant
buildings."
Commissioner Gilmore then mentioned that "We talked some months ago about a
potential Ordinance requiring tear-downs of buildings or something done when they
caught fire."
Then, Commissioner Gilmore asked, "Were we not going to bring back something in an
Ordinance, requiring certain actions to be taken over a period of time, when buildings
have - caught fire or are in disrepair, so that we - don't have these things sitting around
for two (2), three (3) years or something." Manager McLemore stated, "I think we could
ask the City Attorney to address that." Attorney Garganese remarked, "I can get back to
you on that."
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Commissioner Gilmore next spoke of the Roy case, to which Commissioner Gilmore
stated, "As such, should not have any communication with them?" Attorney Garganese
stated, "Absolutely." Commissioner Gilmore then remarked, "But the bottom line is we
as Commissioners, should have no contact with people under litigation with us."
Attorney Garganese noted, "I recommend that we speak with one voice when it comes to
litigation. "
Next, Commissioner Gilmore spoke on the City Manager's limit for approval of Purchase
Orders, to which Manager McLemore stated, "We set it at twelve-five ($12,500.00) when
I came here eleven (11) years ago, and it really should be updated." Manager McLemore
added, "We've developed some information of what the norm is and the averages around
here - we can give you at the next Commission Meeting."
Mayor Bush then mentioned the cut-thru's at Bruster's and such related Bids, and noted,
"What I would like to see the Commission do - at least - Ron [McLemore] can come back
later, but to give him the authority to go ahead and move forward on the State Road 434
issue." Deputy Mayor McGinnis commented, "Absolutely."
With discussion, Mr. Fields spoke on costs related to this project and said, "We can bring
it back formally at the next Agenda or you could authorize a certain amount, not to
exceed..." Manager McLemore suggested, "... Make it a hundred thousand [dollars]
($100,000.00). "
Furthermore, Manager McLemore recommended, "You have the City Attorney review it.
Ifhe's comfortable with it, you give me the authority and it's done."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE
MANAGER TO CONTRACT UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
($100,000.00) FOR MEDIAN REMOVAL ON [STATE ROAD] 434..."
MANAGER McLEMORE NOTED, "...WITH REVIEW OF THE CITY
ATTORNEY." COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "WITH REVIEW OF
THE CITY ATTORNEY - THIS WOULD BE A PIGGYBACK BID." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis stated "Point of Order" and spoke of the pending Roll Call.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Fourmeputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked if the Podium in the Commission Chambers could be
moved to other side of the dais.
Next, Deputy Mayor McGinnis spoke on the Seminole Children's Village and mentioned
an upcoming Golf Tournament being held to help with costs, to which Deputy Mayor
McGinnis asked, "If you would like to sponsor a hole, it would be appreciated!"
Deputy Mayor McGinnis then spoke about a Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association
Policy on not speaking before the City Commission.
Brief comments were made on Binford Appeals.
Deputy Mayor McGinnis then commented positively on last week's "New Urbanism
[Special Focus: Developing a Town Center Today" Seminar and remarked about the
video that was done - "We should market this."
Then, Deputy Mayor McGinnis mentioned with our new Commissioner, "It might be a
good idea, it would be prudent for us to reaffirm our commitment to maintain the Winter
Springs Golf Course as a Golf Course - reaffirm our commitment to keep the control of
the Conservation Easement rights." With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized the
discussion, "A Resolution." With comments on the Comprehensive Plan, Attorney
Garganese noted, "It is already in the Comprehensive Plan. What else needs to be put in
the Comprehensive Plan, other than Open Space Recreation."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore commented on the City'S Operator. Brief discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11: 15 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DE 8IE FRANKLIN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
APPRQ'lED:-
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 12,2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.