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NOVEMBER 8, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, November 8, 2004 of the City Commission was called
to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:31 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:31 p.m.
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:31 p.m.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:31 p.m.
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller arrived at 6:32 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Joaquin Juenas, 1459 Whitehall Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
letters sent about a proposed Cemetery at St. Stephens Catholic Church, and presented his
comments in writing.
Mr. Byron Giltz, 1001 Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the timely
clean-up done by the City, and congratulated the newly elected City Commission
Officials.
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Mr. Art Gallo, 199 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: requested help from the
City Commission on the current School Redistricting issue.
Mayor Bush stated, "The Commission may want to bring this up later under their Seats,
to see if there is anything else - we could do, along that line."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The Mayor
Requests The City Commission Consider Resolution 2004-52, Which Thanks
Progress Energy Florida, Inc. For Their Efforts During The Hurricanes Of 2004.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
201. Fire Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off The Florida State Contract #250-000-
03-1 For Mobile Data Terminals.
No discussion.
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Accept The Donation Of Real Property For Magnolia Park And Associated Road
Right-Of-Way In Accordance With The Development Agreement Between
Schrimsher Land Fund 1986-11, Ltd., Schrimsher Land Fund VI, Ltd. And The City
Of Winter Springs.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
203. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests That The City Commission Approves A Hurricane Busters Appreciation
Picnic For City Employees And Their Families On Saturday, December 4, 2004 At
Central Winds Park And Approves $6,000.00 To Fund The Event From General
Fund Contingency.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
204. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Mayor Bush stated, "A request has been received from the Public WorkslUtility
Department to remove an item, which is number '1' from the Auction List and have it
transferred to their Department. The item is the 'Wheeled Coach Rescue Truck', 'Fire'
[Department], purchased on '91111[19]89', original cost was '$49,528.00', so - it
changed to the Consent Agenda."
Discussion ensued on funds related to this item.
CONSENT
205. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval To Enter Into A Contract With Juanita Blumberg To
Purchase 0.036 Acres More Or Less For The Intersection Improvements For Doran
Drive.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Information Services
Requests Authorization To Pay Invoice For Annual Fiber Optic Communication
Network Interlocal Agreement In The Amount Of $17,109.56.
Discussion.
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CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 25, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
208. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution 2004-54 - A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Gregory Thompson For His Service On The Code
Enforcement Board.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The Commission Adopt Resolution 2004-55, Establishing An
Economic Development Division Under The Office Of The City Manager.
With discussion, Commissioner Michael S. Blake asked if this action should be done by
Ordinance, and asked about the differences between Department versus Division.
Commissioner Blake then inquired, "Wasn't Economic Development specifically
included in the language when we created the Department of Community Development,
seven (7), eight (8) years ago - what was it when we created that?" Commissioner Blake
added, "I think that would be important to know."
Discussion.
Then, Commissioner Blake said, "Any time you are talking about creating some
Department, some Division or adopting an Ordinance or a Resolution that carries the
weight of creating a new exemption to Public Records, I think that that, from where I sit
anyway, that that requires more than just a simple nondescript Resolution on a Consent
Agenda. I think it is a larger issue than that." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake added,
"But without the rules and the guidelines clearly stated - in this document as to how we
will operate, I think it is a little too early, and Mayor, I would like to have this Item
pulled for separate consideration."
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES STATED, "THAT WOULD BE
EXCLUDING [CONSENT AGENDA ITEM] '209'..." MAYOR BUSH STATED,
"...YES." CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES CONTINUED, "WOULD THAT
ALSO BE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE MEMO WITH CONSENT
[AGENDA ITEM] '204'." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "RIGHT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush presented Resolution 2004-52 to Mr. Keith Blanden, Distribution Operations
Manager for the Progress Energy Florida, Inc. organization.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
300. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "Village Walk isn't on here, but I just wanted to
remind - Kip [Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department] that I had
requested, some time ago when we began to do this - a letter goes to all those businesses;
let's just not forget that." Commissioner McGinnis added, "The businesses affected by
the construction for Village Walk." Mr. Lockcuff noted, "We have talked to the Project
Manager about sending a new schedule out."
Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of the "Sprint" Cell Tower and noted, "We will see the
results I guess at the next Meeting?" Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community
Development Department said, "On the 22nd [of November 2004], Yes." With
discussion, Commissioner Blake asked, "I would question as to why we would allow at
this point in time, a Tower that is not properly sited according to our Code, to get even
larger." Attorney Garganese said, "My office has looked into this - I will go back and
look at it." Commissioner Blake added, "I have some real concerns about this." Further
discussion.
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IN FORMATION AL
301. Fire Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Federal Emergency
Management Agency (FEMA) Projects Within The City.
Discussion ensued on this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush noted, "On Northern Way, right
across from Deer Run, there are a couple of piles that have been there for weeks." Fire
Chief Timothy J. Lallathin said, "We'll check it out." Furthermore, Mayor Bush
mentioned, "It is about where Deer Run tees into Northern Way and Swan [Street]."
INFORMATIONAL
302. Parks and Recreation Department
Notifying The City Commission That The Winter Springs, Seminole Cultural Arts
Council Application Requesting Funding For The Philharmonic Orchestra Was
Selected For Funding In The Amount Of $1,000.00.
Commissioner McGinnis congratulated the Parks and Recreation Department for being
awarded this Grant.
INFORMATIONAL
303. Public Works Department - Beautification Division - Parks And Recreation
Department
Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of National Urban And Community
Forestry Grant Program Applications.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
304. Information Services Department
Wishes To Update The Commission On The Status Of The I.T. (Information
Technology) Plan Created In FY (Fiscal Year) 2002.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
305. Finance Department
Wishes To Update The Commission On The City's Outstanding Debt As Requested
By Commissioner Blake At The September 27, 2004 Commission Meeting.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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INFORMATIONAL
306. Office Of The City Clerk
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Results Of The November 2, 2004
City Of Winter Springs Municipal Election.
No discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM '209' WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. .:..:.
CONSENT
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The Commission Adopt Resolution 2004-55, Establishing An
Economic Development Division Under The Office Of The City Manager.
Commissioner Blake said, "I do think it is a good idea for the City to have an Economic
Development effort, whether or not it should be a separate division of the City Manager's
Office or as I think was originally envisioned, be a part of the Community Development
Department - is something that needs to be brought back to us as well as the guidelines as
to how exactly that Division or Department, whichever it may be, would operate -
specifically as it pertains to Public Record Laws.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION - TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING
THIS BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING, WITH I THINK A MORE
APPROPRIATE APPROACH." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
400. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Aesthetic Review Of
The Barclay Woods Town House Units.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested that "When you do your Covenants, Restrictions, and
Conditions, that you would consider a Covenant that would require garage doors to be
kept shut when they are not in use."
Mr. John Reny, 641 North Maitland Avenue, Maitland, Florida: stated, "Sure,
absolutely, we are formulating those."
Discussion ensued on renderings for the back elevations of a couple of buildings being
discussed, and Commissioner Blake said, "You are referring to a wall. As I recall, the
drawing I have seen, didn't actually have a wall." Mr. Reny stated, "I apologize. It has
columns and a fence and landscaping." Discussion.
Tape I/Side B
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake suggested, "Even if maybe there is some
way to - wall in, to some extent, each of the back patio areas for each of these properties.
That might go a long way to actually provide some screening."
Additionally, Commissioner Blake said, "We really need something that is more solid
and opaque here; maybe the answer is changing the wall; changing it [rom being that
pillar with open fencing - to something that has brick or stone in it, or is more opaque."
Manager McLemore said, "What appears to be offensive even to me, is again the glass
doors on the back. My question would be, can that be reconfigured to look more like the
front entrance to the building, rather than these wide glass doors - to make it look like a
front porch, rather than a back porch?"
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Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I share Commissioner Blake's concern. I think a wall would
be one solution." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller suggested, "I am referring to lattice
on the screen enclosures, that way, whatever they have got inside, you really can't see it
when you drive by." Mr. Reny said, "Can I bring you back details on that screen
enclosure?" Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would go along with a good screen
enclosure that you can't see into it real easily, like maybe with lattice facing the street, or
even a lattice wall that has to be put so far from the screen." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor
Miller noted, "This is not in place of the brick wall I am referring to, but this would be
something where the people driving by, would not be able to see the screen enclosure,
because there is some kind of a privacy wall."
With further discussion, Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I do not like a wall - we
are becoming a community of walls and gates."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Anthony Marasco, 1311 Deer Run Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: thought a benn
might help this particular dilemma.
Mr. Byron GUtz 1001 Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested a wall was
necessary; thought that a screen enclosure around the patio should be mandatory; and
preferred French doors in lieu of screen doors.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Manager McLemore noted, "If these were French doors in the back, it would totally give
you another look. The second thing would be if there was some type of - bay window
type concept, would give you a totally different look. But the problem is not solvable as
long as you have sliding glass doors, in my opinion."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore spoke of problems with fences and suggested that
"You really need to just go ahead and put all the screens on now."
Mr. Reny advised the City Commission, "French doors, I could certainly change it to
French doors. If that is more appealing, I can change those to French doors, that is a non-
issue for me." Speaking further, Mr. Reny noted the fence material and said, "There is a
PVC (Polyvinyl Chloride) fence which we have real good luck with, that separates the
patios and that's what that back screen material would be. Also, it is maintenance free."
Mr. Reny added, "My fence around - that would be the west side - that is aluminum -
and in my front architecture. I am talking about just the fence - the little drawing that I
drew, behind the patios."
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Deputy Mayor Miller suggested, "If you put the French doors in, just mandate on that
building, those two (2) buildings facing the street, there will be no screen enclosures."
Mr. Reny said, "I guess I could do that in my Covenants. I would have to check with our
Attorney who is drawing them; if that is the case, I would do that." Manager McLemore
noted, "That would be a good solution."
With further discussion on the presented renderings, Commissioner Blake suggested,
"See how you have - the roof area coming out over the door entryway, going in - if
something like that could exist on a French door along the back side - I think that would
provide kind of a portico - an architectural element that makes it look other than what we
are seeing currently." Manager McLemore added, "Some detailing."
Mayor Bush next said, "I think the Commission has made their thoughts and wishes clear
here and - just needs time now to work with the [City] Manager and bring it back again."
Commissioner Blake added, "As the Mayor said, everybody is on board with this. I think
we have heard back from the - Manager to take the Commission's comments into
consideration and bring back the right solution." Manager McLemore asked, "Do you
want us to come back to you with it?" Commissioner Blake said, "Please." Deputy
Mayor Miller said, "I do." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Yes."
Mr. Reny then mentioned that "I have an Oviedo address and a City of Winter Springs
property." Mayor Bush suggested, "Talk to the Postmaster." Commissioner Blake
added, "The Postmaster is the one that controls that." Mr. Reny then said, "I will make
an appointment next week with you." Then, Mr. Reny explained, "I am going to add
French doors, and I am going to work on some detail above those French doors on those
three (3) center units." Mayor Bush added, "I think showing your landscaping in more
detail would be helpful too." Mr. Reny added, "Okay. I'll try to get my landscaping
overlaid onto my plans."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
500. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Decide Upon The Time When The 2004
Inauguration Ceremonies Should Be Held. Additionally, The City Commission Is
Also Being Asked To Consider And Approve The Information In This Agenda Item
Regarding Some Of The Details Planned For The Upcoming Inauguration
Ceremonies.
Discussion ensued on when Deputy Mayor Miller would be available for an Inauguration
Ceremony, as he would not be in town on the suggested December 6th, 2004 date.
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"I MOVE WE DO IT ON DECEMBER 6TH AT 6:30 P.M." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AND SAID,
"SO WE ARE NOT HAVING ANY SEPARATE EVENT FOR COMMISSIONER
MILLER?" COMMISSIONER GILMORE SAID, "DO HIS ON THE 13TH" [OF
DECEMBER, 2004]. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "ON THE 13TH" [OF
DECEMBER, 2004], RIGHT - PRIOR TO THE MEETING." CITY CLERK
LORENZO-LUACES THEN INQUIRED, "CAN WE DO A RECEPTION FOR
HIM [DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER] ALSO, OR NOT?" MAYOR BUSH SAID,
"ONE RECEPTION - HAVE SOME BETTER COOKIES FOR THAT ONE
[DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER'S INAUGURATION], ANDREA [LORENZO-
LUACES].
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE WHO
STATED, "LET'S DO IT AT 7 P.M., ON THE 6TH [OF DECEMBER, 2004]."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
First, Attorney Garganese noted that the "Trial regarding the Rural Area is November
16th at 9:30" [a.m.].
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Secondly, Attorney Garganese spoke of tomorrow's "Judicial Sale regarding the Wyman
Fields Units. They are going to be sold on the doorsteps of the Courthouse." Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY
ATTORNEY TOMORROW AT THE WYMAN FIELDS COURTHOUSE
AUCTION TO BID UP TO FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
($450,000.00), OF WHICH I UNDERSTAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FOUR
THOUSAND DOLLARS ($404,000.00) IS OUR JUDGEMENT AMOUNT, WHICH
PROVIDES FOR - A POTENTIAL OUT OF POCKET COST OF THE FORTY-
SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ($46,000.00) FOR THE FOUR (4) UNITS."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese then spoke on an Agreement related to the "Landings at Parkstone"
and noted that another Binding Development Agreement with the new Property Owner,
First Orlando Development Company, Inc. needs to be executed. Commissioner Blake
suggested that due caution be taken.
Discussion ensued on a possible revised Site Plan for this same project. Commissioner
Blake suggested, "If you have got to bring it back to us - and that is the appropriate thing
to do, but as long as you are doing that work, it might be advisable for Development Staff
to take a close look at whatever changes are going on there." With further discussion,
Attorney Garganese stated, "I'll look into it."
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore advised the City Commission about a recently settled Lawsuit
involving an employee and Workman's Compensation.
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Next, Manager McLemore noted Litigation related to two (2) issues involving the Fire
Union and said, "We have prevailed on both of those issues at the District Court Level."
Manager McLemore then mentioned that the City of Oviedo just approved a Resolution
"In favor of the County's Charter Amendment."
Discussion ensued next on Hurricane-related Compensation for the Senior Management
Team; and information was distributed relative to the extra hours worked during the
recent Hurricanes.
"IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE FRONT PAGE HERE, AT THE NORMAL
HOURS WORKED, THE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) OF COSTS, yoU
ARE LOOKING PROBABLY AT A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT $25,000.00
COST TO THE CITY - AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO
AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE THAT EXPENDITURE, FROM THE GENERAL
FUND." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "MY MOTION IS TO UTILIZE THE
NUMBERS THAT EXIST ON THIS SHEET, AND WHATEVER MATH IS
INVOL VED IN GROSSING IT UP." FURTHERMORE, COMMISSIONER
BLAKE SAID, "IT SHOULD END UP BEING SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE
OF $25,000.00 (TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS). IT MAY BE A
THOUSAND ($1,000.00) HIGHER, IT MAY BE A THOUSAND ($1,000.00)
LOWER. WHAT I AM AUTHORIZING OR MAKING A MOTION TO
AUTHORIZE IS THIS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) COST NUMBER
AND ANY OF THE OTHERS ARE STRAIGHT MATHEMATICAL
FORMULAS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Blake then said, "I thank everybody very much for their efforts."
Manager McLemore asked for feedback about the last Newsletter. With discussion,
Commissioner McGinnis said, "It looked great. The best ever!" Mayor Bush noted, "I
think that was the best Newsletter we have done." Commissioner McGinnis inquired,
"Who did the layout for that?" It was noted that Justin Edwards, WeblMultimedia
Technician, Information Services Department did the layout.
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Brief discussion followed on the Precinct results related to the County's Charter
Amendment.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces asked for clarification for the "Swearing in Ceremonies - is
the Commission in agreement that we would do the same things as we have done in the
past?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush stated, "Yes." No objections
were voiced.
Next, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted that Employee Service Awards will be given out
at the next [November 22,2004] City Commission Meeting.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces then said to the City Commission, "By Code - I am required
to get a Certificate of the recent Election with Certified Results from the Supervisor of
Elections; however, I have been informed that the Certified Results will not be available
until Friday of this week, so I will get them to you, as soon as possible, probably at the
next Commission Meeting."
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller
Deputy Mayor Miller noted an article by Mr. Robert Perez in Sunday's Orlando Sentinel
newspaper about Seminole County's Rural Boundary Amendment.
Secondly, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "The County sent a copy - on this new Myrtle
[Street] - I think all of us should read this and I would like Staff to come back at some
point and tell us how this is different."
Thirdly, Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of the School Rezoning issue and said, "I would like
to see what some of the other cities in Florida are doing in this regard - creative things
that we may not be aware of. I keep hearing about Impact Fees in certain areas." Deputy
Mayor Miller added, "I think we do need to look at this." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor
Miller suggested, "I would like to see somebody dig up some information on this; on
what other people are doing to address this."
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
Commissioner Blake offered congratulations to Commissioner Miller, Commissioner
Gilmore, and Commissioner-Elect Joanne M. Krebs and stated, "Looking forward to
working with all of you."
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The upcoming Florida League of Cities Legislative Conference and a Growth
Management Workshop was then mentioned by Commissioner Blake.
Commissioner Blake then commented on Brighthouse's new Digital Phone Service and
said to Manager McLemore, "Do we have something in place to make sure that the
Communication Services Taxes are being billed appropriately with them?"
Commissioner Blake added, "Also, we need to - take a careful look at how they are
bundling charges. We are not able to actually apply that tax to any Internet charges - are
they going to have some creative packaging where they are actually shifting some of the
costs from one service to another, and avoiding some of those taxes?"
Next, Commissioner Blake mentioned that resident "Medford McCoy was talking to me
about the interest that appears to exist with residents of the Winding Hollow subdivision
to change out their streetlighting. Currently, they have the concrete poles and the Cobra
fixtures and they would like to upgrade to fixtures somewhat similar to what exists in the
Town Center. And with 392 households, there is really, I think the only right method to
use to do something like that is to put in place a Benefit District. And, I would like to ask
you to meet with Mr. McCoy and start working out the details of what needs to be done
in order to first off, determine whether or not the community truly desires this; and then
secondly, if it does, to start moving in that direction and get the District put in place, if
that is what we need." Manager McLemore said, "No problem."
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore remarked that at the last Meeting, "Item '505' - dumpsters, and
the garbage pick-up leaving trash cans and that out, was supposed to have been brought
back at this Meeting, according to the Minutes." Commissioner Gilmore added, "When
is this coming back?" Manager McLemore responded, "We will try to get it back to you
at the next Meeting."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore also mentioned that while out campaigning, they received
requests for different streetlighting.
Commissioner Gilmore then noted the recent Election and stated, "I appreciate the
support - and promise that I will support the citizens of Winter Springs."
For Commissioner Gilmore's last Report of the evening, Commissioner Gilmore
mentioned that the Winter Springs Police Department asked that he have a foursome in
an upcoming Police Explorers Golf Tournament. Commissioner Gilmore asked Chief of
Police Daniel J. Kerr to speak for the record on this Tournament.
Chief Kerr then spoke about this Tournament and other related events.
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REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis suggested that the City Commission attend the upcoming
December CALNO [Council of Local Governments in Seminole County] Meeting which
is being hosted by the City of Winter Springs, and said, "I would like to see - strong
support from the Commission."
Next, Commissioner McGinnis asked Mayor Bush to send an "Official Letter to the
School Board and explain to them why no one from the City will be at the Dedication of
Layer School." Mayor Bush responded by saying, "Yes."
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607. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Absent.
REPORTS
608. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned he had received a letter from the Honorable Gary Bender,
Chairman of CALNO [Council of Local Governments in Seminole County]
recommending the "Reappointment of Commissioner Art Woodruff from the City of
Sanford to the Seminole County Expressway Authority. According to Florida Statutes, a
majority of the Municipalities must approve this recommendation so they are asking that
we approve Mr. Woodruffs Reappointment officially. Can we have a Motion?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on a Farewell event for Commissioners who are leaving Office, and
Mayor Bush explained we needed some direction form the Commission "On how we
approach this, not only for Commissioner McLeod, but also for future people who are
leaving the Commission."
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Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I would certainly be in favor of doing something, be it a
luncheon..." Mayor Bush noted, "...I don't think anybody is objecting that we have - a
nice event for someone who is leaving, but my comment was that - we should ask the
person what they would like." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Or a reception - ask
him, but give him some options when you ask." Furthermore, Mayor Bush remarked,
"Yes, that is what I am saying, let him kind of decide what he would like." Mayor Bush
then said to the City Commission, "Is everybody in agreement with that, that Andrea
[Lorenzo-Luaces] will just talk to Dave [McLeod] about it?" Deputy Mayor Miller said,
"Sure." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Yes." Commissioner Gilmore nodded
affirmatively. No objections were noted.
Mayor Bush then suggested, "I would like to see the Commission name a street in the
City after Commissioner McLeod - I would like to see it in Dunmar Estates." Mayor
Bush further noted, "We would name a street in Dunmar Estates after Commissioner
McLeod." Commissioner Blake added, "We need to check and make sure that it is okay
with 9-1-1 records, right?" Deputy Mayor Miller added, "Why don't you do that. Let us
know at the next Meeting." Mayor Bush noted, "I think it would be nice to do it without
Commissioner McLeod here." With further discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller said to
Attorney Garganese, "Bring it back Anthony [Garganese]. Make it so." In conclusion on
this Agenda Item, Mayor Bush summarized, "The Commission is all in agreement that
we look into naming a street after Commissioner McLeod, in hopefully Dunmar Estates."
Next, Mayor Bush explained that the Mayor of Oviedo had called him about the recent
action that the City of Oviedo took, against the City of Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush mentioned to Manager McLemore about a Questionnaire from the Florida
Department of Transportation that needed to be completed.
Lastly, Mayor Bush noted that "On Northern Way - debris is still there." Mr. Lockcuff
stated, "We'll check it out." Manager McLemore added, "Near this Barber Shop."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS
DISCUSSED, AS DOCUMENTED .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller
Deputy Mayor Miller added, "There is some talk in the County about people who have
left the boards on their windows - removing them. I think we need to look at that."
Deputy Mayor Miller explained further, "It is a safety issue." Additionally, Deputy
Mayor Miller said, "I think we might want to look at that from a Code Enforcement
standpoint. "
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Mayor Bush spoke briefly about the newly elected Officials and congratulated them.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at approximately 8:50 p.m.
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the November 22, 2004 Regular City Commission Meeting.