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DECEMBER 10, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, December 10, 2007 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived via telephone at 5: 15 p.m.
Commissioner Rick Brown, absent
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5: 17 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Not Used.
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INFORMATIONAL
102. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Advising The City Commission On A Recent Upgrade Of The City's Community
Class Rating Under The National Flood Insurance Program's Community Rating
System.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 5: 17 p.m.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The November 26, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The November 29, 2007 Emergency Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization For BDR (Beck Disaster Recovery, Inc.) To Prepare A
FEMA 325 Complaint Disaster Debris Management Plan.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
203. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization For The City Manager To Execute (2) Two Wall
Easement Agreements Necessary For Construction Of A Wall Extension For The
Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
204. Police Department
Requests The Commission To Approve The Expenditure Of Budgeted Funds From
The 2007-2008 Fiscal Year Budget. The Requested Amount Will Be Used To
Provide Wireless Air Card Service For The Police Departments Laptop Computers.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 5, 2007 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The December 6, 2007 Emergency Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
207. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
ADD ON
Requesting Permission From The City Commission For The City Manager To Enter
Into A Contract With J. Raymond Construction For The Construction Of Sidewalk
Improvements In Front Of Building 4 In The Town Center At A Cost Of $73,552.00.
Brief discussion ensued with Manager McLemore.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE" CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation Of Employee Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs
Employees.
With assistance from the City Commission, Mayor Bush and Manager McLemore
presented Employee Recognition A wards to the following Employees who were in
attendance:
5 Years Of Service:
Mr, Thomas Padgett, Police Department.
10 Years Of Service:
Mr. Darrell Brewer, Police Department; Mr. Brad Dula, Fire Department. and Mr,
David Smith, Police Department.
15 Years Of Service:
Mr. JeflMcCall, Fire Department; and Mr, James Reilley, Fire Department.
20 Years Of Service:
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Information Serviccs Department; Mr. Robert Cable, Policc
Departmcnt; Mr, Forrest Askcw, Utility Dcpartment; and Mr, Pcte Wiggins, Public
Works Department.
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25 Years Of Service:
Mr. Bob Beck, Fire Department.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Absent.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore spoke on the Holiday Pops Concert and stated, "The
wonderful job that the City Staff did." Commissioner Gilmore added, "It was truly a
wonderful event for the citizens of Winter Springs." Commissioner Gilmore then said,
"Personally, I want to congratulate everybody that had a hand in it."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis mentioned that the pergola near the Bank needs attention
due to mold and rust.
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Next, Deputy Mayor McGinnis wished everyone a Happy New Year.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT CHARLES LACEY" TO THE PLANNING AND
ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs then asked how it was going with Bart Phillips regarding
the Trail issue. With brief discussion on revised plans, Manager McLemore stated, "We
would hope in January we would get this back to you for at least the first cut at - what
you may want to do."
REPORTS
407. Office Of The Mayor-John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned that SeminoleWay would be discussed tomorrow at the Seminole
County Commission Meeting.
Secondly, Mayor Bush remarked about the successful Holiday Pops Concert and
suggested we get the attendance numbers up.
Thirdly, Mayor Bush noted that the sidewalks were breaking up on Trotwood Boulevard
in front of the Water Treatment Plant.
Next, Mayor Bush asked when the approval for the Grill at the Tuscawilla Country Club
would be ready? Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community
Development Department stated, "I will have someone get back with you tomorrow."
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned a possible applicant (Mr. Ben Hill) to serve on a City
Board and that he had been sent an Application.
Discussion followed on the SeminoleWay project.
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REPORTS
408. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: gave a letter
for the Record to the City to be distributed to the City Commission.
Mr. Darryl Thomas, 104 Windsor Crescent Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on issues related to parking in his subdivision of Parkstone and neighbors calling in to
report parked cars.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked
Commissioner Krebs and the City Commission for the Appointment to the Planning and
Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency; and commented on working with the City on
upcoming dates involving the Oviedo-Winter Springs Chamber of Commerce.
Mr. Lacey asked who his point of contact should be? Mayor Bush said the City Manager
and to "cc: the Clerk - and the Mayor."
Discussion followed on upcoming events.
On the proposed Arts Festival, Commissioner Krebs asked if Manager McLemore could
send a letter on what procedures should be followed. Manager McLemore stated, "I
would be more than happy to do that."
Ms. Vanessa McCartney, 896 Benchwood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on the on-street parking issue and noted that she did not think permission was needed.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle. Winter Springs. Florida: wished the City
Commission Happy Holidays and gave a document to the City related to events which
could possibly off-set the costs of the Dog Park.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Community Development Department - Planning Division
At The Request Of Engineered Homes Of Central Florida And Keewin Real
Property Company Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For
Second Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-25, Which Changes The Zoning
Designation Of Four Parcels Associated With The Winter Place Development And
Which Equal 9.862 Acres More Or Less, Located At Florida Avenue And Lake
Lucerne Circle From (Winter Springs) "C-2 (General Commercial)" To (Winter
Springs) "PUD (Planned Unit Development)". The Approval Of This Request Will
Result In All Of The Keewin Parcels Having A PUD (Planned Unit Development)
Designation, As Needed To Move The Winter Place Development Forward.
(Approval Of The Concept Plan For Winter Place Was Granted By The City
Commission On July 23, 2007.J
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion o.lthe Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o.f the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" ORDINANCE 2007-25. MOTION BY DEPUTY
MA YOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney
Present Ordinance Number 2007-29 For Second Reading And Final Adoption. Said
Ordinance Amends Chapter 20, Article IV, Division 2, Part A Planned Unit
Development To Modify The Definition Of Gross Residential Acre And Authorize
The City Commission To Approve Mixed Residential PUDs (Planned Unit
Developments ).
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Discussion.
Tape I/Side B
Further discussion.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission on density.
Discussion ensued on a garden apartment definition.
Mayor Bush summarized that "The Comp[ rehensive] Plan right now says that our
Density is based on gross acres..." Mr. Stevenson stated, "...Correct..." Mayor Bush
continued, ".., So, Developers who are coming to us now are looking at our
Comp[rehensive] Plan and that is how they are filing their Applications."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore asked about height - to which Mr. Stevenson said, "I can
find out for you."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion o./the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o/the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2007-29 AS
PRESENTED, WITHOUT EXCLUDING WETLANDS FROM GROSS ACRES."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The Commission Consider A PUD (Planned Unit Development) Master
Plan, Preliminary Development Plan, And Preliminary Engineering/Subdivision
Plan For A 338 Unit Development On Approximately 47.09 Acres, Located On The
South Side Of Shepard Road, North Of Florida Avenue, East Of Boat Lake, And
Immediately Adjacent To The West Side Of The Wildwood Residential PUD
(Planned Unit Development).
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced
this Agenda Item.
Mr. David Evans, Evans Engineering, 719 Irma Avenue, Orlando, Florida: addressed
the City Commission on this project and stated, "The reason for the wall being there is
not to create anything different than what we originally proposed based on the buffer to
the Industrial area; but it's to create a little more space so we could have a walkway
through there."
Continuing, Mr. Evans noted, "It is not a stark eleven foot (11') wall, barren. We expect
that to be a - treated wall. We were thinking about using the same type of wall as barrier
walls they use on the side of the expressways. Those are pre-cast slabs that are inserted
into pylons. They're decorative, they have a texture to them. They're not painted so you
don't have to maintain them. They have their own color concrete."
Furthermore, Mr. Evans explained, "It's a wall that will work effectively on that side;
buffer the Industrial area; but then also give us that walkway, pathway on our side of the
wall as well, with landscaping."
Commissioner Krebs noted, "There was a mention about affordable homes. How are you
going to do that?" Mr. Evans responded by saying, "The key word here is attainable."
Furthermore, Mr. Evans remarked, "This product itself lends itself to attainability or
affordability based on the fact that some of the units are smaller and some of the units are
larger. "
Further discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion followed on the proposed wall.
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Mr. Evans suggested, "In the areas where we have width, why don't we - soften the wall
with some berm, here - in this area here, and work with Staff to come up with a plan that
gives you some elevation differences through the wall in the areas where it's narrow, you
will have landscaping. In the areas where you have width, you will have a berm up next
to the wall on a side and eliminate the maintenance problems." Mr. Evans added, "Part
of the areas would have berm, part ofthe areas would be wall."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Daryl Thomas, 104 Windsor Crescent Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on berms and trees.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Further discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION - THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEM '502' AS
PROPOSED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. COMMISSIONER
GILMORE ADDED, "WITH THE BERM, WITH THE ELEVEN FOOT (11 ')
WALL AND A DIRT BERM BUILT UP ALONG THE INSIDE OF THE WALL
ON THE PROPERTY SIDE." MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "DOES YOUR MOTION
ALSO INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PAGE 9?"
COMMISSIONER GILMORE RESPONDED, "YES." SECONDED BY DEPUTY
MA YOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON NOTED, "WITH THE BERM BUILT UP ON THE WALL,
AND THE WIDER SECTIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THE WALKWAY AND
THEN WHERE IT PINCHES DOWN WOULD BE THE WALL WITH
LANDSCAPING?" COMMISSIONER GILMORE COMMENTED, "YES."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "TO THA T MOTION I WOULD
RECOMMEND A COUPLE OF OTHER CONDITIONS. THIS APPROVAL HAS
TO BE SUBJECT TO ORDINANCE 2007-25, 2007-29 BECOMING EFFECTIVE
AND THEN PURSUANT TO 2007-29, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
WOULD HAVE TO ENTERED INTO TO SET THE DENSITY. SO, I WOULD
ADD THOSE AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL." COMMISSIONER
GILMORE NODDED IN AGREEMENT.
MA YOR BUSH THEN SAID, "FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION
THEN WITH ANTHONY'S (GARGAN ESE) COMMENTS?"
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance 2007-30, Amending The Text Of Section 20-323. Of The
City's Code Of Ordinances, To Include Bridal Shops; Hair, Nail And Tanning
Salons; Museums And/Or Cultural Institutions; And Reception Facilities As
Permitted Uses Within The Town Center.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion olthe Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2007-30." MOTION. MA YOR BUSH
REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
For The Hayes Road Plaza, Located On The Southwest Corner Of SR (State Road)
434 And Hayes Road.
Mr. Baker spoke on this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller stated, "I would like to suggest that this item be referred
to our City's Architect maybe for review to see how it fits in with the area. The way it is
presented causes me some concerns." Commissioner Miller further noted, "The face of
the building fronting [State Road] 434 is a long low-lying building with very little
defini tion."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller then said, "In my opinion, this building needs to be
rehashed somehow." Additionally, Commissioner Miller pointed out, "I am not saying
that it is not attractive the way it is, it is just that the building is very long, very low, and
has very little definition in terms of height."
With further comments, Commissioner Miller stated, "I would really like to see some
height maybe put into it."
Manager McLemore stated, "I think I understand what the issue is and if you want to give
it back to us, we'll sit down with the Architect and see if we can come up with some
suggestions. "
Commissioner Krebs remarked, "1 do agree with Commissioner Miller and actually what
I wrote down was it really lacks, this is my opinion, interest. It really has not a lot of
dimension to it."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o.lthe Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REFER THIS BACK TO THE CITY STAFF
AND ASK THEM TO ENGAGE THE CITY'S ARCHITECT TO REVIEW IT
WITH THE DEVELOPER TO SEE IF IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE
ALONG THE LINES AS PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
506. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Adopt On Second Reading Ordinance Number
2007-31 Regarding The Procedure Set Forth In Section 17-27. Of The City Code For
Vacating And Abandoning Streets And Alleys.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion o.fthe Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o.fthe Agenda Item.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL" OF ORDINANCE 2007-31. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
507. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests The City Commission Approve On First Reading Ordinance 2007-32
Which Amends Chapter 8 - Flood Damage Prevention.
Mayor Bush said, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side B
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLE.R: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mr. Fields explained, "This is really an administrative change. It is not a Policy change
to Chapter 8."
Brief discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item,
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion olthe Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO ADOPT [ORDINANCE] 2007-32." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH COMMENTED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:40 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7:52 p.m.
Tape 3/Side A
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600.1. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Receive The Draft Fire Assessment Study Report
From Governmental Services Group.
Manager McLemore said, "[Agenda Item] '600.1' is going to take a lot of time. I think
we need to Workshop this. I would like to ask for a date that we could Workshop
[Agenda Item] 600.1. Maybe the first Monday in January?"
Mayor Bush said, "Can we do this Meeting some time this week Commissioners?"
Manager McLemore said, "Our Consultants will not be available."
Manager McLemore added, "If you are coming in on Monday anyhow, why not have an
earlier Meeting and knock them both out?" Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Good."
Mayor Bush said, "You think we can really do it that way though?" Mayor Bush said,
"The ih [January 2008]." Manager McLemore added, "The first Monday in January."
Commissioner Krebs said, "Fine." Manager McLemore said, "Five 0' clock." Deputy
Mayor McGinnis said, "I like that."
Mayor Bush stated, "Can I have a Motion to Table [ Agenda] Item 600.1 to move it to the
Meeting on the 7th [January 2008] at 5:00 p.m.?"
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS TO MOVE THIS ITEM ['600.1'1
TO MONDAY, JANUARY THE 7TH [2008] AT 5:00 P.M."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
600.2 Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Approve Resolution 2007-50 To Adopt The City Of
Winter Springs' Intent To Bill And Collect Fire Assessment Fees Via The Tax Rolls
Commencing In FY (Fiscal Year) 2008.
Manager McLemore briefly spoke on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
[AGENDA ITEMI '600.2'." MOTION BY
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Casa Park
Homeowner's Association To Remove (1) Specimen Tree Located In The Common
Area Adjacent To 1301 Park Villa Place.
Mr. Mike Mingea, City Arborist, Community Development Department presented this
Agenda Item and displayed photographs of the Specimen Tree,
Discussion,
Ms. Daisy Johannson, 1100 Michigan Court. Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
Commission on this issue,
Much discussion,
Commissioner Krebs said, "I think every effort should be made where possible to save
the tree,"
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "If we take the recommendation of Staff, would a letter go
to the HOA [Homeowner's Association] signed by, say our Arborist?" Mayor Bush said,
"My question to the Attorney here, can the Commission require them, the Homeowner
Association to do what Mike [Mingea] is suggesting?"
Attorney Garganese said, "Well, I think that is between the property owner and the
Homeowner's Association, The Commission's role tonight is to approve or deny the
Request to take the tree down. If you deny the Request, one can only assume that the
property owner will go back to the HOA [Homeowner's Association] to try to resolve
this matter."
Further discussion.
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"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said, "Get with the Clerk tomorrow or whenever. Maybe Andrea [Lorenzo-
Luaces], you can get a hold of her when you have got the Minutes ready so she can have
this information to take back to her Homeowner's Association."
Attorney Garganese mentioned that, "Removing a Specimen Tree like this without a
permit, 1 guess the Fine is probably going to be about fifty five hundred dollars
($5,500.00) at a minimum, and that doesn't even include all the remediation work that
would have to be done." Commissioner Krebs said, "1 think they can fine them for more
than that, can't they?" Attorney Garganese said, "Plus the remediation work and the Fine
for the removal. It would be a very, very large penalty."
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602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Determine What, If Any, Level Of Funding
The Commission Desires To Grant To Meals On Wheels For FY (Fiscal Year) (20')
08.
Brief discussion.
"I WILL MOVE THAT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS
($5,000.00) FOR MEALS ON WHEELS BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS,"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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603. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That The City Commission Consider Nominating The Next
Deputy Mayor As Stipulated In The Charter Of The City Of Winter Springs,
Consistent With Actions In The Past.
Mayor Bush said, "On [Agenda Item] '603' - Deputy Mayor, Mr. [Rick] Brown has a
Memo here to the Clerk requesting that this be delayed until he can be here."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I appreciate the fact that he is not here, but 1 am ready to
make a Motion." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "I am ready to move forward."
"THIS IS COMMISSIONER MILLER'S LAST YEAR - FOR THIS FINAL
TERM AND IF HE IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION, I WOULD
LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER MILLER FOR DEPUTY MAYOR
FOR - HIS LAST YEAR." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "I APPRECIATE YOUR NOMINATION,
BUT I WOULD RATHER DEFER WITH THAT. IF NO ONE ELSE WILL RUN,
I WILL ACCEPT THE HONOR RETICENTLY BUT I WOULD NOT SECOND
IT AT THIS POINT."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT DON GILMORE BE
DEPUTY MAYOR." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER GILMORE." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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604. Police Department - Code Enforcement Bureau
In Conjunction With The Community Development Department Requests The
Commission Review Alternatives And Provide Direction Regarding A Proposed On-
Street Parking Program.
Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department addressed the City Commission on this
Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I would definitely support 'Option 2'. 1 will not support
'Option 1', and 1 will not support 'Option 3'."
Further discussion.
Commissioner Krebs said, "I would also support Number '~'. 1 don't think six (6)
months, six (6) months might not be long enough. 1 like your suggestion, Commissioner
McGinnis, nine (9) months."
Mr. Brian Fields, City Engineer, Public Works Department spoke about on-street
parking.
Much discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT - 'Option 2', UNDER [AGENDA] ITEM
'604'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "SIX (6) OR NINE (9) MONTHS." COMMISSIONER
KREBS SAID, "I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT NINE (9) MONTHS? IF THAT IS A
PROBLEM, THEN SOMEONE CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT. BUT, I JUST
DON'T THINK SIX (6) MONTHS, BY THE TIME YOU GET IT
IMPLEMENTED. I THINK - IT IS GOING TO BE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE
PEOPLE REALIZE - AND YOU WOULD NEED A GOOD SIX (6) MONTHS TO
TEST IT."
MAYOR BUSH THEN ADDED, "THIS MOTION, IN HERE IT SAYS, ON
SELECTED NEIGHBORHOODS." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID,
"CORRECT." MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "HAS THE COMMISSION SELECTED
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS?" COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "WE DID.
WE ALREADY DID." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "THE ONES YOU MENTIONED,
MT. GREENWOOD, OAK FOREST AND..."
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CAPTAIN TOLLESON ADDED, "...MT. GREENWOOD, AND THE OLD
TOWNSITES, WHICH IS WEST OF EDGEMON [AVENUE]; AND IF THERE
ARE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WOULD APPROACH US, IF I
COULD HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY TO ADD THEM."
MAYOR BUSH THEN ADDED, "DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE IN
YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER KREBS, THE THREE (3) THAT HE JUST
MENTIONED..." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "...JUST THAT HE
MENTIONED - AT THE DISCRETION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS
FAR AS THEIR KNOWLEDGE - TO THE PROBLEM AREAS."
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "I WOULD LIKE TO INSERT AFTER THE-
COMMISSION APPROVES SITE SPECIFIC PARKING ZONES; AND I
WOULD LIKE TO INSERT AFTER '4.', 'HOA' [HOMEOWNER'S
ASSOCIATION]. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SO, YOU ARE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION?" COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "CORRECT - HOA'S.
[HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIA TIONj."
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "COMMISSIONER MILLER MADE A MOTION I
THINK TO ONLY THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE HOA'S [HOMEOWNER'S
ASSOCIATION)." COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "THAT IS CORRECT."
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "MY ONL Y RECOMMENDATION IS THAT
THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY RESOLUTION OF THE
COMMISSION, WHICH WE CAN BRING BACK AFTER YOUR FIRST
MEETING IN JANUARY AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF COMMISSIONER
KREBS' COMMENT. THERE IS A CODE AND IT PERMITS THE
COMMISSION TO DO THIS SORT OF THING BY RESOLUTION SO, I THINK
WE NEED TO STICK BY THE LAW." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID,
"THAT IS GOOD."
DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR BUSH SAID, "SO, COMMISSIONER KREBS, WITH THE ONE
MODIFICA TION THAT ANTHONY [GARGANESE] HAS BROUGHT UP, YOU
HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT?" COMMISSIONER KREBS
RESPONDED, "NO." MAYOR BUSH THEN NOTED, "AND THE SECOND HAS
NO PROBLEM? ANYTHING ELSE ANTHONY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE
INCLUDED IN THAT, AT THIS POINT?" NO OBJECTIONS WERE MADE.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "NO. I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TO
GO BY AND BRING IT BACK."
MANAGER McLEMORE REMARKED, "THE WAY I ENVISION THIS IS,
THAT WE WOULD SEND OUT A LETTER TO EACH HOMEOWNER IN
EACH OF THESE AREAS, JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE ARE DOING
WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A MAP OF THE AREA, THE TIME AND ALL
THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON."
CAPTAIN TOLLESON COMMENTED, "YES."
FURTHERMORE, MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "BEFORE WE DO THAT,
WE LOOK AT ALL THE STREETS AND SEE WHICH ONE HAS TO HAVE A
CERTAIN PATTERN OF PARKING, SO THEY'RE FULLY INFORMED AND
THEY KNOW THAT IT'S A TEMPORARY THING - THEN NOT MUCH
LA TER, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY CAN COME IN
TO SAY WHAT THEY LIKE OR WHAT THEY DISLIKE ABOUT IT AND
THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT COMING DOWN." DISCUSSION.
MA YOR BUSH ADDED, "ONE OTHER THING TO CLEAR IT UP,
ESPECIALL Y - P ARKSTONE, THEIR HOA [HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION]
SAYS THEY CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET, IS THAT CORRECT?"
CAPTAIN TOLLESON SAID, "THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD THOUGHT
WHEN I REVIEWED IT ." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "IF THEY WANT THE
WINTER SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT, THEN THEY
WOULD NEED TO PAY FOR IT." CAPTAIN TOLLESON SAID, "THAT'S
CORRECT ."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Regarding parking on the street, Commissioner Krebs asked Attorney Garganese, "In that
Ordinance, did it say that we could suspend the parking on the street during a period of
time? How do we do that?" Attorney Garganese said, "By Resolution, You can suspend
the parking requirement, for emergency special events or some other public purpose."
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SUSPEND THE ORDINANCE ON PARKING
ON THE STREETS - DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON EFFECTIVE NOW
UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. LET US JUST SAY JANUARY 3RD,
2008." DISCUSSION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "STARTING DECEMBER 11, 2007
UNTIL JANUARY 3, 2008." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "ONE TECHNICAL ISSUE THERE THAT
GLENN (TOLLESON) BROUGHT UP, NOT ALL STREETS WILL SUPPORT
PARKING ON THE STREET." CAPTAIN TOLLESON SAID, "CORRECT.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT EVEN WITH A SUSPENSION
BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST THOSE AREAS WHERE THE
STREET DOESN'T HAVE A CLEAR SAFETY ISSUE."
COMMISSIONER GILMORE SAID, "I MODIFY MY MOTION - ON ALL
STREETS EXCEPT THOSE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DEEM
UNSAFE FOR PARKING." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "COMMISSIONER KREBS
SECONDED THAT MOTION. OKAY WITH YOU COMMISSIONER? FROM
DECEMBER 11TH [2007] THROUGH - AND INCLUSIVE JANUARY 3RD [2008]."
COMMISSIONER GILMORE SAID, "I WILL GO UNTIL JANUARY 5TH, [2008)
IF I MAY, THAT IS SATURDAY NIGHT."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "SINCE THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE BY
RESOLUTION, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DRAFTING THAT FOR YOUR
SIGNATURE, BUT, I THINK WE NEED TO GET - SOME CLEAR DIRECTION
BECAUSE AS GLENN [TOLLESON) SAID, THERE ARE SOME STREETS
THAT DON'T SUPPORT IT. BACK IN JULY, JULY 23RD, 2007, STAFF PUT
TOGETHER A DETAILED LIST WHERE NO PARKING IS ALLOWED OR
NOT RECOMMENDED AND YOU MAY WANT TO ADOPT THAT LIST FOR
SAFETY PURPOSES. FOR EXAMPLE, ARTERIAL STREETS, NO PARKING
ALLOWED."
II
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COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "I WILL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION TO INCLUDE - TO ADOPT THE..." ATTORNEY GARGANESE
SAID, "...THE RECOMMENDATION BACK IN - JULY 23, 2007 WHERE THE
STAFF RECOMMENDED CERTAIN STREETS NOT SUPPORT ON-STREET
PARKING." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "AND A LIST OF THOSE
STREETS. GLENN [TOLLESON], CAN WE PUT THIS UP ON THE WEBSITE
SO THAT..." CAPTAIN TOLLESON SAID, "...YES."
DISCUSSION.
"AND THAT IS MY AMENDMENT." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION)
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
For Clarification, Attorney Garganese asked, "That was until January 5th, [2008]."
Mayor Bush said, "Inclusive January 5th [2008]."
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605. Office Of The City Attorney
ADD-ON
Requests The City Commission To Authorize The Filing Of A Notice Of Default
And Claim Against Lexon Insurance Surety Bond No: 1003690, Ensuring The
Completion Of Work For Subdivision Improvements In Jesup's Reserve
Subdivision.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '605'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS.
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "I NEED TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR
ATTENTION THAT'S APPLICABLE TO BOTH ITEMS '605' AND '606' THAT
IS NOT STATED IN THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT WE NOW HAVE - A LIST OF
CURRENT LIENS ON THE PROPERTY WHICH DOES AFFECT SOME OF
THE COMMON AREAS THAT MAY IMPACT SOME OF OUR CLAIM; AND
WE WANT TO INCLUDE AT OUR DISCRETION - SOME OF THOSE LIENS
AS PART OF THE DEMAND ON THE SURETY TO ACTUALLY PAY OFF
SOME OF THOSE LIENS FOR WORK THAT WAS PERFORMED BUT NOT
PAID FOR; SO, THE LIST KEEPS GROWING ON A WEEKLY BASIS
BECAUSE OF UNPAID CONTRACTORS. BUT, I WANT TO BRING THAT TO
YOUR ATTENTION, SO ITEMS '605' AND '606' TO THE EXTENT
NECESSARY WILL INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR PAYMENT OF
OUTSTANDING LIENS."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
Commissioner Miller concluded his call at approximately 9: 12 p. m.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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606. Office Of The City Attorney
ADD-ON
Requests The City Commission To Authorize The Filing Of A Notice Of Default
And Claim Against National Union Fire Insurance Company Of Pittsburgh Surety
Bond No: 948843, Ensuring The Maintenance For Construction Defects Relating To
Improvements Of Potable Water, Sanitary Sewer, And Storm And Roadway
Facilities In Jesup's Reserve Subdivision.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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In other City business, Manager McLemore spoke on some alternative Investments and
explained, "If you recall, we asked or we decided to go back to one of our Consultant's,
Mr. Bogdahn [Consulting, LLC] - Bogdahn's [Consulting, LLC] Group to come up and
identify some alternative temporary Investment options and so this came in well after we
were already underway, so in order to keep from having another Meeting, if you will
agree to this and agree to let me sit down with Bogdahn [Consulting, LLC] and pick
which one of these three (3)."
"I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO WORK WITH
BOGDAHN [CONSULTING, LLC] TO MAKE THE DECISION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9: 17 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
AN A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
/Y-~ ~4~
R JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes wrre approved at the January 14,2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.