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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
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CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 23, 2002
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 23, 2002 of the City Commission was
called to order by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of
the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 6:33 p.m.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A Moment of Silence preceded the Pledge Of Allegiance. Agenda Changes were then
discussed with City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese who stated, "Consent Item 'B,' the
Agreement with Cox Radio for the 4th of July Event, we just need to make a few more
revisions to that contract and we will bring it back to you at the your next Meeting - so
pull it for this evening."
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 6:33 p.m.
II. PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. John MacHaffie, 141 Partridge Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: handed out
documents and commented on a possible Code Enforcement violation involving a boat on
his property.
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" and asked ~r this case had gone to the
Code Enforcement Board.
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Captain Glenn Tolleson, Winter Springs Police Department briefly addressed the City
Commission regarding this matter.
With discussion, Mayor Partyka advised Mr. MacHaffie that "You have to defend your
case at the Code Enforcement Board."
Mr. Albert Murro, 632 Cheoy Lee Circle. Winter Springs, Florida: advised the City
Commission about noise and alleged damage at his residence related to nearby
construction and asked the Commission "What can we do?"
With discussion, Manager McLemore spoke of the construction and possible alternatives.
Mayor Partyka asked Manager McLemore, "Is there something that they can do as
homeowners to claim any kind of damages or file something? What would the process
be on something like that?" Manager McLemore responded, "It is a Civil matter between
them and the Contractor." Mayor Partyka added, "So, they could just write a letter and
notify them that they are claiming damages?" Manager McLemore stated, "Absolutely,
that is where they start." Commissioner Miller then said, "I would like to see us do
everything we can to help stop the problem from becoming severe." Manager McLemore
spoke of his concerns and added, "The Building Official has been instructed to go out and
talk with the Superintendent and witness the results of the compaction test and if it looks
like we don't have a good situation, then we have to go to the next step."
Mayor Partyka advised Mr. Murro that "The City Manager I think understands your
position so - it is safe to say nothing is going to happen until it gets resolved from his
standpoint." Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. suggested that Mr. Murro, "Go home
and prepare a letter and send it Registered Mail, Receipt Requested to the Developer,
advising him of the damages that they are causing to your property - and this way you
are on record."
Mr. Michael Tackaberry, 634 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about
the lighting for the Tuskawilla Office Park.
Manager McLemore was asked if he knew what size the lights will be. Manager
McLemore stated, "I don't remember - be happy to look at it." Mayor Partyka said to
Mr. Tackaberry, "We will get an answer on that."
Mr. Brian Oliver, 630 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the Mayor
and City Commission for appointing him to the City's new Tree (Arbor) Ordinance
Review Advisory Committee. Mr. Oliver also spoke of his concerns with drainage;
standing water; and asked when the Developer would be on their side of the wall.
Mayor Partyka pointed out that "I believe the City Manager is going to note all those
things" and speak with the Superintendent tomorrow.
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Mr. Corey Green, : as the President of the
Winter Springs Professional Firefighters, Mr. Green asked when the Commission could
meet with his organization to discuss their Contract.
Commissioner Blake stated, "I would request we don't do it during a Regular Meeting - I
would think a Special Meeting would be in order."
With discussion, Mayor Partyka stated, "This Meeting is going to be strictly on the Fire
Department issue and it will be at 6:30 p.m. on Tuesday, the 29th" of October. Manager
McLemore added, "It is a Special Meeting."
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS
MEETING)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The Approval
Of Resolution Number 2002-32, Which Establishes The Final Millage For Fiscal
Year 2002-2003 For The City Of Winter Springs At 4.1658 Which Is 15.58% Above
The Rolled-Back Rate Of 3.6043.
Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell spoke for the record about sufficient reserves and a
possible Millage Rate increase.
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese stated, "Florida law requires that the City of Winter Springs as all
taxing authorities publicly announce certain items in this Resolution, so I am going to go
ahead and read the Resolution by 'Title. ",
Attorney Garganese read the Resolution by "Title."
"MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2002-32." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The Approval
Of:
. Resolution Number 2002-33, Establishing The Final Budget For Fiscal Year
2002-2003.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 'B,' RESOLUTION NUMBER 2002-33
EST ABLISHING THE FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
IV. REGULAR - PART I (CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER
9,2002 REGULAR MEETING)
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C. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Reconsider Information About Boat Docks.
"I MOVE TO RESCIND THE PREVIOUS MOTION." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
Tape IISide B
Brief discussion.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
With discussion on this and previous Motions, Deputy Mayor Gennell said, "The intent
of the Motion was simply to bring it back up to be Agenda'd again." Mayor Partyka
agreed and explained, "You can do whatever this Commission wants to do, so it is not a
reconsideration, it is a new item." Attorney Garganese added, "We start over." Mayor
Partyka also said, "It is like we are starting all over again."
With discussion on environmental concerns with Lake Jesup, Deputy Mayor Gennell
stated, "I would suggest that we instruct the City Manager to update the quotes on this to
make sure that we know exactly how much it is going to cost to bring it back to us at the
next Meeting for a final decision."
Further discussion.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING TOOK PLACE DURING THIS
AGENDA ITEM. .:. .:.
Boy Scout Troop 613 entered the Commission Meeting and were recognized by the City
Commission. The Boy Scouts from this Troop were attending this Commission Meeting
while working towards their Citizenship Badge.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "C" - PART I WAS
FURTHER DISCUSSED. .:. .:.
Discussion.
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COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "CALL THE QUESTION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, THERE IS A MOTION TO CALL THE
QUESTION."
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Further discussion.
Commissioner Miller stated, "Point of Order" and spoke of calling the question.
Commissioner Blake said, "Several Commissioners and just most recently Commissioner
Martinez stated that there is much land around Lake Jesup in Winter Springs to be
developed and I simply ask him ifhe could point out to me exactly where that land is."
"I MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME THAT WE DO NOT RECONSIDER ITEM
'c' - TO SPEND ANY MORE FUNDS, NOR TIME REGARDING THE BOAT
DOCK ISSUE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO UPDATE THE
INFORMATION IN THIS BOAT DOCK CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE WHAT
THE PRICE IS AND EVERYTHING AND BRING IT BACK ON OUR NEXT
AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO
REQUIRE THE CITY MANAGER TO ALSO BRING BACK TO US IN THAT
SAME INFORMATIONAL PACKET A MAP OF THE CITY DEPICTING
EXACTLY WHAT AREAS ALONG LAKE JESUP COULD POTENTIALLY BE
DEVELOPED THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS WORK." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated, "Point of clarification" and stated, "Just so we
understand, it will be an Agenda Item that can be acted on that night. "
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
D. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That The City Commission Consider Holding An Unveiling Ceremony For
The Bronze Plaque That The City Commission Approved In Honor Of Former City
Clerk, Mary T. Norton.
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces suggested to the City Commission the date of
October 14th, 2002 (6:00 p.m.), as this date would be very acceptable to the family of
Mary Norton. With brief discussion, Mayor Partyka asked Members of the City
Commission, "Does everybody agree with that?" Commissioner Blake stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Martinez said, "No problem." Mayor Partyka summarized, "So be it - 6
o'clock, prior to the Meeting."
REGULAR
E. Office Of The City Manager
Requests That The City Commission Make An Appointment To The Metroplan
Orlando Citizens' Advisory Committee, To Replace Mr. Robert J. Lochrane, P.E.
Who Has Recently Resigned. (This Agenda Item Was Listed On Previous Regular
Agendas, However No Appointment Has Been Made Thus Far.)
Mayor Partyka inquired, "Does anybody have anyone at this point in time? If not, we
will put it on the next Agenda." Commissioner Martinez stated, "So moved."
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G. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Consider The Issue Pertaining To The Waiving Of
Fees For Political Signs For Qualified Election Candidates For The Upcoming
Election And Possibly For All Future Elections.
Discussion.
"MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FEES FOR THE POLITICAL SIGNS."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
WITH DISCUSSION, ATTORNEY GARGAN ESE INQUIRED "IS THERE A
[FEE] SCHEDULE FOR POLITICAL SIGNS?" COMMISSIONER BLAKE
ADDED, "IF THERE IS A SCHEDULE OF PERMIT FEES, THEY OUGHT TO
BE PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
CHANGING IT." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "BE HAPPY TO GET
ONE FOR YOU."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE THEN STATED, "MY REAL CONCERN IS IF WE
ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES, AND IT IS AN ORDINANCE - THEN
WE NEED TO USE AN ORDINANCE, BUT MORE THAN THAT, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT A PERMANENT SOLUTION HERE. ANTHONY
[GARGANESE], I KNOW THAT PORTION OF THIS CODE IS PROBABLY
NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOME OF THE MOST RECENT
CONSTITUTIONAL RULINGS THA T HA VE BEEN OUT THERE, AND I
WOULD REALLY THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AN
ORDINANCE TO UPDATE OUR CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T
HA VE THIS ISSUE TWO (2) YEARS FROM NOW." ATTORNEY GARGANESE
STATED, "THAT IS AN ISSUE WE ARE LOOKING INTO?"
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ SUGGESTED, "WE OUGHT TO WORK ON A
RESOLUTION TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US TO ESTABLISH THIS IN
PERMANENCY, WOULD YOU AGREE?" ATTORNEY GARGANESE
STATED, "I WOULD AGREE THAT YOU NEED A PERMANENT SOLUTION
TO IT." DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL REMARKED THAT, "I THINK WE
SHOULD WAIVE THE FEES AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND THEN DO
WHAT COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ SAID, 'ANTHONY, BRING US BACK
SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK' SO THAT WE ARE NOT INFRINGING ON
ANYBODY'S RIGHTS DURING THE POLITICAL SEASON."
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MAYOR PARTYKA ASKED ATTORNEY GARGANESE, "REGARDING WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE PAST, IS IT PROPER THOUGH, FROM A LEGAL
STANDPOINT - EVEN THOUGH THE FEES MAY BE WAIVED, ARE THE
PERMITS STILL REQUIRED?" ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "YES,
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT - EACH CANDIDATE."
THE CITY CLERK WAS ASKED TO REPEAT THE MOTION AND STATED
THAT THE MOTION MADE WAS: "MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FEES
FOR POLITICAL SIGNS."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY
TO BRING US BACK A DOCUMENT IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION OR
WHATEVER - AN ORDINANCE TO THE EFFECT THAT WE WILL HANDLE
ELECTION SIGNS IN THE FUTURE IN THE PRESCRIBED MANNER,
BENEFICIAL TO ALL, AND WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE LAW." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese stated, "Just for the record - as the Commission knows, because I
have advised you previously, that to regulate Political Signs I am going to have to come
back with a comprehensive fe-write of your Sign Code."
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I. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That Members Of The City Commission Make Two (2) Appointments To
Replace Previous Advisory Board/Committee Members Who Have Been Removed
From Several Of The City's Advisory Boards/Committees As A Result Of
Exceeding The Permitted Number Of Absences, In Accordance With The Code Of
Ordinances.
"FOR THE POSITION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, IN PLACE OF MS.
RANDALL - I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT GARY DILLER." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
As no other Appointments were made, Mayor Partyka stated, "We will put it on the next
Agenda. "
REGULAR
J. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That Commissioner Michael S. Blake Make An Appointment To The
Beautification Of Winter Springs Board To Replace Board Member Dart Helgeson
Who Has Resigned From Serving On The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board.
Commissioner Blake stated, "With your indulgence, I am really trying to wait on that
until we get done with the re-write of the Ordinance."
REGULAR
N. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Clarify The Intent Of The State Road 434 New
Development Overlay Zoning District And Greene Way Interchange Zoning District
Regarding Neon Signage.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Current Planning Coordinator Community Development
Department introduced this issue and presented some photographs to the City
Commission for their consideration.
Discussion.
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Tape 2/Side A
Manager McLemore stated, "The type of signs that the Commission is talking about,
those which have the open tube with the gas in them and that are charged and then they
light up and hang inside - that we think is what you do not want." Further, Manager
McLemore said, "If it has a neon bulb behind it, is that a neon sign, because the way the
language is written? So, I think if you are telling us that your intent was not to deal with
the signs that have a neon bulb, but these type of signs that are a hollow tube with the gas
in them, that is all we need to know." Commissioner Blake added, "No exposed neon."
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated, "It is my recollection also, exactly like Commissioner
Blake, that it was our intent not to allow the exposed hollow tube neon lights."
Commissioner Martinez added, "I agree with the two (2) Commissioners."
Mayor Partyka asked Mr. Baker, "What is the consensus of the group?" Mr. Baker
responded by saying, "That this type of neon, the exposed neon is prohibited, but the -
back-lit signs such as what we saw for the Christian Bookstore, the Kash n'Karry, or
what we saw last meeting for the Publix is acceptable because that doesn't have the
appearance of neon, even though it is neon powered." Commissioner Martinez stated,
"You have got it right."
Attorney Garganese then remarked, "What are we going to do with the existing signs?"
Attorney Garganese added, "Some of those signs, my guess would be - were recently
installed." Manager McLemore remarked, "I think that is another Agenda Item - I think
we should bring that back next week." Attorney Garganese added, "It is a problem - it
will have to be addressed."
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" and spoke about the Attorney's comments.
Mayor Partyka then said, "Mr. Garganese, you have got instructions. If you have got any
questions, bring them up at the next Commission Meeting or see Mr. McLemore - or
work on the details."
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated that she has had "Several contacts from business owners on
the west side of the City that have some pre-existing signs and they have received
letters. "
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" and remarked about Deputy Mayor
Gennell's comments.
Deputy Mayor Gennell added, "Just apprising the City Manager and the Commission that
there is a lot of concern out there and we may want to revisit this in some way to at least
give them a feeling of being treated equitably."
Commissioner David W. McLeod commented that "We are talking about neon - do you
know you get the same look out of fiber optic?"
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED.
.:. .:.
V. CONSENT (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING)
CONSENT
A. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Consider Purchasing Extra Copies Of The City's
Promotional Video Presentation, Recently Produced By The Company - Avid Neo
Geo, And To Set The Price Point For Any Copies That Are To Be Purchased.
CONSENT
B. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And Cox Entertainment For July
4, 2003, Entertainment And Concessions.
NOTE: As stated at the beginning of tonight's Meeting, Consent Item "B," was pulled.
CONSENT
C. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Execute Amendment 75 Central Winds Park
Expansion For Consulting Engineering Services, Final Grading Plan With Conklin,
Porter, And Holmes Engineers, Inc.
CONSENT
D. Finance Department
Requesting The City Commission Select An Insurance Carrier For The City's Life
Insurance And Long Term Disability Needs For FY 03.
CONSENT
E. Finance Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The Government Services Group,
Inc. (GSG) Contract For Both Oak Forest And Tuscawilla Lighting And
Beautification's District Annual Administrative Assessment Services In The
Amount Of $12,500 Each For FY 03.
Commissioner Martinez inquired if this Agenda Item had gone before the related
Advisory Committee(s) for discussion prior to coming before the City Commission? Ms.
Louise Frangoul, Finance Department Director responded that this issue had not gone
before the respective Advisory Committee(s).
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Commissioner Martinez then stated, "I am going to request that this be pulled and be
voted on separately."
CONSENT
F. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Execute Amendment 76 Central Winds Roadway And
Entrance Improvements For Consulting Engineering Services With Conklin, Porter,
And Holmes Engineers, Inc.
CONSENT
G. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve And Authorize The Mayor To Sign An
Amended Interlocal Agreement With Seminole County For The Design,
Construction And Maintenance Of Certain Sections Of The Cross Seminole Trail,
Within The City Of Winter Springs Town Center.
CONSENT
H. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement For
Construction Of The Intersection Signalization System Improvements At State
Road 434 And Tuskawilla Road.
CONSENT
I. Public Works Department/Stormwater Division
Requesting Emergency Authorization For Repairs To The Mt. Laurel Retention
Pond.
CONSENT
J. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval Of: 1) A Permanent Public Improvements And Maintenance
Easement And Agreement And 2) A Temporary Road Access Easement And
Agreement From The State Of Florida DEP, Bureau Of Public Lands
Administration, Division Of State Lands.
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CONSENT
K. Finance Department
Requesting The City Commission Select An Insurance Carrier For The City's
General Insurance And Worker's Compensation Insurance Needs For FY 03.
Mayor Partyka stated, "Let's act on the total Consent Agenda, excluding 'E.' I need a
Motion to approve the Consent Agenda."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WAS
PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISPOSITION.
.:. .:.
VI. CONSENT (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING)
CONSENT
E. Finance Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The Government Services Group,
Inc. (GSG) Contract For Both Oak Forest And Tuscawilla Lighting And
Beautification's District Annual Administrative Assessment Services In The
Amount Of $12,500 Each For FY 03.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS
REQUEST AT THIS TIME, UNTIL WE HAVE SOME VERIFICATION AS TO
THE BOARD'S ACTION ON THIS ITEM." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Partyka stated, "I am sure that information will come back at the next Meeting."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
VI. CONSENT (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING)
CONSENT
H. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement For
Construction Of The Intersection Signalization System Improvements At State
Road 434 And Tuskawilla Road.
Brief discussion.
Mayor Partyka stated, "By the way, thank you for all your work on the Mt. Laurel
retention issue, Mr. Lockcuff - we appreciate that - and the people appreciate it."
Commissioner Blake agreed and stated, "Yes!"
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEMS WERE NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
VII. INFORMATIONAL (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS
MEETING)
INFORMATIONAL
A. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
INFORMATIONAL
B. Finance Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider Information Requested At The 7/15/02
Budget Workshop Regarding City Attorney Billable Hours.
Commissioner Miller stated, "I am not happy with the Legal Fees that the City is
enduring right now. The second thing I would like to raise - I would like to see some
Informational Item - information on how many cities our size, or maybe - a couple
thousand either side of ours, are using their own Counsel, as opposed to outside
Counsel." Manager McLemore stated, "We went through that about three (3) or four (4)
weeks ago, at a Budget Meeting." With discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "I will
go back and check, thank you. I will raise it again if it needs to be."
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INFORMATIONAL
C. Public Works Department
Updating The City Commission On The Status Of The Tuscawilla Lighting And
Beautification District Project.
INFORMATIONAL
D. Public Works Department
Updating The City Commission On The Status Of The Town Center Roads Project.
Discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
E. Office Of The City Clerk
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Candidates That Have Qualified
For The November 5, 2002 City Of Winter Springs Municipal Election.
"MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka then advised those in attendance that regarding the upcoming Election,
"Three (3) people have been qualified for Mayor: John F. Bush, Cindy Gennell, Paul P.
Partyka. Commissioner Seat/District Two - Michael S. Blake is Unopposed. He is now
the Commissioner for the next four (4) years - we congratulate Commissioner Blake on
his win. And then under Commissioner Seat/District Four, we have Dick Crenshaw -
Sally McGinnis - and Helga Schwarz."
Furthermore, Mayor Partyka stated, "So again, Congratulations to Mr. Blake,
Congratulations to everybody else who wishes to participate in the Election process; and
Good Luck, one and all."
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VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS
MEETING)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission, The First Reading Of Ordinance Number 2002-
29, To Vacate And Abandon A Segment Of Old Sanford Oviedo Road Right-Of-
Way (ROW).
Mayor Partyka stated, "Looking for a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
The property in question was shown to those in attendance.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title."
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Mr. Vincent A. Con testa bile, 200 Old Sanford Oviedo Road, Winter Springs, Florida:
addressed the City Commission.
Discussion.
Commissioner Blake said, "Kip [Lockcuff] or Mr. Manager, I think we would want an
Agreement in writing and have all of this taken care of prior to the actual vacation of this
right-of-way, and make sure that all parties are very clear on exactly, who is getting
what." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay - next Meeting."
Further discussion.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO APPROVE ITEM 'c'
AND MAKING IT SO THAT THIS GENTLEMAN CAN GO FORWARD AT THE
PRESENT TIME, SO I WOULD APPROVE IT AS FIRST READING." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ ADDED,
"SHOULD WE INCLUDE COMMISSIONER BLAKE'S RECOMMENDATIONS
ABOUT AN AGREEMENT IN THIS MOTION?" COMMISSIONER McLEOD
STATED, "I DEFINITELY WOULD AGREE TO THAT."
Tape 2/Side B
MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, "FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IF HE FINDS
US PROOF THAT HE ACTUALLY HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATED,
ALL THIS IS A MOOT POINT." ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "THAT
IS CORRECT. IF THE EASEMENT - THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HAS BEEN
V ACA TED, IT HAS BEEN V ACA TED."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka said to Mr. Contestabile, "I think it would behoove you to try to see if you
have got any records."
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Consider Second Reading of Ordinance 2002-28
That Would Amend The City Code To Provide Clarification Regarding The
Administration Of Boards And Committees Appointed Under The City Code.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2002-28 by "Title."
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. Community Development Department
Presents To The Commission, The Second Reading Of Ordinance Number 2002-27,
Which Will Vacate And Abandon A 66.65 Foot Long Segment Of A 5 Foot Wide
Utility Easement, Located Along The West Side Of Lot 10, The Reserve At
Tuscawilla, Phase I-A.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance Number 2002-27 by "Title" only.
Mr. Baker presented introductory comments to the City Commission.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Commissioner Blake stated, "The last time this came up, I asked the questions about
whether or not this was the property that had already received a Variance because of the
front of the building being placed within the setback area and for a better description of
exactly what type of wall they are looking to build; where it is going to exist and whether
or not that construction also would be a violation of the setback?" Commissioner Blake
then suggested, "I think that this is an important aspect of a request to move into an area
that was specifically reserved for the public good and this is twice now on the same
property. I think we need additional information before we can go forward on this. We
had asked for it before, and we don't have it yet - I would ask that we continue this to the
next Meeting, giving Staff an opportunity to go back and bring this information to us and
I would ask that we do that in a way that we preserve advertising, so we don't have any
additional costs."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTONE UNTIL THE
NEXT REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING, THE SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION HEARING OF ORDINANCE 2002-27, PRESERVING THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS ADVERTISING - THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED
MEETING WHICH IS OCTOBER 14, 2002." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VIII. REGULAR - PART II (NEW AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS
MEETING)
REGULAR
A. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution Number 2002-31
Establishing New Fees To Be Paid By Individuals Or Groups For Exclusive Use Of
Sports Fields At Central Winds Park, Trotwood Park, Torcaso Park And Sunshine
Park.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department Director addressed the Commission.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
B. Not Used
Mayor Partyka called a Break at 8:59 p.m.
The Regular Meeting reconvened at 9:10 p.m.
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REGULAR
C. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission, The Final Engineering And Site Plan For The
Highlands Apartments, Phase II.
Manager McLemore stated, "I recommend that this item be Tabled until the next
Meeting."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
IX. REPORTS
REPORTS
A. City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese advised the Commission that "The Rawlins Code Enforcement
Citation Case - the Rawlins' have filed a Notice of Appeal indicating their intent to
appeal the decision of the County Court."
Secondly, Attorney Garganese reported that "On the Oviedo/Seminole County litigation
- all of the briefs have been filed and we are waiting for a Court decision on that."
REPORTS
B. City Manager- Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces said to the Commission, "With the passage of the new
Ordinance dealing with Board Members and their attendance, does the Commission still
wish to receive attendance reports?"
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Mayor Partyka asked for input from the Commission. Commissioner Miller stated, "I
would be interested in receiving them on a Quarterly basis or semi-annual, but not
monthly." Commissioner Blake remarked that "I think semi-annual is probably enough.
If there is a particular time of the year when Boards come up significantly - a July time
when a lot of the Boards turn over a lot, perhaps near that time; and I am sure it is always
available upon any Commissioner's request too." Commissioner Martinez stated, "No, I
think that we are imposing a tremendous task on the City Clerk and her Staff and it will
take up time and great effort when we are supposed to have a report from the City Clerk
whenever a Board Member is absent for a number of meetings - they are supposed to
submit a report to us, so we can take action; so I don't think we need it. I am against it."
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated, "Semi-annual." Commissioner McLeod responded by
saying, "It would seem that if we are going to monitor this, the City Clerk is already
monitoring it, so I would say, Semi-annual. Mayor Partyka summarized the comments
and said, "Semi-annual."
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces then brought up that when Advisory Board and Committee
Members resign from serving the City, they are presented with a Resolution for their
service. The question was asked of the City Commission as to should Advisory
Board/Committee Members who are removed for attendance problems be recognized?
Commissioner Blake suggested, "Before we give a single Resolution to any Board
Member who has served, whether it be for ten (10) minutes or ten (10) years, it comes
before this Commission to approve; and this Commission simply needs to vote Aye or
Nay when that Resolution comes up - that way we can determine this on a case-by-case
basis, just as we always have." Mayor Partyka added, "So, we just continue it the same
way - if it is anything highly unusual, we will do that on an individual basis."
REPORTS
D. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
Commissioner Martinez stated, "Some people came over here to object to a sidewalk on
Tuscora [Drive], between Northern Way and Trotwood [Boulevard], and they approached
me subsequently because they were told that since we decided not to do the road on
Tuscora [Drive], you chose not to do the sidewalk that was supposed to have been done
on Northern Way, extending towards Addidas [Road], and I have not received an answer
- and they do want that sidewalk, not on Tuscora, but on Northern Way." Deputy Mayor
Gennell commented on a previous decision and stated, "We included all of the sidewalk
project in that decision." Commissioner Martinez inquired, "Is there any way you can
put this back?" Manager McLemore replied, "Absolutely." Furthermore, Commissioner
Martinez inquired, "So, you are going to bring this back?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes, we
are going to bring the Tuscora item - if you want us to add the Northern Way as a
separate item, or just as part of that same item, we can do whatever you want."
Commissioner Martinez then asked, "Are you all aware of the condition of the road on
Trotwood [Boulevard], between Tuscora [Drive] and Addidas [Road]?" Mr. Lockcuff
inquired, "You are talking about Northern Way?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes."
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Secondly, Commissioner Martinez stated, "There is a dead tree at the end of the wall of
Bentley Green - close to the crossing of the golf course?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Martinez then explained about a problem with a dead tree and asked if the
City's Forester actually visits each site involving the removal of a dead tree. Brief
discussion.
Next, Commissioner Martinez pointed out that at the "Northeast corner of Tuskawilla and
Greenbriar Lane, they dug up a hole on the Greenbriar side and a bigger hole on the
Winter Springs Boulevard side. They finished their work, they filled it up and they never
fixed the landscaping. And all you have there is a bunch of dirt that looks very ugly, and
should be taken care of." Mr. Lockcuff noted the location as Greenbriar and Winter
Springs Boulevard, and that the area needs sod.
Additionally, Commissioner Martinez remarked, "I don't know who took care of clearing
the east side of Greenbriar Lane, from the vicinity of Hole 17, all the way down - they
did a terrible job." Discussion ensued on snapped branches and the refuse that was left
behind. Commissioner Martinez stated, "I would suggest that you maybe go over there
and take a look and get that cleaned up - if you please." Commissioner Martinez then
said, "I would like you to take a look at that and see if you can fix it up somehow; at least
clean up the debris that they left behind including, and I spoke to you twice, and I spoke
to the City Manager by Memo, the branches of a pine tree that fell there two (2) months
ago - they are still sitting there in the same place where they have been since I brought it
to your attention and to the Manager's attention." Manager McLemore asked for a
direction from the Commission. With discussion, Commissioner Martinez said, "I am
going to put it off until the next week, and I will bring the photos." Commissioner
Martinez added that the location was Greenbriar Lane "Across the street from mostly the
pond and Bentley Green - subdivision." Mayor Partyka summarized that "The
Commissioner will bring some pictures back and maybe everybody will get a chance to
look at it too."
The upcoming Election was then discussed by Commissioner Martinez who spoke of
undesirable tactics. Commissioner Martinez then spoke of political situations and
suggested that candidates for political office should "Keep them clean and stay away
from personal attacks and character assassinations." Much discussion.
REPORTS
E. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Cindy Gennell
Deputy Mayor Gennell announced that the next Council of Local Governments in
Seminole County (CALNO) will be held on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at the
Educational Support Center and that "It will be an update on the County Educational
System."
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Secondly, Deputy Mayor Gennell asked for an update on mosquito spraying practices.
With brief comments by Mr. Lockcuff, Deputy Mayor Gennell added, "If we need more
money to do it, then we need to hear about it."
Deputy Mayor Gennell asked if signage could be provided for the Blood Bank, similar to
what was done for the Grove Counseling Center. Manager McLemore suggested that
they would "Put it on an Agenda for the next Meeting, and come back with some
information." Deputy Mayor Gennell stated, "Okay."
A document which discussed lighting for the Town Center was then mentioned by
Deputy Mayor Gennel1. Deputy Mayor Gennell then remarked about upcoming
negotiations regarding the lighting and suggested, "I would just urge you to get it to a
point where you think it is going to be somewhat acceptable to us, before they come to
us, so we don't end up using up public time to hash all that over and send them back
again three (3) more times."
REPORTS
F. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Commissioner McLeod also spoke about the lighting for the Town Center and added,
"The thing that was really important is the style of fixture on that pole."
Tape 3/Side A
Commissioner McLeod asked the City Clerk, "Can I get from you, on the Appointment to
the Board of Adjustment, anybody that has filled out any - applications on that? Would
you mind contacting my office tomorrow." City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces agreed to do this.
Commissioner McLeod then addressed previous comments about political endorsements
and related comments dealing with the upcoming Election.
REPORTS
G. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller did not give any Reports, but stated, "I am going to ask you to
make sure I get recognized at the next Meeting."
REPORTS
H. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
No Report.
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REPORTS
I. Office Of The Mayor - Paul P. Partyka
Mayor Partyka spoke of Robert's Rules of Order and specifically "Breaches of order."
Mayor Partyka also spoke briefly of political endorsements and political actions.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Partyka then requested, "A Motion of Adjournment."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
The Meeting was adjourned by Mayor Partyka at 9:55 p.m.
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the October 14,2002 Regular City Commission Meeting.