HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2008 04 14 City Commission Regular MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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APRIL 14, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, April 14, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Deputy Mayor Gilmore at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, arrived (first) via telephone at 6:24 p.m.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, absent
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Departments, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Under Agenda changes, Deputy Mayor Gilmore mentioned changes and said, "Item `506'
which was a Resolution for the Seminole Economic Enhancement District - we are not
going to be hearing that this evening."
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEM WAS ADDRESSED FIRST, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
506. Community Development Department
Resolution 2008-22, The Seminole Economic Enhancement District Will Not Be
Heard This Evening Due To Additional Public Hearing Requirements Detailed In
Section 376.80 (2) (A) Of The Florida Statutes. One Public Hearing Will Be Held In
Each Of The Three Designated Areas During The Next 30 To 60 Days. Each Of
These Hearing Will Be Advertised. In Addition, The Date And Times Of These
Hearings Will Be Announced At A Regularly Scheduled Meeting Of The City
Commission Before The Actual Hearing Dates. The Public Hearing Before The City
Commission To Approved Resolution 2008-22 Will Be Re-Advertised After The
Public Hearing In Each Of The Three Designated Areas.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore continued by saying, "It has been pulled due to an additional
Public Hearing requirement detailed in Section 376.80 [(2) (A)] of the Florida Statutes.
One (1) Public Hearing will be held in each of the three (3) designated areas during the
next thirty (30) to sixty (60) days. Each of these Hearings will be advertised. In addition,
the date and times of these Hearings will be announced at a regularly scheduled Meeting
of the City Commission before the actual Hearing dates. The Public Hearing before the
City Commission to approve Resolution 2008-22 will be re-advertised after the Public
Hearing in each of the three (3) designated areas."
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE
DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Piggyback Off The Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Award
07-15-0827 For The Purchase Two (2) 45KW Generators.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disnosition Sheets.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
202. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into Contract Agreements For Landscape
Maintenance And Chemical Services For Tuskawilla Road And The Oak Forest
Wall And Beautification District.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
203. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire Reynolds Inliner, LLC. To Perform Storm Sewer
Line Rehabilitation By Piggybacking Off Orange County Project Number Y6-.1005-
J2.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
204. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Designate Shelley's Environmental Systems As A Sole
Source For Hauling Liquid Domestic Wastewater Residuals.
Brief discussion followed with Mr. Lockcuff.
CONSENT
205. Public Works Department -Capital Projects Coordinator
On Behalf Of The Police Department Requesting Approval To Terminate The
Agreement Under The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program Funds From The Federal
Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Through The Florida Department Of
Community Affairs (DCA).
Brief discussion.
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CONSENT
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
2008 Summer Camp Use Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The
Christian Church Of Winter Springs Providing The City Of Winter Springs With
An Appropriate Venue To Offer Its 2008 Summer Camp Program At The Church
Facilities Upon The Terms And Conditions Set Forth In The Proposed Agreement.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked if there will still be Scholarships? Mr. Chuck Pula,
Director, Parks and Recreation Department stated, "Yes".
Further discussion.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 24, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The April 4, 2008 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
`MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion
INFORMATIONAL
101. Parks And Recreation Department And Community Development
Department
Wish To Inform The City Commission About The Leadership Seminole Class 16
Campaign For Boys Town Central Florida - Buy A Brick, Build A Walk Of Hope.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department and
Mr. Pula spoke on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
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REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
Mr. Lockcuff stated, "No Report".
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis complimented the Oviedo Voice on an article in last week's
newspaper.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs mentioned a telephone call she received from a resident
in the Georgetowne subdivision related to parking.
Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department.
Commissioner McGinnis asked when the study will come back to the City Commission?
Captain Tolleson stated, "It will be the last Meeting in November."
Further discussion.
Commissioner Krebs then read a statement related to suggestions for possible Budget
changes.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Absent.
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REPORTS
407. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Rick Brown read a statement about Police Officer Mark Messeguer who
passed away a few years ago.
COMMISSIONER BROWN THEN STATED, "I KNOW THAT WE HAVE IN
THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE - A NEARLY COMPLETE CUSTOMER
RESOURCE AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND COMMUNITY SERVICE
CENTER ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED IN THE VISTAWILLA OFFICE
COMPLEX; AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AMOTION -COMMISSIONER
GILMORE I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT AS WELL
- ON THAT CENTER - I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
NAME THAT CENTER IN THE MEMORY AND HONOR OF OFFICER
MESSEGUER AND IN HONOR OF HIS FAMILY WHO ARE STILL
RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Brown asked about the Bear Creek replatting. Mr. Stevenson responded
by saying, "I can find out for you and give you an update."
Next, Commissioner Brown asked where the City buys their trees. Mr. Stevenson
commented, "I can also get that information for you, I just want to make sure."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore called a Recess at S: 50 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Deputy Mayor Gilmore at 6: 08 p. m.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Arnie Nussbaum, 687 Andover Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the merits
of the events held in the City of Winter Springs and the sense of community they provide.
Mr. Bill Manooch, 1 SI S South Greenleaf Court, Winter Springs, Florida: as the
President of the Babe Ruth organization, Mr. Manooch spoke on their program; the
service it provides; and that they hoped the City would not increase Fees.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore recognized former Mayor Paul P. Partyka.
Tape 1/Side B
Mr. Paul P. Partyka, 292 Solaris Wharf Street, Winter Springs, Florida: on behalf of the
owners of the "1135" building, Mr. Partyka announced that the official Ribbon Cutting
Ceremony for this building will be held on May 14`" [2008] from 4:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Jeff McCall: commented on a FireFighter fund raising car wash event he was
involved with on the 19th of April.
Mr. Bill St. Amour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on Agenda
Item "508" and noted he was opposed to it.
Mayor John F. Bush joined the Meeting via telephone speaker at 6:24 p. m.
Mr. Matt Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
Agenda Item "508"; referenced some of the Codes; and noted the Code Enforcement
Board and Appeals.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission To Approve Resolution 2008-13 Which Provides For
Initial Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Springs And
Public Notices For The Final Rate Resolution Hearing On May 12, 2008.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Bill Abbott, 1146 Winged Foot Circle West, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address
the City Commission. Deputy Mayor Gilmore stated, "You are opposed."
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Mr. Ed Dedelow, 622 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on his
concern with spending and asked for cuts in expenditures.
Mayor Bush discontinued his telephone call at 6: 39 p. m.
Mr. Bill St. Amour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
spending; and commended Commissioner Krebs and Commissioner Brown.
Mr. Matt Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
percentages; suggested the Budget be reviewed line by line; and suggested that an
amendment be considered that if a Fire Assessment was imposed, it would be for only
this fiscal year.
Mr. Gary Bonney°, 1581 Warrington Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
proposed Fire Assessment; due diligence; and noted the costs and attendance of recent
events.
Ms. Gina Burke, 1152 Winged Foot Circle West, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked
about who voted for the Fire Assessment; voting; and advertising issues.
Mr. Ron Pillerra, 882 Benchwood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about the
most recent vote; opposition to the Fire Assessment; suggested a line by line review of
the Budget; and suggested other ways be considered to make up for lost revenue.
Ms. Patricia Fraza, 107 Briarwood Lane, Cocoa, Florida: representing the owners of
Chatham Pines apartments on Red Bug Lake Road, Ms. Fraza commented on difficult
times; low occupancy rates; and less taxes.
Ms. Barbara Budz, 1020 Chatham Pines Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address
the City Commission. Deputy Mayor Gilmore remarked, "You are opposed."
Brief discussion.
Mr. Paul P. Partyka, 292 Solaris Wharf Street, Winter Springs, Florida: asked if the
Commission had considered all possible options; that business owners and home owners
both be considered; and suggested the Budget be reviewed one more time.
Ms. Mai°ia Fajado, 1034 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about
Noticing this issue; and commented on Voting.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
Special Events in the City; past Votes; and an article in a local newspaper that was
incorrect.
Tape 2/Side A
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Ms. Stephanie Oubre, 1080 Cheyenne Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: on a personal note,
Ms. Oubre spoke of hard times and unemployment; and on behalf of the Tuskawilla
Trails Homeowner's Association, Ms. Oubre mentioned that the residents there cannot
afford another Fee.
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commended
Commissioner Krebs and Commissioner Brown for their past Vote; suggested a line by
line Budget Review be done; and suggested some Special Events not be held this year.
Mr. Mark Jones, 926 Chokecherry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on recent
Public Input; listening to residents; and Public Hearings.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore recognized Mr. Laurent Pellerin as a former Ciry Commissioner.
Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the
Budget; the Town Center; and suggested the Fire Department be funded out of Reserves.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of an email to
Governor Crist; suggested the Budget be further reviewed; and mentioned that she
supports Fire and Police services.
Ms. Elaine Waldman, 106 Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: Deputy Mayor Gilmore
said, "Opposed."
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Ad Hoc Winter Springs Citizen Property Tax Reform Mitigation Study Committee; the
proposed Fire Assessment; and suggested Budget cuts be made where possible.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr.
Mr. Edward Mai°tinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of City
events and services; the proposed Fire Assessment; Millage Rates; and Referendums.
Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: representing Seville on
the Green, Mr. Sandidge commented on integrity; trust; and suggested a Budget Review.
Ms. Frankie Elliott, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: as the Vice President for
Governmental Affairs for the Orlando Regional Realtors Association, Ms. Elliott spoke
of tough times; and new unplanned Fees for businesses.
Mr. Kent McMillin, 1038 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his
concern with having Fire and Police services available; that such employees be paid
fairly; and that spending is reviewed. Mr. McMillin also asked that when his water meter
is read, that the top be put back on.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Commissioner Brown spoke of the PowerPoint presentation and stated, "Kevin (Smith),
when he gave his initial speech -introduction, had a slide up there that said at some point,
we may have to look at taking a certain percentage out of reserves and a certain
percentage out of budget cuts. I would like to know what that number is."
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION
2008-13 TO GO FORWARD WITH NOTIFYING THE CITY OF THE PROCESS
THAT IS GOING TO BEGIN AND THAT A SIDE ISSUE OF THAT WOULD BE
THAT IT IS FOR ONE (1) YEAR AND THAT WE CALL FOR OPEN BUDGET
HEARINGS WITH THE IDEA OF MAKING SIGNIFICANT CUTS WHEREVER
POSSIBLE IN THE BUDGET; AND THAT WE MAKE THOSE
ANNOUNCEMENTS PUBLICLY IN THE NEWSPAPERS, CITY MAGAZINE
OR CITY NEWSLETTER; AND MAYBE CALL ON THAT NEWS CHANNEL
THAT WE..."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "...PUBLIC TV..." COMMISSIONER
MILLER ADDF,D, "...YES, TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS ALSO." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION -FIRST, THAT WE DO CONTINUE WITH
THE SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT (75%) ALTERNATIVE RATE AND THAT
THAT BE NOT ICED TO THE PEOPLE AND BROUGHT BACK AT THE MAY
12TH [2008] COMMISSION MEETING.
SECOND, THAT UTILIZING THE SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT (75%) RATE
ALTERNATIVE, THE STAFF BRING BACK PROPOSALS WITH
COMBINATIONS OF BUDGET CUTS AND RESERVES TO REDUCE THAT
TWENTY-FIVI: PERCENT (25%) EVEN FURTHER.
THIRD, THE COMMISSION FORGO SPENDING FOR ANY COMMUNITY OR
TOWN CENTER EVENTS FOR WHICH THERE ARE NOT OFFSETTING
DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR DONATIONS OR SPONSORSHIPS, INCLUDING THE
FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION OF FREEDOM, WHICH WE HAVE ALL
ENJOYED. SO, I SAY LET'S DO AWAY WITH THAT THIS YEAR. THAT
WILL BE A REDUCTION."
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THE FOURTH THING IN MY AMENDMENT -THAT WE SUNSET THE FIRE
ASSESSMENT PROGRAM AT THE END OF THE [20]'07/[20]'08 BUDGET AND
REQUIRE THE COMMISSION TO RECONSIDER IT IF THAT IS THEIR
CHOICE. SO I WANT TO SEE IT SUNSETED. AT THAT TIME, WE WILL
EITHER COME BACK WITH THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE OR IT IS GOING
TO AD VALOREM TAX."
CONTINUING, DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "FINALLY, IF
POSSIBLE, PRIOR TO THE FINAL HEARING ON THIS MATTER WHICH AT
THIS POINT WOULD BE MAY 12T", THE CITY SHOULD SEND OUT AN
INFORMATION PIECE TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING THE
FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE THEN NOTED, "IF
WE CAN, WE SHOULD PUT THIS INFORMATION WITH THE NOTICE
THAT GOES OUT ADVISING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS ISSUE SIMILAR TO
THE TRIM NOTICE YOU GET WITH YOUR TAXES AND IT SHOULD BE AN
EASY UNDERSTANDABLE QUESTION AND ANSWER ISSUE. I THINK THIS
WOULD BE WELL WORTH THE EXPENDITURE." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER K12EBS ASKED DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE, "DID YOU
JUST ASK FOR THE STAFF TO FIND SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET?"
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE RESPONDED, "YES." DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE NOTED, "THE QUESTION THAT IHAVE - I AM CONCERNED
ABOUT IS THE WORD BUDGET REVIEW. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
I SAY THE STAFF SHOULD GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, REVIEW IT AND
COME BACK WITH SOME POTENTIAL CUTS. I AM NOT SAYING THE
COMMISSION SHOULD REVIEW, NO, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT, I
HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED,
"MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF
PROGRAMS AND BY THAT I MEAN, WE HAVE EVENTS, CENTRAL WINDS
PARK, 'T'OWN CENTER. THAT IS A PROGRAM. THE STAFF CAN LOOK AT
THAT AND SAY - WE CAN DO WITHOUT IT. ANOTHER PROGRAM
POTENTIALLY, THE SPLASH PAD IN TROTWOOD PARK."
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE FURTHER REMARKED, "I AM SAYING LET'S
HAVE THEM DO THAT AND REPORT BACK TO US WITH ADDITIONAL
SPENDINGS BY -MAY 12T" [2008]."
FURTI-TER DISCUSSION.
Mayor Bush joined the Meeting via telephone speaker at 8:20 p. m.
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COMMISSIONER BROWN SPOKE FOR THE RECORD ON BUDGET CUTS
AND A BUDGET REVIEW.
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore called a Recess at 8:22 p. m.
Mayo~° Bush discontinued his telephone call at approximately 8:22 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Deputy Mayor Gilmore at 8:42 p. m.
Tape 3/Side A
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing On The Evaluation
And Appraisal Report [EAR] Of The Winter Springs' Comprehensive Plan And
Adopt Resolution 2008-15. (Resolution 2008-15 Adopts The EAR [Evaluation And
Appraisal Report] And Authorizes Transmittal Of The EAR [Evaluation And
Appraisal Report] To The Florida Department Of Community Affairs [DCA] For A
Review Of Its Sufficiency, Pursuant To The Requirements Of Chapter 163.3191,
Florida Statutes.)
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Much discussion.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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No one spoke.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION 2008-15." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2008-03, Adopting A Small Scale FLUM [Future Land Use Map]
Amendment Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation Of A 6.25 Acre
Parcel, Located At 1379 SR [State Road] 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State
Road] 434 And SR [State Road] 417), From (Seminole County) "Commercial" To
(City Of Winter Springs) "GreeneWay Interchange District" With "Conservation
Overlay" On Those Affected Areas.
Attorney Garganese stated, "For First Reading, we need a Motion to read by `Title'
only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Montje S. Plank, P.E., Senior Vice President, Central Florida Land Design
Corporation, S00 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 110, Maitland, Florida: on behalf of the
client, Mr. Plank said he supported this project.
The "Pzrblic Input" portion of the Agenda Item was closed.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS TO SECOND READING."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC IIEARINGS
503. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2008-04 Which Rezones 6.25 Acres (More Or Less), Located At 1379 SR
[State ]toad] 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State Road] 434 And SR [State
Road] 417), From "A-1" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "GreeneWay
Interchange District" (City Of Winter Springs).
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked for a Motion to read by "Title" only.
"MOTION." SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only and stated, "The effective date
would be contingent upon Ordinance 2008-03 becoming effective."
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Montje S. Plank, P.E., Senior Vice President, Central Florida Land Design
Corporation, S00 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 110, Maitland, Florida: briefly
addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
The "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item was closed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS WHO ADDED, "TO MOVE TO A
SECOND READING." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve First Reading Of Ordinance Number 2008-
05, A Text Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That Would Allow Detached
Garages, Subject To Conditions.
"MOTION TO READ BY `TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. G~°eg Velz, 612 Fisher Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on wanting to build a
garage to match his home.
The "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item was closed.
Further discussion.
Mr. Stevenson stated, "In Section 6-84. that we're amending, that does talk abut
accessory structures, one of the areas that we are not amending -talks about - it says the
City Commission must find that the proposed accessory building is compatible and
harmonious with the principal structure and the surrounding land uses and structures.
That is not -that is language in addition to the Compatibility Ordinance that does come
up before you in a couple of months for a sunshine review. But this language is still in
the Code and it will not be subject to that sunshine review - 6-84., Accessory Structures."
Commissioner Robert S. Miller spoke of his concern with the language "Party houses."
Commissioner Krebs added, "Take it out." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Take it
out." Commissioner Miller also noted, "Take it out."
Mr. Stevenson remarked, "We're currently doing an Amendment to the Code - if it is the
direction of this Commission to take it out, we will strike it out." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Strike it out." Commissioner Krebs said, "Take it out."
Commissioner Miller also noted, "I would like to take it out."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked, "Do we have a Motion to move to Second Reading"?
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "...WITH
THE DELETION OF `PARTY HOUSES'..." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED,
"...RIGHT." DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON ASKED, "IS IT THE DIRECTION OF THIS COMMISSION
TO REMOVE THE TERM, `PARTY HOUSES'?" COMMISSIONER MILLER
NOTED, "YES." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "CORRECT."
COMMISSIONER MILLER THEN ADDED, "AND FROM OTHER
ANCILLIARY DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED ALSO."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve First Reading Of Ordinance Number 2008-
06, AText Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That Would Modify The
Existing Front Yard Fence Height Limitations Set Forth In Section 6-190. Of The
City Code To Allow Fences Up To 4'-6" In Areas Of The City That Allow Horses,
Ponies, And Commercial Riding Stables As Permitted Uses.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked for a Motion to read by "Title" only.
"MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
Tape 3/Side Q
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
Commissioner Brown left the dais at 9: 27 p. m.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS)
MOTION CARRIED.
(VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE FROM THE
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Commissioner Brown returned to the dais at 9:29 p. m.
Mr. Baker spoke on this Agenda Item and presented photographs during the discussion.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item was closed.
"MO"TION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS
ADDED, "MOVE TO SECOND [READING]." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC' IIEARINGS
507. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Consider Adopting Ordinance 2008-08 On
Second And Final Reading Authorizing The Lease Or Sale Of 154 Lori Anne Lane.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
508. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Consider Adopting Ordinance 2008-07 On
Second And Final Reading Which Adopts The 2006 International Property
Maintenance Code As Amended.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Continuing, Attorney Garganese stated, "There was an issue regarding an omission
during First Reading and that was regarding a height of weeds; and on page 4 of 6 you
will note that based on my conversation with Captain Tolleson, he recommended
inserting ten inches (10") as the maximum height before someone would receive a
Notice."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that a cost
perspective be considered up front; spoke of Codes in the City; and suggested it was too
comprehensive.
Mr. Bart Phillips, 212 Morton Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: asked if the weeds in the
natural lands of the Ranchlands would have to be cut down?
Mr. Mark Jones, 926 Chokecherry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: asked if the
Commission was comfortable with the Ordinance.
The "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item was closed.
With discussion on the actual Code document, Attorney Garganese stated, "We made it
available; unfortunately I couldn't get the permission to actually copy it and put it on the
City's Website. To my knowledge, I don't know if anybody has made a Public Records
Request for copies of it?" Commissioner Brown then asked, "But if they do, would we
violate the copyright laws if we do that too?" Attorney Garganese noted, "We would
have to advise them that it is copyright protected. It's one of those grey areas in Florida
Law - we might just have to make a copy of it. But - as a City Official, I didn't get
permission to actually put it on the Website to make it available; and copy it and make it
available. So, I got -ten (10), fifteen (15) copies of it and made it available throughout
City Hall."
Further discussion followed with Captain Tolleson.
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Commissioner Miller then asked Attorney Garganese, "Is there a legal issue with
adopting a Code which we cannot publicly photocopy and put out on the Internet and
hand out to just anybody that wants it?" Attorney Garganese stated, "Anybody who
wants it - I mean, we made it available for public inspection." Commissioner Miller
noted, "I know -but people can come by and we can maintain a supply of these?"
Attorney Garganese stated, "Right."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller noted, "People are interested in what it says so, they
come by City Hall and they pick up a copy? Correct? Well, if they want to photocopy it,
that is their problem. But, we can hand out to anyone who is interested in what this Code
says, they just come to City Hall and we give them a copy?" Attorney Garganese stated,
"Right, or sell it for cost. We could order some of these."
Next, Commissioner Miller added, "So, there is no legal issue with using a copyright
document?" Attorney Garganese stated, "No, not at all."
Discussion.
~~MOTION TO APPROVE -ITEM `508'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING FOR ONE (1) HOUR."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
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ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Gilmore adjourned the Regular Meeting at 10:01 p.m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE NOT
DISCUSSED DURING THIS MEETING. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
509. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Hold A Public Hearing For Revisions To The Aesthetic Review
For Grandeville At Town Center, A Proposed 160 Unit Apartment Development
Located On 4.78 Acres In The Town Center On The North Side Of SR (State Road),
Just East Of The City Hall Building.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAK
600. Community Development Department
Requests The Commission Consider A Conceptual Development Plan For A 60,104
SF (Square Foot) Retail And Office Development On 7.29 Acres, Located On The
North Side Of SR (State Road) 434, At The Northwest Corner Of Its Intersection
With Fountaintree Drive, Immediately Adjacent To And West Of Harbor Winds.
REGULAR
601. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off A Florida Department Of
Transportation Contract With The Middlesex Corporation For The Resurfacing
And Reconstruction Of Winter Springs Boulevard From Arrowhead Court To The
City Limits.
REGLJL:~R
602. Community Development Department
Providing The City Commission With A Brief Summary Of Information Regarding
Green Buildings And LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design)
Certification, As Previously Directed By The Commission.
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603. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off A Florida Department Of
Transportation Contract With The Middlesex Corporation For The Resurfacing
And Reconstruction Of Various Citv Streets.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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A REA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
C TY CLERK
APPROVED:
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MAYO JOHN I~. HUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the April 28, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.