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FEBRUARY 11,2002
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of February 11, 2002 of the City Commission was called to order
by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayer Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, arrived at 6:34 p.m.
Conmlissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:31 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:34 p.m.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:31 p.m.
Members of the Commission discussed Agenda Changes, and agreed that Regular
Agenda Item "A" would be moved up after "Public Input." The Commission agreed to
hear several Regular Agenda Items prior to the "Public Hearings" Agenda. It was also
agreed that the Consent and Informational Agenda Items would be moved to follow the
"Public Hearings" Agenda Items.
II. PUBLIC INPUT
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell arrived at 6:34 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:34 p.m.
Mayor Partyka stated, "Let the record show that Mr. Garganese and Commissioner
Gennell are here."
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Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: presented each
Member of the City Commission a video and related documentation on the issue of a
"Paws Park."
Ms. Paula Davoli, 1644 Eagle Nest Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as a member of the
Central Winds Park Expansion Ad Hoc Advisory Committee, Ms. Davoli spoke on her
volunteerism and her concern with the efforts of the Central Winds Park Expansion Ad
Hoc Advisory Committee.
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Ms. Trish Drebert, 500 Hayes Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
proposed gas station at Hayes Road, and meetings the City Manager has had with
developers. Ms. Drebert also asked for a copy of the Traffic Study as it relates to the
proposed gasoline station to be built at the corner of Hayes Road.
Discussion.
Mr. Gene Lein, 1172 Winged Foot Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that the
audio visual equipment in the Commission Chambers be used to present maps and
drawings to the audience as much as possible, especially tonight.
Ms. Antoinette Jardin, 15 La Vista Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
proposed gas station at Hayes Road; asked several questions about this project and said
that she has copies of the bills for the property line fencing and asked who the bills
should be sent to, for reimbursement.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. said to Ms. Jardin, "The Ava Anthony people agreed
to correct the condition of the building of the fence, the last time we were here."
Ms. Cindy Slack, 1220 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on her concerns
with the Nursery Road issue; thanked the Commission for the sign; and addressed various
concerns such as traffic problems, wells, and providing access for large vehicles such as
buses and emergency vehicles.
Mr. Curtis Slack, 1220 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Partyka stated
that Mr. Slack was "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue. Mr. Slack did not
address the Commission.
Ms. Ruth Bilskie, 103 Melton Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission. Mayor Partyka stated, "She is "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road
Issue.
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Mr. Dennis Bilskie, 103 Melton Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission. His "Public Input" form noted that he was "Opposed," regarding the
Nursery Road issue.
Mr. and Mrs. David Bohnstadt, 1170 Talmo Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not
address the Commission. Mayor Partyka stated, "They are "Opposed," regarding the
Nursery Road issue.
Mr. Kevin Lathrop, 1230 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission, and Mayor Partyka stated, "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Ms. Cheryl Lathrop, 1230 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission. Ms. Lathrop's "Public Input" form noted that she was "Opposed,"
regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Mr. Ed and Deanna Lathrop, 1230 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not
address the Commission and their "Public Input" form noted that they were "Opposed,"
regarding the Nursery Road issue."
Mr. Andrew Chipchak, 1221 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission. Mayor Partyka stated, "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Mr. Tom Gekas, 1115 Oak Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission. Mayor Partyka stated, "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Mr. Harold Spangler, 1162 Talmo Street, Winter Springs, Florida: also did not address
the Commission. Mayor Partyka stated, "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Ms. Lilia1l Spangler, 1162 Talmo Street, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Commission and Mayor Partyka stated, "Opposed," regarding the Nursery Road issue.
Ms. Sharon Tackaberry, 634 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about her
concerns with the Avery Park project such as a request for a ten foot (10') buffer, and that
the dumpster be moved.
Mr. Michael Tackaberry, 634 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: also spoke of
his concern with the Avery Park project and noted how fast this project seemed to be
movmg.
Mr. Brian Oliver, 630 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: identified some of his
concerns with the A very Park project such as the lights and the dumpster.
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Ms. Lisa Oliver, 630 Cheoy Lee Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Partyka stated
"Let the record show she is opposed."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
A; Office Of The City Manager
Requests The Commission Readdress The Open Alcoholic Beverage Container Issue
As Requested By The City Commission.
Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr introduced Chief Deputy Steve Harriet of the Seminole
County Sheriffs Office. Chief Kerr stated that regarding a proposed Open Alcoholic
Beverage Container Ordinance, "We are the only City in Seminole County that does not
have such an Ordinance - and it's just a necessity to have uniformity and the ability to be
able to enforce this Ordinance."
Chief Deputy Steven D. Harriet, Seminole County Sheriff's Office, 100 Bush Boulevard,
Sanford, Florida: addressed the City Commission regarding the proposed Ordinance,
and stated this would be "A tool that would as a proactive or preventative measure,
ensure the regulation of certain conduct in public areas." Chief Deputy Harriet added that
with this in hand, our Police Department would "Have this as a means to regulate this
type of conduct should it become a problem for your City" and "It still leaves the
discretion of enforcement to the enforcement officer - by no means are you declaring that
there be a zero tolerance. It would be at the discretion of the City Commission, through
the City Commission, through the City Manager no doubt, to the Police Chief to
determine how and where you would want this Ordinance enforced." Further, Chief
Deputy Harriet said, "It would certainly be our recommendation to you that it would
support and compliment the existing County Ordinance that regulates open containers
and it would be very similar to all of the other Ordinances that we find in place in the
other municipalities." Chief Deputy Harriet then stated, "Again, it allows us to regulate
conduct that might contribute to an erosion of an orderly society." Discussion.
Chief Kerr advised the Commission, "Weare beginning to experience more of these type
of complaints from our multi-residential areas, apartment complexes where people call us
about groups gathering and drinking." Chief Kerr explained that his officers "Talk to the
individuals that are drinking, but we really don't have the ability to ask them to move on,
because we don't have an Ordinance, and it's not until they become disorderly or they
become intoxicated that we are able to take action and by that time, in a lot of cases we
have either their participation in fights or they assault someone who walks through the
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area or when we do have to make an arrest for being intoxicated, then they resist arrest.
So it real1y exaggerates the problem - if we were able to initially say - we have an
Ordinance about drinking in public, we would appreciate it if you would go to your yards
or your homes, or to an area that is acceptable, rather than in front of other peoples homes
and parking lots." Chief Kerr emphasized, "It's a quality oflife issue."
Tape 1/Side B
Chief Kerr added, "Our desire would be to be able to warn people that - you are drinking
in public, we have this Ordinance, and if we have to come back, it's a situation that we
would have to make a charge."
Further discussion.
Chief Kerr stated, "I think the way that this Ordinance has been written by the City
Attorney really addresses those kind of concerns."
Manager McLemore asked Chief Deputy Harriet "Are you aware of the County
Commission getting any complaints on this Ordinance - is it being abusive or dealt with
in an unfair way with the public?" Chief Deputy Harriet explained that the Sheriffs
Department often enforces not only County Ordinances but often City Ordinances and
stated, "To my knowledge there have been no complaints lodged either when we enforce
the City Ordinance or the County Ordinance. Again, it's one that is discretely enforced-
when it's appropriate, warnings are rendered. When not, when it's time to take'
enforcement action, because it's a continuing problem and there is a pattern of abuse
there and it's detracting from the quality of life in that particular neighborhood, then
that's when the enforcement activity occurs."
Commissioner Miller spoke for the record on his support of this proposed legislation.
Discussion followed on public/private areas.
Chief Deputy Harriet then stated, "I think the concern here is giving the law enforcement
authority in the City of Winter Springs the ability to address some sort of manifested
problem, in an area that is either public or open to the public as a matter or right or
custom - thus the reference to the private areas, i.e. privately owned or operated,
managed parking lots such as shopping centers or apartment complexes." Chief Deputy
Harriet added, "If you're concerned, just exempt out someone's private lawn."
Chief Kerr said to the City Commission that when the City Attorney "Designed and
wrote this, it was based on a model Ordinance that cities in Florida put together, so - if
it's a word or a particular area that you want stricken from this Ordinance, it would be
appropriate to do. The reason why a private driveway is in there - for example, if
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someone is in the roadway drinking or in an area and they can go up into your driveway,
it's not their private driveway, but if it's not in the Ordinance here, and they step up into
your driveway and say 'Well, you know I'm drinking in a private driveway, you can't
enforce this' - well, obviously you don't want them standing in your driveway drinking
and causing a disturbance."
Discussion.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake suggested, "I would like to see this brought back to us,
re-written, without some of these other extraneous words in here and defining what it is
we are trying to do."
Attorney Garganese stated, "If the Commission wants us to bring back an Ordinance, I
would appreciate some additional input on how you would want this narrowed."
Attorney Garganese added, "I would like some clearer direction if we are going to come
back with another Ordinance."
Commissioner Martinez stated, "I still am of the opinion that this Commission should
consider an Ordinance to assist the Chief and his troops to handle the streets correctly."
Chief Kerr then explained that often people who live in an apartment complex get
together, drink alcohol and are possibly harassing others and when the Police get called to
the area they are fine - but "As soon as we leave they go back to the same activity they
were doing. We get called back, only now, maybe after the second or third time we're
called back, they are intoxicated to the level where we can arrest them, but, by that time,
they have already assaulted someone, or now they are at the level where they want to
resist arrest and it has escalated to a much worse situation." Chief Kerr further stated,
"We don't want an Ordinance where we can drive around and spot people drinking."
Additionally, Chief Kerr suggested, "Maybe what I should do is invite you to ride along
with our officers, in those areas and experience some of the calls that they are going to, as
they feel helpless to assist the people there until it gets to the point where we have crime
oc~urring." Additionally, Chief Kerr added, "I'm looking to try - by this Ordinance and
with this kind of activity, make our City as safe as we possibly can." Chief Kerr
explained that problems will only escalate as the City grows.
Chief Deputy Harriet suggested that the Commission consider this "Open Container
Ordinance - as a preemptive measure to apply to a developing or established problem that
law enforcement has to deal with."
Deputy Mayor Gennell suggested that the Ordinance be written in "Such a way that it
applies to the areas you intend to use it - if it is not intended for single family residential
neighborhoods, then say so."
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Manager McLemore explained that civil disorders follow a process, and further advised
the Commission that Chief Kerr and Chief Deputy Harriet are "Trying to prevent that
process from exploding by having an early ability to intervene in a civil disorder
process." Manager McLemore further said that "Wherever you have these civil disorders
where people are getting into a situation where anger and alcohol is mixed, you are going
to have a situation that potentially builds out of hand, and what they are trying to tell you
is an Ollnce of prevention is far less - than having to put in a pound of enforcement."
Further, Manager McLemore said, "How do you deal with them in the least offensive
way - and that's all they are trying to say." Additionally, Manager McLemore suggested,
"The whole idea is to stop an escalating process at its earliest point, and that is all they
are trying to do."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION - RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY ATTORNEY GET TOGETHER WITH THE CHIEF AND BRING BACK
AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PLEASE THE REST OF THIS
COMMISSION, SO WE CAN ASSIST IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS
SPECIFIC ASPECT OF LAW WITHIN WINTER SPRINGS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ASKED MANAGER McLEMORE FOR
CLARIFICATION AND FURTHER STATED, "IF YOU CAN PUT WHAT YOU
JUST DESCRIBED INTO AN ORDINANCE - I KNOW I PERSONALLY
WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER."
Commissioner Martinez stated, "Point of Order" and commented on the Motion.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS,
EMBEDDED IN YOUR LAW - YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROVISION,
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE OTHER GUIDING LANGUAGE THAT DEALS
WITH THAT, IN MY OPINION."
Tape 2/Side A
COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT."
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL STATED THAT "THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS
ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT IT IS DISCRETIONARY, THAT WE ARE
GOING TO GIVE THEM A WARNING." DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL ADDED
THAT HER COMMENTS WERE APPLICABLE TO THE MOTION MADE BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ "BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT I
HAVE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO ADDRESS WHEN THEY
DRAFT THIS - PROPOSED ORDINANCE."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chief Deputy Harriet stated, "If the Sheriff s Office Legal staff could be of any assistance
to the City Attorney, the City Manager, the Police Chief, in drafting this Ordinance, feel
free to call on us."
REGULAR
D. Community Development Department - Building Division
Requests That The Commission Reconsider A Request Of John Laudani, On Behalf
Of The Homeowners Howard And Libby Baity, For A Variance In The Elevation
Of The Finished Floor At 627 Sailfish Road.
Mr. Dennis Franklin, Building Official, Building Division, Community Development
Department introduced this Agenda Item to the Commission.
Discussion.
Mr. Charles Carrington, AICP, Community Development Department Director read a
Section of the Code in regards to this Agenda Item. Discussion.
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" and spoke of the application of a different
Section from the Code of Ordinances.
With brief discussion, Manager McLemore stated, "We can give the testimony on the
record that we are recommending approval under that Code Section under Section -
8.34., rather than the one stated in your document."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT
COMMISSION MEETING - AND THAT'S A MOTION, AND HAVE STAFF
BRING IT BACK WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONER'S." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
AS THERE WERE OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK. MAYOR PARTYKA DID
NOT ACCEPT THIS AS A MOTION.
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION AGAIN THAT WE POSTPONE IT - THAT'S THE
ORIGINAL MOTION - MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT
COMMISSION MEETING, AND HAVE STAFF BRING IT BACK WITH SOME
OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE INCLUDED IN THE
PACKAGE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order," and asked whether discussion was
allowed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE
DOCUMENTS AND AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, AND
CONTINGENT UPON THE EXECUTION OF A 'HOLD HARMLESS
INDEMNIFICATION AFFIDAVIT' THAT IS SIGNED, NOTARIZED, AND
RECORDED IN THE RECORDS OF SEMINOLE COUNTY, AND IF WE
ATTACH THAT TO THE MOTION THEN IT CAN BE UP TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOCUMENT IS
COMPLETED AND ONCE THAT HAS OCCURRED, THEN THEY ARE DONE -
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US AGAIN." AMENDMENT
TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE."
MAYOR PARTYKA DID NOT ACCEPT THIS AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
DEPUTYMAYORGENNELL: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE
VARIANCE UNDER SECTION 8-34. (b) (5), INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE
DOCUMENTS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT AND THE DISCLOSURE
STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN FILED AND RECORDED IN SEMINOLE
COUNTY, CONTINGENT UPON THE EXECUTION OF A 'HOLD HARMLESS
AND INDEMNIFICATION AFFIDAVIT' PROTECTING THE CITY OF
WINTER SPRINGS THAT IS DULY NOTARIZED, AND RECORDED IN THE
RECORDS OF SEMINOLE COUNTY, AND ONCE THAT DOCUMENT HAS
BEEN COMPLETED, UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY,
THEN THE VARIANCE WOULD BE GRANTED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORGENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka said to Mr. Franklin, "I would urge Mr. Franklin to get together with the
people and do all those necessary documents that has to be done.- and you'll check with
the City Attorney or City Manager and make sure all those things are done."
REGULAR
E. Community Development Department - Code Enforcement Division
Requests The City Commission Considers The Request Of Howard Rosenfeld, 1034
Winter Springs Boulevard To Park His Over-Sized Recreational Vehicle At His
Residence.
Ms. Jimette Cook, Manager, Code Enforcement Division, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission on this issue and read several letters into the
record.
Mr. Harold Rosenfeld, 1034 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida:
addressed the City Commission regarding his situation and summarized, "All I am asking
for is permission to bring my vehicle to my driveway, park it overnight while I load up,
start my refrigerator when I have to, and be offthe next day."
Much discussion.
Commissioner Blake suggested that "Perhaps, what we might want to do is look at the
Codes."
Regarding this complaint, Ms. Cook stated that "We could use some direction."
Commissioner Blake added, "My recommendation would be that we do not take action
on this tonight; that we send it back to Staff for some additional research and perhaps
review the Code to see what we might do to be more realistic in some of the Codes - and
also take a careful look at the commercial aspect of this particular use."
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With further discussion, Commissioner David W. McLeod spoke on what was before the
Commission regarding this Agenda Item and added, "If we feel our Code is different,
then I think we ought to research that thing and go forward." Additionally,
Commissioner Robert S. Miller commented on large commercial vehicles such as
eighteen (18) wheeler types of trucks and added, "I just would not like to see this get out
of~and in that regard."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION HERE - I BELIEVE THIS
GENTLEMAN DOES HAVE A MOTOR VEHIClLE THAT FALLS UNDER
CAMPING DEVICES BUT IS PROBABLY LICENSED BY THE STATE OF
FLORIDA AS SUCH - I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS LICENSED AS A
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE; THEREFORE, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT
WE DO GIVE HIM A PERMIT FOR A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO LOAD FOR NO
LONGER THAN ANY FORTY-EIGHT (48) HOUR PERIOD IN COMPLIANCE
WITH SECTION 20-411. (b)." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
K. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Further Consideration To Concept
Plans For Ava Anthony, Inc. To Construct A Gas Station And Convenience Store At
The Corner Of Hayes Road And State Road 434 As Part Of Negotiations Of A
Settlement Agreement With The Developer Relative To Vested Rights.
Manager McLemore addressed the Commission and spoke of what has transpired thus
far.
Tape 2/Side B
Manager McLemore advised the Commission that at the rear of this project, "Along that
fence line is going to need a substantial amount of treatment - landscape materials."
Further, Manager McLemore stated that another area was in need of work: "At the edge
of this development of Phase eight (8), that we needed treatment to divide it from the
balance of the tract in order to have the landscape go fully around the building."
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Mr. Arron J Garovitz, Esquire, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola, Orlando, Florida: as the Attorney for the developer, Mr. Garovitz suggested
that they wanted to know if they were on track and added that they were going to be
"Bringing you back a Developer's Agreement at the next Meeting."
Mr. Garovitz stated, "We pretty much were able to get from the Chevron folks, carte
blanche to change their entire theme, the way they present their sites - the only thing we
couldn't do was get an authorization to remove the blue stripe, which is something we
asked for, but we told them that the sign package otherwise would be completely
different than anything they have ever seen. It will be designed specifically for the City
of Winter Springs and they have signed off on that."
Mayor Partyka asked Mr. Garovitz for his comments on some of the questions that Ms.
Antoinette Jardin had asked about earlier in tonight's Meeting. Mayor Partyka stated,
"Texaco is now Chevron right?" Mr. Garovitz stated, "This will be Chevron, yes."
Mayor Partyka then said, "The Ava Anthony company, is that the company that is going
to be handling this convenience store/station?" Mr. Garovitz responded, "They are the
developer, but there is a company called Medallion [Convenience Stores, Inc.] - that
we've taken Ron (McLemore) around to all of the Medallion sites." Mayor Partyka then
said, "Safeguards on possible future abandonment - that talks to the fiscal strength of the
company?" Mr. Garovitz said, "Medallion and Chevron are both huge and Mr. Anthony
is going to have it all in a Developer's Agreement." Mayor Partyka then said, "The fence
issue -- reimbursement?" Mr. Garovitz stated, "She said they had to put up a fence
because ours wasn't up and we committed that when we pull our building permit, we will
reimburse them for the actual cost of the expense. We just want to get - we need to make
that a condition of the building permit. We just want to get receipts to make sure it is a
real number."
Commissioner McLeod said, "I don't see a retention pond anywhere?" Mr. Garovitz
responded, "On the final site plan, obviously the retention pond will be there."
Furthermore, Mr. Garovitz said, "The pond I would imagine will be on the interior
portion of the building when you are looking at the building on the right, it'll be
landscaped as well - you know, commensurate with the other landscaping."
Commissioner McLeod then said, "The retention pond for these two (2) pieces of
property, at that time was one, now you are talking about splitting them - over next to the
Cumberland Farms. My question - do you plan to have one common pond for both
parcels?" Mr. Garovitz stated, "I don't think that's been determined. What we are going
to do for both parcels is what you asked in the Developer's Agreement. We couldn't
depict this. We are going to require that the architecture be compatible, that the
landscaping be compatible on both pieces, so what you see here is similar to what you'll
get there. Where their pond will go and whether it will be joined, I don't know yet."
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The width of the proposed island was discussed next. Mr. Garovitz stated, "It's eight feet
(8') wide and he talked about a two-foot (2') berm. That will actually change a little bit.
When you get to the end it will be about two and one half feet (2 12') - you can't go much
higher because the cars are going to be turning."
Mr. Garovitz also said to the City Commission that "We hired the landscape architect by
the way, who did Alaqua and did Heathrow. We went out and found the best guy that we
could and what he told us is that you will end up with a roll, you really can't have a full
berm. But he said that there would be a difference between an at-grade planting versus
something with a roll, not a big berm and he thought that given the eight feet (8'), that
was the best presentation. That was his professional opinion. So we told him to go with
that. "
Commissioner McLeod stated that "I did not see any treelil1es other than until you get to
the corner showing a tree in the corner" - "Along the front of 434." Mr. Garovitz
responded, "The landscape architect suggested annuals and colorful - plants. His
recommendation was to do this kind of thing." Mr. Garovitz pointed along the drawing
and said that it would go to about two and one half feet (2 12') - "In the middle and have
almost like a - I don't want to say a residential entry feature, but something in that
nature." Commissioner McLeod added, "What I have seen a lot of communities doing in
order to soften the look of these stations along the corridors is naturally try to treeline
them so that it does appear that it is back in the trees. I don't see that on this corridor."
Mr. Garovitz explained, "The recommendation was really to not have trees in front, but to
have the berm and the plantings." Commissioner McLeod asked whose recommendation
this was. Mr. Garovitz then said, "The landscape architect." Commissioner McLeod
then said to Mr. Garovitz, "Would you go back and ask him about possibly some trees on
the front" to soften the look.
Commissioner McLeod then inquired about the water fountain feature. Specifically,
Commissioner McLeod asked Mr. Garovitz, "How are you going to keep it maintained to
be something that doesn't look like it was a fountain on a building that had the water shut
off?" Mr. Garovitz stated, "Well, that's something we'll look at, and maybe we'll do it
with different and more dressed up landscaping, but we'll take a look at that."
Commissioner Blake spoke of his concerns with keeping the landscaping looking great
and asked Mr. Garovitz, "What sort of steps are you willing to take to make sure that
what is depicted to us in nice 4-color - photos - is what we would actually see, and what
the neighbors around the station, indeed the customers would see?" Mr. Garovitz
responded, "The difference between this and probably almost every other development, is
that we are going to enter into a specific Developer's Agreement that is going to give the
City enforcement rights well above what would ordinarily be the minimum Code
Enforcement rights." Mr. Garovitz added, "We'll get with the Attorney and agree to
some stipulated fines and self help and other things, so that the City will be comfortable
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that what you see is what you are going to get. The other thing which is not legally
binding is a technical matter - I can tell you that Mr. McLemore took a tour of this
operator's stations all over town and they don't let them get run down. That's not to say
that they wouldn't in the future change the policy."
Commissioner Blake then asked about the east elevation (from Hayes Road) which had
not been included in the packet of information given to the Commission. Mr. Garovitz
stated, "When you come up along Hayes, you'll have two (2) more of these architectural
features, I don't know what it's called - and more heavily landscaped areas. There will be
one here and one here so it will look like an entry feature. I have assumed although I
have not specifically spoken to the architect that the fayade on the building here would
have similar treatment over here - I don't want to tell you it will be identical, but I can
tell you it will be similar." Commissioner Blake stated, "I would hope that it would be at
least as nice, and possibly even nicer since that is the side of the building that would be
more exposed than the west side."
Regarding signage, Mr. Garovitz pointed out the location of the "Name" sign and added,
"The rest of the signage package will be done with - to meet your Code." Commissioner
Blake then said to Mr. Garovitz, "You understand that if we decide that we like this
landscape plan and if we were to go forward, that that sign would specifically not be an
approved location - that can only happen in and of itself." Mr. Garovitz stated, "Sure."
The height of the canopy was the next issue discussed and Mr. Garovitz briefly explained
that through their due diligence, "You really do need it for safety purposes to be sixteen
feet (16')." Discussion.
Manager McLemore said to Mr. Garovitz, "The only way you are going to solve that
problem out on the front and I mentioned this to you in a meeting, is I would at least like
to see the option of a small amount of hardscape along the front, which would mean
maybe a two foot (2') fence-like structure that breaks that up - I think a small amount of
brick that gives you a footwall." Manager McLemore added, "It would give you the
break between the street that you are looking for, and there would be plantings behind it
and maybe incorporated in it." Managyr McLemore then said that "I would at least like
to seek that option on paper, and I think it would be - it can be done and I would be more
than happy to talk with him."
Regarding trees along State Road 434, Deputy Mayor Gennell said to Mr. Garovitz, "I
would just ask you to have something at least representative of the pictures you are
showing us here." Furthennore, Deputy Mayor Gennell stated, "Just keep the trees up
where they are sizeable - that's all I ask."
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Commissioner Miller then commented on the suggested height of the canopy and stated,
"I would like to see some of this - notification that you are talking about which has to be
displayed when we go to a fourteen foot (14') canopy." Further, Commissioner Miller
stated, "I also feel that we need more trees which brings me to my next point of how to
accomplish that." Commissioner Miller also thought that the concept of the footwall was
a good idea. Additionally, Commissioner Miller suggested that "Between the edge of the
green space and the back of the - proposed store, and that just seems like it may be
something that could be looked at, to move the building back five (5) or six feet (6') and
haT.'e only a ten (10) or fifteen (15) opening in the back, large enough for an automobile to
get through, and then move the pumps and the building back which would give you a lot
of space up in the front to attend to trees that would really make this site look - I think
much better in the end."
Commissioner Martinez said, "There is a lien of $44,000.00 by the City of Winter
Springs, running at the rate of $250.00 a day in fines, and there is a case in court which
Code Enforcement has taken there. I don't know how much the total amount is to date
but it has grown considerably and I would like to ask the applicant if you have paid the
City lien?" Mr. Garovitz stated, "I don't know the answer to that." Commissioner
Martinez then asked, "Do you know if you have paid any of the liens on that property
prior to you acquiring ownership?" Mr. Garovitz responded, "Obviously, all that will
have to be dealt with in the context of building permits. I don't know the answer."
Commissioner McLeod spoke of the height of traffic lights and the proposed canopy
height that Mr. Garovitz stated should be at a height of sixteen feet (16'). Commissioner
McLeod asked Mr. Garovitz - if the City could show that a low height was acceptable and
not required, would you "Go back to them and see about fourteen feet (14')?" Mr.
Garovitz stated, "Sure." Commissioner McLeod then commented about the "Height and
the clearance of the stop lights" and said to Manager McLemore, "I would like to have
you confirm that with DOT, if you would please, or have Kip [Kip ton D. Lockcuff, P.E.,
Public WorkslUtility Department Director] - the Department of Transportation can tell us
the height requirement for the stop lights." Mr. Garovitz added, "If it's fourteen-six
(14'6") - that's no problem."
Regarding the two-foot (2') wall, Commissioner McLeod suggested that he would be
concerned with the wall getting infested with algae, as a result of the involvement of an
irrigation system and the landscaping.
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Commissioner McLeod - suggested, "A single directional one way around that building
which would enable there to be more "Width at the street." Commissioner McLeod
further recommended the need for "That turning radius and space" and added, "I would
be very much in favor of seeing if you can't slide the building back and have a single
directional behind the building."
"UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TRASH DUMPSTER WILL BE AS FAR
AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? - THEN,
MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF
TO CONTINUE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, BRING BACK THE
ISSUES THAT WE HAD TONIGHT, IN FACT - I THINK IT MIGHT BE
BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO BRING BACK NEXT TIME, A DRAFT
DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH TWO (2) SEPARATE LANDSCAPE
IDEAS, IF THEY MIGHT - ONE INCLUDING THAT HARDSCAPE ISSUE
THAT THE MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THE OTHER, MORE IN
LINE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER McLEOD - WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT TOTAL REDRAW HERE, WE'RE JUST MAYBE TALKING ABOUT A
LITTLE EXTRA HERE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY THERE AND BRING
THAT BACK WITH THE IDEA THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL
MAKE A FINAL DECISION - HOPEFULLY, CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT, BUT
HOPEFULL Y MAKE THE FINAL DECISION WHETHER TO ENTER INTO A
DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT OR TO GO AND DISCUSS THE VESTED
RIGHTS ISSUE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE
DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
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III. CONSENT
CONSENT
A. Finance Department
Requesting The Commission Approve Resolution 2002-02 Which Authorizes The
City To Establish And Maintain Accounts With Bank Of America And Designates
The City Manager, Finance Director And The City Treasurer As Authorized
Representatives To Execute Documentation Required By The Bank.
CONSFNT
B. Community Development Department - Building Division
Presents To The City Commission For Its Consideration An Interlocal Agreement
Entitled "Local Compliance Review Board Of The Florida Building Code Interlocal
Agreement" Which Would Establish A Countywide Compliance Review Board As
Required Under The Impending Florida Building Code.
CONSENT
C. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission Adopt Resolution Number 2002-05 Which
Supplements Resolution 2001-48, Authorizing And Approving The Negotiated Sale
Of $3.4 Million In City Of Winter Springs, Florida Limited General Obligation
Bonds, Series 2002; Authorizes The Sale To Our Underwriters And Appoints The
Paying Agent And Registrar.
CONSENT
D. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The Minutes Of The January 28, 2002 Regular City Commission
Meeting.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT
AGENDA." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Partyka called a break at 9:38 p.m.
The Meeting reconvened at 9:54 p.m.
Commissioner Miller returned to the Commission Chambers at 9:55 p.m.
v. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The First Reading
Of Ordinance 2002-03 That Would Annex A 4.88 Acre lParcel, Owned By Wayne P.
And Robin R. Roberts.
Mr. Earnest McDonald, AICP, Advance Planning Coordinator Community Development
Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Mayor Partyka stated, "I need a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" and added, "The only thing that we are
gO~Ilg to need to get is a metes and bounds legal description of the property, which Staff
is in the process of doing before advertising this Ordinance for Second and Final
Reading."
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Brief discussion.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one addressed the Commission.
The "Public input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Brief discussion ensued on enclaves.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO MOYE ITEM 'c' TO SECOND READING AND TO -
ADD TO IT THE METES AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The First Reading
Of Ordinance 2002-01 That Would Assign A Future Land Use Map (FLUM)
Designation Of (City Of Winter Springs) "Industrial" To The Properties Totaling
6.5 Acres, Located North And South Of Nursery Road And Adjacent To U.S.
Highway 17/92.
Commissioner Blake said, "Point of Order" and asked that Regular Agenda Item "e"
along with Public Hearings "D" and "E" be handled at the same time.
Mayor Partyka stated, "I need a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOYED." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion ensued on various neighboring properties and their designations.
Mr. Phil Reece, 681 Virginia Drive, Winter Park, Florida: addressed the Commission on
neighboring parcels, and land use designations.
Manager McLemore suggested, "I recommend that we Table this matter to the next
Meeting." Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez stated, "Point of Order" and commented on the land use
classifications.
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake explained that "My real concern here is -
it's the issue of transition, and the issue of whether or not a 'C-2' - just for Zoning and
'Industrial' Land Use designation is suitable on property that - currently has a Land Use
designation of 'Low Density Residential' and most specifically if property adjacent to
currently existing and developed 'Low Density Residential' is suitable for us to zone and
plc:.ce a Land Use designation of 'Industrial. ",
"MY FIRST MOTION WOULD BE TO POSTPONE UNTIL FEBRUARY 25TH,
2002, CONSIDERATION OF 1st READING OF ORDINANCE 2002-01 -
PRESERVING OUR ADVERTISEMENT FOR PUBlLIC HEARING." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
E. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2002-02 To Rezone A 6.2-Acre Tract, Located On Nursery Road On The
East Side Of U.S. 17-92, From (County) C-2 "Retail Commercial", C-3 "General
Commercial & Wholesale", And R-I-A "Single Family Dwelling" District To (City)
C-2 "Industrial."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE UNTIL -
FEBRUARY 25TH, 2002, THE CONSIDERATION OF 1ST READING OF
ORDINANCE 2002-02, PRESERVING ADVERTISING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
C. Community Development Department
Requesting Commission Consider And Approve A Development Agreement For A
6.2-Acre Tract At The Northeast Corner Of The Intersection Of U.S. 17-92 And
Nursery Road.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL - FEBRUARY
25TH, 2002, THE CONSIDERATION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS AND THE PROPERTY
OWNERS ON THE U.S. 17-92 AND NURSERY ROAD PARCELS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka stated, "Based on the background that goes back almost a year ago on the
Talmo Street or Talmo Road area - we have told those people, they had requested that
they would like to be considered for annexation into the City of Winter Springs, and I
only this evening found out that we have not made any efforts at all to get them
information to understand the whole annexation process. And, I thought that was being
done. So, Ms. Slack basically said she would coordinate getting - information, and I
thought that was there a year ago. So, whatever it is that we could give her, at least for
that group to consider annexation - to apply for annexation."
Manager McLemore advised Mayor Partyka that "All of our inquiries with people on
Talmo was they were not interested after they got what they wanted from us." Mayor
Partyka added, "Ms. Slack, you said you would 'coordinate, again, follow-up on that from
a year ago. You just call up either Mr. Carrington - or Mr. McLemore." Manager
McLemore stated, "We'd be happy to accommodate you."
REGULAR
B. Information Services Department
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Various Documents Being Placed
Or The City's \Veb Site And Request That The Commission Determine The Length
Of Time Those Documents Are To Be Left On The Web Site.
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Information Services Department Director addressed the Commission
on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Partyka asked Ms. Dalka "What's your recommendation?" Ms. Dalka stated, "I
can keep them up there for two (2) years - and that's my recommendation."
Discussion ensued on related costs and work products.
"MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR PARTYKA CLARIFIED THAT THE TIME BEING RECOMMENDED
BY STAFF IS "TWO (2) YEARS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
F. Police Department
Requesting The Commission To Give Approval To Purchase Used Crown Victoria
Police Vehicles From Mears Motor Leasing Of Orlando, Florida.
MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, "WE CAN, IF YOU WANT COMMISSION, IF
YOU ALL AGREE - TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
G. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission, In Its Capacity As The Development Review
Committee (DRC), The Final Engineering And Site Plan For The Tuskawilla Office
Park.
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Mr. Carrington and Mr. John Baker, AICP, Current Planning Coordinator, Community
Development Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Tape 3/Side B
Discussion ensued with Ms. Sandy Bierly of CRC Development and Mayor Partyka.
Mayor Partyka reviewed the earlier concerns mentioned under "Public Input" and said to
Ms. Bierly: "On the brick wall, that they liked it, but to make sure it is on the plans."
With confirn1ation by Mr. Baker, Mayor Partyka said, "So that is in the plans then."
Commissioner Blake stated, "I would like the brick wall to be depicted in the Developer's
Agreement, as wel1."
Meyor Partyka then said, "Even though theoretically or technically that's not residential,
that strip, that this Commission or the developer consider that residential adjacent to
this." Mayor Partyka added, "They purchased that piece of property, it's going to be
annexed into the City and the whole idea was it's just an extension of their residential
property, so - I just want to make sure that's the consideration by this Commission."
Mayor Partyka then said, "So from the developer's standpoint, I am assuming you are
considering this piece that is adjacent to them as residential?" Ms. Bierly stated, "I let the
piece go, didn't include it with my site plan, to give further distance from my piece to
there. "
Next, Mayor Partyka stated, "Ten foot (10') buffer, north of the brick wall - they had a
concern about the road being too close to the wal1." Ms. Bierly stated, "There is not
another inch to spare on this piece. I am not able to accommodate that." Ms. Bierly then
said, "If! could plant trees in there, that's exactly what I want to do - that's exactly what
1 will do."
Regarding the dumpster, Mayor Partyka commented, "They had a concern about that it
may be too close to the homes, and they had - requested to be able to move it to the north
end." Ms. Bierly said, "If I can relocate it to the area where the emergency exit is, then I
might try to do that. But at this point, this is fully engineered, this site, way over budget
- 1'd rather not go back - if we can do it as an as-built, take a look at it as the site gets
developed and the City will allow that, I would like to accommodate."
Mayor Partyka then asked, "Where is the sewer easement? They had a question on the
easement?" Ms. Bierly responded, "Yes, it's coming from Oak Forest."
Parking concerns were discussed next and Mayor Partyka inquired of Ms. Bierly,
"Parking slots - are there enough? Too much - parking spots. They had a concern on
whether it was planned for a one-story, two-story?" Ms. Bierly explained, "I believe we
have justified our parking to Staffs satisfaction and I had asked and the Commission
approved in the preliminary, that we didn't have to do two-story's on 5 through 11 and
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that was approved previously so it opens the door for us to do one or two-story. I don't
believe we will do two-story's there, but I didn't want to be - in could get an exception
to do one story's, that is what I wanted."
Mayor Partyka then asked, "Who is going to take care of the retention pond?" Ms. Bierly
answered, "The Association."
Commissioner B lake inquired, "Can we have the wall built prior to the..." Ms. Bierly
stated, "...1 can't answer that question, because typically we would not do it until we had
most of that large equipment out of there." Ms. Bierly added, "I would rather have the
separation as soon as possible, for my own sanity sake - if! can do it I will."
Further, Commissioner Blake said, "Is there a way we can agree to have the wall done
and accepted and approved prior to the - second pad being put down?" Ms. Bierly stated,
"The wall will definitely be finished, I will be out of there right - before these buildings
are built. Absolutely. - In seventy-five (75) days the infrastructure will be in and the
wall will be up - the landscaping will be in and there will be no buildings up yet."
Commissioner Blake then said, "Can we have that representation as part of the
Developer's Agreement?" Commissioner Blake further explained that "I am looking to
have the wall up and completed, prior to the majority, if not all of the elevation work -
the vertical - the point is that the folks - that live there in their houses, are looking to be
shielded from the construction activities, to the greatest extent possible." Ms. Bierly
responded, "I understand, I absolutely understand." Commissioner Blake then said, "I am
just asking for that to be made part of the Agreement that the wall will be completed prior
to some point - however we define that. And that point for me is before the first building
is built - that is what you just said, so I am just asking if we can put that as part of the
Agreement?" Ms. Bierly said "Fine with me." Manager McLemore said, "Prior to
vertica1." Ms. Bierly stated, "Fine - as long as the City cooperates with - building of the
wall, with the permitting."
Ms. Bierly then said, "I would like to be able to build on lot 4, as soon as possible, and
it's the furthest distance from them."
Regarding the landscape plan, Commissioner Blake spoke of the Oak trees "That are
predominately on the northern side of buildings 9, 10, 11, and then some that go all the
way to the very western edge of the property, over here on the other side of the retention
pond and then a few more that go around the circle - I think the circle is important to
maintain, but T am looking to have somehow, some additional trees placed along the
southern boundary - even if they are on the other side of the wall, on the south side of the
wall, if it's possible for us to find a way to do that, in those areas where it's really wide
open."
Commissioner Martinez departed the Meeting at 10:52 p.m.
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Discussion.
Ms. Bierly explained to the Commission, "The landscaping plan is subject to change - I
am sure it will change when we get on site, and the areas that don't need..." Ms. Bierly
added, "I want the flexibility when I am on site to make those decisions and I will
commit that I will shield those folks and put as many trees on my property and any place
where there is a deficit, that I would make a commitment to put something there on their
property. I don't know how enforceable that could be." Commissioner Blake suggested
that "Perhaps - the City could even be involved in that, because we are trying to facilitate
a win-win here also r think, and if that gets us closer to having an optimal development,
that's neighbor friendly as well..." Ms. Bierly stated, "...I'm fine with that.
Absolutely."
Commissioner Blake asked about the dumpster situation. Ms. Bierly stated, "I don't
think that based on the way that we have changed the entrance that you know, it has to
work engineering wise, and r can't say at this moment in time, but if I can change it, I
will." Ms. Bierly added, "If T can move it, I wil1." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake
said, "I have a real serious problem with it being where it is currently depicted, and there
is - I am sure that we could come up with at least a couple of other alternatives here..."
Ms. Bierly then said, "As long as it doesn't hold up my site permit, I will change this.
But to go back, and if it is something we can do in the field, we will change it."
Commissioner Blake said, "I would have to have an agreement that it's not going to be
along this residential line." Ms. Bierly remarked, "That's fine."
"MOTION TO EXTEND FOR ONE (1) HOUR." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Blake said to Ms. Bierly, "The easement that was vacated, this drawing
includes the fifteen feet (15') of it or the half of it - the northern half?" Ms. Bierly stated,
"Yes. I hope so." Commissioner Blake then said, "How will we know? I mean you are
sure." Ms. Bierly stated, "Yes."
Discussion ensued on buffers.
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Commissioner McLeod suggested that in the future regarding Developer's Agreements,
that "There ought to be - here's the Code Commissioners, here is what we are asking for
in the Developer's Agreement, rather than we Commissioner's have to dig through this."
Further, Commissioner McLeod said, "What you are putting in the Development
Agreement and what Code pOliion we are giving up, I think the Commission ought to be
aware of what they are giving up, and what they are getting."
Buffers and the distance from the buildings was further discussed.
Deputy Mayor Gennell departed the Meeting at J J :07 p.m.
Commissioner McLeod stated, "I think that we really need to be very sensitive to what is
going along that wall - r wish there was a way to get some plantings in there."
Commissioner McLeod added, "The six (6) homes between - buildings 8 and 10 - that's
one of the areas that I think definitely - you are talking about a six foot (6') wall and
that's all you have got, and other than that you are looking right at the building, and you
are also looking at the street lights - you are going to have street lighting here at night?"
Ms. Bierly stated, "Yes." Commissioner McLeod then said, "So it is going to light those
back yards also?" Ms. Bierly explained, "Not from what the Florida Power tells me- no,
there is lighting that I can put in there that will - not affect neighboring properties."
Further discussion followed on lighting. Ms. Bierly stated, "I intend to bury the lines
from in front of the whole property." Ms. Bierly added, "And we have done the same
thing in Avery Park."
Issues dealing with trees and the dumpster were further discussed. Commissioner Blake
stated, "As far as how many trees, T would rather define it, in terms of the type of benefit
that is provided." Manager McLemore suggested that "We could sit down with Mike
Mingea [Arborist/Environmental Inspector, Code Enforcement Division, Community
Development Department] and work through some of these things." Commissioner
Blake was in agreement with this.
Ms. Bierly suggested, "What if move forward with this, with the idea that the next
Commission Meeting - allow construction to begin and the site plan, or the landscaping
plan is going to be amended anyway - I know that right now, because there are things I'll
change when we are on site and come back to you at the next Commission - and say, this
is how many trees it took - and work it out with the neighbors?" Discussion.
Commissioner Blake suggested, "My best recommendation would be to have a spacing
formula, and it looks like these trees that are in here are currently about thirty feet (30')
on center, and - I would think that if you went to, in the areas were there aren't trees
along the southern boundary, if you put additional trees in there at forty-five feet (45') on
center, that that would give each homeowner, on the other side, at least one (1) tree and in
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most cases, two (2) trees if there wasn't a tree - in terms of what they see when they look
om back." Ms. Bierly said, "That's fine."
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Commissioner Blake added, "It \vould be in the Developer's Agreement - we would want
to draw on here, Charles (Carrington) - and make this part of the Developer's Agreement
understanding that - I know that the landscape plan is going to be amended as we get
there, but that will be one portion of it that we will have already settled on." Ms. Bierly
stated, "Fine."
Commissioner McLeod added, "So you are really talking putting these trees to the south
of the wall, is that correct?" Ms. Bierly stated, "Correct." Commissioner McLeod then
suggested, "I would say that based upon that the owner would have to agree with a tree
being put on their property." Ms. Bierly agreed and said, "Right."
Discussion followed on the size of trees with Commissioner McLeod asking, "What size
is this tree?" Ms. Bierly responded to Commissioner McLeod's question and stated, "I
would say six (6) to seven feet (7')." Ms. Bierly added, "I would like to put the kind of
trees that they would like in their back yard, it's going to be their back yard, but if you
want to dictate something that could be flexible to what they want, that's fine."
Commissioner Blake said, "I think our discussion was based on the trees that are already
being placed along the south em border to continue with those, which according to this
would be the Oaks that are fourteen (14) to sixteen feet (16') by sixty-seven feet (67')
tall, three and one-half (3 Yz) to four inch (4") caliper, sixty-five (65) gallon..." Ms.
Bierly inteIjected, ".. .So that becomes part of my tree replacement, total tree
replacement? All right. Fine." Commissioner McLeod suggested that "You would have
to get this arrangement and put the trees in - I would suggest, before the wall goes in."
Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod stated, "You should have it in writing, so that they
sign something that says they do not want anymore trees in their yard." Manager
McLemore stated, "That won't be a problem."
Landscape care was next discussed. Ms. Bierly offered, "What if I make a monetary
donation to each one of those people, write them a check." Commissioner McLeod
suggested ways to resolve the problems associated with maintaining the trees and
suggested that a ninety (90) day warranty might be best.
Commissioner Miller proposed, "Could we table this until the next Meeting, and have
Staff bring back some proposals."
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Commissioner McLeod suggested that the City Manager and the City Attorney figure out
thE. best solution to this problem. Commissioner McLeod then said, "I would also try to-
Ron, 1'd look at least at some kind of ninety (90) day agreement, that if they put trees
there, they make sure that they are handled."
Manager McLemore said, "I think you can get your standard warranty, as long as they
know the tree has been planted cOlTectly, and they are being watered correctly. We'll
look at it."
Attorney Garganese stated, "With respect to the approval of the engineering plans there
were going to be certain conditions that need to be added to the Development
Agreement." Attorney Garganese added, "Make sure that you make the Final
Engineering Plans contingent upon all of those additional conditions being added to the
Development Agreement."
RRr.ULAR J
H. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve A Binding Development Agreement
Between CHC Development And The City Of Winter Springs For The Development
Of Tuskawilla Office Park.
Ms. Bierly added, "That is incolTect - it is between Tuskawilla Office Park, LLC and the
City of Winter Springs." Commissioner Blake asked Ms. Bierly, "The text in the
agreement is COITect?" Ms. Bierly stated, "Yes, it is."
"THIS IS ITEM 'H' WHICH IS A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS AND TUSKAWILLA OFFICE PARK, LLC, I
MOVE APPRO V AL OF THE AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE ADDITIONS
AND CHANGES THAT \VERE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, FEBRUARY 11,
2002, INCLUDING THE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY THE DEVELOPER
AND COMMENTS OF STAFF." COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "AND THE
CHA..l\JGES IN THE ENGINEERING PLAN AS WELL."
ATTOR.'lEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED THAT THE FOLLOWING BE
INCLUDED: ADDRESSING THE BRICK WALL IN THE DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT - "THE WALL HAS TO BE BUILT PRIOR TO VERTICAL -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF - 4. THE DUMP PAD HAS TO BE MOVED..."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "...THE DUMP PAD ON THE SOUTH
PROPERTY LINE." ATTORNEY GARGANESE CONTINUED, "LIGHTING,
NO GLARE ON OAK FOREST. WE ARE GOING TO PUT A PROVISION IN
FOR THAT. THERE \-VAS A REFERENCE TO ATTACHING THE
LANDSCAPE PLAN..." COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "...ATTACH A
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LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE ADDITIONAL TREES BEING PLACED AT
FORTY-FIVE FEET (45') ON CENTER; THOSE BEING THE SAME TYPE OF
OAK TEES THAT ALREADY ARE LISTED ON THE DEVELOPER'S -
LANDSCAPE PLAN - THOSE TREES COULD OCCUR SOUTH OF THE
PROPERTY LINE THROUGH AN AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY WOULD
ASSIST WITH, WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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G. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission, In Its Capacity As The Development Review
Committee (DRC), The Final Engineering And Site Plan For The Tuskawilla Office
Park.
"ITEM 'G' - THIS IS THE DRC, THE CITY COMMISSION SITTING AS THE
DRC, REVIE\VING THE FINAL ENGINEERING AND SITE PLAN FOR THE
TUSKA\VILLA OFFICE PARK, I MOVE APPROVAL CONTINGENT UPON-
ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT \VE HAD TONIGHT - THE PLAN BEING
AMENDED TO REPRESENT AND REFLECT ALL THOSE AGREEMENTS
MADE TONIGHT AND SUBJECT TO ALL THE CHANGES AND ADDITIONS
MADE TO THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
I. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission As The Development Review Committee Approve
The Final Development/Engineering Plans For The Proposed Tuskawilla Office
Park Subdivision.
Brief discussion.
"I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN
SUBJECT AGAIN TO ALL THE CHANGE AND DISCUSSIONS,
MODIFICATIONS, ALTERATIONS THAT WERE AGREED UPON TONIGHT
AND THAT OCCUR IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AS AMENDED
THIS EVENING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
With discussion, Ms. Bierly said, "If a dumpster is going to hold me up, then I'll say I
will eliminate it and come back at another time to adjust my site plan."
Mayor Partyka summarized, "So basically she is saying, "Approve it - they will approve
it without the dumpster which is fine. Okay, then it is up to her to come back at another
time to request of this Commission the siting of those dumpsters." Commissioner
McLeod stated, "I would be opposed to that. I would prefer to see that we know right
where it is going."
Commissioner McLeod then suggested, "Let them have it - within two (2) weeks from
now if you don't have the information you just get a 'Stop Work Order.' Can you follow
that through, Ron?" Manager McLemore stated, "Yes, indeed." But it sure should be on
the plans."
REGULAR
J. Community Development Department
Requests That The Commission Approve The Recordation Of The Plat And
Supplemental Covenants For Avery Park.
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"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECORDATION OF THE PLAT
AND SUPPLEMENTAL COVENANTS FOR AVERY PARK." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED THAT BElFORE DEPUTY MAYOR
GENNELL HAD LEFT SHE HAD ASKED THAT THE FOLLOWING
INFORMATION BE DOCUMENTED IN THE RECORD: "DEPUTY MAYOR
GENNELL HAS REQUESTED THAT A REQUIREMENT BE ADDED TO THE
DOCUMENTS FOR A RESERVE FUND FOR REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT."
MS. BIERLY STATED, "YES. JOHN (BAKER) I BELIEVE WILL GIVE ME A
FORMAT THAT YOU ALL HAVE ACCEPTED MAYBE WITH PARKSTONE,
AND WE WILL HAVE THAT PAGE CHANGED IN THE COVENANTS."
FURTHER, ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED - WE PUT A CONFLICT PROVISION
IN THE DOCUMENTS TO ENSURE THAT LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL
LAW PREVAIL IN THE EVENT OF ANY CONFLICTS WITH YOUR PRIVATE
DEED RESTRICTIONS." ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "I WOULD
RECOMMEND BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN PARK AND RECREATION
AREAS DEDICATED FOR RECREATIONAL USES, WE WOULD WANT AN
ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY DEPRIVATION OF THAT RECREATIONAL
SPACE, SO - THE CITY 'VOULD BE THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARY IN THE
DOCUMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THAT LAND STAYS PERPETUALLY AS
RECREATIONAL AREA - AND I CAN GET WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE
LANGUAGE WITH THOSE PROVISIONS." ATTORNEY GARGANESE
ADDED, "IN ADDITION, IT GOES IN THE DECLARATIONS AND
COVENANTS."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID TO MS. BIERLY, "WHERE YOUR BENCHES
ARE LOCATED ON THE LAKE, WE NEED TO DO SOME RE-GRADING IN
FRONT OF THAT" TO GET RID OF THE DOWNWARD SLOPE. MS. BIERLY
ADDED, "I WAS GOING TO DO BENCHES LIKE THEY DO DOWN AT
CELEBRATION, WHERE THEY DON'T - YOU CAN FACE EITHER WAY."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WE NEED
TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE THERE."
FURTHER, MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "I STILL WANT TO TRY TO GET
THOSE OTHER TWO (2) BENCHES SITES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
LAKE." MS. BIERLY ADDED, "WE WANT TO HAVE BENCHES BACK
THERE." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "OKAY, VERY GOOD. IT IS ON
THE RECORD."
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COMMISSIONER McLEOD SUGGESTED THAT IN "TRACT 'E' ACCESS
BACK THERE - IN THE VERY BACK - YOU GO DOWN TRACT 'J' TO THE
BACK, THAT RETAINER WALL IS ABOUT TWO FEET (2') HIGH - BUT
THAT RETAINER WALL, RON, IS LEANING." MS. BIERLY STATED, "IT'S
BEING RE-DONE." COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "THAT WALL IS
DEFINITELY LEANING." MS. BIERLY EXPLAINED, "YES - THEY'RE
HAViNG TO RE-DO IT, I THINK THEY HAVE TO T AKE THAT WHOLE
ALLEY BACK OUT AGAIN. THAT AREA HAS TO COME OUT." MANAGER
McLEMORE SAID, "WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND WE ARE GOING TO BE
DEALING WITH IT."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION TO INCORPORATE
THE COMMENTS MADE BY STAFF AND THE APPLICANT." AMENDMENT
TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
L. Community Development Department
Requesting That The Commission Consider And Approve A Development
Agreement For A 16.64 Acre Tract Located On State Road 434 Just West Of The
U.S. Post Office Retention Pond.
Mr. Carrington briefly introduced the Agenda Item.
Manager McLemore stated, "I did talk to Mr. Daly earlier today and that it is that we add
to this the requirement for a fencing along the roadway, on the left hand side, going in."-
Mr. Tom Daly, Daly Design Group, Inc., 861 West Morse Boulevard, Suite 125, Winter
Park, Florida: answered questions and concerns from the Commission and Manager
McLemore.
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Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT WITH THE
AMENDMENT AS WAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT RE: THE FENCING OR SOME
SORT OF AN ORNAMENTATION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE
ROADWAY HEADED IN FROM THE PAVILION OR GAZEBO RATHER, TO
THE GUARDHOUSE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Partyka adjourned the Meeting at 12:05 a.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE FOLLOWING
ITEMS DURING THIS MEETING. .:..:.
IV. INFORMATIONAL
INFORMATiONAL
A. Community Development Department
Requests The Commission As The Development Review Committee Receive
Information Related To A Change In Layout For The Recreational Area In Avery
Park Subdivison.
INFORMATIONAL
B. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission To Receive Information Regarding The HCCH
Closing.
INFORMATIONAL
C. Not Used.
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INFORMATIONAL
D. Office Of The City Manager
Advising The Commission Of Oviedo's Response To A Request For A Joint Meeting
To Discuss Location Of A Hospital In Oviedo.
VII. REPORTS
REI>ORTS
A. City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
REPORTS
B. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
REPORTS
C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
REPORTS
D. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Cindy Gennell
REPORTS
E. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
REPORTS
F. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
REPORTS
G. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
REPORTS
II. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
REPORTS
I. Office Of The Mayor - Paul P. Partyka
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the f-ebruary 25, 2002 Regular City Commission Meeting.