HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2008 02 11 City Commission Regular MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 11, 2008 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE
DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • •
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor And City Commission/City Manager
Presentation By Seminole County Commissioner Bob Dallari.
Seminole County Commissioner Bob Dallari, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida:
explained, "The reason for this Program is for economic enhancement. It improves the
environment and the quality of life -what this Program does is it enhances capital
investment; it does job creation; it does a tax base and increases the tax revenue; and
provides redevelopment and economic effects. It better utilizes the community resources.
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The core of this Program, from the State perspective as well as the Federal perspective is
a Brownfield site and Brownfield area designation. It's a designation. We're not
categorizing it as that. What the State allows us is to do is to rename it because it does
have a negative connotation; and we decided to rename this program as the S.E.E.D.
(Seminole Economic Enhancement District) Program. It has more of a positive,
proactive connotation to it."
Seminole County Commissioner Dallari then stated, "I would like to before I move too
much further, with the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency), Robert Miller of your
Commission was also a part of that. I would like to thank Robert Miller publicly for the
hard work that he has done on that."
Next, Seminole County Commissioner Dallari noted, "This is basically a Brownfield
designation. We're not actually categorizing it as Brownfield. It does bonus tax
refunding for new job creations, up to twenty-five hundred dollars ($2,500.00) per job. If
you are in this corridor, there is an actual form you have to fill out so that if you have a
particular type of job, in a particular salary range you can actually qualify for that if .you
are bringing those types of jobs into that Brownfield or S.E.E.D. (Seminole Economic
Enhancement District) Program.
It does guaranteed Loans, up to fifty percent (50%) of the Loans are guaranteed for a
rehabilitation of development and also seventy-five percent (75%) for Affordable
Housing. The real interesting part about it - it actually gives you back the sales tax for
Affordable Housing if you do twenty percent (20%) of the Project which is Affordable."
Commissioner Rick Brown asked Seminole County Commissioner Dallari, "Are there
requirements on what types of properties could be declared a redevelopment area?"
Seminole County Commissioner Dallari responded, "Basically, what we have done with
the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency), which is up and down (US Highway)
17-92, we've used the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) boundaries as that
corridor. The City of Winter Springs could easily do the Town Center."
Furthermore, Seminole County Commissioner Dallari added, "The only cost to the City is
going to be the Staff cost and the publicizing it."
Mr. John Metsopoulos, US 17-92 CRA Program Manager, Seminole County, 1055 AAA
Drive, Suite 145, Heathrow, Florida: noted, "The City could opt out of the five hundred
dollar ($500.00) match. They do not have to do the five hundred dollar ($500.00)
match."
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore said to Mr. Metsopoulos, "The eligibility criteria,
you were going to get me copies of that." Mr. Metsopoulos responded, "I will get those
to you tomorrow, via email."
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Seminole County Commissioner Dallari in conclusion stated, "Please let us know or - my
staff know if there is any additional information you need. I would be more than happy
to get it for you."
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Hold A Public Hearing On Adoption Of
Resolution Number 2008-10 Designating The 17-92 CRA (Community
Redevelopment Area) District A Brownfield SEED (Seminole Economic
Enhancement District) Area.
Commissioner Brown inquired, "Do we need to do a Workshop then to discuss the
implications of doing this in the Town Center..." Mayor Bush noted, "...I think there are
other areas too..." Commissioner Brown suggested, "... SeminoleWAY." Mayor Bush
suggested, "Bring it up under your Seat."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese noted, "This is the only Reading and only Public
Hearing for this -Resolution. It was considered at a previous City Commission Meeting
where it was publicly announced that this Resolution would be brought forth, which is
consistent with the Statute."
"MOVE TO ADOPT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mr. Metsopoulos then inquired, "Who in the City will I will work with to get the
documentation back and forth?" Manager McLemore acknowledged Mr. Metsopoulos.
Mr. Metsopoulos added, "You? I will get you the criteria and then any documentation
needed to comply."
Brief discussion ensued on a Recess.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Proiects.
Brief discussion.
NFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department
Providing The City Commission With A Brief Summary Of Information Regarding
Green Buildings And LEED (Leadership In Energy And Environmental Design)
Certification, As Previously Directed By The Commission.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission That The Date Of The Celebration Of
Spring Is Changed From March 16, 2008 To March 30, 2008.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MOTION.
SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting That The City Commission Formally Approve A Partial Release Of
Blanket Easement In Furtherance Of The Previously Approved Mediated
Settlement Agreement In The Case Of Roy v. City Of Winter Springs, Florida Power
& Light And Seville Chase Homeowners Association.
With brief discussion, Attorney Garganese noted, "It is a partial Release of Easement and
-this Release only affects the property that the City conveyed to the Roy's." Attorney
Garganese added, "It would just include that strip that's adjacent to the current spray
fields that the City conveyed to the Roy's."
CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution Number 2008-11
Supporting The Florida League Of Cities Legislative Agenda For The 2008
Legislative Session. [And Resolution Number 200811A]
Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked, "Shouldn't there be an item in here that says, we
encourage the State Legislature to maybe encourage aone-cent (1 ¢) sales tax to back up -
not encourage one cent (1 ¢) sales tax but to put sales taxes behind our..." Mayor Bush
added, "...I think it is a good addition to this."
Mayor Bush added, "I have asked Mr. McLemore to put together a Resolution
[Resolution Number 2008-11A] to that effect, exactly what you just said Commissioner
and when we get that, we get that Approved and we will get the Commission to Approve
that as well."
Manager McLemore asked,. "If the Commission Approves that tonight, and it is limited to
that one thing, to encourage that, do we really need to bring it back to the Commission?"
Commissioner Miller stated, "No." Mayor Bush said, "No."
Furthermore, Manager McLemore noted, "We could do it and the Mayor signs it, on your
authority, I would hope."
Mayor Bush then explained, "So Commissioner, what you are recommending is we add -
backing up the SBA (State Board of Administration) Fund." Commissioner Miller
added, "Yes, I would like to see it put in here and just send it along and point out, maybe
make it in bold, and point out to the League, that the City of Winter Springs at least is
interested in seeing this happen."
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Furthermore, Mayor Bush remarked, "I will be taking that to the -Mayor and Managers
Meeting this week too, to see if we cannot get the other cities to buy in on that as well?
So, why don't you give us a Motion on that to make that addition to this..."
"...SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH COMMENTED THAT THE MOTION WAS "TO ADD
LANGUAGE CONCERNING - ENCOURGING THE LEGISLATURE TO BACK
UP THE SBA (STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION) FUND."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
202. Community Development Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase 227 Decorative Street Signs From Brandon
Industries Under GSA Contract (GS-25F-0007N) At A Cost Of $156,405.00 And To
Expend $22,246.00 For Installation As Part Of The Tuscawilla Lighting And
Beautification District (TLBD) Phase II Beautification Project.
Discussion followed with Mr. Steve Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division,
Community Development Department. Discussion ensued for the Record regarding
being under Budget.
Further discussion.
CONSENT
203. Utility/Public Works Department -Capital Projects Division
Requesting Approval For The Extension Of The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program
(HMGP) Agreement For Fire Station Number 24.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
204. Office Of The Mayor
Requests That The City Commission Review The Attached Information And
Approve That Our City Clerk, Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces Can Submit A Nomination
Packet To Run For Office On The Executive Board Of The Florida Association Of
City Clerks With Our Support.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Fire Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Accept A Check From Wal-Mart
Neighborhood Market #5132 Located At 5216 Red Bug Lake Road Winter Springs.
Brief discussion followed with Commissioner Sally McGinnis.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval of the January 17, 2008 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 28, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC INPUT WAS HEARD
NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Michael Altif, 1027 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
sidewalks in his community and possible problems with standing water and maintenance
issues related to sidewalks.
Mayor Bush stated, "This will probably come up for discussion when we do - `Seats'."
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Water Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of taxes
and taxable home values.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at S: 49 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 6:35 p. m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT
WAS HEARD NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Deedee Molnar: as the Publicity and Advertising Chair for the Relay for Life -
Winter Springs Event, Ms. Molnar asked about having a banner hung for the Relay for
Life -Winter Springs Event from May lst, (2008) to May 17`", (2008).
Mayor Bush noted this would also be discussed under Reports.
Discussion.
Manager McLemore returned to the Commission Chambers at 6:37 p.m.
Mr. Paul Partyka: addressed the City Commission on getting more "branding" for the
City, improving publicity, promoting area businesses in the Town Center, and an
advertising program for the City.
Commissioner Brown asked if someone from the Chamber could attend the Town Center
Merchants Association meetings. Mr. Partyka stated, "Okay."
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. • •
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
302. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-06 Expressing Appreciation To Guy
DeMaio For His Service As A Member Of The City Of Winter Springs Board Of
Trustees.
Mayor Bush presented Resolution Number 2008-06 to Mr. Guy DeMaio.
Mr. DeMaio addressed the City Commission and thanked them.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division Manager
Requesting To Make A Presentation To The City Commission Regarding The
Neighborhood Improvement Grant Program.
Mr. Richart spoke on this project.
Tapel/Side B
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
First, Manager McLemore commented on the SBA (State Board of Administration) Fund.
Secondly, Manager McLemore mentioned that Board of Trustees Member Mark Sardo
was in the hospital.
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REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs asked about for an update on the Fire Assessment Fees
issue. Manager McLemore gave a brief review and referenced a Fire Flow model and
mentioned, "They can bring those numbers back to us and -those Rate Schedules in your
first Meeting in March."
Next, Commissioner Krebs stated, "The first Meeting in March - we will have all the
figures?" Manager McLemore responded, "Yes -the first Meeting in March, we will be
bringing you the Ordinance and the first Rate Resolution, including that particular
methodology."
Mayor Bush said, "I want to compliment the Manager for calling them on Friday and
learning of this."
Next, discussion ensued on the requested Banner for the Relay for Life -Winter Springs
Event; to which Ms. Molnar stated, "I would be more than happy to bring you in a proof
of it."
Mayor Bush asked if the City should pass a Resolution in support of this Event?
Commissioner Krebs asked if we could co-sponsor the Event. Discussion.
Manager McLemore spoke of possibly needing Florida Department of Transportation
Approval and then suggested, "What I would like to see in the language is that you would
allow this since the City is going to be a co-sponsor of this, if you all are comfortable
with that, that in this like manner of other City Events, and let that be on the Record."
Additionally, Commissioner Brown said, "The City ought to be a co-sponsor of this and
second, we ought to do anything that we can to help advertise it and it does not have to be
in a monetary way, but I think a simple Resolution, whatever wording you want to put
around it that says, we are behind this and it is one of things that we do as a City."
Mayor Bush asked Ms. Molnar, "Do you want us to be a co-sponsor?" Ms. Molnar
stated, "Sure."
Commissioner Miller also noted his support with the City passing a Resolution.
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With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs asked Ms. Molnar if she had the authority
to ask the City to be a co-sponsor? With discussion, Manager McLemore said to Ms.
Molnar, "Send us a letter that I can attach to the file."
Discussion followed on what obligations there might be for the City and proceeding
cautiously.
Additionally, Manager McLemore remarked, "If I'm preparing a Resolution you are
going to have to come back -and take an action; so I am assuming by then, you can have
our answer, which would be at the next Commission Meeting."
With further discussion on the location of Winter Springs High School for the Event,
Manager McLemore stated, "Can we connect that to the Town Center in some way?"
Commissioner Brown responded, "Absolutely." Manager McLemore added, "You all
need to talk -come up with some kind of an evening Event related to that in the Town
Center." Ms. Molnar commented, "That would be great." Commissioner McGinnis
agreed.
Commissioner Brown then noted, "There is a brand new President for the Merchant's
Association which I would be happy to introduce you too." Ms. Molnar remarked,
"Okay." Manager McLemore suggested, "Have like a five o'clock Event, something like
that..." Commissioner Brown noted, "...Absolutely." Ms. Molnar said to Commissioner
Brown, "Give you a call this week?"
Discussion ensued on a location for hanging banners for future Events.
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "FOR A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
• Greater Oviedo Chamber Display Project
Discussion.
"MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then mentioned meetings he has arranged with area Legislators.
Discussion followed on Economic Development issues.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion continued on Innovation Way and problems related to issues with property in
this area. Commissioner Miller recommended that we consider the GreeneWay
Interchange District and SeiminoleWAY as a possible solution.
With further comments on tomorrow's SeminoleWAY Meeting, Mayor Bush suggested
that Mr. Partyka join them at their meeting. Mayor Bush added, "And I think we will
bring up Commissioner Miller's idea here; I think it is a good one. So we will address
that tomorrow Mr. Miller."
Manager McLemore said, "You approved last Commission Meeting, to go forward with a
study to address all these issues. We are trying to put a proposal together, for you to
make that happen where we look at all these issues. And, my suggestion to you is we
should follow the direction you have already established and you make it happen. So, I
will be bringing you, hopefully a proposal at the next Meeting." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Good." Mayor Bush also said, "Good."
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• Greater Oviedo Chamber Display Project
"MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush further reviewed information including the prices for both the gold or silver
level sponsorships.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller asked when the Agenda Item would come back related to St. Johns
River Water Management District and Easement on the Winter Springs Golf Course
property?
Attorney Garganese then asked, "Are you talking about conveying Conservation
Easements?" Attorney Garganese added, "You were looking for a list of organizations?"
Mayor Bush suggested, "First Meeting in April? Would that work?" Manager
McLemore stated, "Works for me."
Flood zone changes and related flood insurance issues were discussed next.
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REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
REGARDING THE S.E.E.D. (SEMINOLE ECONOMIC ENHANCEMENT
DISTRICT) PROGRAM, COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED, "I WILL MAKE
THE MOTION THAT WE TAKE IT TO A WORKSHOP." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "MY POINT WAS TO GO FORWARD WITH
THE TOWN CENTER AND THEN WE COULD STILL HAVE YOUR
WORKSHOP AND LOOK AT OTHER AREAS." MANAGER McLEMORE
ADDED, "YOUR COMMISSIONER IS TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP TO
DISCUSS OTHERS AREAS WE MIGHT WANT TO BRING INTO IT. WHAT I
WAS SPECIFYING WAS LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THE TOWN CENTER
BECAUSE - OF A COUPLE THINGS OUT THERE IN THE PIPELINE AND
STILL HAVE THE WORKSHOP."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on a proposed date for this Workshop. Mayor Bush suggested,
"March 3`d, (2008)." Commissioner Brown commented, "That works." Commissioner
Krebs remarked, "Okay." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." Commissioner
Brown suggested "6:00 p.m." Commissioner Krebs also suggested, "Six (o'clock)."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "Good."
With no objections noted, Mayor Bush summarized, "We will have a Workshop at six
o'clock, March the 3`d, (2008) on the S.E.E.D. (Seminole Economic Enhancement
District) Program here."
Commissioner Brown spoke about a Scottish Highlands Association meeting he and his
wife attended in which possible future plans were discussed; and then commented on a
music session held at the Winter Springs Town Center.
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Next, regarding the Amendment 1 Vote, Commissioner Brown inquired, "Has anybody
given any thought to a Workshop as to what our organized response is going to be as far
as re-looking at Budget items, cuts accordingly?"
Manager McLemore noted, "We're in pretty good shape unless they change that
legislation, that roll forward provision in the law. Now if they change that, then we're
going to be potentially affected by twelve million dollars; so I need to talk you all
through that."
Mayor Bush asked, "Could you do that on that same night we have the -Meeting in
March?" Manager McLemore stated, "Sure." Mayor Bush then asked, "Can we just
Commissioners, add that to our Agenda?" Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore stated,
"Yes." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I do not want it to be premature to the data."
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Gilmore mentioned a Byrne Grant Meeting he attended.
Next, Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked for update on the Cross Seminole Trail. With
comments, Manager McLemore "I would like to think within the next two (2) weeks we
could pull that together, if we finish getting all that information from the Engineer; we
can show you, I think, what all the issues are and -give you alternatives of which way we
think we can go on this thing."
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis asked for an update on red light cameras. Brief discussion.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis asked about the Lake Mary's Farmers Market which had
been brought up at a recent Council of Local Governments in Seminole County
[CALNO] Meeting and asked that we find out about who does their Farmer's Market.
Commissioner Brown mentioned that the one being held in Winter Springs is going to be
re-located to Tuskawilla Road and they will use the Lake Mary guidelines.
Discussion followed on the possible closing of Tuskawilla Road. Manager McLemore
mentioned, "If you are shutting down a road, the Commission will have to approve it."
The recent Lynx meeting held in Longwood was next brought up by Commissioner
McGinnis who suggested the City Commission be vigilant regarding this process.
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•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORTS WERE
DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE
REST OF THE AGENDA. ••
REPORTS
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Sidewalks in the Shetland Avenue area was further discussed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E.,
Engineer, Public Works Department.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore brought up Deer Run and said that some portions of the
sidewalks are missing and that he had mentioned it earlier.
Mr. Michael Altif, 1027 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
sidewalks in his community and residents opinions.
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush then referenced a letter from the Office of State Attorney and asked the City
Commission, "Would that be something we would want to ask Chief (Daniel J.) Kerr to
maybe give us a recommendation on?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "Absolutely."
Mayor Bush added, "If you have no objection, we will forward this on to the Chief and -
if he has someone, we will then officially Nominate them - we will have to do it -
`Outstanding Service Award' and `Victim Advocate', all these would be I think, would
go to the Chief, so Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk)..." With no objections noted,
Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "...Would you forward this then on to
the Chief?"
REGARDING THE OFFICE OF STATE ATTORNEY'S `ATTORNEY OF THE
YEAR' NOMINATION, "WHY COULDN'T WE NOMINATE HIM FOR THAT?
WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD. I MAKE THAT NOMINATION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "NOMINATE ANTHONY (GARGANESE) FOR
`ATTORNEY OF THE YEAR' THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE STATE
ATTORNEY."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "You will make sure that Anthony
(Garganese) gets that?"
Additionally, Mayor Bush mentioned receiving a letter from the Winter Springs High
School student government asking for a monetary donation for a scholarship "To reward
students who recognize the importance of working and fostering relationships in our
community." Discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
"I MOVE WE GIVE THEM FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00)." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner McGinnis asked for the information to be given out to the Commission for
individual donations.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs asked, "I wanted to revisit the Hugh E. Thomas Law Enforcement
Officer of the Year, and have we thought about actually nominating Dan (Kerr)?" Mayor
Bush noted, "We most certainly could."
"I MAKE THAT MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "MOTION TO NOMINATE CHIEF KERB FOR
THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT AWARD."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush added, "But we will still give the Chief the `Outstanding Service' and
`Victim Advocate Award' if he has anybody?" Commissioner McGinnis remarked,
"Yes."
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1 Office Of The City Manager
DELETED
Requesting City Commission Approve Final Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01 Which
Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The City Of
Winter Springs.
(This Agenda Item Has Been Deleted From The February 11, 2008 Regular Meeting
Agenda And Will Be Discussed On Monday, March 10, 2008.)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2 Office Of The City Manager
DELETED
Requesting City Commission Approve Resolution 2008-13 Which Provides For
Initial Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Springs.
(This Agenda Item Has Been Deleted From The February I1, 2008 Regular Meeting
Agenda And Will Be Discussed On Monday, March 10, 2008.)
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600.1 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider A Request From The Owners Of The West
End Professional Center One To Further Modify The First Modification To The
Binding Development Agreement For West End Professional Center One To Remove
The Requirement For A Significant Sculpture Or Fountain In Exchange For
Eliminating The Seat Walls On The Two Central Planters In Front Of The
Building.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on installing a fountain or sculpture.
Much discussion.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: addressed the City Commission.
Further discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY -WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS COMING UP
NEXT, BUT APRE-CONDITION OF THIS IS THAT WITHIN TWO (2) YEARS
THEY HAVE TO PUT IN A FOUNTAIN WHICH WOULD BE APPROVED BY
THE CITY COMMISSION, I GUESS, BUT WOULD NOT BE -
EXTRAORDINARY IN COST, IN OTHER WORDS, NOT SOMETHING
BOUGHT AT THE HOME DEPOT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE WITHIN TWO (2) YEARS ASK THE
OWNER TO PUT IN EITHER A FOUNTAIN OR A SCULPTURE UPON
APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese stated, "I have to go ahead and prepare a termination of the First
Modification of Agreement -that is the consequence of the Commission's decision
tonight so I will prepare that for the Mayor's signature and we will Record it."
Mayor Bush suggested, "Maybe they should sponsor an Event in the Town Center." Mr.
Starmer said, "I will let them know your request." Mayor Bush mentioned, "It is my
request, not the Commission's."
REGULAR
600.2 Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding The
West End Center Phase I Site To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The
Final Engineering Plans And To Accept The Potable Water And Sanitary Sewer
Infrastructure For Ownership And Maintenance.
Mr. Fields presented this Agenda Item.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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601. Not Used.
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602. Not Used.
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603. Community Development Department
Recommends The City Commission Consider Keeping Decorative Streetlights That
Were Installed In Error On Vistawilla Drive As Part Of The Tuscawilla Lighting
And Beautification District (TLBD) Phase 2 Beautification Project At A Cost Of
$240.00 Per Month To The City.
Mr. Richart spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller suggested, "I think we ought to tell them to pull the poles out and
put the cobra lights back in." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I do too." Commissioner
Krebs remarked, "That is right."
Discussion followed on who Mr. Richart spoke with. Mayor Bush then stated, "I would
like to ask the Commission to Table this and let me have a chance to talk to Dave Maxon
(Vice President, Progress Energy Florida, North Central Region)."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "MY TALKING TO HIM WOULD BE ALONG WHAT
COMMISSIONER MILLER HAS SAID, THAT -YOU PUT THEM IN BY
ERROR, LEAVE THEM THERE, WE WILL PAY THE LIGHT BILL ON THEM
JUST LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE AND IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO
DO THAT, THEN WE BRING IT BACK -EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT?"
COMMISSIONER KREBS COMMENTED, "YES." COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS STATED, "ABSOLUTELY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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604. Not Used.
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605. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Approval Of A Financial
Partnership For A "Live After Five" Town Center Event And Latin Jazz Fest For
Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush asked Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department, "Have
you talked with the Merchant's Association -the Winter Springs Town Center
Merchant's about this?"
Mr. Pula introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner Krebs mentioned the May 16`h, (2008) date and the Relay for Life -
Winter Springs Event and suggested that this "Could work in conjunction with them".
Commissioner Krebs then added, "We have to find a way to cover the charges on these,
not through Citizen's pockets. We have got to find sponsorships, and I do not know if
that means hiring somebody to help with this or what we need to do."
Mr. Kim McFadden, Event Sales Director, WLOQ, Gross Communications Corporation,
2301 Lucien Way, Suite 180, Maitland, Florida: addressed the City Commission and
explained, "Why we are asking for some help as a partnership for our June 71h, (2008)
Event, is we thought we would kind of take a similar approach to the Scottish Highland
Games where we would come in and do an Event basically for free at the Town Center,
and that would be the May 16t", (2008) Event. In exchange for us doing that Event for
free, bringing in the sound, the lights, the stage, the talent, promoting it quite heavily on
the radio station, getting people here -we're going to also be tying in Nemours, they're
going to be doing a kids obstacle race at that point - we thought that would be a great
Event for the City. So, we saw that as a potential trade-off to help us with our expense on
June 7~', (2008)"
Commissioner Brown asked Mr. Pula, "Who at the Chamber have you been talking to
about formulating a partnership to cover the costs so it doesn't come out of the City
Budget?" With discussion, Commissioner Brown added, "I think advertising it through
the Chamber would probably get us a considerable amount of business coverage, that
would drop the cost of this to the City if it ends up being any cost to the City."
Discussion.
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Commissioner Miller said to Mr. McFadden, "So you will be able to substantiate your
outlay -advertising, all those type things?" Commissioner Miller added, "So, the Town
Center I think kind of pays for itself. I do not really have a problem with that. I
subscribe to the City Manager's argument that it brings business to the Town Center."
With discussion on the June 7~', (2008) Event, Commissioner Miller said to Mr.
McFadden, "That is not even shown here?" Mr. McFadden stated, "Correct. We were
trying to establish the value of us doing an Event for free for the City, in exchange for the
services; and we thought the sixteen thousand dollars ($16,000.00) we would bring to the
table would offset those services."
Commissioner Miller noted, "I would feel much more comfortable if you make a
guestimate, if you have done this before - I would like to see this brought back, maybe at
the next Commission Meeting." Commissioner Miller added, "I would like to see it
brought back with some estimate of what you think the revenue would be for yourself, for
the Central Winds Park Event."
Mr. McFadden noted that, "Event `A' is a loss."
Manager McLemore asked about other Latin Events and the related turn-out history; and
asked, "Does there have to be two (20 Events? Would you be willing to work with the
Association and Town Center and simply putting on an Event in the Town Center." Mr.
McFadden stated, "We're most interested in Event `B'."
With discussion on other Latin Festivals, Commissioner Brown suggested, "I think the
economic advantage to the City is huge if we can put some real numbers around it, and
anticipate what exactly is going to be on the table and what is not. So -maybe it would
be worthwhile to have Chuck (Pula) do a little research on what the Orlando Event brings
as far as participants, what we might be able to estimate as far as income and from that,
we can extrapolate what the economic impact may be for the surrounding businesses in
the community and what we are going to have to pay, outlay and -maybe we can sharpen
those partnership numbers a little bit; since it is a revenue positive situation for WLOQ,
maybe we can look at some other ways of tracking that City commitment number."
Manager McLemore suggested, "Maybe we could explore would be a profit sharing
arrangement..." Commissioner Brown added, "...And a stronger business partnership
between the Chamber and the other local businesses."
Mr. McFadden noted, "We're not making huge amounts of money here."
Commissioner Krebs asked about the proposed May 16t", (2008) date and noted a
possible conflict, "Unless you got with Relay for Life..." Mr. McFadden stated,
"...Perhaps there is a fit there."
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Mayor Bush stated, "I kind of like Mr. McLemore's idea there of may be a shared risk
situation there with the Park and also maybe the Chamber would get in on that too;
maybe even the Merchant's Association -there could be a lot of partnerships you might
be able to put together for this."
Partnerships and Sponsorships were discussed next. Mayor Bush noted, "I think Mr.
McLemore basically said that he feels the direction of the Commission is to explore this
further; look at some of the other entities that might help offset the costs of the City's
money."
Commissioner Miller suggested there be "More complete data from your side also -
attendance -for both." Commissioner Miller added, "I think you know what we are
looking for, in terms of justification."
Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MANAGER MOVE FORWARD AND
EXPLORE THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP HERE -THE IDEAS
THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ON THE DAIS THIS EVENING AND BRING IT
BACK TO US -WHAT, NEXT MEETING?" MANAGER McLEMORE STATED,
"TOWN CENTER ASSOCIATION, THE CHAMBER?" COMMISSIONER
KREBS ADDED, "YES, AND ANY OTHER SPONSORSHIP THAT YOU MIGHT
THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED, WHETHER IT BE PROGRESS ENERGY
OR NEMOURS OR ONE OF THOSE." MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "THAT
OFFICE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET..." COMMISSIONER KREBS
ALSO SAID, "...THE OFFICE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "You will definitely talk to Bill Starmer."
Manager McLemore added, "I will go visit Bill (Starmer)."
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606. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Consider Approval Of A Lease Agreement With
Vistawilla Office Center, LLC For A Police Substation.
Attorney Garganese spoke on this Agenda Item. Discussion ensued with Chief of Police
Daniel J. Kerr.
"I MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Chief Kerr spoke of an incident this evening near the Fox Glen
subdivision.
Next, Chief Kerr stated, "I am honored that you wanted to Nominate me for the Police
Officer of the Year, however, as a Police Department, we have Nominated Allison Swain
Smith."
Commissioner Miller said, "I would be willing to go along with your Request but only on
the basis that you don't Appoint anybody next year and wait until we decide what we
want to do."
Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioners?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree."
Commissioner Krebs then commented, "Let's have a Motion on that."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
FURTHERMORE, MAYOR BUSH STATED, "THE MOTION IS THAT WE -
WITHDRAW THE CHIEF'S NAME AND INSERT ALLISON'S (SWAIN SMITH)
NAME."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that there were Amendment 1
signs still up on the West side of the City.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:23 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
r
,:
A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROY'ED:
MA R JGI-IN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 25, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.