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AUGUST 13, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, August 13, 2007 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, absent
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEMS '100', '101', AND '102' WERE DISCUSSED FIRST, AS DOCUMENTED.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Brief discussion.
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INFORMATIONAL
101. Office Of The City Manager
Seminole County Economic Development Department Request To Provide The
Commission With Information Regarding Florida's Brownfields Redevelopment
Program And How It Could Affect Winter Springs.
No discussion at this time.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Schedule For The Winter
Springs Hometown Harvest Special Event.
Discussion.
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ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON INDIVIDUALL Y, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:. .:.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
103. Public Works Department
Providing the City Commission With Information Regarding The City's
Independent Technical Review Of The Florida Turnpike's Draft Noise Study For
The Proposed Seminole Expressway (State Road 417) Widening Project.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller suggested that a Survey be done on a cold December day
with lower humidity.
With discussion, Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department stated,
"We can ask our Consultant that prepared this Report - for an opinion as to whether he
thinks that would be - beneficial."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT A MOTION THAT WE INCLUDE THAT IN
THE CONSULTANT'S DIRECTION THAT - HE DO THIS DELIBERATELY-
OR TRY TO GET THE INFORMATION INTRODUCED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore asked about the date and time when the Meeting was
being held. Mr. Fields noted, "We can find out." Commissioner Gilmore requested that
he be informed.
INFORMATIONAL
104. Utility Department
Informing The City Commission Of The Requirement For An Addendum To The
2006 Annual Drinking Water Report.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion for approval on the Informational" (Agenda
Item '100', '101', '102', and '104')?
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The Mayor
Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution
2007-30 Related To Supporting SeminoleW A Y.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 17,2007 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 18,2007 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 23, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 24, 2007 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 30, 2007 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Apply For A
Recreational Development Assistance Program Grant For Central Winds Park (Dog
Park) On Behalf Of The City Of Winter Springs.
Discussion.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS '207', '208', '209', '210',
'211', AND '212' WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY A VOTE THAT
RELATES TO THESE AGENDA ITEMS, AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY
THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
207. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Youth Sports Organization.
Please see Motion that follows Consent Agenda Item "212" which also includes this
Consent Agenda Item.
CONSENT
208. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Basketball League.
Please see Motion that follows Consent Agenda Item "212" which also includes this
Consent Agenda Item.
CONSENT
209. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Florida Soccer
Alliance Inc. (FCA).
Please see Motion that follows Consent Agenda Item "212" which also includes this
Consent Agenda Item.
CONSENT
210. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Futball Club, Inc., Affiliate Of Central Florida United Soccer Clubs.
Please see Motion that follows Consent Agenda Item "212" which also includes this
Consent Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
211. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Grizzlies, Inc. (Football).
Please see Motion that follows Consent Agenda Item "212" which also includes this
Consent Agenda Item.
CONSENT
212. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With Seminole Lacrosse
League An Affiliate Of US Lacrosse-Orlando, Inc.
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis stated that regarding "207 through 212 - it is one (1)
comment that will pertain to them all." Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "I will just
discuss it because it does pertain to everyone (1) of these Agreements. You are talking
about a two (2) year Agreement and with the addition of a five dollar ($5.00) Fee per City
resident and fifteen dollars ($15.00) per non-resident - my concern is we don't know
what is going to happen to the Referendum." Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "I am not
happy with a two (2) year Agreement - have you thought about a one (1) year with an
option to raise it at the end of that period, depending on what the status is with the City at
that time?"
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese suggested, "We could probably put some better
language in the Agreement to specifically address your concern - we want to come back
and look at the Fees after the first year. You can sign a two (2) year Agreement, but
review the Fees again - at the end of year one (1)."
"I MOVE THAT WE PUT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS
THAT FEE SCHEDULE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
213. Not Used.
CONSENT
214. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Adopt Resolution 2007-36 Expressing
Appreciation To The Members Of The Ad Hoc Winter Springs Citizen Property
Tax Reform Mitigation Study Committee.
No discussion.
CONSENT
215. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire Inliner American, Inc. To Perform Storm Sewer
Line Rehabilitation By Piggybacking Off Orange County Project Number Y 4-.1082-
J2.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
216. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-31 Expressing Appreciation To
Ethel Beecher For Her Service On The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board.
No discussion.
CONSENT
217. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-32 Expressing Appreciation To
Kathryn Fairchild For Her Service On The Board Of Adjustment.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
218. Not Used.
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CONSENT
219. Public Works Department - Capital Projects Division
Requesting Approval Of The Subsequent Contract Agreement With Progress
Energy For Installation Of Steetlights Phase 3 And 7 As Part Of The Tuscawilla
Lighting And Beautification District TLBD Phase 2 Beautification Project.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
220. Police Department
Requesting The Commission To Give Approval For The City Manager And Police
Chief To Renew The Annual School Resource Officers Inter-Agency Agreement
Between The City Of Winter Springs And Seminole County School Board.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
221. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-33 Expressing Appreciation To
Denise Ritchey For Her Service On The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
222. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-34 Expressing Appreciation To
Linda Tillis For Her Service On The Planning And Zoning/Local Planning Agency
Board.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
223. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-35 Expressing Appreciation To
Brantley Tillis For His Service On The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District Advisory Committee.
No discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [REMAINING] CONSENT" AGENDA ITEMS.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
300. Not Used.
Mayor Bush spoke of an Award given to the City of Winter Springs from a recent
Seminole County Regional Chamber of Commerce meeting.
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ITEM WAS ADDRESSED AGAIN, AS NOTED NEXT. .:..:.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMA nONAL
101. Office Of The City Manager
Seminole County Economic Development Department Request To Provide The
Commission With Information Regarding Florida's Brownfields Redevelopment
Program And How It Could Affect Winter Springs.
Mr. John Metsopoulos, Seminole County, US 17-92 RA Program Manager, 1055 AAA
Drive, Suite 145, Heathrow, Florida: commented on this Agenda Item and pointed out,
"We're not calling it a 'Brownfield'. We don't have to call it a 'Brownfield', there is a
negative connotation with 'Brownfields'."
Mayor Bush asked about the improving of Florida Avenue. Mr. Metsopoulos responded,
"I can look into that and get back to you." Mayor Bush asked that Commissioner Miller
be informed.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
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REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department, sitting in for City
Manager Ronald W. McLemore said, "No Report."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces mentioned the next City Commission Budget
Workshop was scheduled for next Thursday, August 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 p.m.
REPORTS
403. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on the approval of the School Resource Officer Contract.
Next, Mayor Bush mentioned a Seminole County luncheon on September 13th, [2007],
and if you want to attend, let Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) know.
Mayor Bush then spoke of the next CALNO (Council of Local Governments in Seminole
County) Meeting.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
No Report.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
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REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Fourffieputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked that the red light camera issue be fast tracked. Mayor
Bush then asked Mr. Lockcuffto remind Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr to get this on the
next Agenda.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
No Report.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Patrick Rubb, 231 Blue Creek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of
the Chestnut Estates Homeowner's Association, Mr. Rubb spoke of noise and the 417
widening project; affected property values; and the need for noise abatement structures.
Ms. Elizabeth Larsen, 1007 East Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida:
suggested that the proposed Cell Tower be placed east of the tennis courts.
Mr. Barry Rhind, 987 Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on his wife's
assault and that she had no coverage on her cell phone during her assault; and commented
that this was an issue of safety.
Dr. Lisa Ann Utsey, 1316 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: agreed
with the need for a Cell Tower.
Mr. Bob Martyanik, 933 Glen Abbey Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: said he was in
favor of the proposed Cell Tower.
Mr. Leo McCloe 1052 East Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned he
was not against a Cell Tower but was against the concept; and was concerned with the
fiduciary interests of the Tuscawilla Country Club.
Ms. Joyce Johnson, 1011 West Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned
she cannot get cell phone coverage inside her residence and has to go outside.
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Mr. Phil Karr, 1323 Augusta National Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of
coverage; use of his cell phone; testing of cell phones; and suggested there were other
locations for the proposed Cell Tower.
Dr. John Hogan, 105 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: as the Vice President
of the Arrowhead Homeowner's Association, Dr. Hogan spoke of the Ordinance; and tier
locations.
Tape I/Side B
Dr. Hogan then commented on Tier Two sites and asked the City Commission to reject
this Application.
Mr. Larry Humes, 1633 Tiverton Street, Winter Springs, Florida: complimented the City
Commission on the proposed incubator project and said that the infrastructure would be
needed.
Mr. Jeff Zimmerman, 215 Stratford Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: was opposed to the
proposed Cell Tower based on the suggested location and the possible loss of aesthetic
beauty.
Mr. Richard Van Smith, 1313 Deer Run, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested technology
be embraced and that cell phone access be more available.
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that the
proposed Cell Tower should not go on the Country Club property.
Mr. Jim Braun, 104 Arrrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on a
questionnaire that was sent out.
Mr. Dan Gilmartin, 891 Sterling Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: noted that he wanted to
enclose his screen porch and did not think the Variance Fee was necessary.
Mr. Nick Ali, 152 Cherry Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
beauty of the community and asked that a different location be found.
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ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests the City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Modifications To The
Aesthetic Review Of Sonesta Pointe (Previously Known As Sonoma Pointe), A 289-
Unit Engle Homes Duplexffownhome/Single-Family Detached Development To Be
Located In The Town Center On The 40 Acres Immediately South Of St. John's
Landing On The East Side Of Tuskawilla Road.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, AS LA, Director, Community Development Department addressed
the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MODIFICATION OF THE AESTHETIC
REVIEW TO INCLUDE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission The Districting Commission's Recommendation
For The Revised City Commission District Boundaries, Reflecting The January 31,
2007 Population, And Requests The City Commission Approve First Reading Of
Ordinance Number 2007-23, To Pass It To Second Reading.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced
this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush stated, "We need a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mr. Baker reviewed the revised and proposed Districts. Brief discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE TO SECOND READING" OF ORDINANCE
2007-23. MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. and former
Commissioner John Ferring who were in attendance.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review Vertex Development, LLC's Request For A
Conditional Use To Allow A Telecommunications Tower, On A 70' x 70' Lease Site,
At The Tuscawilla Country Club (1500 Winter Springs Boulevard), In The
Tuscawilla Planned Unit Development (PUD).
Mr. Stevenson spoke on this Agenda Item and then said, "We have '500.2' which is the
Site Plan for that site - which is not a Public Hearing by the way, and then' 500.3' which
is the Aesthetic Review of that particular facility which is a Public Hearing." Mr.
Stevenson added, "This is a Public Hearing."
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese explained, "Generally, under the Ordinance, the Applicant for a Tier
Three site has to present evidence that a Tier Two site is not available, technically
feasible. 1 am confident that you will hear information and evidence regarding that issue
and that is a threshold determination before you consider approving a 'Conditional Use'
for Tier Three that you have to have that evidence in the record, demonstrating that a Tier
Two site and a Tier One site for that matter, but that's not relevant tonight."
Tape 2/Side A
Commissioner Rick Brown spoke for the Record on the Settlement Agreement.
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese showed a map of Tuscawilla Country Club and explained the
existing Settlement Agreement.
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush noted, "The Tower would actually reduce the number of homes, because
you can't build a home - within, what is it, 200' of the Tower?" Attorney Garganese
stated, "There is a buffer requirement."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese said, "1 just would like to enter into the Record that July 27, 2007
letter to Michael Gardner from City Manager McLemore and the entire Settlement
Agreement that Randy (Stevenson) - referenced - the book and page."
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Mr. Bill Geisler, 4025 West Danby Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke as a member
of the Country Club and commented that he was in favor of a Cell Tower and thought
that the back of driving range would be a great location for a Cell Tower.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about
the proposed Cell Tower; a previous straw ballot; and presented photos of power poles
visible from his residence.
Ms. Pat Rhind, 987 Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about an attack she
went through; lack of coverage and that this is an issue of safety, not aesthetics.
Mr. Ed Pelczar, 1014 West Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in
opposition of the proposed Cell Tower; and his concerns with noise and the maintenance
of a Cell Tower.
Ms. Brenda Parker, 1112 Winged Foot Circle West, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush commented, "Is opposed, but does not wish to address the Commission."
Mr. Mark Parker, 1112 Winged Foot Circle West, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush
stated, "Also is opposed and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Brenda Parker, 1112 Winged Foot Circle West, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush remarked, "She is opposed - does not want to speak."
Ms. Eugenie Rastonis, 1029 East Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush noted, "She is opposed - you do not wish to speak."
Ms. Nancy Casper, 1052 East Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush stated, "Did fill out that she was opposed as well."
Mr. John M Hogan, 105 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: said he could see
the balloon test from his residence; and commented for the Record on evidence.
Mr. Phil Karr, 1323 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
about the Cell Tower behind City Hall and asked if people would like this in their back
yard.
Ms. Dorothy Piccinin, 1024 East Pebble Beach Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor
Bush remarked, "Is opposed and does not wish to speak."
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Mr. Joe Santilli, J 493 Connors Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the
Wedgewood Tennis Villas, Mr. Santilli presented forty-one (41) residents who were in
favor of the proposed Cell Tower and that two (2) were opposed; amongst a few others
who were undecided; and also commented on a concern for public safety and homeland
security.
Mayor Bush noted, "Mr. Santilli did present several other citizen's forms."
Mr. David Mitchell, 146R Connors Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush
remarked, "Is in favor, but does not wish to address the Commission."
Mr. Mike Checchio, 1236 Royal Oak Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in favor of
the proposed Cell Tower.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: said he was
in favor of the proposed Cell Tower and spoke of safety concerns.
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush remarked,
"Is in favor and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Nancy C. Vail, 1374 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: said she
thought most people were against this proposed Cell Tower site and thought the proposed
location was not the right one and suggested the proposed Fire Station site and Sam
Smith Park were better site choices.
Mr. Richard Mastroberte, J 7 J 6 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on what the Tuscawilla community was originally planned to be; and asked that due
diligence be done.
Ms. Tina Regan, 224 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her
community; of other Cell Towers; and asked that the appropriate studies be done.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:30 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7:48 p.m.
Ms. Mary D. Solik, Esquire, Foley & Lardner LLP, J J J North Orange Avenue, Suite
J 800, Orlando, Florida: representing Vertex Development LLC, spoke on this Agenda
Item.
Tape 2/Side B
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Discussion continued.
Ms. Solik remarked, "I am going to put a couple things into the Record on the public
safety issue. First of all, I am going to put into the Record the Seminole Chronicle article
that the Rhind's referenced earlier tonight that describes Ms. Rhind's incident and her
lack of cell phone coverage and the public safety issues associated with that. I'm also
going to put up a statistic here." Ms. Solik continued, "These are statistics from the
Seminole County Public Safety Office. This shows the number of 9-1-1 calls made to the
Winter Springs Police Department and you can see that through 2006 through to 2007. . . "
Ms. Solik continued, "... What I want to point out to you is that through June of this year,
thirty percent (30%) of all 9-1-1 calls that are made to the Winter Springs Police
Department come in, actually right now it's running eighteen percent (18%), come in on
9-1-1 calls, on a mobile phone - these are the Winter Springs and Seminole County
numbers - and you can see they're progressing every year, going up."
Further discussion.
Mr. Alan Ruiz, Vertex Development, LLe, 405 South Dale Mabry Highway, #244,
Tampa, Florida: commented on the proposed Cell Tower location.
Discussion followed on the Settlement Agreement.
Mayor Bush said, "You had a company do a Title search and they didn't find something
that had gone through the Courts?" Ms. Solik remarked, "I'm going to put the Settlement
Agreement in the Record tonight and its Amendment and the stamping from all of that
when you - get it off the recording is that the legal descriptions are all undecipherable.
So, the Title company can't pick it up if the legal descriptions are undecipherable."
Discussion.
Ms. Solik then said, "I'm going to put my letter to Mr. McLemore of January 13th in the
Record. I'm going to put the letter from the City Staff of March 16th, 2007 in the Record,
outlining our progress. Again, no mention of the Settlement Agreement."
With further comments, Mr. Ruiz remarked, "What we have here is the Tower
compound; and what the Tower compound is, is the fenced-in area on the ground that
holds all of the carriers' ground equipment as well as the Tower - as well as the lines that
run from the ground equipment up inside the Tower, up to the antennas, as well as an
emergency generator area.
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This area right here enclosed by the fencing is a fifty by fifty (50 x 50) area,
approximately 2,500 square feet. What we are proposing is a ten foot (10') landscape
buffer around it which creates a seventy by seventy (70 x 70) lease area, which is 4900
square feet. So, we're proposing - 2,400 square feet to cover up 2,500 square feet of
ground equipment.
Each one (1) of these individual squares inside is a sub-lease to the tenants that go on the
Tower." Mr. Ruiz continued, "Each one (1) of these little squares in here is a different
carriers' ground equipment. There are lines of co-ax that run from the equipment into the
bottom of the Tower and then up through the Tower to the carriers' antennas right here-
what we have are seven (7) different bays for seven (7) different carriers. This profile
shot here shows you that T-Mobile will put their antennas at the very top of the Tower;
Verizon Wireless will put their antennas in the second bay; Sprint in the third; Nextel in
the fourth; metroPCS [Inc.] in the fifth; Clearwire [US LLC] in the sixth; and Cingular
[Wireless] in the seventh."
Discussion.
Mr. Ruiz noted, "To further illustrate how the antennas are mounted on the inside of the
pole, that little bit right there, where T-Mobile would have its antennas is this right here.
Alright? And that is - those are six (6) antennas mounted on the inside of that canister;
which slides over the top of that, is a fiberglass RF (Radio frequency) transparent shroud
that becomes part of the structure and makes it all one white continuous pole.
This is another picture of it, again with out the concealment shrouds over it. These are
called wagon wheels. This is the co-ax that runs up to each one of the bays from the
different carriers' equipment on the ground. What this is, is - this is a typical lattice type
Tower. You have some around town. Just to point out the different types of Towers that
we have. This is obviously not what we're proposing tonight. Again, another picture of
a lattice type Tower."
Ms. Solik stated, "These are all photos that were put in the Record at the Board of
Adjustment Hearing, and Ijust wanted you to see them as well."
Mr. Ruiz then remarked, "Again, another photo for the Record. This Tower is about half
a mile from my house."
Commissioner Gilmore referenced a photograph the "Modeling company had made that
showed the Tower in the trees" and said to Mr. Ruiz, "Is this with the shroud or without
the shroud?" Mr. Ruiz explained, "This is with the shroud and diameter at the top of the
tower is thirty-six inches (36")/three feet (3'), and that is a standard size for unipoles that
is used, and this size is in configuration, we use over and over again. The carriers use
them, other Tower companies use them, so it is a very slim profile."
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Mr. Ruiz added, "It is thirty-six inches (36")/three feet (3') to the top of the Tower.
Actually, at the bottom, it is approximately four and a half (4 Y2), five feet (5'), and it
might be as big as six feet (6'), to be perfectly honest with you. I'd have to pull the
drawings up to give you an exact answer.
It goes up to eighty feet (80') in a tapering fashion, and then at eighty feet (80'), it's three
feet (3'), and it's three feet (3') all the way up for another seventy feet (70'), so its
continuous from eighty (80) to 150'." Mr. Ruiz commented, "It tapers - to the eighty foot
(80') mark from a four (4) to five (5), perhaps - maybe five and a half foot (5 Y2')
diameter - up to the eighty foot (80') mark and it's three feet (3') at the mark and then it's
three feet (3 ') from then on. Wherever - where the bays begin, where the carriers start
putting their stuff at, it's at three feet (3 ') from that point on."
Discussion continued.
Attorney Garganese asked, "Who prepared the Title Report?" Ms. Solik replied, "Revere
Title and Trust, [Inc.]." Attorney Garganese asked, "Did you just submit that for the
Record?" Ms. Solik replied, "Yes." Ms. Solik then commented for the Record on the
encumbrances shown.
Further discussion.
Continuing, Ms. Solik commented, "The first thing that I would like to put in the Record
is the 'VERIFIED COMPLAINT' that was filed by Florida Country Clubs, [Inc.]." Ms.
Solik added, "This is the first Settlement Agreement, paragraph 2. and this is consistent
with what Mr. Garganese has told you. Attached is Exhibit 'E' our legal descriptions of
eight (8) parcels within the FCC [Florida Country Clubs, Inc.] property referred to as
parcels 1-8 respectively, or singularly as a parcel."
Discussion.
Ms. Solik showed a map/"Concept Plan" of Parcel 8; then referred to a document and
said, "This Amendment 1. modifies the paragraph I just read you, FCC [Florida Country
Clubs, Inc.] shall be permitted to develop a total of thirteen (13) lots." Ms. Solik further
commented on Exhibits, and spoke of a "Legible, at least outline of parcel 8"; and other
documents.
Tape 3/Side A
With continued discussion on the Settlement Agreement, Ms. Solik spoke of a letter
written by Manager McLemore.
Attorney Garganese commented for the Record that Manager McLemore is not present at
this Meeting as he is on vacation.
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Further discussion.
Mr. Dan Babilla, Senior Radio frequency Engineer, T-Mobile, 200 Telcom Drive, Winter
Springs, Florida: commented on cell phone coverage in the Tuscawilla area.
Mr. Babilla showed some maps outlining cellular coverage.
Discussion.
Continuing, Mr. Babilla then submitted dropped calls data for the Record; and presented
another document related to triangulation.
Ms. Solik spoke for the Record on Tier Two sites.
With further discussion, Mr. Babilla showed some maps.
Attorney Garganese said to Mr. Babilla, "Just comparing the maps, why all of a sudden
are you showing white blotches on this map..." Mr. Babilla replied, "... Where the green
ones on the other ones, that's where the white is. But it didn't change the legend."
Regarding generators, Mr. Ruiz replied, "Typically speaking, a carrier will put their own
generator on site, but that isn't always the case for every carrier. It's on a carrier by
carrier basis. I do know that SprintlNextel uses one (1) combined generator for their two
(2) levels. Verizon [Wireless] and T -Mobile does use them. I cannot tell you about
metroPCS and Cingular [Wireless] in this market and I - believe that Clearwire [US
LLC] does not use them at all." Mr. Ruiz continued, "AT&T does."
Mr. Ruiz commented, "There will not necessarily be seven (7) generators. As a matter of
fact, just going through the calculations right now, I have four (4)."
Furthermore, Mr. Ruiz said, "And the generators are used in a time of an emergency
when there's no power. They do not run on a consistent basis at all. In fact, they are
relatively small generators." Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked how they are tested. Mr.
Ruiz responded by saying, "Once a month they do a one (I) hour test to make sure that
they're functional when they're needed."
On the issue of "Maintenance for the ground area", Mr. Ruiz explained, "Sprint Nextel
[Corporation] is one (1) company. They would make one (1) trip a month. The other
five (5) bays that are being taken up by the other five (5) carriers would produce one (1)
trip per month, so T-Mobile would come out once a month to check their equipment.
Clearwire [US LLC] would do the same and all the other tenants. So right there produces
six (6) trips per month.
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Vertex [Development, LLC] also comes out once a month to inspect the property and
make sure that it's in good shape. Approximately seven trips (7) trips per month so
you're looking at a trip about every four (4) or four and half (4 ~) days."
Commissioner Gilmore then inquired, "How many kW (kilowatt) are these generators?"
Mr. Babilla stated, "Twenty-five (25) - for the four (4) different generators that I
described." Commissioner Gilmore then said, "According to the drawing, they are all
propane operated?" Mr. Babilla noted, "Some are propane - some are diesel."
Tape 3/Side B
Ms. Solik remarked, "We have put a letter in the Record, it was with our Application
package that expresses Verizon's [Wireless] interest in being on this Tower."
Mr. Craig 0 'Neill, Radio frequency Engineer, metroPCS Inc., 8256 Exchange Drive,
Suite 210, Orlando, Florida: said, "I think, Mr. Babilla - I concur with most of what he
said."
In continuing with his comments, Mr. O'Neill showed some plot plans.
Further discussion.
Ms. Solik stated, "Carolyn Wilkinson - Carolyn is with Clearwire [US LLC]. At the
Board of Adjustment Hearing, Calvin Johnson, the RF (Radio frequency) Engineer spoke
for Clearwire [US LLC] - he is in Seattle, he was unavailable to attend tonight." Ms.
Solik added, "I am going to put the Minutes from the Board of Adjustment Hearing in the
Record so you will have Calvin's [Johnson] testimony in - the Record."
Ms. Carolyn Wilkinson, Director of Development, Clearwire US LLC, 500 North Willow
Avenue, Suite 101, Tampa, Florida: presented a plot showing coverage and noted that
"Clearwire [US LLC] is the WiMax carrier."
Ms. Wilkinson commented, "It's good for us to be there. We don't need to at the top for
the signal for WiMax at 800 megahertz. We're going to be able to provide the signal that
we want to the maximum number of customers that we can for this particular location."
Discussion.
Mr. Frank Tagliani, Engineering Manager, AT&T, 1101 Greenwood Boulevard, Lake
Mary, Florida: commented that AT&T was previously Cingular Wireless and showed
slides of varying coverage.
Further discussion.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR A ONE (1) TIME ONLY EXTENSION OF
THE MEETING FOR A MAXIMUM OF THIRTY (30) MINUTES TO GET US
THROUGH ITEM '500.1'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE MOTION IS TO EXTEND TO 10:30 [P.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Attorney Garganese commented for the Record that, "The Commission has a rule that the
Meeting ends at - 10:00 p.m. unless a super majority votes to extend and we didn't get a
super majority."
Ms. Solik put in the Record a Report done by Lee Pallardy, Inc., "A Telecommunication
Tower [Value] Impact Study" done in Sarasota County."
With further discussion, Ms. Solik mentioned that, "In the Application packages which
you have been provided, Vertex [Development, LLC] has provided the Lease from T-
Mobile; the Lease from metroPCS; the Lease from Clearwire [US LLC]; the Letter Of
Intent from Sprint [Nextel]; the Letter of interest from Verizon [Wireless]; and you had
Cingular [Wireless] come here tonight in giving their interest in the Tower."
Mr. James Huff, Sprin/Nextel, 2917 West State Road 434, Longwood, Florida:
commented that SprintlNextel is interested in the proposed Cell Tower location.
Regarding a follow-up Meeting, Mayor Bush asked, "Can we do it on the [August] 20th
[2007]?" Commissioner Brown replied, "Yes." Ms. Solik remarked, "I can be here on
the [August] 20th [2007]." Deputy Mayor McGinnis commented, "That's good."
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs said, "Next Monday, I can be here."
Mayor Bush asked, "5:15 [p.m.], does that work for you?" Ms. Solik replied, "I'll be
here." Mayor Bush commented, "It will be the only thing we are going to do, so we will
continue with - your presentation as well as take up the other two (2) items that refer to
your Application."
Attorney Garganese remarked, "You only have two (2) other items on Regular, are you
sure you don't want to include that too?" Mayor Bush replied, "Yes, we will try to finish,
but we want to make sure we do this first."
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Mayor Bush asked, "Do we have an advertisement issue, Anthony (Garganese), on these
Public Hearings?" Attorney Garganese replied, "We just postpone it or continue it to
August 20th [2007] at 5:15 [p.m.], so that's a date and time certain. You'll be fine with
advertisement. "
Regarding access to the information presented, Ms. Solik commented, "This information
has all been put in the Record and your City Clerk is Record Keeper."
Attorney Garganese stated, "Weare going to keep the Record, Commissioner. What has
been presented to date, this pile of papers and we'll keep it in the City Clerk's Office if
you want to review it between now and the next Meeting. It will be brought back to the
Chambers at the next Meeting as the official Record." Mayor Bush suggested, "I would
recommend Commissioners that, number one (1), Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk)
not make copies for everybody. That you go in and see her and tell her what you want
and give her time to do it."
Lastly, Mayor Bush said, "We will continue this meeting then Monday, [August], the 20th
[2007], starting at 5: 15 [p.m.]."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE NOT
DISCUSSED AT THIS MEETING. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review The Vertex Development, LLC
Telecommunications Tower Site Plan, On A 70' x 70' Lease Site, At The Tuscawilla
Country Club (1500 Winter Springs Boulevard), In The Tuscawilla Planned Unit
Development (PUD).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.3 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Review The Vertex Development, LLC
Telecommunications Tower Aesthetic Review, For A 150' (One Hundred And Fifty
Feet) Tall Monopole In A 50' x 50' Fenced Compound With 10' Landscape Buffer
On A 70' x 70' Lease Site, At The Tuscawilla Country Club (1500 Winter Springs
Boulevard), In the Tuscawilla Planned Unit Development (PUD).
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Not Used.
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Along With The Seminole County School Board Wishes To Brief The Commission
On The Draft 2007 Interlocal Agreement For Public School Facility Planning And
School Concurrency And Ordinance Number 2007-22, A Large Scale
Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment, Establishing A Public School Facilities
Element And Amending The Capital Improvements And The Intergovernmental
Coordination Elements Consistent With Chapter 163, Florida Statutes.
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Review The Situation Regarding Zero Lot
Line Developments With PUD (Planned Unit Developments) Zoning And Provide
Direction.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:59 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
AN A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITV CLERK
APPROVED:
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the August 27, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting,