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REGULAR MEETING
MAY 8, 2006
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, May 8, 2006 of the City Commission was called to
order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, absent
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Regarding Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Weare going to take Regular Agenda
Item '304' immediately after the 'Awards and Presentations'." And also, there is an
additional recognition tonight that we will also do."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Damon Chase, 1726 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke briefly on
Regular Agenda Item "305" and a requested Permit.
Mr. David Mize, 1607 Little Sparrow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: read some
comments for the Record related to the Black Hammock, Home Rule, and politics.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned he
was still waiting for an answer from eight (8) weeks ago related to Capital Improvements.
Mayor Bush said, "It is something the Manager will have to respond to."
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Mr. Ligthart then referenced a document showing different Seminole County monthly
Solid Waste Service Fees and asked for a response. Mayor Bush then suggested, "Put in
writing your request and send it to the Manager."
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: asked the
City Commission to postpone signing the Ordinance related to the Black Hammock and
asked that Seminole County and the City of Oviedo also agree to not develop the Black
Hammock.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the Fire
Chief for fixing a fire plug; spoke of the ten (10) best Dog Parks; and asked for the City's
help with a link on our Website related to an advertisement; and said they would be
putting together a video and would like our support in getting it to SGTV (Seminole
County Government TV).
Mayor Bush said to City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, "Can - that link be put on our
Website for this?" Manager McLemore remarked, "You should do this as a future
Agenda Item." Manager McLemore then said to Mr. Rucci, "We are going to Agenda this
next time to your next Meeting, to see your presentation." Mr. Rucci stated, "If I have it
done by then, I will bring it down. But I will give you a call well in advance." Mayor
Bush then said to Mr. Rucci, "Let Mr. McLemore know when you are ready." Mr. Rucci
stated, "I will do that."
Mr. Mervin Warner, 673 Keuka Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about expenses
spent for the Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District and that the same should be
done for the Town Center feasibility study.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Bush presented a Certificate of Recognition to Mr. Anthony P. Columbo for
graduating from University of Florida with outstanding grades.
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. Office Of The Mayor
Presenting A Proclamation In Honor Of National Police Week and Emergency
Medical Services Week.
Mayor Bush then presented a Proclamation honoring our Law Enforcement and
Emergency Medical Services personnel.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
HEARD NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
304. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Hear A Progress Presentation From FDOT
(Florida Department of Transportation) Regarding The State Road 434 U-Turn
Study.
Mr. Rick Morrow, District Traffic Operations Engineer, District Five, Florida
Department of Transportation, 719 South Woodland Boulevard, Deland, Florida:
addressed the City Commission on a roadway corridor study related to "State Road 434
from Talmo Street to east of Hayes Road, the area where the roadway has been recently
re-paved and the - agreement with Seminole County including the installation of the
raised median and the landscaped islands."
Discussion.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2006-04 Which Shall Amend The Text Of Section 6-84. Of The City's
Code Of Ordinances With Respect To Accessory Buildings. Specifically, The Text
Amendment Provides For The Review Of All Accessory Buildings, Whether Or Not
The Accessory Building Is Attached To The Principal Structure, To Determine
Compatibility With The Principal Structure And The Surrounding Land Uses And
Structures.
"MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read Ordinance 2006-04 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Damon Chase, 1726 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
proposed wording and Deed Restrictions.
Mr. Tom Waters, 1033 Antelope Trail, Winter Springs Florida: spoke of Deed
Restrictions expiring; and noted his appreciation for what the City is trying to do.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Tape I/Side B
Commissioner Robert S. Miller stated, "By the time we are done with this, it may be an
item that we really ought to do a Workshop on. One of the things that concerns me is
aesthetically - there are certain areas of the City where I don't think anyone is going to
object to putting in - one of these - tool shed that you can buy." Commissioner Miller
continued, "And yet, there are other areas of the City where I can see the neighbors
coming in saying, we don/t want this here; and you are going to be stuck with this
situation - well we allowed it in location 'x', so we have to allow it in location 'y', and I
don't think that is something that we are really are in a position to address, with the way
this is worded right now."
Mayor Bush said, "I think Commissioner Miller does bring up a good point, especially
about the utility buildings - there is no exception in here for them."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore suggested, "If a person added a garage on now, that
was detached from the house, according to this, 240 square feet would be the maximum
and that would not be adequate for a single car or a two (2) car garage, so I think there
must be something done to permit the addition of garages." Mr. Stevenson noted, "I have
already made a note of that, you are exactly right."
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake remarked, "I absolutely agree with the comments made
by Commissioner Miller." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "We certainly need to take action
to protect the residential character of our neighborhoods."
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Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "It says no more than two (2) accessory
buildings shall be allowed on any single lot. We probably need to talk about how many
detached accessory buildings. Because I could certainly foresee a situation where
somebody may make multiple improvements on to their primary residence which - could
certainly conceivably have more than two (2) improvements and as this would read,
would not be able to do that more than twice. That is a problem. Second story additions
also, appear to be outlawed by this, if a building does not currently have a second story."
Deputy Mayor Blake then added, "Accessory buildings which are attached to the
principal structure shall be subject to the same height limitations as the principal
structure." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "We should discuss that."
Mr. Stevenson explained, "We do need to tighten the language - the intent obviously was
the height limitation imposed by the Zoning Code." Deputy Mayor Blake then said
"Okay."
Next, Deputy Mayor Blake remarked about the "Setbacks - rear yard setback at six feet
(6'), I think there are probably some areas where that would create a conflict, not just for
users, which is covered in a subsequent section, but specifically with CCR's (Covenants,
Conditions and Restrictions) that may be enforced in a specific community. What is the
overriding factor? I can see somebody coming in with an application and it is six feet (6')
away from the rear yard property line, and that passes Code, but their CCR's (Covenants,
Conditions and Restrictions) provide for ten feet (10') or fifteen feet (15') from the rear.
We want to make sure that we are not creating the kind of problems that we are trying to
eliminate. So we might need to tweak the language there somewhat."
In discussing side yard setbacks, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I am not so sure that we
want to have an overall blanket statement that says that whatever your existing principal
structure is, that projection onto the street is your total buildable area, that that actually I
think would probably be a taking for many properties which have the right to build out -
to the current setbacks that exist. I myself would not like to see that happen."
Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Primarily, I don't know ifit is a Workshop or ifit is taking
another stab at it at the staff level and bringing it back, and then deciding if we need to
have a Workshop on it."
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs remarked, "I agree with all the Commissioners and I
would have to say that I would prefer a Workshop on this."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2006-
04 BACK TO STAFF FOR REVISIONS AS WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING
AND BRING IT BACK AT OUR NEXT - REGULARLY SCHEDULED
MEETING WHICH IS - MAY 22ND." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS."
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "THIS WOULD BRING IT BACK AS A FIRST
READING." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "YES."
COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "I AM HOPING YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
GET MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RAISED AND OTHERS
HAVE RAISED HERE THIS EVENING SO WE HAVE A PRETTY
FOOLPROOF DOCUMENT."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:42 p.m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 7:48 p.m.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL LATER IN THE
MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
HEARD NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE CONSENT AND INFORMATIONAL
AGENDAS, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
301. Office Of The City Manager, Office Of The City Attorney And Office Of The
City Clerk
Request That The City Commission Consider Approving Resolution 2006-25 Which
Will Establish A Public Notice Policy For City Commission Meetings And Other
City Sponsored Official Functions And Community Forums In Accordance With
Law.
Commissioner Miller suggested, "I would like to add some wording on page 2 of 4, at the
top of the page, items (A), (B), (C), (D), (E), and (F) - I would like to insert a new (F),
and then add the last item down to (G) - and (F) would state, 'local, state or national
conferences and/or meetings which one (1) or more Commissioners might attend."
Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, "Do you post that?" City Clerk
Lorenzo-Luaces responded, "If two (2) or more of you are going to be there,"
Commissioner Miller added, "It should be added in here anyway - it doesn't actually
specify a Conference."
With further discussion, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces was asked if more information could
be included, to which City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces remarked, "If there is an Agenda for
that event, we will often put, 'See attached Agenda'."
Mayor Bush added, "I think adding in here some place about the fact that if an Agenda
exists - it should be published as well as the location of the Meeting. And then,
Commissioner Miller's recommendation about Local, State or National Conferences."
Commissioner Miller added, "We can put that under the last item there and have it read,
'Any other Meetings required by law, such as Local, State or National Conferences' ,"
Mayor Bush noted, "They are not really required by Law." Commissioner Miller then
said, "That is why I wanted to make it a separate item." Mayor Bush added, "I think it
should be separate."
Furthermore, Mayor Bush explained, "Commissioner Miller's recommendation would
become (F) and (G) then would be 'Any other meeting required by law'; and some place
Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces], you would add in there somewhere about posting the Agenda
if available."
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Commissioner Krebs said to Mayor Bush, "The posting of the Birthday Party, I in fact
was one of the Commissioners who requested that it be posted - and I believe you
actually mentioned to go ahead and post it."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore commented that "Looking at Section 2., item (E) - I see the
wording, and I don't believe that is the intent, it says, 'Meetings between the Mayor and
one or more members of the City Commission', what that really says is that the Mayor is
at those Meetings." Commissioner Gilmore added, "It is not just the Mayor attending
with Commissioners, but I think it is two (2) Commissioners together." Commissioner
Gilmore then said, "This word 'and' in there, I think that needs to be changed for the
proper meaning, that it is the Mayor and Commissioners."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush stated, "Do we have a Motion to accept with the changes" - approval of
Resolution 2006-25.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Advertising Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And WKMG- TV
(Channel 6) For July 4, 2006, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
No discussion.
CONSENT
401. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Approve A Minor Amendment To The Harbor
Winds Final Subdivision Plat (Adding A 10' Wide Utility Easement Across The
Front Of Each Lot) And Authorize Its Recordation.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
402. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
403. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Purchase (1) Ford F-150 Pickup Truck By
Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid Number 04-12-0823.
No discussion.
CONSENT
404. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting the City Commission Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The
Amount Of $25,000.00 To Fund Costs Associated With A Feasibility Study For The
Creation Of An Assessment District In The Winter Springs Town Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The April 24, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM '404'." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Fire Department
Requests That The City Commission Review The Results Of The City Of Winter
Springs Employee Blood Drive.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
502. Police Department - Code Enforcement Bureau
Providing Information To The City Commission Concerning On-Street Parking
Issues Within Heritage Park.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Office Of The City Manager
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Fund Balance Of The Revolving
Rehabilitation Fund After The Sale Of The Final Wyman Fields Unit Located At
123 Kristi Ann Court.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOVE TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL [AGENDA)." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEM WAS HEARD NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2006-04 Which Shall Amend The Text Of Section 6-84. Of The City's
Code Of Ordinances With Respect To Accessory Buildings. Specifically, The Text
Amendment Provides For The Review Of All Accessory Buildings, Whether Or Not
The Accessory Building Is Attached To The Principal Structure, To Determine
Compatibility With The Principal Structure And The Surrounding Land Uses And
Structures.
Mayor Bush asked for a Motion to take Public Hearings Agenda Item "200" off of the
Table.
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese stated, "That is my recommendation that the Commission formally
adopt some interim stop-gap measure while you comprehensively look at this so you
don't bring the permit process to a grinding halt."
Commissioner Miller stated, "I have no objection to that, I would like to put a Date
Certain on it though. Can that be brought forward in two (2) weeks?" Attorney
Garganese remarked, "Yes."
Attorney Garganese further explained that "We don't have any new guidelines until the
Commission adopts the emergency Ordinance and during this two week time period, all
Applicants are on Notice like they have been for the last several weeks that the
Commission is in the process of adopting new regulations that will - could apply to their
permit application as submitted."
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Tape 2/Side A
"WE PUT THIS ORDINANCE ON HOLD, AND TWO (2) WEEKS FROM THAT
WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED
MEETING - AND THE APPLICATION BE PLACED ON HOLD UNTIL
MONDAY, TWO (2) WEEKS FROM TONIGHT - AND ADVERTISE THE
NOTICE IF IT IS REQUIRED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OF
WINTER SPRINGS FINDS THERE TO BE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION IN
OUR BUILDING CODES AND THEREFORE ACT TO ADOPT ON AN
EMERGENCY BASIS AT THIS SINGLE MEETING A NEW ORDINANCE
THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE LANGUAGE THAT THE ATTORNEY
HAS PRINTED BEFORE HIM; WITH FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS OF STAFF
TO BRING BACK A REVISION - OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2006-04 FOR
FINAL LANGUAGE THAT WOULD REPLACE THIS EMERGENCY
ORDINANCE INCOPORATED INTO THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "305"
WAS DIVIDED INTO REGULAR "305 A." AND "305 B.", WHICH ARE BEING
DOCUMENTED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. .:..:.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
305 B. Community Development Department
REVISED
Requests The City Commission Consider Releasing Two Building Permits For
Additions To Residential Structures Within The Tuscawilla PUD (Planned Unit
Development) Upon Approval Of These Permits By The Building Department.
Release Of These permits Is Being Requested Before Finalization Of The Text
Amendment Facilitating Review Of These Additions For Neighborhood
Compatibility Issues.
Mr. Damon Chase, 1726 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this Application.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM '305 B'."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
305 A. Community Development Department
REVISED
Requests The City Commission Consider Releasing Two Building Permits For
Additions To Residential Structures Within The Tuscawilla PUD (Planned Unit
Development) Upon Approval Of These Permits By The Building Department.
Release Of These permits Is Being Requested Before Finalization Of The Text
Amendment Facilitating Review Of These Additions For Neighborhood
Compatibility Issues.
Brief discussion.
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"MOVE FOR APPROVAL '305 A'." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Adopt On Second Reading Ordinance 2006-03
Providing Standards And Criteria For Limiting Residential Densities Of Future
Development Projects Within The City Of Winter Springs.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2006-03 by "Title" and stated, "This is Second
Reading." Attorney Garganese added, "We are requesting that this Item be brought back
to you for Third and Final Reading because the - legal advertisement that was published
in the newspaper - did not meet the ten (10) day requirement."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2006-03 TO
THIRD AND FINAL ADOPTION HEARING ON MAY 22ND." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Adopt On Second Reading Ordinance 2006-02
Which Shall Prohibit The Annexation, Either Voluntarily Or Involuntarily, Of Any
Real Property That Is Located East Of An Imaginary Straight Line Which
Commences On The Southern Boundary Of The Shores Of Lake Jessup And Runs
Southward Along The Eastern Most Boundary Of The Deleon Street Right-Of-Way
And Which Terminates On The Northern Most Boundary Of The City Of Oviedo.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2006-02 by "Title." and stated, "This also is Second
Reading of this Ordinance and because the legal advertisement did not get published in
the newspaper ten (10) days prior to this Meeting this evening. This Ordinance will have
to come back to you for Third and Final Reading at your next Meeting."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Jim Logue, 3205 Elm Street, Oviedo, Florida: representing the Black Hammock
Association, Mr. Logue thanked the City Commission for their actions and asked if we
could have the City of Oviedo follow suit.
Mayor Bush stated, "We do plan to bring this up at our Joint Meeting with the Oviedo
Council. "
Mr. Robert King, 2211 Black Hammock, Oviedo, Florida: noted that what the City
Commission did was "significant" and spoke of development in the area.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Commissioner Krebs said regarding Lake Jesup, "In this Ordinance, it has two (2) s's, so
we might want to try and make it one - to make it right."
Discussion.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO A CHANGE IN THE
ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. ONE THING WE DISCUSSED UP FRONT
WHEN WE WERE WITH THE COUNTY IS THE INCLUSION - THE
LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN;
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THIS ORDINANCE
AS WELL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE ATTORNEY TO ADD THE
APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE INTO THIS ORDINANCE THAT ADOPTS OR
REQUIRES THE ADOPTION OF THIS LANGUAGE INTO OUR GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AT THE NEXT
TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE THE CITY WILL HAVE, AND THAT THAT
WILL COME BACK THAT WAY FOR THE THIRD READING AND THE
ADOPTION HEARING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
"I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO SAY WE WILL PUT IT IN
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN SIXTY (60) DAYS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "JUST FOR CLARIFICATION,
COMMISSIONER BLAKE'S RECOMMENDATION IS - REALLY A
DIRECTIVE TO PUT IT IN THE NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
CYCLE WHICH IS NOT UNTIL AUGUST ANYWAY. THE EARLIEST THE
CITY COMMISSION COULD ACT ON IT FOR TRANS MITT AL WOULD BE IN
NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR AND FINAL ADOPTION WOULD BE IN
JANUARY - OF 2007."
COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE
SPELLING OF JESUP WOULD BE CHANGED ALSO."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Remove From The Table And Hold A Public
Hearing For The Aesthetic Review Of Sonoma Pointe, A 424-Unit Engle Homes
Townhouse Development To Be Located In The Town Center On The 40 Acres
Immediately South Of St. John's Landing On The East Side Of Tuskawilla Road.
Mayor Bush asked, "Do we have a Motion to remove from the Table."
"MOTION." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
BLAKE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side B
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Manager McLemore stated, "I would like to recommend this matter be delayed until the
next Meeting - subject to negotiations that 1 want to continue with these people over
some issues about aesthetics that 1 think we could accomplish by the next Meeting that
would improve the project."
Discussion.
"MOVE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "AND PRESERVE ADVERTISING."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Due to technical difficulties, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 3/Side A
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REGULAR AGENDA
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300. Not Used.
Manager McLemore left the Commission Chambers at 9:04 p.m.
REGULAR
302. Office Of The City Manager
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of The City's Efforts Regarding
Evaluation Of The Operations Of The City's Utility Billing Department.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
With discussion, Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department addressed payments
anci on-line access. Discussion followed on billing cycles with Ms. Greco.
Manager McLemore said to Ms. Greco, "We will talk about it." Manager McLemore
then said to the City Commission, "You made a point and we'll certainly look at that as
some of the things we can do."
Further discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '302'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
303. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Formally Receive The Small Area Study Relating
To Possible Annexation Of Soldier's Creek Park And The Surrounding Area.
Mr. Stevenson commented on issues related to this Agenda Item.
Ms. Tracy Crowe, Principal, Land Design Innovations Incorporated, 140 North Orlando
Avenue, Suite 295, Winter Park, Florida: addressed the Commission regarding this
Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
Mayor Bush stated, "Does the Commission wish to pursue any other course of action
or just as Commissioner Miller said, accept the Report?" Commissioner Krebs
remarked, "Accept the Report." No objections were voiced. Mayor Bush noted, "I
think we have Consensus that we will accept the Report and take no further action."
Commissioner Gilmore then said, "The opening of the Report, where you refer to this
drawing, and it is all based on colors and we've got black and white issues, and I had to
go back into the back to find out what it was all about."
"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '302'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WAS
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "404",
WAS HEARD NEXT, AS IT HAD BEEN MOVED TO THE END OF THE
AGENDA. .:..:.
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(FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "404")
Office Of The City Manager
Requesting the City Commission Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The
Amount Of $25,000.00 To Fund Costs Associated With A Feasibility Study For The
Creation Of An Assessment District In The Winter Springs Town Center.
Discussion ensued on whether a different Vendor could be used.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "What I would like to see in here, that if this Assessment
District is formed, that the City will get back the money that was fronted - that is what
was done with the TLBD (Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District) and I think
should be done with this one also." Commissioner Krebs added, "And Oak Forest too."
Further discussion.
Commissioner Krebs asked, "Who is Camille Tharp?" Commissioner Krebs further said
to Manager McLemore, "Does she have a Title? She should use it."
"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '404'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush stated, "Weare going to take a break in the future before Informational to
sign documents." Mayor Bush added, "In the future, we will be taking a break - before
Informational. "
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 1 0: 20 p. m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 10:35 p.m.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED AGAIN, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
301. Office Of The City Manager, Office Of The City Attorney And Office Of The
City Clerk
Request That The City Commission Consider Approving Resolution 2006-25 Which
Will Establish A Public Notice Policy For City Commission Meetings And Other
City Sponsored Official Functions And Community Forums In Accordance With
Law.
"MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM '301' FOR ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese stated, "On page 2 of 4 of Resolution 2006-25, Section 2. (E), it
should read, 'Meetings between the Mayor and one or more members of the City
Commission or meetings between one or more members of the City Commission to
discuss some matter which could foreseeably come before the city commission for
action' ."
"MOTION TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT ANTHONY
[GARGANESE] JUST SPOKE OF IN ITEM - '301' - SUBPARAGRAPH 2. (E)"
OF RESOLUTION 2006-25. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "We have now by written agreement of FDOT (Florida
Department of Transportation) approval of our [State Road] 434 Access Plan."
Tape 4/Side A
Secondly, Manager McLemore spoke of potential litigation with Waste Services.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE OUR ATTORNEY'S ADVICE AND
NOT PROCEED WITH ANY FURTHER LITIGATION WITH WASTE
SERVICES' PREVIOUS CONTRACT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MAYOR BUSH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces mentioned the Budget Workshop tomorrow evening, and the
upcoming Advisory Board and Committee Appreciation Dinner scheduled for Friday,
May 12, 2006.
Brief discussion followed on other Meetings being held this week.
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REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore mentioned he was concerned about comments made at tonight's
Meeting during "Public Input" related to the Lawsuit with Seminole County and stated,
"They keep bringing up the issue that this lawsuit evolved over the Black Hammock
when in reality, an awful lot of that lawsuit revolves around the County trying to regulate
Zoning in enclaves within the City. Now I think we need to get that out to the public so
they understand the whole issue."
Commissioner Miller suggested that Commissioner Gilmore talk to Sandra Pedicini with
the Orlando Sentinel.
Mayor Bush said, "I think Commissioner Gilmore has a point about the fact our lawsuit is
really about Home Rule, it is not about the Black Hammock, and the only thing I know
that we could possibly do is if the Commission thinks it is appropriate and necessary is to
send a letter out to our citizens explaining what we are talking about." Commissioner
Krebs suggested, "If you do that, I really think that you need to explain it in layman's
terms so that people can understand it."
With discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "I have confidence that between Mr. McLemore and
Anthony [Garganese] - that a letter could be written - if the Commission wants it done."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am in favor of communication - I really am.
Communication I think, is really, really important." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Yes."
Commissioner Miller remarked, "Yes, but I would like to say to the Attorney to really put
his thinking hat on, and include examples." Commissioner Miller suggested, "Things
that could happen in areas like in Tuscawilla." Commissioner Krebs added, "The
Highlands too." Mayor Bush commented that, "I think between Anthony [Garganese]
and Ron [McLemore], I think that is very doable. Wouldn't you say Mr. McLemore?"
Manager McLemore stated, "Very." Mayor Bush added, "We will proceed with that and
we will bring it back to you at some point, and we will decide how to distribute it."
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Absent.
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REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I received in my mailbox, the student count that you had
put in there, and I find that interesting - what I would like to know though in Heritage
Park - it is a total of forty (40), but what is the occupancy of Heritage Park at this point?"
Brief discussion.
Mayor Bush noted that Winter Springs Elementary School was not at capacity level.
Commissioner Krebs spoke of a letter from Banc of America Strategic Solutions, [Inc.].
Manager McLemore stated regarding this letter, "We are pursuing that as quickly as we
can - the one about the reclaimed water." Mayor Bush added, "I think the Manager
needs time to look at this and get back to with the answers to those questions." Manager
McLemore added, "I actually have drafted a response, but it - is in draft form."
REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush asked, "Where are we on WiFi?" Manager McLemore stated, "Joanne
[Dalka] is bringing you a Report, I believe at your next Commission Meeting."
Mayor Bush spoke of Mr. Ligthart's comments from earlier in the Meeting and stated,
"One of the things that - he doesn't have in his chart there which I mentioned to him was
the fact, when were those Contracts initiated?" Manager McLemore stated, "It's all right
here." Mayor Bush added, "I think, yes, we need to let him know that."
Lastly, Mayor Bush spoke of calling the Meeting back earlier this evening and noted, "If
an item needs to be discussed at length, I think asking it to be pulled aside on the Agenda
would be the way to do it, so we could move on with things."
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller remarked, "I just would like to ask all the Commissioners to think
seriously about what an Aesthetic Review is. If each of us has ideas that we think would
really make something better, I think we really ought to push for those items and not just
kind of say, 'Oh Okay'." Commissioner Miller suggested, "Stick with it and don't just
give up."
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Commissioner Miller commented on the Eckerd's store near [State Road] 419 and
stated, "I would like the Commission to think about possibly a Winter Springs Library
at the site where the Eckerd's store is right now." Commissioner Miller then
explained, "I would like a Consensus that maybe the Staff maybe ought to take a look
at the possibility. "
Commissioner Krebs suggested, "Before we even pursue - or spend the time to even
look at the possible uses, we should see if it is for sale and how much it costs." Then,
Commissioner Krebs added, "Then look at the possible uses, not necessarily a Library,
maybe there are other uses also. "
With discussion, Mayor Bush asked, "Is the Commission in agreement then to give Mr.
McLemore a month?" Commissioner Gilmore suggested that we "Turn this over to a
Consultant who is experienced in determining what a Library requires as far as a
building and land and then going down there and finding out what is available, what is
on that site and what is available around it and then get back to Ron McLemore on it,
but I don i think it is a job for the City Staff." With further discussion, Manager
McLemore said, "I will develop an outline for you." Mayor Bush in conclusion said to
Manager McLemore, "You have Consensus on that I believe."
Discussion ensued on the McDonald's location in the City and the Town Center.
Lastly, Commissioner Miller explained that "When you get off Trail Bridge, coming
across [State Road] 434 over here, there is a Trail that hooks up with the Town Center
extension coming off where the fountains are, and I would like somebody from Staff to
go out there." Commissioner Miller explained that three (3) or four (4) trees have fallen
down and this needs to be taken care of. Mayor Bush inquired, "Why won't the County
go ahead and take care of this?" Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "We need to
take care of that."
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Deputy Mayor Blake said to Manager McLemore, "What is our status currently with the
re-write of the Pension Plan?" Deputy Mayor Blake then inquired, "Currently there is no
provision for disability - is that an employer paid benefit or is that optional - long term
disability?" Manager McLemore stated, "I am going to check on long-term." Deputy
Mayor Blake added, "I believe the short term was optional." Deputy Mayor Blake added,
"I need to get with - Kevin [Smith] - and go over those kind of things, specifically
regarding the long term disability piece, the Early Retirement actuarial reduction values
and the survivor and disability benefits if any, in the Pension Plan." Manager McLemore
stated, "Okay."
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 :30 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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TV CLERK
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the May 22, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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