HomeMy WebLinkAbout2019 04 29 City Commission Special Meeting MinutesThe Special Meeting of Monday, April 29, 2019 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor Charles Lacey at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs,
Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor Charles Lacey, present
Deputy Mayor Kevin Cannon, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Ted Johnson, present
Commissioner TiAnna Hale, present
Commissioner Geoff Kendrick, present
Interim City Manager Shawn Boyle, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Ga rga nese, present
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, present
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Regarding the Agenda and whether there were any possible Agenda Changes,
Mayor Lacey asked, "is there any objection to Adopting the Agenda?" No objections
were voiced, Mayor Lacey pointed out, "It stands Adopted."
Mr. Kevin McCann, 7709 Pheasant Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: noted he was tht
President of the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association (THOA), offered his thanks for
this meeting, and said that residents were not against development, they just
wanted to be a part of the process. Mr. McCann then suggested that the referenct
to notifying other land owners as shown on page 3 of the proposed Ordinance in
Agenda Item 500 be increased from the suggested "one hundred fifty (150) feet".
Mayor Lacey asked Mr. McCann about his comment on the "one hundred fifty (150)
feet" as Mavor Lacev mentioned that Sec. 20-29.1. stipulated "400 feet".
Interim Chief of Police Chris Deisler, Police Department addressed the Mayor and
City Commission with an update to comments made by a resident during "Public
Input" of the April 22, 2019 City Commission Regular Meeting. Interim Chief Deisler
said that regarding scrap metal/nails in a roadway, he had been in touch with the
business in question who advised him they would be more proactive in keeping the
area clear of metal. Interim Chief Deisler was hopeful that their efforts would rectify
the past concerns.
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Commissioner Ted Johnson mentioned that he had been advised that if a Contractor
set up a temporary office like a construction trailer, that they were not permitted to
connect to an existing sewer line and would be required to have portable toilet
facilities available. Commissioner Johnson asked if this was correct.
Mr. Bryant Smith, 111, P.E., CFM, City Engineer, Interim Community Development
Department Director stated, "Typically on a lot of those larger land development
projects there is no sewer to connect to at the time, so you'd have a temporary trailer
with a portable septic type system that they would pump out. We haven't run into a
lot of situations where there's sewer available on site and they request a temporary
construction trailer."
Commissioner Johnson then inquired, "But if there is infrastructure to accommodate
that need, then the City would go ahead and grant permission for them to tie into
it?" Mr. Smith stated, "Yes, if properly designed. I don't see any issue with them
connecting to it."
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500. Draft Ordinance for Amending the Application, Notice, and Review Criteri
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Attorney Garganese began the discussion on this Ordinance and noted, "On the 18 th
of February this year, the Commission directed that a draft Ordinance be prepared.
One of the primaryfeatures would be to consolidate the Town Center Administration
Development Permit process with the General Development Permit process that's
contained elsewhere in Chapter 20 of the Zoning Code."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese pointed out that the Ordinance dealt with Special
Zoning Permits which would include Conditional Uses, Special Exceptions with
respect to the current Town Center Code, Waivers as well as Variances. Attorney
Garganese added that the City Commission would also consider during the
eals Final En.F,,ineeri apw,,rovals Pezonings,
Site Plan and Plat approvals; and also referenced the Limited Administrative Waiver
Process.
Attorney Garganese noted next that what was not affected by this proposed
Ordinance was "The list of Conditional Uses and currently Special Exceptions Uses
listed in the Town Center Land Use matrix; that Conditional Uses and Special
Exceptions will be considered separately by the Commission and any changes will
be addressed by a separate Ordinance. We have the planning council that's going
to be assisting the City with some of the Land Use matters and their professional
opinion I'm sure, will come into more play with respect to the list of Uses that are in
the Code.
I just want to note that the one (1) exception that will be addressed in this Ordinance
as proposed, is an exception to that comment and that is currently under the Town
Center Land Use matrix - Special Exception Uses will be relabeled, Conditional Uses
and that's an important change in that the relabeling from Special Exception to
Conditional Uses will merge the Town Center Process with the General Development
Process; and Special Exceptions, which will be relabeled Conditional Uses, will be
subject to more detailed application and Conditional Use criteria that's currently
found in the General Zoning Code."
Next, Attorney Garganese gave an overview of some of the proposed changes to tht
Ordinance which he explained would include a discretionary Advisory Hearing
Officer who could conduct Land Use Permit Hearings if needed; Land Use Permit
Applications would be posted on the City's website within f ive (5) days of f iling with
the City; an optional Conceptual Plan Peview process; a pre -application meeting with
the Community Development Department; the Development Permit Application
requirements/process would be improved; and Applicants would submit completed
Applications with all relevant information which would help the City determine
compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan and Code of Ordinances.
Attorney Garganese added that also included was for all development and
redevelopment projects, as well as Conditional Uses that required more than small
modifications to existing site plans, to be documented in a binding Development
Agreement; a Developer would be required to hold a publicly noticed community
workshop consistent with Code requirements; minimum requirements for
recommendations from City Staff when issues were presented to the City
Commission; improved review criteria for special Zoning Permits and rules for
Administrative Appeals when applicable.
Further, Attorney Garganese explained that the proposed Ordinance involved
including unique features of the Town Center Code as part of the Limited
Administrative Waiver procedure; would allow some limited Waivers without
compliance with the Waiver Application process; and the City Commission could
utilize limited administrative criteria to approve applicable Waivers.
Attorney Garganese reviewedthe many details of the proposed changes to the Town
Center Code including a new concept of employing an Advisory Hearing Off icer on
an as needed basis. Further comments.
Continuing, Attorney Garganese said, "If this Ordinance passes, the Commission
could use the Limited Administrative Waiver process - a proposed up to fifteen
percent (15%) of the applicable requirement, and the Commission could approve that
Waiver in conjunction with some other final decision; so, there wouldn't be a
separate Application to request a Waiver from the Town Center Code and go through
the other Waiver process."
Attorney Garganese ended the presentation by saying, "What are the next steps? Of
course, we certainly need the Commission's comments regarding the draft
Ordinance, we need to complete the draft Ordinance. There's some wordsmithing
that certainly still needs to be done."
Continuing, Attorney Garganese commented, "Once the draft Ordinance is
completed, it needs to be referred to the Land Planning Agency and they need to
conduct one (1) Public Hearing and make a recommendation to the Commission by
Florida Law; and then the Commission would have to Adopt it and that requires two
(2) Public Hearings."
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accordingly and then evidence would be presented, a staff presentation would be
presented, and the Hearing Off icer would be also taking in public comment - and
then kind of synthesize all that evidence down and present it to the Commission for
consideration with a recommendation."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese pointed out, "The Applicant would be given the
opportunity to present their evidence before a Hearing Officer; so would interested
parties, and staff."
Deputy Mayor Kevin Cannon mentioned he had some concerns about the proposed
Administrative Hearing Officer but that it might be helpful for more complex issues
and suggested the City Commission needed more time to go through the draft
Ordinance.
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Cannon commented on the Town Center its
Develo�#,ment Agreements as addressed in the draft
150 feet as noted in Sec. 20-28. was adequate, and that he found out about new
projects when they first were noted on Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning
Agency Agendas which hedid not feel was adequate notice for the City Commission.
Deputy Mayor Cannon then spoke of including the public, extending notices related
to Sec. 20-28., and website notices.
Commissioner Geoff Kendrick agreed with Deputy Mayor Cannon on needing more
time to review the draft Ordinance.
Next, Commissioner Kendrick said he thought five (5) business days was a quick
turnaround time to give notice to citizens about application submissions and noted
that previously ten (10) days had been the preferred timeframe policy.
Commissioner Kendrick then addressed transparency, the Hearing Officer, quasi-judicial
roles, undue hardships, the 150 foot rule/ the 400 foot rule, as well as involving citizens which
would be very beneficial, especially to Developers.
Next, Commissioner Kendrick inquired who would attend and inquired, "Will this be
something that Commissioners attend because if we attend and are compelled to
speak because someone wants our opinion, that becomes a problem."
Attorney Garganese noted, "The way it should work - it should be the Applicant and
anyone in the public that wants to attend, to have that dialogue and communication,
and Staff."
Commissioner TiAnna Hale complimented Attorney Garganese for his work on this
Ordinance, and asked if more Public Input could be held during the pre -application
meeting timeframe? Attorney Garganese briefly spoke of some potential concerns,
then said he could review this further and discuss this with Staff.
Continuing, Commissioner Hale then inquired if public notices could be shared more
via social media to which Attorney Garganese said, "Yes, certainly, the City's Facebook
page."
Commissioner Jean Hovey suggested that in light of the current time and the
Roundtable discussion scheduled, "I think we should Postpone, Table, do whatever
we need to do to move this to our next regularly scheduled meeting, to discuss any
additional issues that we might have with it." Deputy Mayor Cannon remarked, "I
agree." Commissioner Hale stated, "Agreed."
Mayor Lacey pointed out, "if the Commission is in agreement, then we would like for
this discussion to continue at the next get together that we have; either at a
Workshop or a meeting." No objections were noted.
501. Round -Table Visioning Session with the East Central Florida Regional
Planning Council and Local Developers
Mayor Lacey introduced this Agenda Item and representatives Ms. Tara McCue and
Mr. Fred Milch from the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council.
Ms. Toro McCue, AlCP, Director of Planning & Community Development, East
Central Florida Regional Planning Council, 455 North Garland Avenue, Orlando,
Florida: addressed those in attendance and remarked, "I just want to give you an
overview of what we're going to be doing over the next few months. Two (2) big parts
of our process will be reviewing your 2009 Strategic Plan, and the trends that have
occurred in the community for the past ten (10) years. So, the Strategic Plan was
completed with some goals and objectives so we're going to talk with the City Staff,
the Directors, look at the plans that came out of that, and see what was done, see
how far they got in implementing that Strategic Plan.
And then we're going to look at development trends, economy trends, demographic
trends that have also happened within the City, and see what kind of path the City is
moving.
We're also going to engage the public a lot. We're going to have - three (3)
Workshops, and then an interactive Survey. Like I said, the Strategic Plan, we're
going to look at the goals and objectives, growth, development, demographics, and
economic development. When that is completed, we're going to do a report and
present to the council in June.
For public engagement - our first Workshop will happen in mid-june. What we'll do
is we will have a public Workshop and then a Workshop geared towards the business
community. For the public Workshop, we're going to want to ask you guys about
your values for here in Winter Springs, what are priorities, what do you guys want to
see in the future. So, come ready to talk about all of that.
For the business Workshop, we're going to talk about strategies to grow the
businesses here that are wanted or needed. What are needs for the business
community to succeed in Winter Springs and what are opportunities.
Then in July, we're going to do an interactive Survey, so we really want to make this
stakeholder driven. So, all of the information you guys give to us in those Workshops
is really important; so, talk to your neighbors, get as many people out to those
workshops as possible. We're going to take that and then put that into a Survey that
you can take on line or on your phone. It's really interactive."
Ms. McCue added that the City Commission had spoken of having a booth at the
City's "Celebration of Freedom" event on July 4, 2019 and the survey could also be
taken while at this event.
Continuing, Ms. McCue noted, "Then we'll finish that up with a Findings Report in
August, and then we'll present that Findings Report and Recommendations for the
next step to the Commission in September, once everything is all wrapped up and
we work through all of the information that you all have provided to us."
Mr. Bryan Schultz, 6474 Montclair Bluff Lane, Windermere, Florida: thought that the
process outlined during the last Agenda Item and as shown on the PowerPoint
presentation was already being adhered to, that he was supportive of any
streamlined efforts, commended City Staff for their assistance, and noted that
communication was very important.
Mr. Sam J. Sebooli, P.E., President, Florida Engineering Group, S727 South Orange
Avenue, Suite 200, Orlando, Florida: commented that predictability was very
important to Developers, how helpful it was for Developers to know what was
expected especially early on in the process which saves time and money, thought
that this City allowed a lot of public input already and that other municipalities do
not usually require a public review for simple site plans, and suggested Winter
Springs do something to streamline our processes.
Mr. Don Edwards, Vice President of Land, Dream Finders Homes, 8529 Southpork
Circle, Suite 730, Orlando, Florida: agreed with what had been said thus far, that he
was surprised that Elected Officials were not aware of new projects until such
projects were listed on Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Agendas
and that feedback was very helpful.
Mr. Ryon Stahl, 630 South Maitland Avenue, Suite 700, Maitland, Florida: said
Developers needed to be aware of what processes are involved and what was
required, and mentioned a new process that the City of Oviedo implemented when
his company handled a project there.
Mr. Lee Barnes, 2804 Wright Avenue, Winter Pork, Florida: thanked the City
Commission for this forum, congratulated Attorney Garganese on his work with
Chapter 20, and noted the downside of Moratoriums on a community.
Mr. Dan Edwards: spoke of procedures, community meetings, and wondered if ii
District Commissioner could meet with a Developer to improve the process.
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Attorney Garganese said, "if this Ordinance passes, that non -binding preliminary
review is available for all development projects within the City."
Deputy Mayor Cannon mentioned the wording included an "optional" reference. In
terms of Developers, Deputy Mayor Cannon suggested there be, "An opportunity for
them to come in and make a preliminary presentation to the community and then -
thirty (30) minutes later to us."
Attorney Garganese said, "I'm hearing from at least the Developers that are in this
room they would like to have that feedback from the Commission earlier in the
process rather than later. It's always been an optional process in the Town Center,
it's never been mandated. Why Developers don't take advantage of that process
more often has puzzled me for years, but it's available. If the Commission wanted to
mandate not only the Community Workshop but also have a non -binding review, we
can look at possibly incorporating that into the Code."
Further, Attorney Garganese added that Developers may prefer to go before the
public first and then later provide a more fine-tuned project to the City Commission.
Discussion followed.
Commissioner Hale spoke of involving the public more, transparency, and
communication.
Mr. Ryan Stahl: commented on processes in other municipalities, getting initial
input from a District Commissioner and if Workshops were scheduled, could they be
scheduled approximately sixty (60) days out, communication, and his frustration with
not being able to directly discuss matters with Commissioners.
Further comments followed on quasi-judicial matters and input.
Mr. Ryon Stahl: noted some issues they had in the past with not receiving clear
direction.
Mr. Bryon Schultz: commented on the typical process that is usually adhered to, and
that in many communities across the country, City Staff are usually in sync with their
Elected Officials therefore when Developers work closely with City Staff, they then
a re awa re of how a project m ig ht be viewed by the Elected Off icia Is.
MAYOR LACEY SUMMARIZED THAT THE MOTION WAS "TO EXTEND, UNTIL WE
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Mr. James Vanderkroke, Senior Project Manager, Infinity Engineering Group,
7208 East Kennedy Boulevard, Suite 230, Tampa, Florida: explained that he works
with national brands who often have corporate images which are hard to modify,
that corporate preferred vehicular circulation plans need to be complied with, so if a
government agency asks that the orientation of a building be changed to meet a
particular setback requirement, that often becomes a difficult situation. M r.
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completed and such timeframes usually cannot be modified.
Commissioner Johnson commented that he appreciated Mr. Schultz' last remarks,
that Workshops were very helpful to the City, to residents, and to Developers; his
preference was to get information as soon as possible, and that he personally would
appreciate Developers with new projects hold Workshops early in the process.
Deputy Mayor Cannon mentioned his desire for more timely notifications and that
going forward, he hoped to be better informed.
Mr. Dan Edwards: said that Staff had been doing a great job, spoke of processes,
unknowns, and thought working with a District Commissioner would be helpful, and
that feedback was very important.
Mayor Lacey noted, "We should find some way for the political climate to be relayed
to Developers - I think that is what we are talking about doing here."
Further, Mayor Lacey said, "I certainly understand that what we are trying to protect
is the ability of Commissioners to Vote in a quasi-judicial matter, not disqualify
themselves bytaking any predetermined action that does disqualify them; but given
the way our rules are written, if it is the will of the Commission to somehow make
that avenue somewhat available, are there approaches that you can look at, that
would set guidelines that don't go across the boundaries and allow that
communication to happen?"
Attorney Garganese responded, "I'd have to evaluate that Mayor." Attorney
Garganese added, "With all the changes that we're making with the Code regarding
Workshops and non -binding reviews, there might be opportunities to relax it on the
front end before you get into the processing of the official formal application. I can
look at that and advise the Commission accordingly."
Mayor Lacey said to those in attendance, "We will give it an effort."
Discussion followed on the project process, vehicular circulation patterns, possible
changes to Code requirements, and faux two (2) story requirements in the Town
Center.
Commissioner Kendrick suggested that after an Application is submitted, that a
Developer could be asked to present their concept to the City Commission which
would open up the dialogue.
Mr. Bryan Schultz: thought all Developers would be willing to make adjustments
when possible and noted the importance of communication and feedback.
Attorney Garganese asked the Developers for their thoughts on Development
Agreements.
Mr. Pyan Stahl: said that having discussions memorialized in a Development
Agreement for the most part was fine, however, requiring a Development
Agreement for a relatively simple project was probably too much.
Mr. Rob Meyer, Partner, Catalyst Development Partners, LLC, 880 Glenwood Avenue
SE, Suite H, Atlanta, Georgia: said that Development Agreements were very
beneficial for large apartment projects, and added that communication was very
helpful as well as quick timelines.
Mr. James Vanderkroke: thought that Development Agreements were helpful for
projects that would be transferred to the public, however for contained stand-alone
projects, then a Development Agreement would probably not be of interest to them.
Deputy Mayor Cannon spoke to Mr. Vaderkrake and any Engineers present, and
suggested they provide preferred technical modifications to City staff, then any
suggestions could possibly be considered. Deputy Mayor Cannon then suggested
that Interim Manager Boyle could follow up with the City Commission.
Mr. Ryan Stahl: addressed communication efforts and noted that meetings in the
past with Elected Officials had been declared as ex parte communications. Mr. Stahl
also mentioned that some communities require a year between the time a project
was turned down before they could apply again and was unsure if Winter Springs
had a similar policy.
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the June 10, 2019 City Commission Regular Meeting.