HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018 02 20 Consent 300 Unapproved Minutes from the December 5, 2017 Regular MeetingBOARD OF TRUSTEES
AGENDA ITEM
ITEM 300
February 20, 2018
Regular Meeting
REQUEST:
Informational
Consent
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Public Hearings
Regular
The Office Of The City Clerk Is Requesting The Board Of Trustees Consider And Approve The
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 (Rescheduled From Tuesday, November 14, 2017) Board Of
Trustees Regular Meeting Minutes.
ATTACHMENT(S):
A. Unapproved Copy Of The Tuesday, December 5, 2017 Board Of Trustees Regular Meeting
Minutes (7 Pages)
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
BOARD OF TRUSTEES
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 5, 2017
(RESCHEDULED FROM NOVEMBER 14, 2017)
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Tuesday, December 5, 2017 (Rescheduled from Tuesday,
November 14, 2017) of the Board of Trustees was called to Order by Chairperson David
Withee at 5:35 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall,
1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson David Withee, present
Vice -Chairperson Robin Paris, present
Board Member Stephen Krohn, present
Board Member Cindy Sosa, absent
Assistant to the City Clerk Antonia DeJesus, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
No changes to the Agenda were made.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
200. Finance and Administrative Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Advising The Board Of
Trustees Of The October 1, 2016 Chapter 112.664, F.S. Compliance Report From
Gabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company.
This Agenda Item was not addressed.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Chairperson Withee opened "Public Input".
No one spoke.
Chairperson Withee closed "Public Input".
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
300. Office Of The City Clerk
The Office of the City Clerk Is Requesting The Board of Trustees Consider And
Approve The Thursday, August 10, 2017 (Rescheduled From Tuesday, August 8,
2017) Board Of Trustees Regular Meeting Minutes.
Regarding the Minutes for consideration and approval specifically Page 7, Chairperson
Withee pointed out, "In the fifth paragraph, where Chairperson Withee expresses
agreement with Mr. West and wondered, `Are we better off sitting in a tenured treasury?',
it should read `ten (10) year'." Chairperson Withee noted the error again repeated in the
same paragraph.
Assistant to the City Clerk Antonia DeJesus acknowledged Chairperson Withee's
comments.
Discussion followed on exposure to the stabilities of treasuries, representations in the
portfolio, and strategic allocation.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST
BOARD MEETING." MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON WITHEE. SECONDED BY
VICE -CHAIRPERSON PARIS. DISCUSSION.
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK DEJESUS CONFIRMED THAT THE
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WOULD INCLUDE THE CORRECTION OF
"TENURED" TO "TEN (10) YEAR". NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER KROHN: AYE
VICE -CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
CHAIRPERSON WITHEE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
500. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The Board
Of Trustees Receive From AndCo Consulting The Fourth Quarter Investment
Return Report And Enter Into A Discussion.
Mr. Dave West, Senior Consultant, AndCo Consulting, 4901 Vineland Road, Suite 600,
Orlando, Florida: referenced Page 2 of the "Quarterly Investment Report" and spoke of
various impacts on the portfolio over the course of the quarter.
Continuing, Mr. West reviewed fiscal year performance of several indexes. On Page 18,
Mr. West commented on fund balances and then referred to Page 21, and pointed out
actuarial implications for investments. Mr. West stated, "As far as this year goes, excellent
year. Results were very, very strong, but the implications for the actuarial math is no
effect." Additional comments followed on associated one (1), three (3), and five (5) year
projection numbers.
Mr. West referred to Page 19 and noted the portfolio's exposure to domestic and
international equities and the correlated results. In addition, Mr. West pointed out an error
on Page 20 and noted, "I'll get my shop working on that, and we'll come back either a
revised book or some bullet explanations of what that was."
Board Member Stephen Krohn inquired, "What is the expected long term return for
Intercontinental?"
With brief comments, Mr. West replied, "Their return should always be a little bit higher
than our conservative American Core Realty fund; that's a very bread-and-butter, low
leverage, Class A office space only, ninety-two percent (92%) leased type investment. So,
we would anticipate if American comes in six (6%) or seven (7%), Intercontinental should
probably stay up through the cycle — percent (1 %), maybe a percent and a half (1.5%), two
percent (2%) higher range." Further remarks.
Board Member Krohn then commented on quarterly numbers and inquired if there were
any concerns. Mr. West answered, "No, we don't have any concerns."
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Mr. West addressed Page 17 and reviewed contributions and distributions and added, "We
are still cash flow positive." Further comments followed on investments fees and other
investment expenses.
Continuing, Board Member Krohn spoke positively about employee contributions and
wondered why there was an increase in contributions.
Mr. Shawn Boyle, Director, Finance and Administrative Services Department replied, "It's
intentional. The Commission — City Manager has made a commitment to reducing the
City's debt. One of the largest debts that are on the books is the unfunded liability in the
Pension. So, in the last five (5) years, we've paid off in excess of ten million dollars
($10,000,000.00) worth of debt on bonds. We have also made a substantial increase in
contributions above what the ARC which is the Annual Required Contribution." With
further comments, Mr. Boyle stated, "You're going to see positive contributions above
distributions as long as we can do that."
Regarding Page 12 and asset allocations, Mr. West stated, "I'd like to suggest that, going
forward — and again this recommendation is a long-term investment viewpoint, but one that
is biased by cycle awareness of the current investment environment. So, any change would
be tactical in nature, but should still be considered to be reasonably long-term projecting
out into the future. And that would be to maintain the total equity overweight but move
the domestic equity back to the target and actually increase the international equity."
Furthermore, Mr. West mentioned the improving health of the global economy and
surmised, "My recommendation is to rebalance the domestic equity portfolio back to target
and take those proceeds and move the international equity portfolio commensurately to an
overweight."
Much discussion followed on international equities, global fixed income, strategic asset
allocation, as well as receipt and disbursement details.
Chairperson Withee asked about the specific composition of Mr. West's recommendation.
With additional remarks, Mr. West commented, "I'll give you my conclusion
recommendation — is to go with what's called PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management
Company) Diversified Income fund."
Mr. West distributed the "Global Bond Asset Class Primer" with additional comments.
Continuing, Mr. West indicated that with his recommendation, the investment manager
makes the decision to increase or decrease in the weightings in three (3) major investment
areas and added, "We're getting an active management element on a global scale and across
different quality levels of bond offerings."
Brief comments followed on disbursements and receipts.
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Mr. West referred to the "Global Bond Asset Class Primer" and discussion followed on
investment managers, global bond funds, associated risks, asset allocation strategy, the
PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management Company) fund, the "credit crisis", and various
multi -statistic analyses of funds.
Chairperson Withee wondered how many international bond funds were considered. Mr.
West replied, "We've looked at the entire universe." Mr. West further addressed the
selection and recommendation process.
Board Member Krohn commented on the Loomis Salyes fund and wondered what the
deciding factor was to recommend the PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management
Company). Mr. West stated, "The quick answer is the — performance volatility in the
Loomis [Sayles] fund is very high. And over time, when we had those periods of risk -on
and risk -off, during those risk -off periods the Loomis [Sayles] fund performance was
materially impacted much more."
Much discussion followed on the Loomis Salyes and PIMCO (Pacific Investment
Management Company).
Chairperson Withee commented, "The Loomis [Salyes] is at fifty-seven (57) basis points
— is the minimum for that to get to the institutional class also three million dollars
($3,000,000.00)?" In response, Mr. West stated, "I believe the Loomis [Salyes] fund may
have — a lower minimum."
Speaking to Mr. West, Chairperson Withee stated, "You've done the leg work and done
the comparison from whatever the universe of potential bond investments or managers
were down to this five (5) group that you've shown us. And your recommendation is for
the PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management Company)..." Mr. West stated, "...Right."
Chairperson Withee continued, "...And that's due to the lower volatility."
Referring again to the "Quarterly Investment Report", Mr. West pointed out various
information pertaining to the portfolio on Page 24. Mr. West also referenced Page 41 and
briefly reviewed investment management fees.
Board Member Krohn commented on the comparisons between the Loomis Salyes and
PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management Company) fund managers and noted, "To me, if
I were to pick, I would still pick Loomis [Salyes]." Board Member Krohn spoke further
on Loomis Salyes and its performance and inquired as to how PIMCO (Pacific Investment
Management Company) could be the better option.
Responding to Board Member Krohn, Mr. West explained, "Loomis [Salyes] — has more
latitude to overweight/underweight, and they'll take more risks from a practical
standpoint."
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Furthermore, Mr. West indicated, "The PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management
Company) investment management strategy is constrained by the three (3) silos and a focus
to maintaining a high level of income."
Mr. West briefly touched on maintaining an income advantage and expanded on the
Loomis Salyes and PIMCO's (Pacific Investment Management Company) investment
strategies and noted, "Both are excellent funds." Discussion followed.
In conclusion, Mr. West summarized, "The first recommendation was in reference to the
equity allocations and is to rebalance domestic equity back to the target — roughly three
percent (3%), and move those funds commensurately over to the international equity
allocation. And again, that would be done on a percentage basis." Chairperson Withee
asked, "And that would be to RBC [Royal Bank of Canada], corrected?" Mr. West
confirmed, "Right."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FOLLOW THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION
WHICH IS TO TAKE THE OVERAGE FOR THE DOMESTIC EQUITY AND
MOVE THAT INTO THE INTERNATIONAL EQUITY, PER THE
RECOMMENDATION FROM ANDCO [CONSULTING]." MOTION BY
CHAIRPERSON WITHEE. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KROHN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE -CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
CHAIRPERSON WITHEE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KROHN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"AND THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DO SOMETHING
SIMILAR WHICH IS TO TAKE THE EXCESS IN DOMESTIC FIXED INCOME,
ROUGHLY — TWO POINT EIGHT PERCENT (2.8%) — AND MOVE THAT TO
THE TOTAL GLOBAL FIXED INCOME PORTION OF THE ASSET
ALLOCATION AND TO DO THAT WITH THE PIMCO (PACIFIC
INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT COMPANY) DIVERSIFIED INCOME."
MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON WITHEE. SECONDED BY VICE -CHAIRPERSON
PARIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON WITHEE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KROHN: AYE
VICE -CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further brief comments.
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600. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
PUBLIC INPUT
Chairperson Withee opened "Public Input".
No one spoke.
Chairperson Withee closed "Public Input".
Assistant to the City Clerk DeJesus noted that the next Regular Meeting was scheduled for
Tuesday, February 13, 2018.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Withee adjourned the Regular Meeting at 6:55 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANTONIA DEJESUS
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were Approved at the , 2018 Board of Trustees Regular Meeting.