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CITY COMMISSION
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2017 — 5:15 P.M.
CITY HALL — COMMISSION CHAMBERS
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434, WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
Mayor Charles Lacey
Deputy Mayor Pam Carroll - Seat Three
Commissioner Jean Hovey - Seat One
Commissioner Kevin Cannon - Seat Two
Commissioner Cade Resnick - Seat Four
Commissioner Geoff Kendrick - Seat Five
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, October 9, 2017 of the City Commission was called to Order by
Mayor Charles Lacey at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall,
1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor Charles Lacey, present
Deputy Mayor Pam Carroll, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Kevin Cannon, present
Commissioner Cade Resnick, present
Commissioner Geoff Kendrick, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Regarding the Agenda and whether there were any possible Agenda Changes, Commissioner Kevin
Cannon stated, "I would like to pull "305" for further discussion." No objections were voiced. Mayor
Lacey noted, "Without further objection, the Agenda is adopted."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Office of Chief of Police and Winter Springs Police Department
REQUEST:
Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle presenting the Life Saving Award to Sergeant John Shea and
Officer Anthony Morel for their recent life saving efforts.
Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle, Police Department presented a Life Saving Award to Sergeant John
Shea and Officer Anthony Morel to recognize their recent life saving efforts.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
200. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department is advising the City Commission of the status of
current development projects within the City.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this agenda item.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission receive and review the information provided.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mayor Lacey opened "Public Input ".
Mayor Lacey recognized former Commissioner Robert S. Miller.
Mr. Robert S. Miller, 679 Silvercreek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned speeding on Shore
Road, that residents of Shore Road have petitioned the City Commission about such concerns, hoped the
City would be more responsive, and mentioned a huge skid mark in front of his residence, asked for
assistance, and hoped that a stop sign would be placed at the intersection of Silvercreek Drive and Shore
Road.
Mayor Lacey closed "Public Input".
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
300. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requesting City Commission authorization to enter
into an agreement with MCG Services, LLC for the Concrete Sidewalk and Curb Replacement
project in the amount of $79,585.00 plus a 20% contingency.
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FISCAL IMPACT:
The project cost is $79,585.00 plus a 20% contingency, for a total authorization of $95,502.00,
funded by the Transportation Improvement Fund (Local Option Gas Tax), line code #120 -41-
0000- 545420.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission approve entering into an agreement with MCG Services,
LLC for the Concrete Sidewalk and Curb Replacement project in the amount of $79,585.00 plus
a 20% contingency, and authorize the City Manager and City Attorney to prepare and execute
any and all applicable documents.
No discussion.
CONSENT
301. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requesting City Commission approval of Resolution
2017 -13 and authorization to execute a deed for the donation of land to the Florida Department
of Transportation for the planned construction of a right turn deceleration lane on S.R. 434
westbound at Michael Blake Boulevard.
FISCAL IMPACT:
No funding is required for the donation of lands to FDOT.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective, Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission approve Resolution 2017 -13 and authorize the execution
of a deed for the donation of land to the Florida Department of Transportation for the
construction of a right turn deceleration lane on S.R. 434 westbound at Michael Blake Boulevard.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
302. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
The City Clerk is requesting the City Commission Review and Approve the Monday, September
18, 2017 City Commission Special Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact related to this Agenda Item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission review and consider offering their Approval of the
Monday, September 18, 2017 City Commission Special Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
303. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
The City Clerk is requesting the City Commission Review and Approve the Monday, September
25, 2017 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact related to this Agenda Item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission review and consider offering their Approval of the
Monday, September 25, 2017 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
304. Information Services Department
REQUEST:
The Information Services Department requests Commission authorization to dispose of surplus
assets according to the attached disposition sheet(s).
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no cost to dispose of these surplus assets. The City receives revenue generated from items
sold at auction.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends that the City Commission approve the disposition of the attached list of surplus
assets.
No discussion.
CONSENT
305. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requesting the City Commission: 1) validate the Staff
recommendation finding the Integra 360 Phase 1 sitework to be built in substantial accordance
with the Final Engineering plans, subject to the enclosed punchlist; and 2) accept the Phase 1
public infrastructure improvements for ownership and maintenance.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this site acceptance.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends that the City Commission: 1) validate the Staff recommendation finding the
Integra 360 Phase 1 sitework to be built in substantial accordance with the Final Engineering
plans, subject to the attached punchlist; and 2) accept the public infrastructure improvements for
ownership and maintenance.
This Agenda Item was pulled for separate consideration and will be addressed after the Consent Agenda
as agreed to during Agenda Changes.
Mayor Lacey inquired, "I am looking for a Motion to approve the Consent Agenda less item `305'."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RESNICK. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KENDRICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER CANNON: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR CARROLL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
❖❖ AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT FOR
INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE
AGENDA. ❖ ❖
FO"ERL Y LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS CONSENT "305"
Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requesting the City Commission: 1) validate the Staff
recommendation finding the Integra 360 Phase 1 sitework to be built in substantial accordance
with the Final Engineering plans, subject to the enclosed punchlist; and 2) accept the Phase 1
public infrastructure improvements for ownership and maintenance.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this site acceptance.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends that the City Commission: 1) validate the Staff recommendation finding the
Integra 360 Phase 1 sitework to be built in substantial accordance with the Final Engineering
plans, subject to the attached punchlist; and 2) accept the public infrastructure improvements for
ownership and maintenance.
Commissioner Cannon addressed the infrastructure that would be approved with this Agenda Item and
lift station.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., Director, Community Development Department spoke on these aspects as they
related to this Agenda Item.
Mayor Lacey stated, "Looking for a Motion to approve item `305'."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR CARROLL. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR CARROLL: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER KENDRICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER CANNON: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
400. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requesting City Commission approval of the Final
Engineering and Aesthetic Review Plans for PetSuites Pet Resort and Spa, located at the southeast
corner of the SR 417 / SR 434 interchange.
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FISCAL IMPACT:
The subject property is proposed to be developed into 14,244 square -foot pet boarding facility,
which will provide an increase to the City's taxable value. The potential tax revenue of the
proposed project is as follows:
14,244square foot commercial building = $1,780,500 assessed tax value
o $1,780,500/1000 = 1,780.50
o $1,780.50 x 2.4300 = $4,327
o $4,327 (less the 4% statutory discount) = $4,154 tax revenue
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission approve the Final Engineering Plans and Aesthetic
Review for PetSuites, subject to the approval from FDOT on the SR 434 improvements.
An overview of this proposed project was provided by Mr. Fields.
Mayor Lacey opened "Public Input" on this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Lacey closed "Public Input" on this Agenda Item.
RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS "40099, "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER CANNON. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR CARROLL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER CANNON: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR CARROLL: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER KENDRICK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
500. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department is requesting the City Commission's advisability for a
non - binding preliminary review of a proposed senior apartment project on the Blumberg
property in the Town Center.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this item at this time. If the applicant proceeds with
obtaining approval of final engineering plans and the associated aesthetic review, a fiscal impact
analysis will be prepared in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting
Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is
also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to
applicable City Staff, Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item
information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals
who have requested such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall,
posted inside City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at six
(6) different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item
with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends the City Commission consider and provide non - binding feedback for a
proposed senior apartment project on the Blumberg property in the Town Center.
Mr. Fields began the discussion with a brief introduction to this proposed project.
Mr. Sean M. Flanagan, Managing Director, Alliance Residential Company, 222 West Comstock Avenue,
Suite 115, Winter Park, Florida: addressed the City Commission and spoke of the merits of this active
adult proposed project, amenities, a la carte services, activities, affordability, the vacancies in the Winter
Springs Town Center, that these active adult types of projects often keep active senior citizens in the
community they have been living, and that this site would not support retail or office projects.
Mr. Alec String, VP Sales — Florida, Coldwell Banker Development Services, 2170 West State Road 434,
Suite 450, Longwood, Florida: introduced himself and commented on residents preferring to live in
Winter Springs and this project would be a good next step after home ownership, that the retail market
was changing, and that retail would not work on this property.
Mr. Flanagan further addressed points from the Agenda Item related to no impact on schools, minimal
traffic, and demographics related to the selection of this site.
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Commissioner Geoff Kendrick stated, "You mentioned that there was a two (2) week maximum on
under fifty -five (55) visitation. Is there any sunset clause in that ?" Mr. Flanagan responded, "Not that
I'm aware of No."
Continuing, Commissioner Kendrick asked, "Are there any hardship provisions in that lease, as if
something happens and there is a need to stay ?" Mr. Flanagan remarked, "I have never run across
anything like that so I wouldn't see that we would have to have any type of clause." Mr. Flanagan
added, "It just limits school age children from being able to live there."
Commissioner Cannon then inquired, "What is the lease term that a resident would sign ?" Mr. Flanagan
said, "Typically thirteen (13) months and then they just renew each year."
Next, Commissioner Cannon asked, "How many stories would it be ?" Mr. Flanagan responded, "It
would need to be four (4) stories."
Commissioner Cannon referred to a sketch in the Agenda Item and asked, "What would the distance be
between Blumberg Boulevard where we have all of that landscaping and the fountains and so forth and
the front of the four (4) story building ?" With additional comments, Mr. Flanagan explained, "It would
be whatever the minimum setback is."
In further referring to the plans for the project, Commissioner Cannon asked where the amenities would
be and where events and activities would take place. Mr. Flanagan said, "It would be on the first and
second floors." Mr. Flanagan then pointed to the location on the plans.
Commissioner Cannon inquired, "What is the price per square foot for this type of an active adult versus
say the `Integra [360]' apartments that are going up, or other similar - top end apartments." Mr.
Flanagan noted, "They would vary, but on the average the units would probably be in the nineteen
hundred a month range on average, for all the unit types."
Related to the planned demographics for this type of a development, Mr. Flanagan referenced that the
potential residents for this project would be fifty -seven percent (57 %) single females to which
Commissioner Cannon asked why approximately seventy -five percent (75 %) of the units were then
proposed as two (2) bedroom units. Mr. Flanagan said that when people downsize from a single family
home, they usually need additional space for personal items.
Commissioner Jean Hovey asked, "There is not going to be any Commercial - it is all going to be senior
apartments, correct ?" Mr. Flanagan stated, "Correct."
With further brief discussion, Commissioner Kendrick asked, "What is your standard or - average lease
up time and your average occupancy levels ?"
Mr. Flanagan explained, "Average occupancy level, when stabilized is ninety -eight to one hundred
percent (98 - 100 %). The lease up is a lot slower. It's a very segmented portion of the population so
instead of a multifamily apartment project, which on average will have twenty to twenty -five (20 to 25)
leases a month, we'll have seven to eight (7 - 8) leases a month."
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Commissioner Kendrick then asked, "Do you start that well before...?" Mr. Flanagan noted, "...Yes -
in multifamily usually you start about three (3) months before you deliver first units. With active adults,
you almost start right away marketing and getting people interested and involved." Commissioner
Kendrick then inquired, "And at the point of your first deliverable unit, what percentage of the total
occupancy is in place ?" Mr. Flanagan stated, "Our goal is twenty -five percent (25 %)."
Referring to the referenced a la carte services, Commissioner Cade Resnick pointed out, "All of these
for the most part will be third -party vendors that you are bringing in to facilitate within the facility - is
that correct ?" Mr. Flanagan said, Right." Commissioner Resnick then noted, "Are these built -in options
that are being built in at the same time within this construction that you have vendors in mind ?"
Mr. Flanagan stated, "For this project, we don't have specific vendors in mind at this point — we want it
before we move forward, we want to have some type of consensus and a reasonable understanding that
we would be approved if we came in formally for the request. But we would have room that would
allow for residents to have a hair stylist come in, and there would be a pet grooming facility within the
complex that they could either have a third party come in or they would have a place to take and bring
their dog to bathe it."
Commissioner Resnick added, "So, they're not standing pet facilities, and it's not a standing hair
dressing salon, it is just one that becomes a hair dressing salon..." Mr. Flanagan "...As needed..."
Commissioner Resnick continued, "...One day a week, or whatever." Mr. Flanagan answered, "Right."
Furthermore, Commissioner Resnick asked if Mr. Flanagan had built these type of projects, to which
Mr. Flanagan explained, "I have not. I have twenty (20) years in multifamily development in the State
of Florida." Further remarks.
Commissioner Resnick noted, "So, for me to do research to make myself knowledgeable further, whom
can I reach out to that has done this before that I can understand because this is what concerns me; in a
development such as this, it sounds good on the buy up but then I want to see that the facility continues
doing it five (5) to seven (7) to nine (9) years down the road so the people that are there like a second
generation come out are still offered the same type of service, so who? That would be my request to
Staff, to get me the research I need further."
Referring again to the a la carte services, Commissioner Cannon asked, "If they wanted to have a dog,
their dog groomed, they would pay separately to have the dog groomed ?" Mr. Flanagan said, "Yes."
Commissioner Cannon added, "If they wanted to get a haircut or have a stylist come over, the same
thing? So, what happens five (5) years after this opens if none of these a la carte services or you can't
get providers because they are just not really being used that much; then essentially you have a
multifamily apartment complex right ?"
Mr. Flanagan stated, "No - if you advertise them and offer the services, you have to provide them; so,
we would have to come up with a way either by going to local vendors, or vendors outside the
community to bring those services in."
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Commissioner Cannon remarked, "So, if there is an aerobics instructor or a yoga instructor that after a
while just isn't getting enough residents coming in to the classes and decides they are just not going to
teach the classes anymore because `The Zoo' is just a block away..." Mr. Flanagan pointed out, "...Just
like apartment projects, we will make partnerships with the community vendors to bring services or
allow our residents to go and use services and we help subsidize that with vendors." Mr. Flanagan then
referenced a multifamily project in Winter Park.
Mr. Flanagan added, "The services don't all have to be in house, it's just a convenience for the resident.
I'm not aware of any projects that our partner has developed that has had any issues with not wanting to
service people."
Commissioner Hovey commented on the City's Senior Center and thought something could be worked
out. Mr. Flanagan noted, "It's not a static Senior Living facility. It is a very vibrant and active. We try
to distinguish it from just housing by offering a number of resident classes. Residents don't have to
participate in anything that we provide, whether it's the art classes, the book clubs, or what have you."
Comments continued.
Commissioner Kendrick inquired, "How long have you been building these ?" Mr. Flanagan explained,
"Alliance Residential [Company] is a company, has begun focusing on it within the past year."
Continuing, Commissioner Kendrick asked, "Based on your experience with or your knowledge of the
active adult lifestyle or the active adult community, have you have seen in your experience the fifty -five
(55) and up active adult communities revert back to your regular apartments ?" Mr. Flanagan stated,
"No, the Deed restriction, it would run with the land." Commissioner Kendrick added, "No matter
change of ownership ?" Mr. Flanagan added, "Right, it would run with the land." Remarks followed.
Commissioner Resnick said, "In your presentation, you referenced `The Villages' several times, and
then just said to us, `We'll have opportunities for people, but we don't know what necessarily is going to
happen and how it is going to happen. My two (2) cents is if you want `The Villages', you have to
provide what `The Villages' does, which is to keep people there for a reason. There is always something
active going on; there is always something there. If you bring your project to us, at least on my opinion,
this is my perspective, show me why you are keeping the people there. Make me want to vote for you,
and say `Yes, you are the thing I want to bring to Winter Springs. We are Winter Springs. I am proud
of Winter Springs'."
Next, Commissioner Resnick remarked, "And so, if I want to pick you, I want to pick you because you
are the best — give me a reason to have all of that. Give me a reason to want to go to all of that, not
because `The Zoo' is around the corner. If you are partnering with the gym, tell me up front you are
partnering with the gym, and that is where I am going."
Furthermore, Commissioner Resnick noted, "If you bring your project to me to look at, I want to see that
it is the best and I can't compare it to Winter Park project, because in Winter Park where you have been
building, is a totally different project..." Mr. Flanagan added, "...That's a traditional multifamily..."
Commissioner Resnick continued, "...Yes, but I want to see something come to me, if you are asking
me for my feedback, if you brought up `The Villages', then I want to see something that is that good. I
know you only have six and a half (6 %2) acres, but give me something that is that quality."
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Mr. Flanagan next addressed the active senior lifestyle and some potential similar projects in Florida.
Mr. String added, "We will kind of regroup and make sure we have a more defined list of amenities and
activities, and things that keep the people here." Further, Mr. String noted, "We will do a much better
job, to really go study the ones that are currently running and kind of bring you back a list of exactly
what this project's going to have."
Deputy Mayor Pam Carroll commented on the many merits of the City's Senior Center and noted some
of the activities they offer.
Discussion.
With further comments, Deputy Mayor Carroll pointed out the various apartment projects going up or
built in the City and how many residents are not interested in more apartment type projects. Deputy
Mayor Carroll noted that she had served on the "ARTOBERFEST" event committee for ten (10) years
and mentioned a concern she had with this proposed project would be that it seemed to eliminate many
of the key locations the "ARTOBERFEST" event normally used. Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Carroll
commented on her concern with the location of this proposed project, high school students and the
proximity to Winter Springs High School.
Mr. String further commented that senior citizens did not want to live in apartments and would prefer to
live closer to their peers. With additional remarks, Mr. String commented, "This will be deed restricted,
runs with the land, has to be fifty -five (55) and over, senior active adult living."
Mr. Flanagan closed by thanking the City Commission and said, "We'll come back with more
specifics."
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney — Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager — Kevin L. Smith
No Report was given.
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REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk — Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces, MMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces Clerk referenced the St. Johns River Water Management District
Meetings being held in the Commission Chambers tomorrow and passed out the respective Agenda.
Mayor Lacey added that the Governing Board of the St. Johns River Water Management District was
scheduled to begin their meeting tomorrow at 11:00 a.m.
REPORTS
603. Office of Commissioner Seat Three/Deputy Mayor - The Honorable Pam Carroll
Deputy Mayor Carroll mentioned that the 10th Annual "ARTOBERFEST" event was scheduled for the
weekend of October 21St and 22nd and the City's Hometown Harvest event would be held on Saturday,
November 4th, 2017.
REPORTS
604. Office of Commissioner Seat Four - The Honorable Cade Resnick
Commissioner Resnick offered his thanks to his foreign exchange student for attending tonight's
meeting.
REPORTS
605. Office of Commissioner Seat Five - The Honorable Geoff Kendrick
Commissioner Kendrick offered his thanks to City Manager Kevin L. Smith, Mr. Fields, Mr. Chris
Caldwell, Director, Parks and Recreation Department, and Ms. Lena Rivera, P.E., D.WRE, Director,
Public Works and Utilities Departments for their assistance with a water main repair, a tree in
someone's yard, as well as a bee hive issue.
Commissioner Kendrick referenced the Leadership Seminole program Commissioner Cannon and he
were currently participating in and spoke highly of a recent visit to "Inspire of Central Florida" located
at 1095 Belle Avenue. Commissioner Kendrick mentioned he was very impressed and encouraged
others to check it out.
Deputy Mayor Carroll commented further on the predecessor to "Inspire of Central Florida ".
REPORTS
606. Office of the Mayor - The Honorable Charles Lacey
Mayor Lacey mentioned that Commissioner Kendrick had been selected by the Tri- County League of
Cities' Board for a Director position which should be ratified soon.
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607. Office of Commissioner Seat One - The Honorable Jean Hovey
Commissioner Hovey spoke of the "Girls in Government Day" recently held at South Seminole Middle
School in which she recently participated in, and commented on some of the merits of this program and
that she was glad to have been a part of it.
REPORTS
608. Office of Commissioner Seat Two - The Honorable Kevin Cannon
Commissioner Cannon thanked Mr. Fields and Manager Smith for their assistance with the re- paving of
the entrance to the Creeks Run community.
Next, Commissioner Cannon mentioned that trees had been cleaned out last Friday and thanked Ms.
Rivera and Staff.
Commissioner Cannon then asked that City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese or Staff or Manager Smith
send him "The actual FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) requirement for what needs to
be signed for a contractor which the City hires to go into a gated community when the gates are open."
Furthermore, Commissioner Cannon said, "The City has hired Waste Pro basically to do our solid waste
pick -up. Were any of the gated communities required to sign a Release and a Hold Harmless for Waste
Pro in case Waste Pro damages gates or damages anything coming in or out, to your knowledge ?"
Manager Smith spoke of an agreement that the Federal Emergency Management Agency requires for the
City to be eligible for reimbursement. Additional remarks continued.
Commissioner Cannon further asked for the referenced document. With more comments, Mayor Lacey
said such document should be sent to the entire City Commission. Deputy Mayor Carroll added, "Yes,
please."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mayor Lacey opened "Public Input ".
No one spoke.
Mayor Lacey closed "Public Input ".
Further brief comments ensued on the 10th Annual "ARTOBERFEST" event and the next Regular City
Commission Meeting scheduled for Monday, October 23, 2017.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacey adjourned the Regular Meeting at 6:29 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
A A LORFNZO- LDACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the October 23, 2017 City Commission Regular Meeting.