HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016 11 17 Board of Trustees Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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BOARD OF TRUSTEES
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 17, 2016
(RESCHEDULED FROM NOVEMBER 8, 2016)
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Thursday, November 17, 2016 (Rescheduled from Tuesday,
November 8, 2016) of the Board of Trustees was called to Order by Chairperson Frank
Mundo at 5:37 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall,
1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson Frank Mundo,present
Vice-Chairperson Robin Paris, present
Board Member Cindy Sosa, present
Board Member David Withee, present
Assistant to the City Clerk Antonia Della Donna, present
A moment of silence was held followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
No changes to the Agenda were made.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
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PUBLIC INPUT
Chairperson Mundo opened "Public Input".
Ms. Kelly Balagia, CPA, Management & Budget Analyst, Finance and Administrative
Services Department: discussed her time employed at the City and highlighted the
dedicated efforts of the Board of Trustees that she had witnessed. Ms. Balagia added, "I
just wanted to come in tonight and commend you folks for your service and for your
sacrifices on behalf of myself and all the employees and retirees in this Pension Plan."
Additional brief comments.
Chairperson Mundo thanked Ms. Balagia for her kind words.
Chairperson Mundo closed "Public Input".
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
300. Office Of The City Clerk
The Office of the City Clerk Is Requesting The Board of Trustees Consider And
Approve The Tuesday,August 9,2016 Board Of Trustees Regular Meeting Minutes.
"I MAKE MOTION THAT WE VOTE ON ACCEPTING THE LAST —
MEETING'S MINUTES." MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON MUNDO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER WITHEE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER WITHEE: AYE
CHAIRPERSON MUNDO: AYE
BOARD MEMBER SOSA: AYE
VICE-CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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REGULAR AGENDA
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500. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The
Board Of Trustees Receive From The Bogdahn Group The Fourth Quarter
Investment Return Report And To Enter Into Discussion.
Mr. Dave West, Senior Consultant, The Bogdahn Group, 4901 Vineland Road, Suite 600,
Orlando, Florida: expressed his pleasure with the results of the last quarter and noted, "A
lot of it due to the hard work that the Board's been doing."
Before beginning his presentation of the Fourth Quarter Investment Return Report, Mr.
West addressed an administrative update regarding The Bogdahn Group. Mr. West
indicated that The Bogdahn Group would be undergoing a rebranding process in the near
future. Comments followed regarding the ownership structure and the purpose of the
rebranding.
Next, Mr. West discussed changes post-election and how it related to the portfolio. On
Page 18, Mr. West noted that the fund for the fiscal year was up 10.75% net of all of the
City's investment management fees and discussed related three (3), five (5), and ten (10)
year numbers. Further comments on peer group rankings and asset allocation ensued.
Mr. West continued to highlight points within the Fourth Quarter Investment Return
Report and spoke of domestic and international equity allocation, bond funds, the effects
of rapid appreciation, actuarial impact, applied smoothing methods, additional asset
allocations and their related bench marks, and cash flows.
Board Member David Withee inquired as to how many people were drawing a Pension.
Mr. Larry Wilson, A.S.A., Senior Consultant and Actuary, Gabriel, Roeder & Smith
Company (GRS), One East Broward Boulevard, Suite 505, Fort Lauderdale, Florida:
indicated, "As of about 10/01/[20]15, we had ninety-three (93) people drawing
Pensions."
Continuing, Mr. West pointed out some useful information on Page 24 and remarked
about the related charts and trends. Mr. West also referenced the fee structure outlined
on Page 43.
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❖❖ AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. ❖❖
REGULAR AGENDA
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504. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The
Board Of Trustees Receive Information From The Bogdahn Group And Discuss
Global Bond Investment Strategies.
Referencing the Templeton Global Bond Fund, Mr. West stated, "I'd like to recommend
that we hang on to this strategy and revisit what has transpired post-election when we
take the wrap up — for the quarter we're currently in. Now remembering that Templeton
Global Bond Fund was put in place because we wanted a diversifying agent here, we
wanted a bond manager or a bond strategy, if you will, that was not impacted by changes
in interest rates, in the event at some time that interest rates happen to go back up."
Further, Mr. West commented on the fund's insensitivity to interest rates and recapped
the last quarter referring to bond prices, total returns, interest rates, and currency. Mr.
West noted, "So, combined with interest rates going up, no sensitivity in this fund, and a
resumption of dollar strength, this fund has almost retraced, giving a positive return in
October and November, the underperformance to the benchmark that happened during a
period in the cycle where - it was not favorable for that strategy on a relative basis."
Comments followed.
Chairperson Mundo noted that the fund was publicly traded and inquired what progress it
has made since the National Election. Mr. West indicated, "The returns have been well
north of four percent (4%) positive and noted that number was from October/November,
not particularly November 8, 2016. Mr. West then spoke of interest rates and the strength
of the dollar.
On a related note, Mr. Mundo asked, "What is the economic scenario under which this
fund out performs its benchmark. And then the other question being is, `What is the
benchmark in terms of its expectations'?" Mr. West replied, "In a rising rate
environment, this fund will outperform number one, in the secondary factor..."
Chairperson Mundo asked, "...Will it outperform in an absolute sense or it just goes
down less..." Mr. West continued, "...it will outperform absolute. So, the absolute
return can potentially be positive whereas in a rising interest rate, the absolute return for
the benchmark which is the— Citigroup World Government Bond Index, that benchmark
will be potentially negative in a rising interest rate environment."
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Much discussion followed on the behavior of the Templeton Global Bond Fund in
regards to a coupon advantage, the strength of the dollar, interest rates, and the United
States economy. Mr. West noted, "So, we could be turning the page — could be into the
environment that's constructive for this fund which is why it was put in there in the first
place."
Board Member Withee commented on the strength of the dollar and pointed out, "So, if
this thrives in a strong dollar environment, I may be not connecting the dots here as to
why it underperforms so badly, year-to-date." Chairperson Mundo remarked briefly on
the fund's poor history. Mr. West responded, "The issue is it hasn't been a straight line.
Appreciation, right? We had two (2) quarters in particular where the dollar was hit pretty
badly." Mr. West then referenced Pages 34 and 35 and commented further touching on
various exposures; discussion ensued on the fund's performance and behavior and
various other investments.
Mr. West offered various alternatives and stated, "The other alternative which is
becoming increasingly and potentially attractive is actually the TIPS (Treasury Inflation
Protected Securities) Portfolio, right? Because the TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected
Securities) adjusts with the CPI (Consumer Price Index) so as inflation goes up, your
effective coupon, you know, gets adjusted upward to the resulting impact on the price of
the bond is really muted."
Much discussion ensued on bonds, TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities),
stability from U.S. Treasuries, hedge funds and their associated fees, a Global Tactical
Asset Allocation (GTAA) Strategy, liquidity issues, and B1ackRock Funds.
Chairperson Mundo mentioned the Senior Loan Fund. Mr. West stated, "That is a private
equity we can only — make a capital commitment when they're out raising money. So,
that particular fund was closed when we went into it." Further comments followed on the
timing of certain funds availability.
Much discussion followed on the selection of an alternative investment and Mr. West
noted, "I would be recommending a slow conversion into the standard benchmark TIPS
(Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) Portfolio." Further discussion followed on post-
election economics, monetary and fiscal policies, and corporate tax reform.
Referring to Mr. West's recommendation, Board Member Withee inquired, "Would the
recommendation be to move all of it in there? Or just split it between two (2) strategies?"
Mr. West explained, "The recommendation would be to move it all, and that would move
our halfway in TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) —up to our target weight in
TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities)." Brief discussion followed and
Chairperson Mundo expressed his agreement to increase TIPS (Treasury Inflation
Protected Securities).
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"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SELL TEMPLETON AND
THAT WE TAKE THE PROCEEDS AND PUT IT INTO TIPS (TREASURY
INFLATION PROTECTED SECURITIES)." MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON
MUNDO. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER WITHEE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE-CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
BOARD MEMBER WITHEE: AYE
BOARD MEMBER SOSA: AYE
CHAIRPERSON MUNDO: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion followed on Crescent Direct Lending and related capital flow. Mr. West
outlined the procedure related to the transfer of funds from the Templeton Global Bond
Fund to TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities).
Board Member Withee left the Meeting at 6:55 pm.
REGULAR
501. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The
Board Of Trustees Receive From Gabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company The 2015
Actuarial Valuation Report And To Enter Into Discussion.
Mr. Larry Wilson, A.S.A., Senior Consultant and Actuary, Gabriel, Roeder & Smith
Company (GRS), One East Broward Boulevard, Suite 505, Fort Lauderdale, Florida:
gave a brief overview of Gabriel, Roeder & Smith Company and noted their offices
around the country.
Continuing, Mr. Wilson introduced the 2015 Actuarial Valuation Report and discussed
various costs, contributions, funding requirements, the vested benefit security ratio,
actuarial gains, smoothed investment returns and values of assets, and Government
Accounting Standards. Mr. Wilson noted, "So, again measured on a market value basis,
for accounting purposes 9/30/[20']15, we're seventy-three point four two percent
(73.42%) funded." Brief comments.
Mr. Wilson addressed accounting standards and continued to review the 2015 Actuarial
Valuation Report and noted its compliance with the requirements and intent of Part VII,
Chapter 112,Florida Statutes.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE ACCEPT THE DEFINED BEENFIT PLAN
ACTUARIAL VALUATION AS OF OCTOBER 120'115.91) MOTION BY
CHAIRPERSON MUNDO. SECONDED BY VICE-CHAIRPERSON PARIS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER SOSA: AYE
VICE-CHAIRPERSON PARIS: AYE
CHAIRPERSON MUNDO: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Additional remarks related to mortality rates in relation to values utilized by the Florida
Retirement System followed.
REGULAR
502. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The
Board Of Trustees Receive From Gabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company The 2015
Compliance Report Per Chapter 112.664, Florida Statutes, And To Enter Into
Discussion.
Mr. Wilson presented the Agenda Item and gave an overview of requirements dictated by
Florida Statutes in reference to the 2015 Compliance Report. Furthermore, Mr. Wilson
spoke of funding and statutory mortality assumptions based on six percent (6%) and ten
percent (10%) investment rate of return assumptions. Mr. Wilson continued to discuss
various financial figures found in the 2015 Compliance Report related to their status of
funding.
REGULAR
503. Finance And Administration Services Department
The Finance And Administrative Services Department Is Requesting That The
Board Of Trustees Receive Information And Discuss Investment Rate Of Return
Assumptions.
After presenting the Agenda Item, Mr. Wilson stated, "We were asked to take a look at—
investment return, `What if we changed our return from eight percent (8%) to seven and
three quarters (7.75%), everything else kept the sameT And then, `What if we went to
seven and a half percent (7.5%) assumed return'?" Mr. Wilson noted that many Pension
Plans across the State of Florida are reducing their assumed rates of return.
Comments followed on the Florida Retirement System, investment returns, mortality, and
financial reports.
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600. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
PUBLIC INPUT
Chairperson Mundo opened "Public Input".
No one spoke.
Chairperson Mundo closed "Public Input".
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Mundo adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:37 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
AN i ONIA DELLA DONNA
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were Approved at the February 15,2017 Board of Trustees Regular Meeting.