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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004 11 22 Public Hearings 401 COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM 401 Consent Informational Public Hearing X Regular November 22, 2004 Meeting MGR.I--/DEPT I~ Authorization REQUEST: The Community Development Department requests the City Commission hold a Public Hearing for aesthetic review of the Barclay Woods town house units. PURPOSE: To ensure new town home development at the eastern gateway to our City confom1s to the City's Aesthetic Review Standards set forth in Ordinance No. 2003-43. Specifically, at its October 25,2004, meeting, the City Commission voted to approve the aesthetic review of the subdivision, but that the applicant bring architectural renderings of the SR 434 side of the 2 buildings that abut SR 434. At the November 8, 2004, meeting, the City Commission asked the applicant to bring back architectural renderings showing French rear doors (rather than sliding glass doors), no screen enclosure, and landscaping buffer. APPLICABLE LAW AND PUBLIC POLICY: Ordinance 2003-43, Aesthetic Review Standards, City of Winter Springs (attached) CHRONOLOGY: Jan. 26, 2004 City Commission adopted Ordinance 2003-43, establishing minimum community appearance and aesthetic review. June 14,2004 City Commission voted to approve final engineering/site plan. Oct. 25,2004 City Commission approved the aesthetic review of Barclay Woods, subject to approval ofSR 434 side of the 2 buildings abutting that ROW. CONSIDERATIONS: The site work has been in progress and the builder submitted master plans for the buildings. Building Division staff have provided detailed comments to the builder and awaits revisions. The @) November 22,2004 PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 401 Page 2 of 5 sanitary sewer has been completed and taps into both the force and water mains have been scheduled for November 1. The engineer of record has recently proposed changes in the fire protection system, which are currently being reviewed by staff. At its regularly scheduled meeting of October 25, 2004, the City Commission approved the aesthetic review of Barclay Woods, subject to approval of the rear (SR 434 side) elevations of the buildings that back up to SR 434. The applicant was directed to provide renderings of the rear of these buildings, first to the City Manager and, after his review and approval, to the City Commission. At the November 8, 2004 meeting the City Commission asked the applicant to bring back architectural renderings showing French rear doors (rather than sliding glass doors), no screen enclosure, and landscaping buffer. The plans should depict what the buildings will look like without screen enclosures and with landscaping and fencing. RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the City Commission determine whether or not the rear elevation of the buildings abutting SR 434 (front faces the internal street) is acceptable. ATTACHMENTS: A. November 8, 2004, "Mini-Minutes" COMMISSION ACTION: November 22, 2004 PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 401 Page 3 of 5 ATTACHMENT A City Commission- November 8, 2004, "Mini-Minutes" PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 400. Community Development Department Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Aesthetic Review Of The Barclay Woods Town House Units. Commissioner McGinnis suggested that "When you do your Covenants, Restrictions, and Conditions, that you would consider a Covenant that would require garage doors to be kept shut when they are not in use." Tape lISide B Mr. John Reny, 641 North Maitland Avenue, Maitland, Florida: stated, "Sure, absolutely, we are formulating those." Discussion ensued on renderings for the back elevations of a couple of buildings being discussed, and Commissioner Blake said, "You are referring to a wall. As I recall, the drawing I have seen, didn't actually have a wall." Mr. Reny stated, "I apologize. It has columns and a fence and landscaping." Discussion. Tape I/Side B With further discussion, Commissioner Blake suggested, "Even ifmaybe there is some way to - wall in, to some extent, each of the back patio areas for each of these properties. That might go a long way to actually provide some screening." Additionally, Commissioner Blake said, "We really need something that is more solid and opaque here; maybe the answer is changing the wall. Changing it from being that pillar with open fencing- to something that has brick or stone in it, or is more opaque." Manager McLemore said, "What appears to be offensive even to me, is again the glass doors on the back. My question would be, can that be reconfigured to look more like the [Tont entrance to the building, rather than these wide glass doors; to make it look like a front porch, rather than a back porch?" Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I share Commissioner Blake's concern. I think a wall would be one solution." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller suggested, "I am referring to lattice on the screen enclosures, that way, whatever they have got inside, you really can't see it when you drive by." Mr. Reny said, "Can I bring you back details on that screen enclosure?" Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would go along with a good screen enclosure that you can't see into it real easily, like maybe with lattice facing the street, or even a lattice wall that has to be put so far from the screen." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller noted, "This is not in place ofthe brick wall I am referring to, but this would November 22, 2004 PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 401 Page 4 of 5 ATTACHMENT A City Commission- November 8, 2004, "Mini-Minutes", cont'd be something where the people driving by, would not be able to see the screen enclosure, because there is some kind of a privacy wal1." With further discussion, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I do not like a wall- we are becoming a community of walls and gates." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Lindsey Hollow, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested flipping the buildings so the front ofthese buildings face State Road 434. Mr. Anthony Marasco, 1311 Deer Run Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: thought a berm might help this particular dilemma. Mr. Byron Giltz I DOl Troon Trace, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested a wall was necessary; thought that a screen enclosure around the patio should be mandatory; and preferred French doors in lieu of screen doors. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Manager McLemore noted, "Ifthese were French doors in the back, it would totally give you another look. The second thing would be ifthere was some type of - bay window type concept, would give you a totally different look. But the problem is not solvable as long as you have sliding glass doors, in my opinion." Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore spoke of problems with fences and suggested that "You really need to just go ahead and put all the screens on now." Mr. Reny advised the City Commission, "French doors, I could certainly change it to French doors. Ifthat is more appealing, I can change those to French doors, that is a non-issue for me." Speaking further, Mr. Reny noted the fence material as, "There is a PVC fence which we have real good luck with, that separates the patios and that's what that back screen material would be. Also, it is maintenance free." Mr. Reny added, "My fence around - that would be the west side - that is aluminum - and in my front architecture. I am talking about just the fence - the little drawing that I drew, behind the patios." Deputy Mayor Miller suggested, "If you put the French doors in, just mandate on that building, those two (2) buildings facing the street, there will be no screen enclosures." Mr. Reny said, "I guess I could do that in my Covenants. I would have to check with our Attorney who is drawing them; if that is the case, I would do that." Manager McLemore noted, "That would be a good solution." November 22, 2004 PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 401 Page 5 of 5 ATTACHMENT A City Commission- November 8,2004, "Mini-Minutes", cont'd With further discussion on the presented renderings, Commissioner Blake suggested, "See how you have - the roof area coming out over the door entryway, going in - if something like that could exist on a French door along the back side - I think that would provide kind of a portico - an architectural element that makes it look other than what we are seeing currently." Manager McLemore added, "Some detailing." Mayor Bush next said, "1 think the Commission has made their thoughts and wishes clear here and - just needs time now to work with the [City] Manager and bring it back again." Commissioner Blake added, "As the Mayor said, everybody is on board with this. 1 think we have heard back from the - Manager to take the Commission's comments into consideration and bring back the right solution." Manager McLemore asked, "Do you want us to come back to you with it?" Commissioner Blake said, "Please." Deputy Mayor Miller said, "1 do." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Yes." Mr. Reny then brought up that "1 have an Oviedo address and a City of Winter Springs property." Mayor Bush said, "Talk to the Postmaster." Commissioner Blake added, "The Postmaster is the one that controls that." Mr. Reny then said, "1 will make an appointment next week with you." Then, Mr. Reny explained, "1 am going to add French doors, and I am going to work on some detail above those French doors on those three (3) center units." Mayor Bush added, "1 think showing your landscaping in more detail would be helpful too." Mr. Reny added, "Okay. I'll try to get my landscaping overlaid onto my plans." -............