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Home My WebLink About2003 08 25 Consent C Unapproved Minutes from August 11, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM C Consent X Informational Public Hearings Regular August 25.2003 Regular Meeting Mgr, 1 Dept. Authorization CONSENT C. Office Of The City Clerk Approval Of The August II, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes, CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST ll, 2003 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, August ll, 2003 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F, Bush at 6:30 p,m, in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, ll26 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708), Mayor John F, Bush, present Deputy Mayor Robert S, Miller, present Commissioner Michael S, Blake, present Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner David W, McLeod, arrived 6:35 p,m, City Manager Ronald W, McLemore, absent Kip Lockcuff, Public WorksfUtility Department Director, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present A moment of silence was held, Next, the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Bush, Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Under the Consent Agenda, Item 'B' has been pulled," AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 1. A. Office Of The Mayor Presentation Of A Proclamation In Honor Of Our "Military Hero's." Mayor Bush read a Proclamation in honor of our Country's "Military Hero's," PUBLIC INPUT Ms. Joan Gudenkauf, 155 West State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke briefly in favor of the Agenda Item, Regular "B," dealing with a request for a Variance, Mr, Roy Berglund, 1137 Trotwood Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a need for temporary signage. ~ ;--~ ~.~ '81 ~~-?) ~ 5=1 a;:,;=~ cE~~ ~ .,.......,:;--.:'J rP~~l [&?S2J ~ /' .--" / ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11, 2003 PAGE 2 OF 26 Mayor Bush suggested Mr, Berglund wait to hear from Staff. Mr, Richard Grogan, I North Fairfax Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: complimented the City Commission on a very nice Advisory Board and Committee Appreciation Dinner, Mayor Bush added, "Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces], you and the rest of the Staff did a great job, and so did the Winter Springs Golf Club people, nice job as well, Very nice event!" Commissioner Edward Martinez, Ir. also added, "Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] - congratulations again to your Staff." . --eONSENI CONSENT 2. A. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Apply For A Recreational Development Assistance Program Grant For Continued Central Winds Park Improvements And Authorize The City Manager To Apply For This Grant On Behalf Of The City Of Winter Springs. CONSENT 3. B. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The Scottish American Society Of Central Florida, Inc. As stated earlier in the Meeting under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush explained that "Consent Agenda Item 'B' has been pulled." CONSENT 4. C. Finance Department Requesting A Supplemental Appropriation Of $39,400.00 From The Following Fund Balances For Unanticipated Fuel Costs: General Fund ($25,000.00), Medical Transport Fund ($1,600.00), Water And Sewer Fund ($10,200.00), And Stormwater Fund ($2,600.00). With discussion, Commissioner Martinez suggested this information could have come up at the Budget Workshops, ;i~ ~..,.. ~ ~~ ~~ ~~ !!2 .:<. 'F.:;'I ~~] ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11.2003 PAGE 3 OF 26 CONSENT 5. D. Community Development Department Recommends Approval Of The Proposed Marketing Sign For The Tuskawilla Office Park (TOP), Subject To Conditions. Commissioner Michael S, Blake inquired about the placement of the proposed signage and asked, "Why wasn't it presented to us drawn correctly?" Discussion, CONSENT 6. E. Public Works Department Requesting Supplemental Appropriation For The Installation Of Roadway Underdrains On Northern Way. CONSENT 7. F. Police Department Requesting The Commission To Give Approval For The City Manager And Police Chief To Renew School Resource Officers Inter-Agency Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And Seminole County School Board. CONSENT 8. G. Office Of The City Manager Requesting That The City Commission Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $7,500.00 From The General Fund To Line Code 1910-63000 (General Services - City'Hall Division - Improvements) To Cover Related Expenses, As Part Of An Ongoing Customer Service Effort To Make The Lobby More Customer Friendly. CONSENT 9. H. Office Of The City Cle.'k Approval Of The July 28, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. "MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. COMMISSIONER BLAKE SPOKE OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "D" AND SAID, "THE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A MAXIMUM INTERNAL ANGLE OF THIRTY (30) DEGREES." SECONDED. DISCUSSION. s ~ ~ ~p.~ "'l~"""~' .I;\"~IH""~, cr_,.,..,,~ ,~:;'~ ~'"~ i:l'&!JT:C~ ~.,-~".'. .r_. , , It=-~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 4 OF 26 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. INFORMA TIONAL INFORMATIONAL 10. A. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. Discussion, INFORMATIONAL 11. B. Not Used. INFORMATIONAL 12. C. Information Services Department Wishes To Update The Commission On The Status Of The I.T. [Information Technology] Plan Created In FY 2002. INFORMATIONAL 13. D. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Annual Holiday Parade. INFORMATIONAL 14. E. Public Works Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement Projects. Regarding the Moss Road Turn Lane, Deputy Mayor Robert S, Miller said to Mr, Kip Lockcuff, Public WorkslUtility Department Director - "You will come back with other information?" Mr. Lockcuff agreed, S It~~~ ~1~~2J r~t~ L~r:',~ p,j.'.""'"'~ CJ:i.~~ ~~ ~"!!~ ~ ~:~ J CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 5 OF 26 Deputy Mayor Miller then stated, "On the Cross Seminole Trail, whoever is monitoring that situation, I would like to see an Informational Item on when they let the Bids for that, when the Trail is going to be done," Next, Deputy Mayor Miller spoke about construction in the Town Center, and when it could take place in and around the eagle nest. Commissioner David W. McLeod said, "We can check that through Fish, Game, and Wildlife," INFORMATIONAL 15. F. Parks And Recreation Department Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Land And Water Conservation Fund Grant Regarding Acquisition Of The Wincey Property. INFORMATIONAL 16. G. Information Services Department Wishes To Furnish The Commission 'Vith Web Site Statistics For Informational Purposes As Requested By The Commission In A Budget Workshop. "MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS PUBLIC HEARINGS 17. A. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second And Final Reading Of Ordinance 2003-19 To Adopt A Small Scale FLUM [Future Land Use Map] Amendment By Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation From Seminole County "Low Density Residential" To Winter Springs "Town Center" For The Properties Located At 1204,1206,1208, And 1210 Orange Avenue. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only, ~~ ~. "2, ~ l'I'Iz=~=:1 2i~ il~ ~ t::!!~ ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 6 OF 26 Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke, The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed, Ms, Eloise Salhstom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development Department briefly addressed the City Commission, "I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2003-19." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 18. B. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2003-20 To Change The Zoning Map From Seminole County "R-1" To Winter Springs "Town Center" For The Properties Located At 1204,1206,1208, And 1210 Orange Avenue. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2003-20 by "Title" only, Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke, The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed, Ms, Salhstrom was available for any questions from the City Commission, "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. Q ~ ~ r3R0n.'"ftl'lf.l Qz..;(.) ~~ <?'~ ..-Y;~ ~q ~.21 ~~-'~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11, 2003 PAGE 7 OF 26 VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 19. C. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2003-08 To Adopt A Small Scale FLUM [Future Land Use Map]Amendment By Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation Of A 2.02 Acre Parcel, Located At 1281 Natures Way, From "Medium Residential" (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). "MOTION TO READ BY TITLE ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2003-08 by "Title" only, Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, Ms, Sam Armiger, 1281 Natures Way, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City Commission and asked that something in writing be provided about "Grandfathering me in with my horses - what it is going to do to my taxes," Ms, Armiger also asked for the City's help in restoring the road, Discussion, Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" and commented on the current discussion in relation to the Land Use. Further discussion, ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~.0 ~~;2) ~ 00 Cs.~~~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 8 OF 26 Tape l/Side B Discussion ensued on the maintenance of the road, Commissioner McLeod said, "I think we ought to put them on notice, in writing, that we expect this road to be maintained for the people." Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod stated, "I never received the - consensus here to direct Staff, and the City Attorney to put the Contractor on notice to maintain this road." Commissioner Martinez added, "The City Attorney agreed to that." Mayor Bush asked the City Commission, "Does this Commission agree with Commissioner McLeod?" Commissioner Sally McGinnis said, "Yes," With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized, "The entire Commission agrees," Ms, Armiger then inquired, "Can I be copied on that letter?" Mayor Bush stated, "You can certainly get a copy of that." Discussion. With further discussion on the grandfathering issues, Commissioner McLeod stated, "I think we need to direct that again that the City Manager come back with a letter, to be put into the record - as the survey straightens out, that those animal uses are still allowed, as long as they both own the property." Mayor Bush said to Ms, Armiger, "What. you would like is your meeting with the Manager, and his agreement to be put in writing - so you will know what you two agreed to and the Commission will know what you all agreed to," Mayor Bush then said, "When Mr. McLemore returns - Commissioner McLeod is saying that - he needs to address everyone of the issues that she has brought up and give an answer in writing to it, and then the Commission can look at it." Commissioner McLeod added, "That is exactly what the Commission had directed the City Manager to - look at grandfathering this and put it in writing to these folks, and then if at a later date, we come .along and change the law, they are still grandfathered in," Furthermore, Mayor Bush said, "I think the Commission is agreeing with you on this - we need to know what you and the Manager have discussed and what has been agreed upon and it needs to be in writing so that we can see it and you all can have a copy of it." Next, Mayor Bush said, "Does the Commission have any objection that we will make sure this is done before the Second Reading?" There were no objections from the City Commission. Ms, Susan Rodenburg, 1297 Natures Way, Winter Springs, Florida: gave photographs of the area in question to Mr. Lockcuff. Ms, Rodenburg noted that she also had some surveys and spoke against the Zoning, and how "It might impact her way of life should Ms, Anniger ever sell her property on Nature's Way and move," ~.....~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ , ;; G!:~" .. ~ ~ ~ ~::3J CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 9 OF 26 Mr, David Moore, 1249 Natures Way, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of his concern with logging trucks that drive very fast on this road, and his concern with children riding bikes in this same area. Mr. Moore also spoke in support of Ms, Armiger, Mr, Wayne Rodenburg, 1297 Natures Way, Winter Springs, Florida: also spoke about the excessive speed of vehicles on this roadway, With further discussion on speed enforcement, Mayor Bush summarized the discussion and said that Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr will handle it. The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed, Further discussion. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION' THAT WE MOVE THIS TO A SECOND READING SUBECT TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO SET A DATE - THE ADVERTISEMENT IS READY TO GO AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK WHEN IT IS READY," MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMISSIONER McLEOD, DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 20. D. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2003-09 To Rezone A 2.02 Acre Parcel, Located At 1281 Natures Way, From (County) "A-I" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center District." Mayor Bush asked for a Motion to read by "Title" only, "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMl\lISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED. DISCUSSION, S lS".'7~::l ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ t~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 10 OF 26 VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2003-09 by "Title" only, Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke. The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION ON THIS ONE AS THE PREVIOUS ONE - MOVE TO A SECOND READING CONCURRENT WITH THE LAND USE AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO THE SAME AGREEMENT OUTLINING THE SAME ISSUES BETWEEN THE MANAGER AND THE PROPERTY O'VNER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED, PUBLIC HEARINGS 21. E. Office Of The City Manager/Office Of The City Attorney Present To The City Commission For Second And Final Reading Ordinance Number 2003-01 That Would Regulate Open Alcoholic Beverage Containers In Public Places, Adopt Definitions And Provide A General Penalty Provision For Violations Of Chapter 3 Of The City Code. City Attomey Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only, """';.~ ~~' ..'I~'lIrj~ ~~. '~~ .. ,~ f:: ~,'-~~ ;, ,'CJ::~ \"";~ , . ~.;z;:1 '. .~ , .' '~ " ;:~ rr<.~Jr':CJ ~ , ."::'51 Llr~2J ~~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 11 OF26 Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke. The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2003-01." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 22. F. Office Of The City Manager/Office Of The City Attorney Request That The City Commission Adopt On Second And Final Reading Ordinance Number 2003-26, Amending Section 9-281. Of The Winter Springs Code To Extend The Compliance Date For Dumpster Screening To March 1,2004. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke, The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed, Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2003-26 by "Title" only, Mayor Bush again opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke, This "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was then closed. f r,:.' ~ ,t\fti ~' ,.~ ~ :; ~". . ", .f.~ '" '" "'J. ,.- .._, .... I. " \ ~ ., \,~,.<c.,;~ I,..." -~ ~:<-'-5i :.",~~;J) Ib.~-"".,,.,.,q;] ~ ~, .~ :;J CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 12 OF 26 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2003-26." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 23. G. Office Of The City Attorney Proposes To The City Commission For Second And Final Reading Ordinance Number 2003-30, Adopting A Code Provision That Permits The City To Recover Attorneys' Fees And Costs In Any Legal Proceeding Brought By The City To Enforce The City Code In Which The City Prevails. City Attomey Anthony A. Garganese read Ordinance 2003-30 by "Title" only, Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item, No one spoke. The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed. "I WOULD BE MORE THAT HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE" ORDINANCE 2003-30, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. ~...a=G m~ ~\?.---a Q~':. 't' 1" ,,~ i{;;"~ ~"~t~ I:ir~ ~"~~ i(;~l~.'. 1::' fr ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 13 OF 26 REGULAR REGULAR 24. A. Community Development Department Recommends The City Commission Hear A Request By Attorney Bruce Duncan, Agent For AVA-Anthony And/Or Kamil Gowni AndlOr Phelepateer LLC, For A Variance From Section 20-418, Of The City Code Of Ordinances (Ordinance Number 2001-13), To Allow A Gasoline Station To Be Constructed On A Site Within 350 Feet Of Another Existing Gasoline Station Site Or Within 350 Feet Of Residential Property. Commissioner Martinez stated, "I would like to state for the record that yesterday afternoon, I received a call from Mr. Kamil Gowni regarding this Agenda Item," Commissioner Blake said, "About a month ago, Mr, Gowni contacted me and asked for an appointment, and came to my office and we sat and spoke for a few minutes," Deputy Mayor Miller added, "Mr. Gowni called me yesterday," Commissioner McGinnis said, "I talked to him to," Commissioner McLeod stated, "I would like to disclose that I had a conversation with him," Mr, John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department reviewed this Agenda Item with the City Commission, Discussion, Mr, Bruce Duncan, Esquire, Potter Clement Lowry & Duncan, 308 East 5th Avenue, Mount Dora, Florida: addressed the City Commission, Commissioner Blake stated "Point of Order" and spoke about Variance criteria, Mr, Duncan spoke on the proposed Variance. Tape 2/Side A With discussion, Mr, Duncan stated, "The gasoline storage tanks as I said are already in the ground. The lines are run for the future pumps that we are requesting permission to receive the Variance to finish the construction on," Furthermore, Mr, Duncan added, "What we are requesting here tonight is a 140 foot Variance from the 350 foot requirement from the Cumberland Farms which is the existing gasoline station that is causing us the brunt of the problems here. We are 210 f~et away from property corner to property comer. We went out there and we took a measurement and we are actually 450 plus or minus a few feet, from the existing pumps at the Cumberland Farms to where these pumps will be located on this particular site, ~ \l>__~ 5'~'iJElI ~~~ m-"",~"" e",,~''!iI ~~i~ ;f~~;~e l~ I~"",.~ :f",,.;:lozD '. :,;:;r.. :?>~ .~.. . \~t(~4':n' .,,~~~ ~:i3J ~,.'v CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 14 OF 26 The Ordinance does require a property line to property line so it is a 210 foot buffer between the - existing Cumberland Farms and this proposed site, In between the Cumberland FarnlS and where we proposed to build this gasoline convenience store, there will be another commercial construction site that will be developed at a future date, There is a second lot that exists between the Cumberland Farms and where we are actually trying to - or proposing to construct this particular facility, So what we are asking for is the minimum required to allow the development of this site," Mr, Duncan continued, "The granting of the Variance will not be injurious to the neighborhood and will be in harmony with the Code, We believe the station, as we have proposed it, will be a great addition to the City of Winter Springs, A couple of other conceptuals that we have had prepared by our Engineers - this will give you an idea of what the site will look like, this will give you an idea of the entryway - the pumps, and how the pumps will be constructed and how they will be located on the site, We do not believe that it will be injurious to the neighborhood, There will be brick walls that will be constructed along the backside of the property - a six foot (6') high brick wall that will provide a buffer between the Mobile Home Park, or Manufactured Home Park that exists behind this particular site, We have agreed through the Development Site Plan to eliminate off-site lighting problems by providing bucket lighting and directional lighting. As I am sure you are aware there are some pretty nice advancements as far as lighting is concerned, and we are going to ensure that that lighting stays on-site, that there will be a minimal off-site impact. 1 believe the Ordinance actually puts a minimum percentage of off-site lighting that would be permitted by the design and construction of this particular facility, We do not believe that it will have an injurious impact on the neighborhood, This property is zoned Commercial. Whatever goes on this site will be commercial development and what we are proposing we think is as good looking, as aesthetically pleasing a convenience store/gasoline station, as you are ever going to see, We have agreed to these improvements and advancements in an attempt to try to satisfy the Staff, and in an attempt to try to obviously incur you to enter into - or grant us the Variance," Next, Mr. Duncan pointed out that "1 think we have addressed the aesthetics concern for this gas station and I can assure you the investment that my client is making in this particular corner will not result in his abandonment - probably in my lifetime, This is a substantial investment in what he has already put into it and what he has agreed to put into it as a result of the improvements and the continual development of this site, The other issue that they cite is safety in that Ordinance - too many pumps too close together. As I have pointed out, these pumps are actually going to be about 450 feet away from each other so the location of these pumps, the pumps themselves actually exceeds that which was addressed in that particular Ordinance," ~ .,'...~~ ~.:':....~ "r,~ ~;.;.~~ ,,'..:..i~ .b~~~ '1. \~ :'l'd' ~..._~ "".._~;:..,::,.."'1 t'r'~ '~~:,,~ &/;;-;,:,.:<] ~~ 'i ;e:=:::(l '\~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 15 OF 26 Commissioner Blake said to Mr. Duncan, "You talked about an item - criteria number three (3) - the granting of the Variance will not differ - any special privilege that is denied by the Chapter, to other lands, buildings, and structures in the same Zoning District - and you say that you passed that test because this property had a permit issued at one point in time that was in existence and the property owner you said had a right to develop at that point in time this use, and then we created the Ordinance in between the two (2) pel111it applications, Once that permit lapses you no longer had any rights at that point in time without going through the process again - how would this be different if not only did the permit lapse, and I do not hear any argument that the permit did in fact not lapse and that you did initiate, or the partnership did initiate a new permit process, and in between something else changed, and laws change all the time and when new things happen they have to comply with the new laws, with cUlTently existing laws, not laws as they once were or laws that did not exist previously, How do you reconcile this difference?" Mr, Duncan responded, "I think that the issue is are you conferring a special privilege upon my client that someone else in that particular Zoning District, or category, or neighborhood would not be able to enjoy. My argument is that you are not because anyone else has the opportunity to go through that process as well, just as we have and to seek approval for the development." Regarding Zoning, Mr. Duncan stated, "The existing Zoning permits a gas station at that site, The Ordinance that prohibits the location within 350 feet is another matter. The existing Zoning - my Client has made the. business decision that a convenience store, gas station, 'Starbucks' Coffee Shop, is the highest and best use for that particular site, Certainly anyone could come in here and argue that that site he could make more money for it as a bank or as a dry cleaning store but my client has made the business decision that that is the highest and best use for the property that he owns," Additionally, Mr. Duncan said, "We have imposed upon ourselves certain design criteria that will limit or negate those impacts that mayor may not be there, Certainly one of the issues that you must address is will it have a negative impact on the surrounding property values. I do not believe that there has been any evidence or testimony that it will have a negative impact on the sunounding property values. But the design criteria that we have agreed to would provide for a substantial - not only a brick wall but there will be landscaping on both sides of the brick wall. The lighting issues will be addressed regarding the added expense providing the bucket lighting and directional lighting, Those issues were designed to negate the impact on the surrounding property owners," Discussion. es=;@ ~~;~ ;!j""~'''',r.I''.r-1 ",'P-'~ ~d ~~ ~~ :;~'(m:m~ ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11, 2003 PAGE 16 OF 26 Mr, Duncan stated, "I would like to submit to you two (2) separate Petitions signed by about fifty (50) or fifty-two (52) residents of Winter Springs that are in support of this particular request for a Variance, and I will submit those to the Council at this time," Discussion, Mr, Connie Mack Crawley, 206 El Camino Real Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President, Mr. Crawley spoke on behalf of Hacienda Village and voiced concerns with excessive noise, lighting, and gasoline odors, Mr, G.H Massey III, 31142 Cove Road, Taveres, Florida: as the Vice President of Medallion Convenience Stores, Inc. Mr. Massey addressed the City Commission on his interests on this issue, Discussion ensued on current trends in the gasoline industry, "I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE VARIANCE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO APPROVE THE VARIANCE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS, DISCUSSION, Tape 2/Side B WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION, ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "WHEN WE WERE DEALING 'VITH THE VESTED RIGHTS ISSUE, I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER AND I PREPARED A VERY EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT "lOULD IMPOSE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF GASOLINE STATIONS, SO IT WAS IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORIIOOD, AND THAT CERTAIN SAFEGUARDS WERE IMPLEMENTED." ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "IF YOU DO GRANT THIS VARIANCE, YOU MAY WANT TO REQUIRE US TO BRING BACK THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH OBVIOUSLY ANY CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY SO THAT YOU CAN IMPOSE THOSE SAFEGUARDS," ~ ~ ~~~ ~~ t!:i~~ (iJE'~ '-:;~.'".. ~~ ~ lt3 CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST \\,2003 PAGE 170F26 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE - MAIN MOTION THAT THE SAME GOES FORWARD - WITH THE CHANGE WITH THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT ATTACHED THAT HAD BEEN WORKED OUT PREVIOUSL Y," AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT) COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDE.D) DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush cal/ed a Break at 9:02 p.m. The Meeting reconvened at 9:10 p.m, REGULAR 25. B. Community Development Department Recommends The City Commission Hear A Request By Richard Gudenkauf For A Variance From Section 20-486, (Please See Ordinance Number 2000-17) Of The City Code Of Ordinances, To Allow An Existing Non-Conforming Sign To Remain Within The State Road 434 Redevelopment Overlay Zoning District. Mr, Baker introduced this Agenda Item, As photographs were shown to the City Commission, Commissioner Blake asked if the photographs were digital photographs, As the photographs were digital, Commissioner Blake suggested that such photographs should be shown through the network and that Staff becomes "Hi-tech," Commissioner McLeod suggested that perhaps we should have done "A survey of the existing signs" and inquired as to what we are doing to get rid of certain signs, (If"'''''' /1 :. ~1 fJ .,'" '1 "" ,~.,...J G~ '...... _,I;; t -.;3 &~'<:$J ~;~ t;;i?'!J.'0;C;r.J ~ ~~'.tr.> !/4i~.' ' 4!~ .,), . -'" . ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 180F26 Mr, Richard Gudenkauf. 155 1Yest State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of when the sign was originally pennitted and factors related to this particular situation, Mr, Steven Pearlman, 400 Eastbridge Drive, Oviedo, Florida: as a minority owner of the property, Mr. Pearlman reviewed the six (6) Variance criteria. Members of the City Commission suggested that a site plan of the property would have been helpful. Further discussion. Tape 3/Side A Discussion. "MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS VARIANCE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY, . "I MOVE THAT 'VE APPROVE THE VARIANCE AS PRESENTED TO US AT- 155 WEST [STATE ROAD] 434." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT THE MAIN MOTION ADDRESSES ONLY THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN WITH THE COPY ISSUE BEING TAKEN UP SEPARATELY." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS EXPLAINED THAT "MY POINT WAS THAT THERI1: IS NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT THE SIGN, THEREFORE I WOULD SUPPORT A VARIANCE FOR THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN." ~ ~'U ~~ ~~ t~=~ ~rc.~ ~~ ~ r'...'CZ .~ ~~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 190F26 VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT) COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY MOTION CARRIED, VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED) COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY MOTION CARRIED. Discussion ensued on the copy area of the sign, "I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE - EXISTING SIGN ORDINANCE, REGARDING COpy AREA BE APPLIED TO THIS SO THEY COME INTO CONFORMANCE 'VITH THE ALLOWED MAXIMUM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THIRTY-TWO (32) SQUARE FEET." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED, REGULAR 26. C. Community Development Department Presents A Request By JDC Calhoun To Amend The Lighting Plan For The JDC Calhoun Town Center Site. (This Agenda Item Will Be Scheduled For The August 25, 2003 Agenda). ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~;~ ~ ~ ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 20 OF 26 .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE. FOLLOWING TWO (2) REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS "'ERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:. .:. REGULAR REGULAR 28. E. Office Of The City Clerk Respectfully Requests That Commissioner David W. McLeod Make An Appointment Regarding A Vacancy On The Planning And Zoning BoardlLocal Planning Agency Relative To A Term Of Office Which Expired In July 2003. MOTION TO APPOINT NED VOSKA TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR l\lILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED, REGULAR 27. D. Community Development Department Requesting Commission Consider And Approve The Final Engineering/Site Plan And Development Agreement Amendment (Building Elevation/Architectural Rendering) For An Automotive Repair Shop On A 1.36-Acre Parcel Along The South Side Of State Road 434, Just East Of The Entrance To Tuskawilla Trails. Sign age 'Viii Be Addressed Separately, At Another Time. Mr, Baker introduced this Agenda Item and clarified that "We have to amend Exhibit 'B' - the building profile, the architectural rendering," Furthermore, Mr, Baker stated, "The proposed building elevation and architectural rendering and roof line are contingent upon amending Exhibit 'B' of the Development Agreement. We are bringing signage back - there is a little bit of an inconsistency here, so where you see the sign on the front of that rendering, that would not apply tonight. You are just looking at the rendering and the roof line. Again, the ninety (90) degree parking in front is only temporary and must be changed when the adjacent property to the west develops." ce,~~ i:,-...~a Ii:':~ Ir;:jn~;~ .b'''' ... t""'""'''d ~.'@ ~1il.L'".~ ~~ Ir~. l~ ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 21 OF 26 Mayor Bush stated, "We actually did receive a letter - where he says, he strongly opposes the flat roof." Discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "This is one of those issues that we need to be very aware of as we go further and further into the Town Center and maybe Staff needs to tell people, when they first come to us - they need to be very serious - when they come up with items that are not controversial but that need to be looked at a little bit more carefully than most because of the nature of the business - that they come in with a serious proposal, and not change them three (3) or four (4) times in a matter of two (2) years," Commissioner McLeod stated for the record that "I am the owner of the property next to the - east of that particular site," Commissioner McLeod added, "I have every intention that this property to the east is going to be part of the Town Center and the property to the east is going to be also commercial, and therefore I don't understand the need of a brick wall between commercial properties." Commissioner McLeod stated, "1 am asking this Commission, if the applicant doesn't have a problem, to get rid of this block wall - I don't think it was ever the intent of this City Commission to put block walls between each property owner within the Town Center." Mr. Baker said, ''It would not violate your Code to take away the two (2) side walls, " Furthennore, Commissioner McLeod suggested that "Instead of having retention ponds on every parcel - let's talk about a joint retention pond on that area, and it may be put on the [State Road] 434 side," Commissioner McLeod added, "I have yet to be approached by Staff as to what my intention is over there, or what could be done. I think it is a good time that that starts happening," Deputy Mayor Miller spoke for the record about the Applicant's request. With further discussion, Mr. Lockcuff stated, "I just wanted to get some direction on Commissioner McLeod's comments, asking Staff to masterplan that area, I didn't hear any other comments - the stOTIm,vater would be valuable, but it is a significant project, it is not something that Staff would undertake, but I could bring back a proposal, if that is the wish of the Commission, The other issue 1 think is transportation - I think we somehow need to figure out how this traffic will circulate," Mr, Lockcuff added, "It would be good to masterplan how the traffic would circulate," Commissioner McLeod suggested that Staff should "Pull the people together," ~ ~ r:.:",.u~ ~~ ~rr:'~a1J r<'.~ 'i\<lll1?.$Y t::'.:'~:'",;:@ " '~ t,.:l:1t:'. ,lh_. n.,. ..-c::=(l ~".W::~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11,2003 PAGE 22 OF 26 Tape 3/Side B Mr, Joseph Miranda, J 417 Lambert Street, Deltona, Florida: stated that "If we don't have to put up the wall, I would wish to keep it off." "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO APPROVE THE AGENDA THIS EVENING AND THE SITE PLANS WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE WALLS ON THE EAST SIDE AND 'VEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THE WALL THAT IS REQUIRED - IS DONE BY THE CODE FOR THE SIX FOOT (6') 'VALL BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION, MR. BAKER ASKED, "ARE YOU AGREEING \VITH THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING AS WELL?" COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "YES - WTH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER..." MR. BAKER ADDED, "...THE SIGNAGE?..." COMMISSIONER McLEOD AGREED AND SAID, "...THE SIGNAGE." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY MOTION CARRIED, REGULAR 29. F. Office Of The City Clerk Requests That The City Commission Remove From The Table And Then Approve An Appointment To Replace Mr, Roy Prince Who Prior To His Recent Resignation Has Served As The City Of Winter Springs' Alternate To The South Seminole And North Orange County \Vastewater Transmission Authority. Mayor Bush asked, "Could I have a Motion to remove from the 'Table?''' "SO MOVED," MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND, Mayor Bush stated, "Bring it back at the next Meeting." ~ :;-~ t1.~ ., l'i'='!.j"'"df1 ".'I>~ I~l~ ,~~ .If'~:;:~ ,.i".'<l~ t::t~~ ~"".I:"~ i~ {~ '~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 11, 2003 PAGE 23 OF 26 REGULAR 30. G. Office Of The City Manager Requesting Commission Consideration Of City Labor Attorney's Request For Increase In Fees, Discussion. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND ALLO\V RON McLEMORE - TO COME BACK AND ADVISE US WHAT - HIS READING IS ON THIS." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'G.'" MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS, DISCUSSION, .commissioner Blake stated "Point of Order " and spoke of the suggested Motion, FURTHER DISCUSSION, "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM 'G' AND ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK AND INFORM US AT THE NEXT MEETING WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED, "MOTION TO ADJOURN," MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. ce= ~ ~~ rr;:;;~~ r;<,,"~~~ .~t~ ~ iE.-.~ ~ ~;J CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 24 OF 26 REPORTS REPORTS 31. A. City Attorney - Anthony A, Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese stated, "With respect to the Paw Park, I sent a Lease to the L.D, Plante group, We received a call from their Attorney saying the Plante's were no longer interested in leasing the property, the temporary Paw Park - they were concerned about the liability exposure," Attorney Garganese further said that he sent a letter on July 22nd, 2003 referencing Florida Statutes 375.2514 - "Which says that any property owner that leases property to the govemment for park purposes, does not have a duty of care to the public coming on to the property, so they are reconsidering their position," Secondly, Attorney Garganese said that regarding "JDC [James Doran Company] - we had a meeting a week or ten (10) days ago to discuss the petition rule and those discussions are on-going. We did talk about possible alternatives." Attorney Garganese added, "We are expecting a final white paper from Victor Dover, regarding the rule and its purpose, and whether there are any alternatives," Thirdly, Attomey Garganese stated that "On the Wincey property, we forwarded a contract - a Sale and Purchase Contract to the Wincey's as directed by the Commission and we are glad to report that today we did receive a signed copy of that Contract - a Sale and Purchase Contract in the amount of $900,000.00 as directed by the Commission," REPORTS 32. B. City Manager - Ronald '\T. McLemore No Report:. REPORTS 33. C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces No Report. REPORTS 34. D. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis Commissioner McGinnis spoke of a City promotional video and suggested that "Consideration be given to updating that video," Mayor Bush stated, "So you are asking the Manager to look into that?" Commissioner McGinnis responded, "Yes," ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ (b =':D CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST II, 2003 PAGE 25 OF 26 Next, Commissioner McGinnis asked about the availability of a City street map, REPORTS 35. E. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod Commissioner McLeod spoke about a document from the James Doran Company announcing a Conference on Urban Development, "In Virginia, on September 11th and Ith - that may be something of interest to some of the Commissioners and also to Mr, McLemore. Personally, I would suggest that Mr. McLemore might attend that." Mayor Bush said, "Kip [Lockcuff] will make sure Mr. McLemore sees that." Commissioner McLeod added, "1 thought that it was of interest - and that may help us as we go forward." REPORTS 36. F. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of attending a St. Johns River Water Management District Meeting and said that "St. Johns [River Water Management District] - has a consensus from most of the cities in Seminole County to start looking at a cooperative water type - of arrangement which will go on with all of the counties around us," REPORTS 37. G. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake Commissioner Blake stated, "1 wanted to publicly commend our Clerk Andrea [Lorenzo- Luaces] and her Staff on putting together the annual event" - the Advisory Board and Committee Appreciation Dinner. REPORTS 38. H. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr. No Report. REPORTS 39. I. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush spoke of a letter from Metroplan Orlando and said that Mr. Lockcuff recommended that it be given to Eloise [Sahlstrom] so that she can represent the City of Winter Springs, ~ ~ r,;w~"d ~ ~ ~ ~.c .:9 CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST I I, 2003 PAGE 26 OF 26 Next, Mayor Bush mentioned that a St. Johns Landing resident noted his concerns with Tuskawilla Road, and suggested that "We have Pre-Qualification criteria for contractors," Mayor Bush added, "Kip [Lockcuff] is aware of it - there might be a threshold of which we would want to pre-qualify contractors, when it gets into the millions; and that we not deal with people who can't produce credible references, So, I am going to make that recommendation that we turn that over to the Manager and let him and Kip [Lockcuff] see if that is something that should be brought back to the Commission for approval." Additionally, Mayor Bush stated, "On the issue that I brought up at a previous Meeting concerning the garbage collection money and how it is being used - I talked with Louise [Frangoul, Finance Department Director] today and the Manager is making a comprehensive report on that for the Commission," Mayor Bush added, "He at some point then will bring it back before the Commission for their information," ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at II :02 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY CLERK ~",,~1\' APPRO V ED~. :~~.. ~\.~+\..'~ \Q\~~' ~ ~. . ~ '\~'\ ~l, v:,>'S ~ 'A ~'. ~~. , .. JOHN F. BUSH MAYOR NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the ,2003 Regular City Commission Meeting. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~